The intell community has broken ranks

[truthmatters]

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_reversal_on_Iran_intel_reflects__12072007.html

It seems they will no longer allow their intell to be formed by the Bush admin.






And unlike 2002, when US intelligence officials complained of administration pressure to "cherry-pick" intelligence that supported going to war, the intelligence community this time has asserted its independence.

"This is ours," a senior intelligence official said this week, telling reporters that policymakers had no input in the conclusions of the National Intelligence Estimate, as the assessment is called.

The US military also increasingly has taken its own tack since the ouster of Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary, quietly but firmly distancing itself from White House saber rattling on Iran.

The tough talk reached a peak with President George W. Bush's warning on October 17 of the threat of "World War III" if Iran acquires the knowledge to make nuclear weapons, language reminiscent of US rhetoric leading up to the Iraq invasion.

Vice President Dick Cheney followed up days later, telling a Washington think tank: "We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."

But Admiral William Fallon, the head of the US Central Command, complained in a newspaper interview that incessant press speculation about military action was harming efforts to bring Iran onto a more positive path.

"It's a fundamental reversal of civil-military relations, and intelligence and political relationships, that were obvious in 2002," said Ray Takeyh, an expert on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations.

[Dilloduck]

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_reversal_on_Iran_intel_reflects__12072007.html

It seems they will no longer allow their intell to be formed by the Bush admin.






And unlike 2002, when US intelligence officials complained of administration pressure to "cherry-pick" intelligence that supported going to war, the intelligence community this time has asserted its independence.

"This is ours," a senior intelligence official said this week, telling reporters that policymakers had no input in the conclusions of the National Intelligence Estimate, as the assessment is called.

The US military also increasingly has taken its own tack since the ouster of Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary, quietly but firmly distancing itself from White House saber rattling on Iran.

The tough talk reached a peak with President George W. Bush's warning on October 17 of the threat of "World War III" if Iran acquires the knowledge to make nuclear weapons, language reminiscent of US rhetoric leading up to the Iraq invasion.

Vice President Dick Cheney followed up days later, telling a Washington think tank: "We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon."

But Admiral William Fallon, the head of the US Central Command, complained in a newspaper interview that incessant press speculation about military action was harming efforts to bring Iran onto a more positive path.

"It's a fundamental reversal of civil-military relations, and intelligence and political relationships, that were obvious in 2002," said Ray Takeyh, an expert on the Middle East at the Council on Foreign Relations.



complained in a newspaper interview that incessant press speculation about military action was harming efforts to bring Iran onto a more positive path.


interesting

[truthmatters]

Yes it is very interesting that the press was talking about the Bush teams steps towards war with Iran.

It seems the intell people wanted the truth out so it would not take place.

[Sir Evil]

Yes it is very interesting that the press was talking about the Bush teams steps towards war with Iran.

It seems the intell people wanted the truth out so it would not take place.

:laugh2:

It's a perfect opinion piece for someone like you goofymatters. When The article quotes:


And unlike 2002, when US intelligence officials complained of administration pressure to "cherry-pick" intelligence that supported going to war, the intelligence community this time has asserted its independence.

One can see that the column is created with a bit of biased writing when one assumes that "cherry-picked" intelligence was even needed to invade Iraq. That is pure speculation by idiots like yourself. Meanwhile the idiots like yourself are still holding on to the whole intelligence blunder of WMD's when it wasn't even needed to proceed with an invasion as Iraq laid in violation of so many damn resolutions. Of course the intelligence thing is important to hang your hat on as you fuckwads have no legitimate argument to the whole resolution concept, and international law that even some at the UN turned the other cheek on.

You fuckers are now going o ride the whole intelligence issue with Iran as if inside you know there is no possible way that Iran will never posess nuclear material or make an attempt to. I sure hope if they do they manage to land a nuke right on top of your house, that would be too cool....

[Dilloduck]

:laugh2:

It's a perfect opinion piece for someone like you goofymatters. When The article quotes:

One can see that the column is created with a bit of biased writing when one assumes that "cherry-picked" intelligence was even needed to invade Iraq. That is pure speculation by idiots like yourself. Meanwhile the idiots like yourself are still holding on to the whole intelligence blunder of WMD's when it wasn't even needed to proceed with an invasion as Iraq laid in violation of so many damn resolutions. Of course the intelligence thing is important to hang your hat on as you fuckwads have no legitimate argument to the whole resolution concept, and international law that even some at the UN turned the other cheek on.

You fuckers are now going o ride the whole intelligence issue with Iran as if inside you know there is no possible way that Iran will never posess nuclear material or make an attempt to. I sure hope if they do they manage to land a nuke right on top of your house, that would be too cool....

It'll also be real cool when the intelligence community declares its' "independence" from congresssional oversight too. They can just cruise around and have a hell of a good time.:laugh2: