To "Pro Death" supporters...

[-Cp]

As long as the questions are being asked I was wondering if someone could help with these questions.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. 1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly forbids this: How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin o a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds o tread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev. 24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

See this:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost...4&postcount=42

[April15]

what would jesus say about you mocking the word of the lord.........

I would say nothing. There is no god to to have a flesh concieved "son" to die for anything. Grow up!

[manu1959]

I would say nothing. There is no god to to have a flesh concieved "son" to die for anything. Grow up!

so in your world jesus did not exist?

freudian philosphy made up the id......i assume you believe in the human ego

jesus called his the lord.....

[5stringJeff]

Which is a problem IMO. Isn't that exactly what the extreme Islamic folks are after? When/if Islam becomes dominate in America, you will not be forced to 'believe' in Islam, just forced to 'act' like you do.

When we pass laws against murder, are we not saying to religions that believe in human sacrifice that they cannot practice their religious rites? But you wouldn't sanction murder, would you?

[Mr. P]

When we pass laws against murder, are we not saying to religions that believe in human sacrifice that they cannot practice their religious rites? But you wouldn't sanction murder, would you?

No, we are saying they can't impose their belief of human sacrifice on us. No, I would not sanction murder for religious reasons, nor would I sanction ANY religions doctrine making laws for ALL of us.

[PostmodernProphet]

No, we are saying they can't impose their belief of human sacrifice on us

no, it's more than that....we would not permit a human sacrifice even if they came forward with a volunteer.....

[April15]

so in your world jesus did not exist?

freudian philosphy made up the id......i assume you believe in the human ego

jesus called his the lord.....

In a book they write about a guy name of jesus. Is the book fiction or not? I say it is fiction based on a slippery history.
As to ego, that is what some call insecurity. I do not believe in ego, although many people show signs of insecurity. Then again I may not have the same definition of ego as you do.

[April15]

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[jimnyc]

April15 - I have edited your comment out. Please read the rules, reputation comments should not be restated on the board, they are to be treated as private.

Thanks

[5stringJeff]

No, we are saying they can't impose their belief of human sacrifice on us. No, I would not sanction murder for religious reasons, nor would I sanction ANY religions doctrine making laws for ALL of us.

Being against abortion is not strictly a religious doctrine. It can be justified on strictly secular grounds.

[Sir Evil]

I don't smoke. I play sports and I have mild asthma.
Besides, chai tea is much better. Gets you fucked up 10 times more and lasts a lot longer.

Obama08's canabis chai tea recipe:
-1 cup of whole milk/cream
-a gram of bud
-chai tea powder

Directions:
Chop bud up.
Bring whole/milk cream mixture to a boil. Pour in chopped up bud and simmer for 10-20 minutes. Let cool and strain. Add chai tea powder.

No wonder you are slightly retarded but I think you may of made a new pal in jimnyc.

[Cheyenne]

As long as the questions are being asked I was wondering if someone could help with these questions.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev. 1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly forbids this: How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11: 6-8 that touching the skin o a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds o tread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev. 24: 10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Man, I have to commend you on your research. And you make some good points. I am curious as to why you do this? What are you trying to prove?
And do you know why these texts exist?

[Mr. P]

Being against abortion is not strictly a religious doctrine. It can be justified on strictly secular grounds.

True, and that applies to all things we deal with, which is why religious doctrine does not need to be injected to force behavior. I love that Constitution. Don't you?

[DragonStryk72]

He (and you) have obviously missed it - no, we aren't under the OT law:

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John [the Baptist]: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached.

Romans 6:14
Ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 7:4, 6
Ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ .... We are delivered from the law, that being dead.

Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.

Galatians 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law.

Galatians 3:24-25
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Galatians 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Ephesians 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances.

Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances ... nailing it to his cross.

Okay, i'm not going over the points of whether or not Christ exists, that is a matter of faith, or lack of same, and you are entitled to either, April15.

You've obviously read the material, CP, good job there. These points are the exact ones that I read back in my 4 years of Theology. The Hebrews of the time had become too bogged down in the technicals of the religion, and had stopped experiencing the faith. I believe this is one of the key points of why Christ was given to us, to retract the aspects of the faith that had constrained us so, and to deliver a new message of hope to this world. I only wish more Christians could see the message of Christ and his apostles in the same light, as transformation away from the Old Testament, to a higher understanding of God in our lives.

[Psychoblues]

Ironic, isn't it?