Coca-Cola insider warns Watters of 'shameful' practices from big food, big pharma

[Gunny]

I don't keep up with "big pharma" but I DO keep up with nutrition and this is pretty spot on in that regard. Not hard to connect the dots from one leading to the other.

I don't know nor necessarily believe they are "in cahoots", but promoting bad health then medication to cure it would be rather convenient for both.

Eating strictly healthy (which I just get sorta close to) is tedious and time consuming in prep, and pretty boring in taste. The alleged "healthy" being its only selling point. It's definitely more expensive than eating crap.

[revelarts]

But Corporations are good. They would never do that because capitalism is great. Waters hàs turn communist.
Let the market decide.
People love coke.

This is just conspiracy theory. Food & drug companies paying for researchers & research that favor them?!
Nonsense. They are scientists.
Paying off medical orgs of diabetes & children?
Paying çivilrights groups and media orgs?
Somebody( besides this guy) would have tàlked!

I'm shocked Fox Would allow these anti Capitalist rumors & crazy talk to be allow the light of day!!

Next they'll be saying that the reason went to war in Iraq & eleswwhere was for big oil and the military industrial complex!!??!!!

[Black Diamond]

But Corporations are good. They would never do that because capitalism is great. Waters hàs turn communist.
Let the market decide.
People love coke.

This is just conspiracy theory. Food & drug companies paying for researchers & research that favor them?!
Nonsense. They are scientists.
Paying off medical orgs of diabetes & children?
Paying çivilrights groups and media orgs?
Somebody( besides this guy) would have tàlked!

I'm shocked Fox Would allow these anti Capitalist rumors & crazy talk to be allow the light of day!!

Next they'll be saying that the reason went to war in Iraq & eleswwhere was for big oil and the military industrial complex!!??!!!

Do most Republicans really believe in unbridled capitalism?

[Black Diamond]

Many regulatory agencies end up being headed by former people who were ceos in the industry they are supposed to regulate. And many times they get captured.

[Gunny]

But Corporations are good. They would never do that because capitalism is great. Waters hÃ*s turn communist.
Let the market decide.
People love coke.

This is just conspiracy theory. Food & drug companies paying for researchers & research that favor them?!
Nonsense. They are scientists.
Paying off medical orgs of diabetes & children?
Paying çivilrights groups and media orgs?
Somebody( besides this guy) would have tÃ*lked!

I'm shocked Fox Would allow these anti Capitalist rumors & crazy talk to be allow the light of day!!

Next they'll be saying that the reason went to war in Iraq & eleswwhere was for big oil and the military industrial complex!!??!!!

There is a difference between theory and fact, each being exactly defined. When government and corporations are each in business for themselves and can mutually benefit from one another, there is no conspiracy. Just fact. It is however a marriage of convenience, just as the one-time enemy of the government, the MSM, is now its bedfellow. Or the "pro-union" Democrats who for some reason still have a single union voter when the Dems are the ones that turned our industrial heartland in the Upper Midwest into a ghost town.

All too easy to do with a people that refuse to think for themselves. All too easy to do for a lazy, one-way people that want all the rewards of risk, but none of the risk associated with it. One cannot win and get ahead without the opposing risk of losing. The latter is inherent to the former. It's simple math, literally. And unrealistic.

Not a lot of options. Freedom of choice, or slavery to a government that tells you what to think. Seems to me most on the left and more than half the right want government to tell them what to think and come powder their asses when they have a rash. Even when common sense is screaming "NO!" at you.

In regard to the OP/something to ponder: If that container in your hand is full of some (name your poison) "stuff", yet has ZERO calories, just what is it exactly you are putting into your body? A conglomeration of chemicals that somehow form substance and taste. Yum

Capitalism is a system. It's as good or bad as the unscrupulous people using it. Same as government. Our government doesn't even resemble what's in the Constitution. Corporations are supposed to turn profits. They have a responsibility to shareholders. I won't argue that in the country of excess they tend to be excessive. The government, on the other hand, is not supposed to be any of that.

I believe in choice. I do not see where the American people as a whole anymore have earned and/or deserve such freedom when they have been so willing to give it away to a self-interested, self-serving government and current events support every word of that.

I don't care who eats junk food and can slam down a Coke, Doritos and Hershey's chocolate as fast as the next guy (pretty much my limit on junk food right there ). It's not about what it is. It's about the freedom to educate myself on what I am putting into the machine's fuel intake without government/corporate subterfuge. Yes, the corporations and government are self-serving and greedy and willing to sell you a pig in a poke if you're standing their jingling coin in their eyes.

