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    Default Fluoride in the water: An added benefit, not a harmful one

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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Really? I could have had better than 132 if I'd skipped taking care of my teeth?

    I must be special. Who knew?

    And I'm not dead from the covid vaccine, or any of the others I've had over the past 60 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Really? I could have had better than 132 if I'd skipped taking care of my teeth?

    I must be special. Who knew?

    And I'm not dead from the covid vaccine, or any of the others I've had over the past 60 years.
    Apparently if you were exposed to too much flouride instead of a proper amount. This study has been out before and was the study which led to a judge's ruling last August?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Apparently if you were exposed to too much flouride instead of a proper amount. This study has been out before and was the study which led to a judge's ruling last August?.
    Surgeon General wants to put a cancer warning on alcohol now. What with all the things I've got coursing through my veins, I should be either dead or glow in the dark
    Last edited by Gunny; 01-07-2025 at 07:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Surgeon General wants to put a cancer warning on alcohol now. What with all the things I've got coursing through my veins, I should be either dead or glow in the dark
    I think this link references the study above.

    High risk of bias

    The related analysis published Monday looked at data from 74 human studies, 45 of which were conducted in China and 12 in India. Of the 74, 52 were rated as having a high risk of bias, meaning they had designs, study methods, or statistical approaches that could skew the results.
    https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/...ailed-reviews/

    Not all studies are created equal.

    That last line is for you Rev.

    https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2025-01-06/what-a-new-study-does-and-doesnt-say-about-fluoride-and-its-link-to-iq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Really? I could have had better than 132 if I'd skipped taking care of my teeth?

    I must be special. Who knew?

    And I'm not dead from the covid vaccine, or any of the others I've had over the past 60 years.
    so how many booster have you gotten so far gunny?
    CDC recommends more.
    you're not dead yet.

    I recommend you skip it.
    but i've drunk as much fluoride as you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    so how many booster have you gotten so far gunny?
    CDC recommends more.
    you're not dead yet.

    I recommend you skip it.
    but i've drunk as much fluoride as you have.
    I have not had a booster. The virus has run its course best I can tell. I've never had covid, even when everyone else in the house had it twice. Point being, there's sound reasoning based on fact and current situation behind my decisions, both to get the vaccine, and to not bother with boosters.

    Adding fluoride to public drinking water is a beneficial service. Same as with the covid vaccine, a couple of people having adverse reactions while the vast majority benefit from it is NOT a reason to deprive the latter.
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    Adding fluoride is a waste and dangerous

    Artificial Water Fluoridation by Country



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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Adding fluoride is a waste and dangerous
    Now you're not even posting "studies."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Now you're not even posting "studies."
    How many do you want to see... rebut... ignore... deny... ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    How many do you want to see... rebut... ignore... deny... ?
    Good studies are good studies. Those that aren't get rebutted and ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Good studies are good studies. Those that aren't get rebutted and ignored.
    I'll let you sift through them, so you can find the "good" studies.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?ter...e+water&page=1

    https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/fluori...rinking-water/

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...67629624000791
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I'll let you sift through them, so you can find the "good" studies.
    I'm not going to do your job for you. It'll be good practice for you to work on discernment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Adding fluoride is a waste and dangerous

    Artificial Water Fluoridation by Country



    Despite the fact it is a beneficial, public service especially to the poor? What is dangerous are conspiracy theorists willing to endanger the lives and health of everyone based on junk beliefs.
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