Matt Gaetz as AG?

[SassyLady]

Didn't seen that one coming

[Kathianne]

Didn't seen that one coming

My feelings that Trump really learned over the past 4 years. Poof!

[Gunny]

My feelings that Trump really learned over the past 4 years. Poof!An infantile POS under allegations of drugs and under-age girls. Guess we know what THAT investigation is going:rolleyes:

He has chosen cronyism over qualification.

Ditto on that "poof". There are far more qualified people to hold the positions he's handed out. And he STILL can't count. He's pulled another House member. Which is fine with me. After seeing today's appointments I'm almost ready to cheerlead for the Dems to take the House.

[Black Diamond]

An infantile POS under allegations of drugs and under-age girls. Guess we know what THAT investigation is going:rolleyes:

He has chosen cronyism over qualification.

Ditto on that "poof". There are far more qualified people to hold the positions he's handed out. And he STILL can't count. He's pulled another House member. Which is fine with me. After seeing today's appointments I'm almost ready to cheerlead for the Dems to take the House.

I was told yesterday that Stefanik is the only one that would be an election. Gop governors would pick replacements in the other cases. Obviously not sure if that's the case today

[SassyLady]

An infantile POS under allegations of drugs and under-age girls. Guess we know what THAT investigation is going:rolleyes:

He has chosen cronyism over qualification.

Ditto on that "poof". There are far more qualified people to hold the positions he's handed out. And he STILL can't count. He's pulled another House member. Which is fine with me. After seeing today's appointments I'm almost ready to cheerlead for the Dems to take the House.

I believe the charges were dropped.

[Black Diamond]

See if he gets confirmed. He's got a lot of enemies.

[Gunny]

I believe the charges were dropped.That is correct. Doesn't mean he didn't do it. And he's both stupid and arrogant enough to. Matt Gaetz as AG is akin to Kamala Harris being President.

Might as well have chosen a Democrat:rolleyes:

[SassyLady]

That is correct. Doesn't mean he didn't do it. And he's both stupid and arrogant enough to. Matt Gaetz as AG is akin to Kamala Harris being President.

Might as well have chosen a Democrat:rolleyes:
They used lawfare on him and what better person to pursue those that went after him, Trump, the J6ers, the whistleblowers ... he is like a dog with a bone and he's going to decimate this one.

[Gunny]

They used lawfare on him and what better person to pursue those that went after him, Trump, the J6ers, the whistleblowers ... he is like a dog with a bone and he's going to decimate this one.

Sure they did. Gaetz is a walking piece of shit for and sorry excuse of a human being. Selfish, petulant child. He doesn't deserve to be in charge of jack shit.

[Gunny]

One can only hope.

Matt Gaetz faces GOP Senate opposition after Trump selection for attorney general | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-faces-gop-senate-opposition-after-trump-selection-attorney-general)

[SassyLady]

Sure they did. Gaetz is a walking piece of shit for and sorry excuse of a human being. Selfish, petulant child. He doesn't deserve to be in charge of jack shit.

If he did what they say he did why didn't they pay off his accusers out of the slush fund like they do the other politicians. They wanted him out because he doesn't back down. I don't believe the charges against him.

[Kathianne]

One can only hope.

Matt Gaetz faces GOP Senate opposition after Trump selection for attorney general | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-faces-gop-senate-opposition-after-trump-selection-attorney-general)

Reminds me of UN putting NK on human rughts.

[Black Diamond]

I just read Gaetz resigned from congress. He must think he'll get the job.

How do recess appointments work?

[Gunny]

If he did what they say he did why didn't they pay off his accusers out of the slush fund like they do the other politicians. They wanted him out because he doesn't back down. I don't believe the charges against him.He is still under House investigation.

Regardless, he's a POS. Been acting like the spoiled ass, obstructionist brat to get his way the past two years. F*ck him. Y'see it isn't about Trump, or the party, nor any other excuse you want to make it. It's about HIM. He's a POS. I assume anyone that supports him approves of his childish behavior. Trump at least has a self-serving motive. Others, not so much.

[Gunny]

I just read Gaetz resigned from congress. He must think he'll get the job.