It is IMO incumbent on people to understand that and step outside their little government-approved boxes and do their own research at their lazy ass's time and expense.

Or you can just read what's listed on the bag never knowing what half the shit is and stuff your face to your little heart's content

[AHZ]

There is a difference between theory and fact, each being exactly defined. When government and corporations are each in business for themselves and can mutually benefit from one another, there is no conspiracy.

Wrong. that is exactly conspiracy. and fascism too.

Just fact. It is however a marriage of convenience, just as the one-time enemy of the government, the MSM, is now its bedfellow. Or the "pro-union" Democrats who for some reason still have a single union voter when the Dems are the ones that turned our industrial heartland in the Upper Midwest into a ghost town.

All too easy to do with a people that refuse to think for themselves. All too easy to do for a lazy, one-way people that want all the rewards of risk, but none of the risk associated with it. One cannot win and get ahead without the opposing risk of losing. The latter is inherent to the former. It's simple math, literally. And unrealistic.

Not a lot of options. Freedom of choice, or slavery to a government that tells you what to think. Seems to me most on the left and more than half the right want government to tell them what to think and come powder their asses when they have a rash. Even when common sense is screaming "NO!" at you.

In regard to the OP/something to ponder: If that container in your hand is full of some (name your poison) "stuff", yet has ZERO calories, just what is it exactly you are putting into your body? A conglomeration of chemicals that somehow form substance and taste. Yum

Capitalism is a system. It's as good or bad as the unscrupulous people using it. Same as government. Our government doesn't even resemble what's in the Constitution. Corporations are supposed to turn profits. They have a responsibility to shareholders. I won't argue that in the country of excess they tend to be excessive. The government, on the other hand, is not supposed to be any of that.

I believe in choice. I do not see where the American people as a whole anymore have earned and/or deserve such freedom when they have been so willing to give it away to a self-interested, self-serving government and current events support every word of that.

I don't care who eats junk food and can slam down a Coke, Doritos and Hershey's chocolate as fast as the next guy (pretty much my limit on junk food right there ). It's not about what it is. It's about the freedom to educate myself on what I am putting into the machine's fuel intake without government/corporate subterfuge. Yes, the corporations and government are self-serving and greedy and willing to sell you a pig in a poke if you're standing their jingling coin in their eyes.

It is IMO incumbent on people to understand that and step outside their little government-approved boxes and do their own research at their lazy ass's time and expense.

Or you can just read what's listed on the bag never knowing what half the shit is and stuff your face to your little heart's content

you are unable to see fascism, probably because you are for it.

Fascism should be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power. -- Benito Mussolini

[AHZ]

Many regulatory agencies end up being headed by former people who were ceos in the industry they are supposed to regulate. And many times they get captured.

yes. sadly we have a situation of complete state capture and de facto fascism.

[AHZ]

Do most Republicans really believe in unbridled capitalism?

not the trumpers

but the libertarian globalist fascists claim to. but it's really a bunch of sloganeering to justify looking the other way on obvious fascism/state capture.

[Gunny]

Wrong. that is exactly conspiracy. and fascism too.




you are unable to see fascism, probably because you are for it.

Fascism should be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power. -- Benito Mussolini

Dictionary.com is free online. I invite you to make use of it.

[Gunny]

Local story. If you are a fan of Coke made with cane sugar in the 16 oz bottle, make sure you check the label.

The Government of Mexico is the only entity officially licensed to make the Coke. It is made for the sole purpose of export to the US. Apparently there is too much sugar in it to meet Mexican law. No red flag there

As reported, some enterprising folk have been making counterfeit "Mexican Coke" by diluting the cane sugar part of the recipe with corn syrup. Not sure why criminals bother with altering the labeling on the bottle, but they are supposedly honest on their labels. It also mentioned some have a green cap.

My good deed for the day

[hjmick]

Local story. If you are a fan of Coke made with cane sugar in the 16 oz bottle, make sure you check the label.

The Government of Mexico is the only entity officially licensed to make the Coke. It is made for the sole purpose of export to the US. Apparently there is too much sugar in it to meet Mexican law. No red flag there

As reported, some enterprising folk have been making counterfeit "Mexican Coke" by diluting the cane sugar part of the recipe with corn syrup. Not sure why criminals bother with altering the labeling on the bottle, but they are supposedly honest on their labels. It also mentioned some have a green cap.

