View Full Version : Tough votes on Trump Cabinet picks could pose big risks for midterm Senate candidates
Gunny
11-16-2024, 11:00 AM
Tough votes on Trump Cabinet picks could pose big risks for midterm Senate candidates (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tough-votes-on-trump-cabinet-picks-could-pose-big-risks-for-midterm-senate-candidates/ar-AA1ucnB0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=be465bc7390d43eeb79d62e0fb6bbbf5&ei=31)
fj1200
11-16-2024, 11:12 AM
They should take their advise and consent role seriously.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 11:35 AM
Makes sense is this a mandate or not?
Gunny
11-16-2024, 11:57 AM
Makes sense is this a mandate or not?Does "mandate" mean blank check, no rules apply? It bothers me that just like in 2016-2020, the right has this "there is no tomorrow" mentality. Yes there is. We've been living it for 4 years. Come 2028, if the Republicans don't start setting themselves up now, we'll have another Dem President and I don't see any Abraham Lincolns on the Dems' horizon. They voted for Harris, one of the dumbest people to ever hold office.
Kathianne
11-16-2024, 12:01 PM
Does "mandate" mean blank check, no rules apply? It bothers me that just like in 2016-2020, the right has this "there is no tomorrow" mentality. Yes there is. We've been living it for 4 years. Come 2028, if the Republicans don't start setting themselves up now, we'll have another Dem President and I don't see any Abraham Lincolns on the Dems' horizon. They voted for Harris, one of the dumbest people to ever hold office.
Indeed. With the super crazies on the left, the 'most loyal opposition' is from the right; those who want Trump to address what's wrong and use the people's support to lead to future steps.
Something the left has always been way, way ahead on is 'one step and a time and don't give up.' Most of the 'compromises' on any issues have come from the left, leading to their furthering their choices.
My way or the highway doesn't work real well.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 12:07 PM
Does "mandate" mean blank check, no rules apply? It bothers me that just like in 2016-2020, the right has this "there is no tomorrow" mentality. Yes there is. We've been living it for 4 years. Come 2028, if the Republicans don't start setting themselves up now, we'll have another Dem President and I don't see any Abraham Lincolns on the Dems' horizon. They voted for Harris, one of the dumbest people to ever hold office.
No but it might mean people get pissed if every appointee gets rejected or held up. Especially when every single Democrat voted for that tranny for "health official"
fj1200
11-16-2024, 12:08 PM
Makes sense is this a mandate or not?
Mandate or not they have a job and mandate is not in the Constitution considering 2/3 of the Senate was not up for election. But I think POTUS gets some deference.
fj1200
11-16-2024, 12:10 PM
No but it might mean people get pissed if every appointee gets rejected or held up. Especially when every single Democrat voted for that tranny for "health official"
Hardly the case.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 12:13 PM
Hardly the case.
So you think Gaetz will be the only fight? Assuming he gets that far.
fj1200
11-16-2024, 12:15 PM
So you think Gaetz will be the only fight? Assuming he gets that far.
No. But he's made other selections that haven't gotten the collective eye roll that Gaetz got. Most will sail through.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 12:21 PM
No. But he's made other selections that haven't gotten the collective eye roll that Gaetz got. Most will sail through.
If the big names, if you will, get rejected the senate will be viewed quite negatively imo
fj1200
11-16-2024, 12:22 PM
If the big names, if you will, get rejected the senate will be viewed quite negatively imo
I disagree Gaetz being a big name.
Gunny
11-16-2024, 12:34 PM
So you think Gaetz will be the only fight? Assuming he gets that far.
Just my opinion: Gabbard and RFK,Jr for sure get a hard going over. Hegseth as well.
Gunny
11-16-2024, 12:35 PM
I disagree Gaetz being a big name.Depends on viewpoint. He's a controversial name that stands out for all the wrong reasons.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 12:50 PM
Just my opinion: Gabbard and RFK,Jr for sure get a hard going over. Hegseth as well.
Exactly. I agree. and then comes the rage and frustration
Gunny
11-16-2024, 01:14 PM
Exactly. I agree. and then comes the rage and frustrationWhat rage and frustration? From Trump? I haven't ruled out him setting up Jr and Gabbard to get them out of his hair.
Not sure on Hegseth. Last I saw last night they've dredged up an assault charge (against a woman) on him that apparently went nowhere. Due diligence would investigate that as well. The other problem is SecDef is over his head whether nor not Trump likes it. He's putting the Nation at risk putting an unqualified person in that job if confirmed.
Confirming Trump's uncontroversial choices in a timely manner throws him a bone.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 01:20 PM
What rage and frustration? From Trump? I haven't ruled out him setting up Jr and Gabbard to get them out of his hair.
Not sure on Hegseth. Last I saw last night they've dredged up an assault charge (against a woman) on him that apparently went nowhere. Due diligence would investigate that as well. The other problem is SecDef is over his head whether nor not Trump likes it. He's putting the Nation at risk putting an unqualified person in that job if confirmed.
Confirming Trump's uncontroversial choices in a timely manner throws him a bone.
From the voters. Which trump might stir up. To your point endorsements aren't free.
Gunny
11-16-2024, 05:22 PM
From the voters. Which trump might stir up. To your point endorsements aren't free.
Don't know for sure, but I wouldn't bet my money on the voters being prepared for Gaetz, Gabbard and Kennedy:laugh: THIS voter surely is not. I expected qualified individuals at least. It's more like he purposefully picked the worse candidates he could find.
That would to my comment maybe he did it to let the Senate get them out of his hair.
Black Diamond
11-16-2024, 05:43 PM
Don't know for sure, but I wouldn't bet my money on the voters being prepared for Gaetz, Gabbard and Kennedy:laugh: THIS voter surely is not. I expected qualified individuals at least. It's more like he purposefully picked the worse candidates he could find.
That would to my comment maybe he did it to let the Senate get them out of his hair.
It's not out of the question i guess. He can always give those individuals (not *necessarily* Gaetz) a lower position.
Kathianne
11-16-2024, 05:52 PM
Don't know for sure, but I wouldn't bet my money on the voters being prepared for Gaetz, Gabbard and Kennedy:laugh: THIS voter surely is not. I expected qualified individuals at least. It's more like he purposefully picked the worse candidates he could find.
That would to my comment maybe he did it to let the Senate get them out of his hair.
I pretty much will give the President 'his choices' under normal circumstances. I don't mind Gabbard for one thing, maybe she'll disappoint, but I wish her well.
I have concerns on Kennedy, but it's the government's own fault for what they did with Fauci, Covid, the schools, openness with vaccine effectiveness as they new it, etc. So, he'll come in and create more vaccine resistance in parents until childhood diseases kill enough off through loss of herd effect to make them demand mandatory requirements in schools once again. Maybe by that time they'll also know if their kids are male or female? Nah.
Gaetz is a case onto himself. As someone pointed out, he doesn't have the legal experience for an assistant AG, much less lead. He also is more than likely a criminal. Funny how those that rant and raved about pedophiles and trafficking are happy to say, 'He was innocent, no convictions.' Forget mention of how the ethics played out, unless/until it leaks, we won't know, but we do know his colleagues are not happy with him.
So an egregious choice like Gaetz, I'm for voicing and perhaps a missive to my senators. OTOH, I'll let the process go the way Trump chooses, popular and electoral vote should count.
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