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    Default Ukraine is being hit with a surge of attacks using North Korean missiles. Western com

    Nothing like kicking your own ass. Russia rips off everyone. China's new fighter look an awful lot like the F-35. But we shouldn't have any secrets kept from the general public

    Ukraine is being hit with a surge of attacks using North Korean missiles. Western components help make it possible | CNN
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    I always wondered how they pulled of the copycats. They getting like black market blueprints, and then just doing shitty jobs for the most part?
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I always wondered how they pulled of the copycats. They getting like black market blueprints, and then just doing shitty jobs for the most part?
    Same way Ukraine is doing it. They sift the battlefield for captured/partially-destroyed weapons systems and reverse-engineer them. Corporate spies steal technology. Americans will sell each other out as quickly if not more so than anyone else. Our security for classified information has as many holes as Swiss cheese.
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    interesting "debate" about Ukraine
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    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Sorry i don't see the point of this. What are you trying to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Sorry i don't see the point of this. What are you trying to say
    That Russia's being victimized by a Nazi-Jew Ukrainian illegal war of aggression
    Last edited by Gunny; 11-24-2024 at 06:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Sorry i don't see the point of this. What are you trying to say
    Just FYI
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    Lindsey Graham is becoming quite the honest politician.
    To bad he's all about the money.
    But At least he's not pretending the war is about spreading democracy, freedom, or evil Putin taking over the world.

    Gleeful Graham: Ukraine War all 'about money'

    The South Carolina senator says Trump can get a deal to “enrich ourselves” with rare earth minerals

    No, you heard it right. Last week in a Fox News appearance, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said outright that the war in Ukraine is “about money.”

    Namely, Graham told Fox News host Sean Hannity that the U.S. stands to financially gain from Ukraine’s vast agricultural sector and “two to seven trillion dollars’ worth” of rare earth minerals alike in a prospective wartime deal with the war-torn, albeit resource-wealthy, nation.

    This war is about money. People don’t talk much about it. But you know, the richest country in all of Europe for rare earth minerals is Ukraine. Two to seven trillion dollars’ worth of minerals that are rare earth minerals, very relevant to the 21st century,” Graham declared. “Ukraine’s ready to do a deal with us, not the Russians. So it’s in our interest to make sure that Russia doesn’t take over the place.”

    “[Ukraine] is the bread basket of…the developing world,” Graham mused. “Fifty percent of all the food going to Africa comes from Ukraine.”

    Graham also emphasized that the incoming Trump administration is uniquely positioned to cash out on such resources. “Donald Trump is going to do a deal to get our money back, to enrich ourselves with rare earth minerals. A good deal for Ukraine and us,” Graham said. “And he’s going to bring peace.”

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/li...raham-ukraine/

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g7rT-PnGaVg
    Last edited by revelarts; 11-26-2024 at 10:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Lindsey Graham is becoming quite the honest politician.
    To bad he's all about the money.
    But At least he's not pretending the war is about spreading democracy, freedom, or evil Putin taking over the world.

    Gleeful Graham: Ukraine War all 'about money'

    The South Carolina senator says Trump can get a deal to “enrich ourselves” with rare earth minerals

    No, you heard it right. Last week in a Fox News appearance, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said outright that the war in Ukraine is “about money.”

    Namely, Graham told Fox News host Sean Hannity that the U.S. stands to financially gain from Ukraine’s vast agricultural sector and “two to seven trillion dollars’ worth” of rare earth minerals alike in a prospective wartime deal with the war-torn, albeit resource-wealthy, nation.

    This war is about money. People don’t talk much about it. But you know, the richest country in all of Europe for rare earth minerals is Ukraine. Two to seven trillion dollars’ worth of minerals that are rare earth minerals, very relevant to the 21st century,” Graham declared. “Ukraine’s ready to do a deal with us, not the Russians. So it’s in our interest to make sure that Russia doesn’t take over the place.”

    “[Ukraine] is the bread basket of…the developing world,” Graham mused. “Fifty percent of all the food going to Africa comes from Ukraine.”

    Graham also emphasized that the incoming Trump administration is uniquely positioned to cash out on such resources. “Donald Trump is going to do a deal to get our money back, to enrich ourselves with rare earth minerals. A good deal for Ukraine and us,” Graham said. “And he’s going to bring peace.”

    https://responsiblestatecraft.org/li...raham-ukraine/

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g7rT-PnGaVg
    If a business deal with a partial return on our investment is what it takes to get Trump to support Ukraine, I have no issue with it. Haven't since it was first brought up. We basically financed WWII and then forgave everyone's debt. Not good business.

    Now you just have to figure out what all those Ukrainian lives are worth in barter. Better than letting Russia all but erase them from the face of the Earth. Again
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