What are the risks and benefits of each vaccine?

[revelarts]

Sounds like a lot of people that hear/see only what they want.

We can agree that what this so-called expert stated is irresponsible and stupid? That requires being neither pro-nor-anti-vaccine, nor anywhere between. Just some common sense.

Yes, we do agree that what the "expert" said was crazy. "10,000 doses".
But one point here is that no one called him on it, and he's still considered a reliable source.
And .. to keep it simply.... the official studies still have not been done.

[revelarts]

October 29, 2024
COVID
Idaho Health Board First in U.S. to Defy CDC and FDA by Removing COVID Vaccines From Clinics
Idaho’s Southwest District Health will no longer offer COVID-19 vaccines after its board voted 4-3 last week to pull the shots from the 30 locations where it provides healthcare services

Idaho’s Southwest District Health will no longer offer COVID-19 vaccines after its board voted 4-3 last week to pull the shots from the 30 locations where it provides healthcare services.

“It’s the first health agency in America to do that,” Laura Demaray, a Southwest Idaho resident and nurse who attended the Oct. 22 vote, told The Defender.

Miste Karlfeldt, executive director of Health Freedom Idaho, agreed that the board’s vote is historic. “It’s thrilling,” she told The Defender.

The board’s vote came after it received about 300 public comments urging the district, which encompasses six counties, to stop promoting the shots.

Just before the board voted, members heard presentations from cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough, pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole, pediatrician Dr. Renata Moon and obstetrician and gynecologist Dr. James Thorp on safety concerns related to the COVID-19 vaccines.

Dr. John Tribble, the board’s only physician, invited them to speak.

“Dr. Tribble was a very brave board member who is very aware of the harms of the COVID injection,” said Demaray. “He asked me to help gather the presenters.”

Demaray, who said she knows many people injured by the COVID-19 vaccines, and others reached out to experts who could present data related to COVID-19 vaccine harms to the board. “It was total teamwork.”

Mary Holland, Children’s Health Defense CEO, applauded the board’s action:

“After hearing from 300 constituents, listening to well-informed physicians and assessing the public record, the Southwest Idaho Health District Board made an informed decision not to stock its own clinics with COVID shots.”

Demaray and Holland pointed out that the board didn’t take away anyone’s freedom to get a COVID-19 vaccine. “If residents want, they can obtain the shots from other pharmacies and doctors’ offices,” Holland said.

Demaray said the board’s decision showed “there’s some distrust in this shot.” She added:

“If a health district is giving a shot in their own clinics, then it means they believe in the shot and they don’t think somebody will get hurt. It means they support it tacitly.”

Holland said, “The Health District Board was conveying its values to the public — ‘these products are unsafe and we do not promote them’ — and the board was within its authority to do this.”

A precedent for other health agencies?

Tribble told The Defender some of the backstory leading up to the historic vote. “The people of this district were demanding answers,” he said. “Many came forward with heartbreaking stories of vaccine injury.”

After listening to its residents, the board members felt it was important to allow “the free and open discussion and evaluation of the evidence for and against the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine.”

In addition to hearing presentations from McCullough, Moon, Cole and Thorp, the board also heard from district staff physician Dr. Perry Jansen who recommended keeping the vaccine on the district’s clinic shelves.

“In the end,” Tribble said, “the evidence clearly showed a lack of safety and efficacy as it compares to the risk from COVID-19 and their [the board members’] decision reflected that.”

The board members who voted to remove the shot “exhibited courage” because they did so “based on the evidence, in direct opposition to the federal health agencies’ recommendations.” Tribble said:

“I believe our actions here stand as an example and precedent for other health agencies to take back control of their health and freedoms from a corrupted federal system. I hope this will inspire other health agencies to openly discuss this issue and evaluate the evidence for themselves.”....

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...cines-clinics/

[Gunny]

October 29, 2024
COVID
Idaho Health Board First in U.S. to Defy CDC and FDA by Removing COVID Vaccines From Clinics
Idaho’s Southwest District Health will no longer offer COVID-19 vaccines after its board voted 4-3 last week to pull the shots from the 30 locations where it provides healthcare services

Idaho’s Southwest District Health will no longer offer COVID-19 vaccines after its board voted 4-3 last week to pull the shots from the 30 locations where it provides healthcare services.

“It’s the first health agency in America to do that,” Laura Demaray, a Southwest Idaho resident and nurse who attended the Oct. 22 vote, told The Defender.

Miste Karlfeldt, executive director of Health Freedom Idaho, agreed that the board’s vote is historic. “It’s thrilling,” she told The Defender.

The board’s vote came after it received about 300 public comments urging the district, which encompasses six counties, to stop promoting the shots.

Just before the board voted, members heard presentations from cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough, pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole, pediatrician Dr. Renata Moon and obstetrician and gynecologist Dr. James Thorp on safety concerns related to the COVID-19 vaccines.

Dr. John Tribble, the board’s only physician, invited them to speak.

“Dr. Tribble was a very brave board member who is very aware of the harms of the COVID injection,” said Demaray. “He asked me to help gather the presenters.”

Demaray, who said she knows many people injured by the COVID-19 vaccines, and others reached out to experts who could present data related to COVID-19 vaccine harms to the board. “It was total teamwork.”

