Ten Years After

[Perianne]

Yesterday was ten years after the horrific Duke lacrosse case in North Caroline. To sum it up, three Duke lacrosse players were falsely accused of raping a stripper who was "performing" at a frat party. Duke President Richard Brodhead, as did many of the faculty, publicly sided with the stripper and cancelled the promising lacrosse season.

In the end, here is how they all ended up:

Crystal Magnum, the lying stripper who accused three men of raping her, is in a North Carolina prison, convicted of murdering her boyfriend.

Mike Nifong, the Durham District Attorney was eventually disbarred from practicing law due to his improper handling of the Duke lacrosse case. He was sued by lacrosse players for $180 million dollars and filed bankruptcy. In July 2014 there was a call for all the cases Nifong had prosecuted to be reviewed on the basis of his having been shown to ignore due process in some cases including the murder trial against Darryl Howard.

The North Carolina State Bar filed 32 ethics charges against him for “conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation.” He was found guilty on 27 charges and was disbarred in June of 2007

Reade Seligmann, one of the accused, left Duke and played lacrosse for Brown University. He got his law degree from Emory and after serving as a law clerk in the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey, is now an associate at Connell Foley LLP in Westfield, NJ.

Collin Finnerty, one of the accused, left Duke and played lacrosse for Loyola college. He is now an equity sales trader for Deutsche Bank in New York City.

David Evans, one of the accused, had already graduated from Duke when the charges were brought. He later earned an MBA from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. After landing a plum job with Morgan Stanley in its investment banking analyst program. He remained there for two years before becoming a senior associate in the consumer team at Apax Partners in New York, where he works today.

Duke University privately settled with the accused students. It has been reported that each of the three accused students received a $20 million settlement, though an attorney for Seligmann says it was nowhere near that much money.



Crystal Magnum



Mike Nifong



From left to right, David Evans, Collin Finnerty, Reade Seligmann

[Olivia]

I often think of that case and the Twana Brawley case? This country is very racist, blacks hate white's with a venom. It's going to backfire though. Black fatigue is setting in rapidly.



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[Perianne]

I often think of that case and the Twana Brawley case? This country is very racist, blacks hate white's with a venom. It's going to backfire though. Black fatigue is setting in rapidly.

In the Duke lacrosse case, the families of the boys were well-to-do. What if the families could not have afforded to pay for the high-priced attorneys? Those boys would have been in prison today instead of leading respectable lives.

As for the woman who accused them, she got hers in the end. As did Nifong. Karma is a bad thing to tempt.

[Olivia]

In the Duke lacrosse case, the families of the boys were well-to-do. What if the families could not have afforded to pay for the high-priced attorneys? Those boys would have been in prison today instead of leading respectable lives.

As for the woman who accused them, she got hers in the end. As did Nifong. Karma is a bad thing to tempt.

Damn right it is and karma is going to pay the left a visit this election.

[Kathianne]

This was the first 'big case' I remember where 'guilty until proven 'not proven' was carried out. No due process, their names released, the school slamming them.

"Women never lie about rape." Not so.

More of the war on men/boys.

[jimnyc]

This was the first 'big case' I remember where 'guilty until proven 'not proven' was carried out. No due process, their names released, the school slamming them.

"Women never lie about rape." Not so.

More of the war on men/boys.

We have a lot of guilty before trials anymore, and that sucks. The regular media, and then social media - we have folks being convicted by society much too fast anymore. And then sometimes you see riots, for example, before a trial even has a chance to begin. Facts don't matter to many anymore, nor do juries. Too often we see "vigilantes", as in entire areas being the judges instead of waiting for the actual facts and letting our justice system take its course.

[fj1200]

I often think of that case and the Twana Brawley case? This country is very racist, blacks hate white's with a venom. It's going to backfire though. Black fatigue is setting in rapidly.

That's a ridiculous statement.

[jimnyc]

That's a ridiculous statement.