My good deed for the day

The only Coca Cola I will drink is MexiCoke. Buy it at Costco. I drink roughly one a week, two cases per year. Other than that, it's mostly water, then the occasional glass of tea/lemonade or cranberry/watermelon juice. Cranberry/pineapple is good too. But only the 100% juice, never the "juice drink."

Every once in a while I'll have a beer, but that's not as fun as it used to be. Nowadays it makes me sleepy and when I wake up, that beer buzz is gone...

[Gunny]

The only Coca Cola I will drink is MexiCoke. Buy it at Costco. I drink roughly one a week, two cases per year. Other than that, it's mostly water, then the occasional glass of tea/lemonade or cranberry/watermelon juice. Cranberry/pineapple is good too. But only the 100% juice, never the "juice drink."

Every once in a while I'll have a beer, but that's not as fun as it used to be. Nowadays it makes me sleepy and when I wake up, that beer buzz is gone...

I like the Mexican Coke. My nod to waxing nostalgic . Stick them in the freezer for a bit. Ice cold, "real" Coke from back in the day out of a glass bottle. Get mine at HEB. HEB immediately came out and assured us there was no supply/distribution problem between it and Mexico City. Not sure about the ones Home Depot or WalMart sell. All the Mexican mom-n-pop shops carry them.

I can't handle more than one or two. Too much cane sugar doesn't get along with my gut. I've phased away from most everything but iced tea I make myself. More prep PIA, but I HATE water. Force myself to drink that. Been drinking pomegranate juice but there's no love there either

What gets me the most about this story is that nothing is sacred to crooks. Not even a Coke. Putting together an operation for producing, bottling and distributing counterfeit Coke seems a bit much. Got a ready-made market (Coca Cola fans) for as long as it lasts. Note this was a one-off local story. The MSM must be too busy camping outside the courthouse in Manhattan

[revelarts]

Calley Means: “90% of medical costs are from our weaponized food system … When I say weaponized, I mean that literally.

Our processed food industry was created by the cigarette industry.

As smoking plummeted, cigarette companies … strategically bought up food companies. And by 1990, the two largest food companies in the world were Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds, two cigarette companies.

Cigarette companies were the highest payers of scientists, one of the biggest employers of scientists to make cigarettes addictive.

They moved these world-leading addiction specialists to the food department by the thousands. And those scientists weaponized our ultra-processed food.

They then moved their lobbyists over, they used the same playbook. Their lobbyists co-opted the USDA and created the food pyramid.

The food pyramid was a document created by the cigarette industry through complete corporate capture.

The devil’s bargain comes in in that this ultra-processed food consumption has been one of the most profitable dynamics in American history for the healthcare industry as we’ve all been decimated with chronic conditions.”

From Sen. Ron Johnson’s Roundtable on “American Nutrition and Health: A Second Opinion”

[Gunny]

Calley Means: “90% of medical costs are from our weaponized food system … When I say weaponized, I mean that literally.

Our processed food industry was created by the cigarette industry.

As smoking plummeted, cigarette companies … strategically bought up food companies. And by 1990, the two largest food companies in the world were Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds, two cigarette companies.

Cigarette companies were the highest payers of scientists, one of the biggest employers of scientists to make cigarettes addictive.

They moved these world-leading addiction specialists to the food department by the thousands. And those scientists weaponized our ultra-processed food.

They then moved their lobbyists over, they used the same playbook. Their lobbyists co-opted the USDA and created the food pyramid.

The food pyramid was a document created by the cigarette industry through complete corporate capture.

The devil’s bargain comes in in that this ultra-processed food consumption has been one of the most profitable dynamics in American history for the healthcare industry as we’ve all been decimated with chronic conditions.”

From Sen. Ron Johnson’s Roundtable on “American Nutrition and Health: A Second Opinion”

I just saw this morning in the news the Yankees are looking for a left fielder for the playoffs

[revelarts]

Full Round table, Senator Ron Johnson
opening speech by RFK jr.


...for those who are interested.
or who don't already know everything.




https://rumble.com/v5g4eal-senator-r...ert-panel.html

participants include Jordan Peterson, Jillian Michaels, and Calley Means( Calley Means is the person interviewed in the fox news clip from the 1st post)

"Sen. Johnson and a panel of experts provide a foundational and historical understanding of the changes that have occurred over the last century within public sanitation, agriculture, food processing, and healthcare industries which impact the current state of national health."