Originally Posted by
Baron Von Esslingen
Using that analogy, you swim to shore, punch out the guy who threw you in and bring all the rest who got thrown overboard to shore. Then, you court martial the captain, strip him of his pension and throw him in brig for endangering the ship of state. You don't tread water waiting for boat to come around to pick you up and you dispense with the squids who said they would be there to pluck you out of danger but were in the galley wolfing down your rations while you were almost drowning. That is, if we were to use that analogy.
The point is, disagreeing with being thrown in is not going to do a damned thing to keep me from drowning if I don't swim.
And I don't agree with the hammer everyone even remotely in the area theory.
It wasn't the FBI who ignored him. It was your Boy George. And I doubt, if
Osama gets caught, that it will be the FBI that does it. It ain't their job and they don't have many agents in Afghanistan from all accounts. Boy George only brings up the Boogieman Osama when he is on one of those fear-mongering missions to push someone back in line here at home. Sorry, I'm not buying it.
How is Bush ignoring OBL? Because he won't invade Pakistan to find him? Isn't invading countries what you're already pissed at him for?
Regime change wasn't in the forefront of the war talk. It was all about how Saddam had these weapons and could attack us and THAT'S what drove this country to war. Then, the goals changed. And changed again. And changed again. And changed again. And changed again.
Odd, the goals haven't changed that I am aware of. WMDs was one of the reasons given at the beginning and is still a legitimate reason, IMO. Freeing the Iraqis from Saddam's tyranny was most certainly another reason given, and regime change is the ONLY way to accomplish that.
They are just waiting until they isolate as much of the Sunni population as they can until they do their ethnic cleansing. We are complicit in helping them do that because we have not insisted on the governmental reforms and actions to protect the Sunnis before we help them. The Iraqis know that and keep letting us bear the brunt of the load.
And of course you don't believe the Saudis will crank up their support for the Sunnis?
Fucking A. We finally agree.
I doubt it. I'm for giving the government what they asked for. Gradual replacement. Unless I am mistaken, your idea of "leaving" is everyone yesterday.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke