A personal audience with the President - Merged

[gabosaurus]

My sister and her husband have custody of a high-school girl who was born in Colombia. The girl is really talented as an artist and architectural designer. So much that, at 16, she has already won multiple awards and college scholarship stipends.
She recently submitted some structure designs that were picked up by the government of Colombia. She is going there this fall and might get a personal audience with the president.

Can you imagine being a parent and having a rep for the Bush administration call you and say "we are impressed with you kid. Can you bring him/her to Washington to meet the president?"

Unbelievable...

[glockmail]

I think it would be pretty cool it it were my kid. Even the President were some dipshit, like Clinton 1, 2 or Jiminy Carter. I guess I just have respect for the Office as well as this nation, and you apparently do not. :slap:

[hjmick]

Perhaps your sister and her husband should read this (http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia185.htm) before allowing their young ward to travel to Colombia. President Uribe is not a nice man. Why the Bush administration supports him is beyond me. But then again, I question many decisions a lot of administrations have made, Bush included.

[gabosaurus]

A lot of world leaders are not nice people. Including GW Bush.
But the president of your country is the president of your country.

[Gaffer]

I'm with hjmick on this. We are talking columia here. Home of the drug lords and MS13. Not to mention the sex slave business that thrives there and in venezuela. I would let my kid go anywhere near that cesspool.

[dan]

I think it would be pretty cool it it were my kid. Even the President were some dipshit, like Clinton 1, 2 or Jiminy Carter. I guess I just have respect for the Office as well as this nation, and you apparently do not. :slap:

That's not fair, you know if anybody on this board called Dubya a "dipshit", they'd have their heads ripped off.

[gabosaurus]

That's not fair, you know if anybody on this board called Dubya a "dipshit", they'd have their heads ripped off.

But he IS a dipshit! You gotta call it like you see it.

Not the point of this thread, though. This girl was born in Colombia. Though she no longer lives there, she wants to help her country. I am sure my sister will go with her.
MS 13 is from El Salvador, by the way. Colombia merely has drug cartels.

[glockmail]

Apparently I'm confused. Did she get an invite from the US prez or the Columbia prez? I re-read the OP and I still can't figger it out.:cool:

[Abbey Marie]

Apparently I'm confused. Did she get an invite from the US prez or the Columbia prez? I re-read the OP and I still can't figger it out.:cool:

I'll break it down for you: She's going to meet the Prez of Columbia, who is apparently a much nicer person/Prez than Bush.

[glockmail]

I'll break it down for you: She's going to meet the Prez of Columbia, who is apparently a much nicer person/Prez than Bush.
Got it, statuesque babe. But now I'm confused why she thinks that way. :laugh2:

[dan]

Not the point of this thread, though.

This is true. Sorry to derail the thread. Regardless of whether he's a good guy or not, your niece should be very proud that her work is not only being seen but appreciated by someone that high up.

[hjmick]

This is true. Sorry to derail the thread. Regardless of whether he's a good guy or not, your niece should be very proud that her work is not only being seen but appreciated by someone that high up.

You're right , dan. And in an attempt to clarify, the intent of my post was not to diminish the accomplishments of the young lady, but rather to shed some light on the Colombian president, a person about whom most Americans know very little.

[nevadamedic]

A lot of world leaders are not nice people. Including GW Bush.
But the president of your country is the president of your country.

Your off your medication again I see..............

[5stringJeff]

My sister and her husband have custody of a high-school girl who was born in Colombia. The girl is really talented as an artist and architectural designer. So much that, at 16, she has already won multiple awards and college scholarship stipends.
She recently submitted some structure designs that were picked up by the government of Colombia. She is going there this fall and might get a personal audience with the president.

Can you imagine being a parent and having a rep for the Bush administration call you and say "we are impressed with you kid. Can you bring him/her to Washington to meet the president?"

Unbelievable...

Very cool Gabby!

[Pale Rider]

Your off your medication again I see..............

Just back off. She's being cool and hasn't made any snide little personal comments to anyone here like you just did to her.

[Pale Rider]

But he IS a dipshit! You gotta call it like you see it.

Not the point of this thread, though. This girl was born in Colombia. Though she no longer lives there, she wants to help her country. I am sure my sister will go with her.
MS 13 is from El Salvador, by the way. Colombia merely has drug cartels.

I think the girl and her family would be quite safe in Columbia. One, she was born there, and two, she has something they want. She and her family would probably be treated like royalty.

[OCA]

Your off your medication again I see..............


Nevada, shut the fuck up!

[OCA]

But he IS a dipshit! You gotta call it like you see it.

Not the point of this thread, though. This girl was born in Colombia. Though she no longer lives there, she wants to help her country. I am sure my sister will go with her.
MS 13 is from El Salvador, by the way. Colombia merely has drug cartels.

MS 13 was born in the barrios of East L.A. from Salvadoran immigrants and when these guys would get pinched they were deported and just took their gangbanging ways with them back to San Salvador where it spread like wildfire.

So yes MS 13 is Salvadoran for the most part but was started here in L.A.

Columbian drug cartels are still around yes but their power is vastly diminished with the Demise of Pablo Escobar and his Medellin cartel and the demise of the Cali cartel. Most of the drug business there is now controlled by rebel groups who use the money to fund their war on the government.

[gabosaurus]

OCA, excellent observations as usual.

This girl and her mother are very aware of the sad state of affairs in Colombia. That is why they left the country in the first place. Their village was run by drug lords who took anything and everything they wanted, including people. The drug lords lived in opulent splendor. The people lived in shacks with no electricity or running water.

At the same time, I believe everyone is loyal to where they were born. From what I understand, official visitors to Colombia are flown in on private jets and escorted everywhere by armed guards.
Which is quite a heady experience when you are 16 years old.

[nevadamedic]

Nevada, shut the fuck up!

Was I talking to you? :fu:

[Yurt]

My sister and her husband have custody of a high-school girl who was born in Colombia. The girl is really talented as an artist and architectural designer. So much that, at 16, she has already won multiple awards and college scholarship stipends.
She recently submitted some structure designs that were picked up by the government of Colombia. She is going there this fall and might get a personal audience with the president.

Can you imagine being a parent and having a rep for the Bush administration call you and say "we are impressed with you kid. Can you bring him/her to Washington to meet the president?"

Unbelievable...

Don't compare columbia's "president" to the United States of America's President.

If you want to, go live in Columbia under the rule of that great president.

[Yurt]

OCA, excellent observations as usual.

This girl and her mother are very aware of the sad state of affairs in Colombia. That is why they left the country in the first place. Their village was run by drug lords who took anything and everything they wanted, including people. The drug lords lived in opulent splendor. The people lived in shacks with no electricity or running water.

At the same time, I believe everyone is loyal to where they were born. From what I understand, official visitors to Colombia are flown in on private jets and escorted everywhere by armed guards.
Which is quite a heady experience when you are 16 years old.

And yet you compare the country's "presidents."

Have some respect. You cannot compare the two.

[nevadamedic]

Don't compare columbia's "president" to the United States of America's President.

If you want to, go live in Columbia under the rule of that great president.

She's not that bright! :laugh2:

[manu1959]

you dipshits wish you were president.....got good grades at an ivy league school...had money.....dipshit....too funny

[Pale Rider]

She's not that bright! :laugh2:

This is the second time you've made a "personal" insult at her in this thread, AND she's ignored you. Why don't you knock it the fuck off?

If you got a problem with something she's said, dispute that. Otherwise, stick your little smart ass "UNPROVOKED" *personal* insults where the sun don't shine.

[nevadamedic]

This is the second time you've made a "personal" insult at her in this thread, AND she's ignored you. Why don't you knock it the fuck off?

If you got a problem with something she's said, dispute that. Otherwise, stick your little smart ass "UNPROVOKED" *personal* insults where the sun don't shine.

Wow sticking up for your girlfriend I see. :fu:

[avatar4321]

interesting opportunity. hope whatever happens she has a good life.

[Pale Rider]

Wow sticking up for your girlfriend I see. :fu:

For your information nm, there have been some negotiations on the board of recent, where certain participants have agreed to knock off the petty little immature insult bullshit, like YOU are doing. Now you've been informed.

Question is, will you keep up the childish personal insult crap, or act like an adult yourself? Balls in your court pal.

[nevadamedic]

For your information nm, there have been some negotiations on the board of recent, where certain participants have agreed to knock off the petty little immature insult bullshit, like YOU are doing. Now you've been informed.

Question is, will you keep up the childish personal insult crap, or act like an adult yourself? Balls in your court pal.

Actually I made a post to that affect earlier in that week about OCA unless I get attacked. Also you might want to look at some of her posts before you jump my ass, once again that bitch was talking her shit earlier.

[Pale Rider]

Actually I made a post to that affect earlier in that week about OCA unless I get attacked. Also you might want to look at some of her posts before you jump my ass, once again that bitch was talking her shit earlier.

Then talk with her and see if you can broker a deal to knock it off. It wouldn't hurt to try. The board is a much better place when people refrain from personal insults.

I don't mean to pick on ya man... I'm just trying to help. And if there's a way to get you into the American Legion Convention, I'll let ya know. I really think you'd enjoy being there.

[nevadamedic]

Then talk with her and see if you can broker a deal to knock it off. It wouldn't hurt to try. The board is a much better place when people refrain from personal insults.

I don't mean to pick on ya man... I'm just trying to help. And if there's a way to get you into the American Legion Convention, I'll let ya know. I really think you'd enjoy being there.

I'll talk to her tomorrow then......... Are you going to be at the protest?

[Pale Rider]

I'll talk to her tomorrow then......... Are you going to be at the protest?

I have to have my Harley at the dealership first thing in the morning to get a new front wheel and rear chrome strut cover put on it, and I'm going to wait for it, so probably not.

You'll have to represent for the both of us.

[glockmail]

This is the second time you've made a "personal" insult at her in this thread, AND she's ignored you. Why don't you knock it the fuck off?

If you got a problem with something she's said, dispute that. Otherwise, stick your little smart ass "UNPROVOKED" *personal* insults where the sun don't shine. Pale you're showing some restraint and decorum. You make me proud, Preacher! :salute:

[dan]

Pale you're showing some restraint and decorum. You make me proud, Preacher! :salute:

Agreed. Where's all this civility coming from? This isn't why I come here! Somebody throw a chair or something!

[gabosaurus]

People can debate without hostility. Not as much fun, but still possible. :lmao:

If you were born in any country, you feel loyalty. Not everyone views the President of the U.S. as a wonderful, benevolent person. Others don't care whether he is or not.

[nevadamedic]

I have to have my Harley at the dealership first thing in the morning to get a new front wheel and rear chrome strut cover put on it, and I'm going to wait for it, so probably not.

You'll have to represent for the both of us.

It's not today it's September 3rd.

[nevadamedic]

People can debate without hostility. Not as much fun, but still possible. :lmao:

If you were born in any country, you feel loyalty. Not everyone views the President of the U.S. as a wonderful, benevolent person. Others don't care whether he is or not.

Exactly! Your on a roll latley! :clap:

[glockmail]

Agreed. Where's all this civility coming from? This isn't why I come here! Somebody throw a chair or something! As your 1/2 bro, the one who's "NOT a nice guy". :slap:

[Pale Rider]

Agreed. Where's all this civility coming from? This isn't why I come here! Somebody throw a chair or something!

I've been blogging for a long time. I've been blogging with Jimmy for a long time. The flaming was fun a long time ago, but it's gotten old. Now I see blogs as an important tool. I like getting my opinion out there. I have no need to attack someone PERSONALY anymore. I will attack your IDEAS, or your OPINION, but I will not attack YOU. There's just no need for that.

[gabosaurus]

My sister has custody of a 16-year-old girl who emigrated here from Colombia. The young lady is a brilliant artist and draftsman whose skill won a contest sponsored by a group seeking young Hispanic leaders.
Her project also earned her an invitation to meet the president of Colombia in Bogota. Her and my sister went down there last weekend (by private jet, no less). They were honored at a state dinner. She also got a 30-minute private audience.
Can you imagine being a high school junior and having a head of state invite you to his office and ask your personal opinion about things? To talk with you as an equal?
Say what you want about the guy, but he know how to treat his people.

[dan]

Errrr, you posted this same thing, almost word-for-word, like four months ago.

EDIT: After checking the link below, I see that it wasn't the same thing, just "This is going to happen", followed by "this happened last weekend". So, sorry. Either way, it's a cool opportunity. Does she have any of her work online?

http://debatepolicy.com/showpost.php?p=109920&postcount=1

[hjmick]

Never mind.

[gabosaurus]

Please learn to read. The previous thread was about the invitation. This one is about what happened.
When your kids are invited to personally meet a head of state, you can post here as well. It is much more relevant than someone's kid playing football.

[hjmick]

I sit corrected and issue to you an apology.

[gabosaurus]

Thank you. I appreciate that. :)

[darin]

maybe it'd have been less confusing if you'd have bumped that thread and given an update. :)

[5stringJeff]

My sister has custody of a 16-year-old girl who emigrated here from Colombia. The young lady is a brilliant artist and draftsman whose skill won a contest sponsored by a group seeking young Hispanic leaders.
Her project also earned her an invitation to meet the president of Colombia in Bogota. Her and my sister went down there last weekend (by private jet, no less). They were honored at a state dinner. She also got a 30-minute private audience.
Can you imagine being a high school junior and having a head of state invite you to his office and ask your personal opinion about things? To talk with you as an equal?
Say what you want about the guy, but he know how to treat his people.

Pretty cool!

[dan]

Please learn to read. The previous thread was about the invitation. This one is about what happened.
When your kids are invited to personally meet a head of state, you can post here as well. It is much more relevant than someone's kid playing football.

Oh, well, how dare I go so far as to offer an opinion when we should all be bowing down before the great Gabosaurus! Please learn to blow me and don't ever say anything about NM posting the same thing over and over again.

Of course, I'm sure the meeting took all weekend and many, many important issues were debated and the world was made a better place thanks to a 16-year-old, considering it's so relevant. What papers were this earth-shattering meeting covered in?:rolleyes:

[Abbey Marie]

Gabby,
I am glad that you shared a personal story with us. I wish more members would do that, instead of just politics 100%of the time. Personal input is what makes a board more of a family, even if it is a dysfunctional one at times, lol. Congrats to the girl and your sister!

[MtnBiker]

Oh, well, how dare I go so far as to offer an opinion when we should all be bowing down before the great Gabosaurus! Please learn to blow me and don't ever say anything about NM posting the same thing over and over again.

Of course, I'm sure the meeting took all weekend and many, many important issues were debated and the world was made a better place thanks to a 16-year-old, considering it's so relevant. What papers were this earth-shattering meeting covered in?:rolleyes:

In all fairness I believe this post was directed toward hjmick, who since edited his post.

[gabosaurus]

maybe it'd have been less confusing if you'd have bumped that thread and given an update. :)

I'm a blonde. You can't expect me to do something that smart. :)
Good suggestion though.

[dan]

In all fairness I believe this post was directed toward hjmick, who since edited his post.

If this is the case, then I apologize to you again, Gabby.

[darin]

merged so now things are tidy. :)

[Abbey Marie]

merged so now things are tidy. :)

I just love it when a man tidies up! :coffee:

[glockmail]

I just love it when a man tidies up! :coffee:

Oops- there's a big dmp in the toilet- can y'all clean that up as well?
:lol:

[Abbey Marie]

Oops- there's a big dmp in the toilet- can y'all clean that up as well?
:lol:

:slap:

[jackass]

Oh, well, how dare I go so far as to offer an opinion when we should all be bowing down before the great Gabosaurus! Please learn to blow me and don't ever say anything about NM posting the same thing over and over again.

