You're better than this.Originally Posted by revelarts
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You're better than this.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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With help, we all are.
Somedays we don't accept the help that's available.
The real issues here that I at least lost focus on is, how & when the folks affected are going to get relief.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
Super Minion
I am actually having a pm discussion on fb with my son on this very topic. He's quite liberal, though not close to his wife or friends. He's struggling with his choices right now. He's appalled at what is NOT being done by government. In fact he was the one that started the private discussion, sending me info on Dolly Parton's and Walmart video from yesterday. So far Dolly and her foundation have given $2M; Walmart Corp $10M and matching customer donations. Link following lists parking lot locations by state/counties in affected areas-bathrooms; showers; laundry facilities; food; clothing; wifi charging
The following keeps being updated for locations and relief supplies available:
https://corporate.walmart.com/purpos...rricane-helene
Of course Elon has been at forefront of trying to get communications to the areas-his engineers being blocked by FEMA:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news...acex-starlinks
Like I said, I've no way of how he'll end up voting, but I think for many his age, those that 'think' beyond 'feeling' are becoming disillusioned very quickly by the suffering of their fellow citizens. For my son, he's become shockingly aware of the help coming from private persons, businesses, churches/charities. The outright failure, mismanagement of government is awakening.
It's hard not to say, 'I told you so,' but not helpful.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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Conspiracy theories? Or damage control? I'm not there.
I have seen a couple of articles this afternoon with various public officials, R and D, asking that the BS being spewed on social media stop. It's hurting the real effort that is being put forth by people that have to and people that don't but are. In the lead on the right is Trump and Mark Robinson making alleged false claims. In the lead on the left is the Fed gov't making excuses.
Remember the "Bush hurricane machine"? MTG has revived the hurricane machine part
Stuck in the middle are all those folks without power, water, some without homes anymore.
How is it again we are supposed to know the truth when we hear it?
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Just Me
US officials struggle to quash Hurricane Helene conspiracy theories
Therein lies the problem: the "leaders" in the current US government have no credibility with me. Seems the only time they're willing to tell us anything its smokescreen for their f- ups.
US officials struggle to quash Hurricane Helene conspiracy theories (msn.com)
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Super Minion
I believe the people asking for help. I believe Musk responding to one of his engineers calling to report FEMA closing airspace to helicopters and private drones, though government wasn't there yet as of yesterday. A week after disaster started.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Just Me
Fair enough. I would take some of that with a grain of salt. It's a shame they have to politicize even the weather
We can't trust government nor media to tell us the truth and it's created a free for all. Extreme political partisanship and an upcoming election trump people's lives. Politicians are more interesting in trying to use propaganda from tragedy to springboard themselves into a win than they are helping actual victims.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Super Minion
If fema had gotten in within a couple days, understood. They didn't. Private folks did. Rescuing people from roofs, bringing axes to do so. Using drones to rescue/recover. Then fema enters and starts confiscating materials and closing airspace. They deserve the criticism.Fair enough. I would take some of that with a grain of salt. It's a shame they have to politicize even the weather
We can't trust government nor media to tell us the truth and it's created a free for all. Extreme political partisanship and an upcoming election trump people's lives. Politicians are more interesting in trying to use propaganda from tragedy to springboard themselves into a win than they are helping actual victims.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Just Me
FEMA always deserves criticism. Moreso under this admin. Incompetent government seems to be becoming the norm.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Super Minion
Really. I heard someone saying the government has lost the mandate of heaven
Pretty sure that was chinese, but it fits. The people no longer think the government is able. In any way.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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