Mary Holland, Children’s Health Defense CEO, applauded the board’s action:

“After hearing from 300 constituents, listening to well-informed physicians and assessing the public record, the Southwest Idaho Health District Board made an informed decision not to stock its own clinics with COVID shots.”

Demaray and Holland pointed out that the board didn’t take away anyone’s freedom to get a COVID-19 vaccine. “If residents want, they can obtain the shots from other pharmacies and doctors’ offices,” Holland said.

Demaray said the board’s decision showed “there’s some distrust in this shot.” She added:

“If a health district is giving a shot in their own clinics, then it means they believe in the shot and they don’t think somebody will get hurt. It means they support it tacitly.”

Holland said, “The Health District Board was conveying its values to the public — ‘these products are unsafe and we do not promote them’ — and the board was within its authority to do this.”

A precedent for other health agencies?

Tribble told The Defender some of the backstory leading up to the historic vote. “The people of this district were demanding answers,” he said. “Many came forward with heartbreaking stories of vaccine injury.”

After listening to its residents, the board members felt it was important to allow “the free and open discussion and evaluation of the evidence for and against the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccine.”

In addition to hearing presentations from McCullough, Moon, Cole and Thorp, the board also heard from district staff physician Dr. Perry Jansen who recommended keeping the vaccine on the district’s clinic shelves.

“In the end,” Tribble said, “the evidence clearly showed a lack of safety and efficacy as it compares to the risk from COVID-19 and their [the board members’] decision reflected that.”

The board members who voted to remove the shot “exhibited courage” because they did so “based on the evidence, in direct opposition to the federal health agencies’ recommendations.” Tribble said:

“I believe our actions here stand as an example and precedent for other health agencies to take back control of their health and freedoms from a corrupted federal system. I hope this will inspire other health agencies to openly discuss this issue and evaluate the evidence for themselves.”....

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...cines-clinics/

I don't see a positive here. They're still legal. Those that choose to get vaccinated should be allowed as with any other vaccine.

[revelarts]

I don't see a positive here. They're still legal. Those that choose to get vaccinated should be allowed as with any other vaccine.

They can get them, just not from county run clinics.

[SassyLady]

They can get them, just not from county run clinics.

Just theorizing ...

If RFK takes over the HHS I believe the big pharma will lose their immunity. And, anyone still giving the vax will be accessories.

[Gunny]

They can get them, just not from county run clinics.

Meaning only people with medical coverage or cash can get them?

[revelarts]

Meaning only people with medical coverage or cash can get them?

Probably.
Obama care or Medicare or would likely cover it for those who still sadly think they are in danger from the new versions of the virus that leave 99% of people alive. 99.999% if you're younger than 40. But gives the side effects to children & adults of heart attacks, heart damage, auto-immune problems, nerve damage, cancers, miscarriages etc, etc, etc...

[fj1200]

You're fighting the last war. People want a drug for everything.

[revelarts]

You're fighting the last war. People want a drug for everything.

People want Freedom to choose what drugs they put in their body. Full disclosure of cost to benefit, and personal freedom from gov't controls & coercion in general.
That's a never ending battle. I'm here for it.
I hope you are too.



BTW did you know that the covid shots are now known as the MOST dangerous set of "vaccines" ever unleashed on the public?

[fj1200]

They don't care about cost (does insurance cover it?) vs. benefit (is there a commercial for it?). You better win some elections if you don't want coercion.

[revelarts]

They don't care about cost (does insurance cover it?) vs. benefit (is there a commercial for it?). You better win some elections if you don't want coercion.

more to cost than money.

& So you're not here for it.

[fj1200]

I'm just here to say that society doesn't care. 50% will raise their ire when government starts mandating but they want the drugs to cure their ills because it's the easy way.

[revelarts]

I'm just here to say that society doesn't care. 50% will raise their ire when government starts mandating but they want the drugs to cure their ills because it's the easy way.

Still worth the struggle for those few of us who do not want the SO-Called "easy way".
The easy way to get cancer heart attack etc etc IMO.
And the opinion of many experts.

& If the gov't, the MSM & SM hadn't & wouldn't censor the facts of that POV, I'm sure less than 50% would be so eager to use them.

See how fast the numbers have dropped from the 1st to 3rd doses?
And the drop in vaccine trust overall.
You maybe over estimating the gullibility of the public once they are aware of the new info.
but maybe not.
People are still running after Ozympic drugs even though it's use, cost and side effects are terrible.

[fj1200]

As soon as that's proven and wolf hasn't been cried too much...

[Gunny]

Probably.
Obama care or Medicare or would likely cover it for those who still sadly think they are in danger from the new versions of the virus that leave 99% of people alive. 99.999% if you're younger than 40. But gives the side effects to children & adults of heart attacks, heart damage, auto-immune problems, nerve damage, cancers, miscarriages etc, etc, etc...

People want Freedom to choose what drugs they put in their body. Full disclosure of cost to benefit, and personal freedom from gov't controls & coercion in general.
That's a never ending battle. I'm here for it.
I hope you are too.



BTW did you know that the covid shots are now known as the MOST dangerous set of "vaccines" ever unleashed on the public?

We were not discussing, again, your anti-vax position. People either have the right to choose or they do not. Government is not supposed to discriminate where completely legal choices are concerned. You want freedom of choice so long as it is YOUR choice.