Trump And RFK Jr. Possible 'Deal' In The Works?

[Gunny]

I'm not for more govt control over medicine.
While believers in govt will do everything it tells them to, and will never be satisfied with anyone who's answer doesn't mirror their unquestioning "yes sir" to the govt's "recommendations".

Govt records show that Covid vax has killed more than all the other vaxs combined.
Govt has overseen lawsuits against FDA approved drugs that have killed & addicted millions.
The Pharma companies have paid out BILLIONS in fines and seem to take it as the cost of doing business.
Big Pharma makes billions off of getting the govt to mandate vaccines to EVERYONE, and somehow the Drug company executives are often in the FDA & HHS making recommendations & approvals for vaccines... then they leave and go back to the Pharma companies after their "public service".

But hey no one should question medical "progress" that has brought us the rise in children's Autism, ADHD, SIDs, Allergies to everything, etc...
No one should check and see if anything might be connected to the medical progress in adding 30+ vaccines shot to the schedule.
That'd be like going Backwards.

Wish more people knew about honest "after action reports".
But changing methods after finding out that a method is not as good as advertised or that there are better methods of dealing with issues, is like going backwards i guess.

Dying from something easily preventable is stupid.

It isn't that people don't believe in honest after-action reports nor accountability. It's that people consider the sources as well. There is as much dishonesty from the anti-vax crowd as there is government. THAT i the whole problem of which you comprise half: The pharmaceutical companies will lie to make a sale and anti-vaxxers will lie to try and convince people they're going to die from vaccines. Those of us stuck in the middle that would actually LOVE to see the actual facts just get fed bullshit no matter which way we turn. Fact has been lost to fearmongering BS.

The second y'all (all-inclusive) politicized this shit projecting your fears as fact, all hope of every knowing the truth was lost.

[fj1200]

A populist match made in heaven.

[revelarts]

Dying from something easily preventable is stupid.

It isn't that people don't believe in honest after-action reports nor accountability. It's that people consider the sources as well. There is as much dishonesty from the anti-vax crowd as there is government. THAT i the whole problem of which you comprise half: The pharmaceutical companies will lie to make a sale and anti-vaxxers will lie to try and convince people they're going to die from vaccines. Those of us stuck in the middle that would actually LOVE to see the actual facts just get fed bullshit no matter which way we turn. Fact has been lost to fearmongering BS.

The second y'all (all-inclusive) politicized this shit projecting your fears as fact, all hope of every knowing the truth was lost.

Anti-vaxxers aren't in court trying to hide studies for 75+ years.
Anti-vaxxers aren't on the MSM & social media hiding & censoring doctors, researchers and studies.
Anti-vaxxers never forced anyone to take or not take anything.

As far as fear-mongering goes, the U.S. Canadain & UK gov'ts all paid for & used professional military grade psychological fear propaganda against us all Gunny.
But I guess anti-vaxxers scary memes/cartoons, and the weirdos talk of "tracking chips" in the vaccine was to powerful for you?
And Anti-vaxxers Facts. But yes, Facts & common sense can be scary.

The -both sides- thing you try to swing on this issue is BS.

If you were really in the middle you'd be able to view ALL the information available from all sources. there'd be real public scientific debates. You can't even see that the big pharma has not allowed you to be -in the middle- it seems to me you believe them them by default.
Is everything I post against them questioned by default?
Am i wrong here?

Big pharma/MSM/SM has not allowed a REAL middle, because the will not engage the counter experts or the data. They just dismiss, ignore, smear, censor, deplatform, demonetize, take credentials, fire and harass in other ways.
If they really had the best scientific position then they shouldn't have to use the bullying fear filled propaganda tactics.
And appeals to "that's the way it's always done" &/or "it's progress." & "trust US, we're the REAL experts".

If we were all given all the info, GOOD, BAD & UGLY, from the start we'd all be able to make your own decision rather than having to just trust anyone.
As it is, trying to get all the info is like pulling rotten teeth on a fishing boat in a hurricane.
While people are complaining that you're scaring them.

[Kathianne]

Dying from something easily preventable is stupid.

It isn't that people don't believe in honest after-action reports nor accountability. It's that people consider the sources as well. There is as much dishonesty from the anti-vax crowd as there is government. THAT i the whole problem of which you comprise half: The pharmaceutical companies will lie to make a sale and anti-vaxxers will lie to try and convince people they're going to die from vaccines. Those of us stuck in the middle that would actually LOVE to see the actual facts just get fed bullshit no matter which way we turn. Fact has been lost to fearmongering BS.

The second y'all (all-inclusive) politicized this shit projecting your fears as fact, all hope of every knowing the truth was lost.

Not to mention the 'like the left' it's not enough for them to say, 'No!' for themselves, but everyone must go their way.

[revelarts]

Not to mention the 'like the left' it's not enough for them to say, 'No!' for themselves, but everyone must go their way.

Who wants the govt to promote vaccines & for everyone to take vaccines?
The vaccines that they think are important?

[SassyLady]

I was more pissed off about the mandates than the vaccine. But because of the mandates and the censorship of not allowing any questions ... especially not showing questiios by experts not on the big pharma bandwagon, I became suspicious and did a lot of research.

I remember the documentary Plandemic and how fast it was pulled down. Lot of info that our government didn't want getting out there.

[Gunny]

Anti-vaxxers aren't in court trying to hide studies for 75+ years.
Anti-vaxxers aren't on the MSM & social media hiding & censoring doctors, researchers and studies.
Anti-vaxxers never forced anyone to take or not take anything.

As far as fear-mongering goes, the U.S. Canadain & UK gov'ts all paid for & used professional military grade psychological fear propaganda against us all Gunny.
But I guess anti-vaxxers scary memes/cartoons, and the weirdos talk of "tracking chips" in the vaccine was to powerful for you?
And Anti-vaxxers Facts. But yes, Facts & common sense can be scary.

The -both sides- thing you try to swing on this issue is BS.

If you were really in the middle you'd be able to view ALL the information available from all sources. there'd be real public scientific debates. You can't even see that the big pharma has not allowed you to be -in the middle- it seems to me you believe them them by default.
Is everything I post against them questioned by default?
Am i wrong here?

Big pharma/MSM/SM has not allowed a REAL middle, because the will not engage the counter experts or the data. They just dismiss, ignore, smear, censor, deplatform, demonetize, take credentials, fire and harass in other ways.
If they really had the best scientific position then they shouldn't have to use the bullying fear filled propaganda tactics.
And appeals to "that's the way it's always done" &/or "it's progress." & "trust US, we're the REAL experts".

If we were all given all the info, GOOD, BAD & UGLY, from the start we'd all be able to make your own decision rather than having to just trust anyone.
As it is, trying to get all the info is like pulling rotten teeth on a fishing boat in a hurricane.
While people are complaining that you're scaring them.

To quote Luke Skywalker: "Amazing. Everything you just said is wrong."

[SassyLady]

To quote Luke Skywalker: "Amazing. Everything you just said is wrong."

I agree with this quote as it applies to your assessment of Revs post. You are wrong in stating that his info is wrong.