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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    Gateway Pundit was just commenting on the story. He was actually interviewed by James Kunstler.

    https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstle...he-vaccinated/

    Here you can listen to the original interview with Geert Vanden Bossche the virologist.That way you can"t claim it's biased because Gateway talked about it. Make up your own mind whether you agree with the scientist.
    GP will publish about anything along the lines of the link; I question their editorial standards. But whether I agree with him or not depends on if he is correct or not. Further is he correct for the right reasons and not just luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    FYI, real scientist would be on CNN or maybe even Fox news Sassy, ok?

    Plus what he says doesn't align with my beliefs so even if he is barely credible in some fashion, he's obviously gone off the farm into pure quackery. That no one should ever review or even consider in the slightest.
    Only the gov't & the MSM gets to tell us that we're all about to die.
    You know, from viruses or Russia or China or Iran or terrorist or to much freedom.
    By the way, are you a doctor Sassy?
    You need to work on your attempts at satire. So... will you let me know when he is wrong or should I keep checking? You do like to post mocking memes when the government is wrong but it doesn't seem to go the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    You need to work on your attempts at satire. So... will you let me know when he is wrong or should I keep checking? You do like to post mocking memes when the government is wrong but it doesn't seem to go the other way.
    I hope & pray he's completely 100% wrong FJ.
    (but fact is death rates are already up and funeral homes were pulling mystery crap out of people's veins since the vaccines)

    But tell me, did I miss all your mocking, dismissive, skeptical, post & commentary here about the CDC, big Pharma, Faucii etc.. since they've been proven wrong about so much?

    you still seem to be on team gov't, MSM, Big Pharma.
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-10-2024 at 01:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I hope & pray he's completely 100% wrong FJ.

    But tell me, did I miss all your mocking post & commentary here about the CDC, big Pharma, Faucii etc.. since they've been proven wrong about so much?

    you still seem to be on team gov't, MSM, Big Pharma.
    I'm not speaking for fj, but I and others have more than once said that what was done was wrong, as the evidence came in.

    Now that is settled, what about those that are not vaccinating children along with illegals, leading to epidemics in some areas? Pat on the back for great retribution?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I'm not speaking for fj, but I and others have more than once said that what was done was wrong, as the evidence came in.

    Now that is settled, what about those that are not vaccinating children along with illegals, leading to epidemics in some areas? Pat on the back for great retribution?
    Who's fault is that?
    Those of us who, based on the evidence at hand, said the new vaccines were not as advertised?
    Or the people who falsely promoted them as THE solution?
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-10-2024 at 01:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I hope & pray he's completely 100% wrong FJ.
    (but fact is death rates are already up and funeral homes were pulling mystery crap out of people's veins since the vaccines)

    But tell me, did I miss all your mocking, dismissive, skeptical, post & commentary here about the CDC, big Pharma, Faucii etc.. since they've been proven wrong about so much?

    you still seem to be on team gov't, MSM, Big Pharma.
    I try not to mock. I can see overreach on either side.

    BTW, I'm on team Who-Got-It-Right and What-Are-The-Facts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Who's fault is that?
    Those of us who, based on the evidence at hand, said the new vaccines were not as advertised?
    Or the people who falsely promoted them as THE solution?
    Actually it's a logical fallacy to claim you knew before evidence came in.

    I certainly went along with ''not enough time for testing' but took my chances, knowing it certainly wasn't a sure thing. Evidence on elderly, children, came in and added to pros and cons. I certainly advised against any healthy child getting it, by time it was being offered and later "pushed heavily."


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Who's fault is that?
    Those of us who, based on the evidence at hand, said the new vaccines were not as advertised?
    Or the people who falsely promoted them as THE solution?
    Direct answer tofirst: it's their idiotic, misinformed, sheeple parents fault.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Direct answer tofirst: it's their idiotic, misinformed, sheeple parents fault.
    Nope. Not really
    It's the fault of The lying scumbag govt, the scammy murderous big pharma drug pushers and their cult like fan base. They had nearly everyone blindly going along with vaccine programs until they lied so blatantly they couldn't cover their BS anymore.
    At that point they lost the blind trust of many people. Not just in the covid vaccines but the word "vaccine".
    So parents decided to question everything and came to a conclusion you haven't reached yet.

    that many vaccines seem unnecessary, scammy & dangerous.
    The govt in many states mandated unnecessary & dangerous Gardisil for "cancer" in girls and added boys to the mandate, but after injuries now there's a class action lawsuit.
    They give HepB vaccines to newborns. Hepatitis is a sexually transmitted disease. Why should newborns get them. Parents BLINDLY trusted the gov't & doctors but that trust was broken so now they're checking for themselves. and seeing that many of the vaccines are BS. and probably are erring on the side of caution.
    Since they aren't doctors and don't have time to research everything about the 30 + shots they want their children to take. As apposed to the 3-4 shots we had when we were kids.

