There's no way to tell right now. My intuition says a 'pub candidate will win. I hope it's Ron Paul.
Not me for Paul, not by a longshot:
But they support him and he knows them.
Ron Paul's Photo-Op with Stormfront
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353_Ron_Pauls_Photo-Op_with_Stormfront#comments
Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 3:53:50 pm PST
An LGF reader emailed this photograph, showing Ron Paul at the Values Voters Presidential Debate in Fort Lauderdale on September 17, 2007. Immediately to Paul’s left: Don Black, the owner of neo-Nazi hate site Stormfront. If anyone knows who the creepy guy in the hat is, please post a comment. Now I can see Ron Paul trying to appeal to evangelicals, but Black? Then again, maybe Stormfront saw an opening, which I hope did not appeal to Evangelicals at the Forum. Now if Paul just wishes to say, 'but heh, every posed with the Nazis', sure would be nice to see some evidence of that.:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/372/20071220ronpauldonblackwb1.jpg
Now comes Ron Paul acting like taking their money is to keep them from having it to spend, wow. In September he seemed cozy enough, as shown in the pic. **Edit** The hat guy is Black's son, Derek. He has his own little kiddie column at Stormfront.:
http://reason.com/blog/show/124032.html
Then Cavuto pivots to the Black story:
CAVUTO: There are reports, sir, that your campaign has received a $500 campaign donation from a white supremacist in West Palm Beach. And your campaign had indicated you have no intention to return it. What are you going to do with that?
PAUL: It is probably already spent. Why give it back to him and use it for bad purposes?
And I don't even know his name. I never heard of it. You know, when you get 57,000 donations a day, are we supposed to screen them and find out their beliefs? He sent the money for my beliefs. And if he promoting my viewpoints and my attitudes, why give it back to him if he has bad viewpoints? Kind of hard to say that after the picture, from September?
And I don't endorse anything that he endorses or what anybody endorses. They come to me to endorse freedom and the Constitution and limited government. So, I see no purpose for me to start screening everybody that sends me money. I mean, it is impossible to do it. It is a ridiculous idea that I am supposed to screen these people.
CAVUTO: All right. So, Congressman, when you find out that it's this Don Black who made the donation, and who ran a site called Stormfront, White Pride Worldwide, now that you know it, now that you're familiar after the fact, you still would not return it?
PAUL: Well, if I spent his money and I took the money that maybe you might have sent to me and donate it back to him, that does not make any sense to me. Why should I give him money to promote his cause? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Here's the Cavuto graf:
Then Cavuto pivots to the Black story:
CAVUTO: There are reports, sir, that your campaign has received a $500 campaign donation from a white supremacist in West Palm Beach. And your campaign had indicated you have no intention to return it. What are you going to do with that?
PAUL: It is probably already spent. Why give it back to him and use it for bad purposes?
And I don't even know his name. I never heard of it. You know, when you get 57,000 donations a day, are we supposed to screen them and find out their beliefs? He sent the money for my beliefs. And if he promoting my viewpoints and my attitudes, why give it back to him if he has bad viewpoints?
And I don't endorse anything that he endorses or what anybody endorses. They come to me to endorse freedom and the Constitution and limited government. So, I see no purpose for me to start screening everybody that sends me money. I mean, it is impossible to do it. It is a ridiculous idea that I am supposed to screen these people.
CAVUTO: All right. So, Congressman, when you find out that it's this Don Black who made the donation, and who ran a site called Stormfront, White Pride Worldwide, now that you know it, now that you're familiar after the fact, you still would not return it?
PAUL: Well, if I spent his money and I took the money that maybe you might have sent to me and donate it back to him, that does not make any sense to me. Why should I give him money to promote his cause? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Well it's the way it goes, first pictures then more connections:
And the VNN site is either being overwhelmed or has been shut down.
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/12/19/rpb3/
The “Commander” of the American National Socialist Workers Party (i.e., the “Nazis”) has posted the following statement over at VNN, another leading White Supremacist hate-site.
Comrades:
I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.
Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.
I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.
For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.
I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.
The Commander’s fellow Nazis are not in the least bit happy with him for posting this; here’s a screenshot (click to expand), in case they pull it down.
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3682/naziwhitescreenshothl2.jpg
Attention Paultards– we are now entering the part of the news cycle where your candidate constantly gets asked about whether or not he or his senior staffers frequently attend lunch with a bunch of racist nutjobs. With any luck, someone took pictures.
During this period, the words “Ron Paul” and “Nazi” will appear in close proximity in print, on-air and on-line many thousands of times. People who only know a little bit about Ron Paul will be discussing this in elevators on the way into work tomorrow morning.
And because I love to say I told you so, I will.
I told you so.