Of course, I'm sure the meeting took all weekend and many, many important issues were debated and the world was made a better place thanks to a 16-year-old, considering it's so relevant. What papers were this earth-shattering meeting covered in?:rolleyes:

She MAY or may not have been talking to you Dan..but this was one of the funniest posts I read!! :laugh2:

[Nukeman]

Gabby,
I am glad that you shared a personal story with us. I wish more members would do that, instead of just politics 100%of the time. Personal input is what makes a board more of a family, even if it is a dysfunctional one at times, lol. Congrats to the girl and your sister!
Abbey you sure that one on the head....:cheers2:

[glockmail]

:slap::lol:

[dan]

She MAY or may not have been talking to you Dan..but this was one of the funniest posts I read!! :laugh2:

Yeah, great, not only that, but now that the thread's been merged, I'm on the last page talking about how civil everybody's being, and now look at me!

I do feel bad, Gabby. I felt like your post was an unprovoked attack toward me, and again, if that's not the case (which it doesn't seem like it was), then I am sorry.

[gabosaurus]

I do feel bad, Gabby. I felt like your post was an unprovoked attack toward me, and again, if that's not the case (which it doesn't seem like it was), then I am sorry.

I am probably being blonde about this, but how could my post be construed as a personal attack on you? I wasn't directing it at one person.

Otherwise, I have no idea what kind of world issues were discussed. Perhaps this brilliant high school junior was able to give the President of Colombia tips on how to eliminate the drug cartels and deal with international terrorism.
Or perhaps they discussed recipes and cooking.

[dan]

I am probably being blonde about this, but how could my post be construed as a personal attack on you? I wasn't directing it at one person.


Basically, I didn't see any of hjmick's reply, so as far as I knew, this thread was your OP, me pointing out that you had posted something similar, then redacting that when I realized the difference between the posts, then you coming back with "Please read closer" AFTER I had apologized. My mistake.

[Kathianne]

My sister and her husband have custody of a high-school girl who was born in Colombia. The girl is really talented as an artist and architectural designer. So much that, at 16, she has already won multiple awards and college scholarship stipends.
She recently submitted some structure designs that were picked up by the government of Colombia. She is going there this fall and might get a personal audience with the president.

Can you imagine being a parent and having a rep for the Bush administration call you and say "we are impressed with you kid. Can you bring him/her to Washington to meet the president?"

Unbelievable...

Well they aren't her parents, they are her guardians. If they feel as you do, they should have told GW, "screw you!" we are not accepting this award. Then again, they could go and say, "Screw you, we know that Columbia offers much more than she could find here."

Did they?

[gabosaurus]

Well they aren't her parents, they are her guardians. If they feel as you do, they should have told GW, "screw you!" we are not accepting this award. Then again, they could go and say, "Screw you, we know that Columbia offers much more than she could find here."
Did they?

This response makes zero sense whatsoever. How the hell are you factoring Bush into this thread? It has nothing to with Bush whatsoever. It is simply a kid who is being honored by the government of her birthplace.
Unless you just want to turn everything I say into a personal attack. If that is the case, take your perverse brain dead bullshit into another section.
This is a kid who grew up with nothing and now has the chance at a college education and a good job. She is not pregnant, on drugs or in trouble with the law. Maybe your kids are and you are upset about it. Don't blame my sister for your shortcomings.

[Kathianne]

This response makes zero sense whatsoever. How the hel* are you factoring Bush into this thread? It has nothing to with Bush whatsoever. It is simply a kid who is being honored by the government of her birthplace.
Unless you just want to turn everything I say into a personal attack. If that is the case, take your perverse brain dead bullshi* into another section.
This is a kid who grew up with nothing and now has the chance at a college education and a good job. She is not pregnant, on drugs or in trouble with the law. Maybe your kids are and you are upset about it. Don't blame my sister for your shortcomings.

Actually you are right, I overreacted to what should have been good news. I guess sometimes there's a tendency to 'give back' some of your negativity, I shouldn't have, sorry.