    vaccine is no longer a magic word.
    And when people look at the stats for the amish and also see that all the worse diseases went down before vaccines were mandated , but after better nutrition and sanitation practices became wide spread. It makes any objective truly well informed person wonder about the efficacy of the whole program.
    Last edited by revelarts; 04-10-2024 at 06:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Nope. Not really
    It's the fault of The lying scumbag govt, the scammy murderous big pharma drug pushers and their cult like fan base. They had nearly everyone blindly going along with vaccine programs until they lied so blatantly they couldn't cover their BS anymore.
    At that point they lost the blind trust of many people. Not just in the covid vaccines but the word "vaccine".
    So parents decided to question everything and came a conclusion you haven't reached yet.

    that many vaccines seem unnecessary, scammy & dangerous.
    The govt in many states mandated unnecessary & dangerous Gardisil for "cancer" in girls and added boys to the mandate, but after injuries now there's a class action lawsuit.
    They give HepB vaccines to newborns. Hepatitis is a sexually transmitted disease. Why should newborns get them. Parents BLINDLY trusted the gov't & doctors but that trust was broken so now they're checking for themselves. and seeing that many of the vaccines are BS. and probably are erring on the side of caution.
    Since they aren't doctors and don't have time to research everything about the 30 + shots they want their children to take. As apposed to the 3-4 shots we had when we were kids.

    vaccine is no longer a magic word.
    And when people look at the stats for the amish and also see that all the worse diseases went down before vaccines were mandated , but after better nutrition and sanitation practices became wide spread. It makes any objective truly well informed person wonder about the efficacy of the whole program.
    Nope, not really.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Actually it's a logical fallacy to claim you knew before evidence came in.

    I certainly went along with ''not enough time for testing' but took my chances, knowing it certainly wasn't a sure thing. Evidence on elderly, children, came in and added to pros and cons. I certainly advised against any healthy child getting it, by time it was being offered and later "pushed heavily."
    What I knew about the vaccine before it was approved was:
    • (like you) that it was not tested as other vaccines for efficacy or safety for the usual 8-10 years.

    • that they were suppressing some negative information about the "warp speed" testing that went on.
    Via whistle blowers in the test and people injured during the test that spoke out.

    • that all the previous the Mrna vaccine/drug test years prior to covid tried on animals caused severe autoimmune problems and death in animals.

    • that the inventor of the Mrna technology said that it had potential negative/unknown side effects and that it was unlikely to be very effective. (he was censored, smeared and mocked BTW)

    • that there had been no successful corona virus drug or vaccine ever in history, even after decades of effort.

    • that several other Tested & Approved drugs, treatments & preventative options were being tried successfully and were being suppressed & censored by the govt & the MSM.
    while the vaccines were being promoted as the one and only savior.

    • that when the covid vaccines rolled out some officials and big pharma executives said that it was 100% effective.
    That was like telling me that a politician had won with 115% of the votes.
    If i wasn't sure they were lying with all the other above, that one thing emotionally turn me off 1051%

    Prior to that I knew they were lying about mask by having someone point out to me the history of mask with viruses and the OSHA laws about mask BEFORE covid.
    Prior to that i knew they were lying about natural immunity, again, by having someone point out to me the history.

    I didn't have to be a doctor but just taking time to listen to some "crazy" immunologist, doctors, scientist and "sketchy" websites where very credible people were able to make a case that the vaccines were UNLIKELY to be successful and more likely to cause problems.

    Think of it this way
    If someone was building a NEW airplane.
    and you saw the list of issues above
    would you fly on it?
    would you say you had enough evidence NOT to trust it.

    I say I had evidence, you may not have liked the evidence, the sources
    or not have accepted it at the time but it was there for all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    7 days til the end it would seem. Maybe we'll get the update in two weeks.
    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I try not to mock. I can see overreach on either side.

    Try harder, or don't worry about what i'm doing.
    Eithers one works
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Try harder, or don't worry about what i'm doing.
    Eithers one works
    That's not mocking, that's following to the logical conclusion.

    And I have to worry about what you're doing, everyone else is dead.

    OK, that was a little mocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    That's not mocking, that's following to the logical conclusion.

    And I have to worry about what you're doing, everyone else is dead.

    OK, that was a little mocking.
    mocking is fine.
    Just don't question my memes & mockery dude.

    But seriously, i hope you don't die.
    & I hope you don't take anymore "vaccines".
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    But Unquestioning belief in people that have been proven wrong over and over?
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ssive-massive/

    “What I am predicting is a massive, massive tsunami of illness and death among highly vaccinated populations with compromised immune systems, Bossche said. “You will see what will happen, for example, in the next coming week is more and more cases of more serious long Covid.”
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