How do recess appointments work?

He's a dumbass if he did. No Dems are going to vote for him. That leaves 3 votes to lose and more than 3 have said no way. This is the Republicans' chance to get rid of his ass if he resigned.

The President can make temporary appointments while Congress is recess. Prety sure they still have to be approved by the Senate to become permanent.

[Kathianne]

He's a dumbass if he did. No Dems are going to vote for him. That leaves 3 votes to lose and more than 3 have said no way. This is the Republicans' chance to get rid of his ass if he resigned.

The President can make temporary appointments while Congress is recess. Prety sure they still have to be approved by the Senate to become permanent.
When I read he resigned, I thought, "Maybe we'll get lucky and he will not get confirmed." Hey, perhaps Trump is a genius! Now, do the same to Taylor-Greene and the other one.

[Black Diamond]

When I read he resigned, I thought, "Maybe we'll get lucky and he will not get confirmed." Hey, perhaps Trump is a genius! Now, do the same to Taylor-Greene and the other one.

I was gonna post a thread in conspiracy theories saying trump has no intention of having Gaetz be AG.

:laugh:

[NightTrain]

I didn't see this coming. Gaetz never crossed my mind at all.

But if anyone is motivated to dismantle the DOJ lawfare machine, it's him. Burn that fucker to the ground and rebuild it with proper oversight this time.

[SassyLady]

I didn't see this coming. Gaetz never crossed my mind at all.

But if anyone is motivated to dismantle the DOJ lawfare machine, it's him. Burn that fucker to the ground and rebuild it with proper oversight this time.

Innovative disruption. He's good at that.

[Kathianne]

He tried, Trump's hands clean...

https://hotair.com/generalissimo/2024/11/14/gaetz-crashing-in-the-senate-n3796974

Might be the genius move...

[Gunny]

When I read he resigned, I thought, "Maybe we'll get lucky and he will not get confirmed." Hey, perhaps Trump is a genius! Now, do the same to Taylor-Greene and the other one.

Don't leave out Gabbard. I like her just fine. Popping up on news talk shows. She is not qualified for the position. She's a conspiracy theorist and Russia apologist. Intelligence agencies have to operate on fact, not fiction.

[Gunny]

I didn't see this coming. Gaetz never crossed my mind at all.

But if anyone is motivated to dismantle the DOJ lawfare machine, it's him. Burn that fucker to the ground and rebuild it with proper oversight this time.

While fun to say, it can't be burned down to the ground. Cleaned out I agree with. I see neither happening him Gaetz. All he has been capable of so far is self-aggrandizing and chaos. That accomplishes nothing.

Not sure what's on anyone's minds, but we all have to face the consequences of this election in 2028. What they do now matters.

[Gunny]

He tried, Trump's hands clean...

https://hotair.com/generalissimo/2024/11/14/gaetz-crashing-in-the-senate-n3796974

Might be the genius move...


My problem with this whole 4-D chess theory is that it's totally unnecessary. We had as close to party unity between the incoming administration and the House and Senate Republicans as there's been in years. There will be hard feelings now, regardless of how this nomination ends up, which didn't have to happen.



My biggest regret with this pick is that we're now committed to wasting at least three months before getting someone in the DOJ to begin the clean up that's so desperately needed. That's three months we really don't have to waste.

Yep.

[Black Diamond]

He tried, Trump's hands clean...

https://hotair.com/generalissimo/2024/11/14/gaetz-crashing-in-the-senate-n3796974

Might be the genius move...

Now that he resigned, the sex probe goes away.

[Gunny]

Now that he resigned, the sex probe goes away.The House investigation goes away. The evidence does not. Some Senators have already stated the DOJ investigation and House investigation comes with him. They would be derelict in their duty to not include it.

[Black Diamond]

The House investigation goes away. The evidence does not. Some Senators have already stated the DOJ investigation and House investigation comes with him. They would be derelict in their duty to not include it.

Assuming this goes that far.

[Gunny]

Assuming this goes that far.I'm assuming it will. I don't see Trump withdrawing names. I see him pressuring for confirmation with his usual theatrics when anyone questions him.