Perhaps to state it in a manner that makes it sound like all blacks hate whites with venom. I don't believe that either. But there are a shitload that do hate in that way, and yep there are whites that do the same. Obviously we hear about white racism and hatred almost on a daily basis. I don't hear the same about the black racism and hatred. There are obviously racists from both sides, but it's been kinda taboo to speak such about black folks, as pretty much anything you say, and you will get labeled a racist in return. Discuss crime, and many will call you a racist. And save it, I'm not talking about reasons and such, just any talk in general about black crime and you're guilty. Speak about black racism and you're wrong, or racist yourself.

The fact is, there are racists from all walks of life, just as there is hatred. And no subject or race should be so taboo to where someone is condemned for speaking about it.

So there ARE black racists that hate whites with a venom, so it's really not that ridiculous, other than to perhaps imply that ALL of them do.

[fj1200]

So there ARE black racists that hate whites with a venom, so it's really not that ridiculous, other than to perhaps imply that ALL of them do.

It's still a ridiculous statement. It presumes all racism is centered in the black community which is clearly not true.

[jimnyc]

It's still a ridiculous statement. It presumes all racism is centered in the black community which is clearly not true.

I don't think Olivia addressed whites? Perhaps she feels some whites are like that too, I don't know, can't speak for her. If she meant ALL, I disagree, if she meant that there are a lot of black folks out there that feel that way, then I agree with her 100%

[Black Diamond]

It's still a ridiculous statement. It presumes all racism is centered in the black community which is clearly not true.

Are you referring to the part you bolded? Or the whole sentence or the whole post?

[fj1200]

I don't think Olivia addressed whites? Perhaps she feels some whites are like that too, I don't know, can't speak for her. If she meant ALL, I disagree, if she meant that there are a lot of black folks out there that feel that way, then I agree with her 100%

So you want to agree with what you think she meant? OK. I'll stick with what she posted until I hear otherwise.

Are you referring to the part you bolded? Or the whole sentence or the whole post?

The bolded part was ridiculous, the remainder set the premise.

[Kathianne]

Perhaps to state it in a manner that makes it sound like all blacks hate whites with venom. I don't believe that either. But there are a shitload that do hate in that way, and yep there are whites that do the same. Obviously we hear about white racism and hatred almost on a daily basis. I don't hear the same about the black racism and hatred. There are obviously racists from both sides, but it's been kinda taboo to speak such about black folks, as pretty much anything you say, and you will get labeled a racist in return. Discuss crime, and many will call you a racist. And save it, I'm not talking about reasons and such, just any talk in general about black crime and you're guilty. Speak about black racism and you're wrong, or racist yourself.

The fact is, there are racists from all walks of life, just as there is hatred. And no subject or race should be so taboo to where someone is condemned for speaking about it.

So there ARE black racists that hate whites with a venom, so it's really not that ridiculous, other than to perhaps imply that ALL of them do.

It's still a ridiculous statement. It presumes all racism is centered in the black community which is clearly not true.

You're both right.

There are racists of all races. Some because of wrongs actually done to them, that they've generalized onto all member of that race-perhaps with an 'exception or two' that they feel are exceptions. Some because they've been taught to hate a group or groups.

[jimnyc]

So you want to agree with what you think she meant? OK. I'll stick with what she posted until I hear otherwise.

That's not what I stated. I made my statements clear from the beginning, and then said perhaps as to her statement. I don't know specifically what she meant, but I'm sure she can update more when she sees this.

Let me ask you, and never mind how she made her comment - do you think there are blacks out there that hate whites with a venom?

[jimnyc]

You're both right.

There are racists of all races. Some because of wrongs actually done to them, that they've generalized onto all member of that race-perhaps with an 'exception or two' that they feel are exceptions. Some because they've been taught to hate a group or groups.

Of course it's from all races, I just believe that some are a little more taboo than others to discuss freely. And many are taught, from both sides, and many just learn it, from both sides over time. I agree that there are blacks that hate whites with some serious venom, that's obvious. I just don't think it's all of them, not even remotely close to that.