[Black Diamond]

I'm assuming it will. I don't see Trump withdrawing names. I see him pressuring for confirmation with his usual theatrics when anyone questions him.

That's the other possibility. We are in for a show if you're right.

[revelarts]

Don't leave out Gabbard. I like her just fine. Popping up on news talk shows. She is not qualified for the position. She's a conspiracy theorist and Russia apologist. Intelligence agencies have to operate on fact, not fiction.

As DNI she'll have access to more info than you or I will ever see.
that should clarify any supposed false conspiracies anyone might hold.
Also I believe she served on the congressional intel committee.
And BTW, as part of cleaning house in these scum filled depts it seems like a good idea sometimes to use people NOT brought up in the system, who aren't brainwashed, broken or compromised by the dept think & inertia.

As far as Russian apologist goes... when did you start working for Hillary's campaign staff as an MSNBC contributor?

[revelarts]

Gatz seems problematic on several levels


"In 2019, before Epstein was arrested, Matt Gaetz said that Epstein's sweetheart deal from Alex Acosta should NOT be reexamined, arguing that it would be "dangerous" to do so. "
https://miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article226861944.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex0IeFVWEAgsvCu?format=png&name=900x900
I'm not well informed on the recent allegations against him concerning under aged girls.
If true he should be Disqualified from the job ...at the very least.

In the more distant past in college there's even darker allegations of an auto- asphyxiation 'game' that left a man dead, where Gaetz was the last to be seen with the man alive. Homosexual sex rings/parties and the like.


Just the Epstein comment alone tells me he's someone who should not be anywhere near the DOJ at this point in time.

[Kathianne]

Now that he resigned, the sex probe goes away.

Ethics report. Unless it leaks. Never happens in DC.

[Black Diamond]

Gatz seems problematic on several levels


"In 2019, before Epstein was arrested, Matt Gaetz said that Epstein's sweetheart deal from Alex Acosta should NOT be reexamined, arguing that it would be "dangerous" to do so. "
https://miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article226861944.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex0IeFVWEAgsvCu?format=png&name=900x900
I'm not well informed on the recent allegations against him concerning under aged girls.
If true he should be Disqualified from the job ...at the very least.

In the more distant past in college there's even darker allegations of an auto- asphyxiation 'game' that left a man dead, where Gaetz was the last to be seen with the man alive. Homosexual sex rings/parties and the like.


Just the Epstein comment alone tells me he's someone who should not be anywhere near the DOJ at this point in time.

You may be right but it i think it would have been dangerous. And maybe not just for reputations.

[fj1200]

Speaking of questionable decisions.

[fj1200]

He's a dumbass if he did. No Dems are going to vote for him. That leaves 3 votes to lose and more than 3 have said no way. This is the Republicans' chance to get rid of his ass if he resigned.

The President can make temporary appointments while Congress is recess. Prety sure they still have to be approved by the Senate to become permanent.

They won't be in recess. The Senate is going to be having to "advise and consent" to about a million appointments after they're sworn in Jan 3.

[revelarts]

You may be right but it i think it would have been dangerous. And maybe not just for reputations.
Yes, dangerous for Acosta's career or maybe more.
But sure in general a prosecutors job is dangerous.

IF i understand it correctly Acosta was supposed to tell the victims about any plea or sentencing changes.
That was his job.
He didn't do it.
Gatez says it may have been "to protect" the victims. ?? That make no sense.
Acosta didn't do the job the people hired him to do. Fully prosecute criminals, get them punished & off the streets. Instead he followed the orders of the Feds and got rewarded for it. (“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”)
Doing his prosecutors job would have been dangerous for his career. but not the victims.

[Black Diamond]

Yes, dangerous for Acosta's career or maybe more.
But sure in general a prosecutors job is dangerous.

IF i understand it correctly Acosta was supposed to tell the victims about any plea or sentencing changes.
That was his job.
He didn't do it.
Gatez says it may have been "to protect" the victims. ?? That make no sense.
Acosta didn't do the job the people hired him to do. Fully prosecute criminals, get them punished & off the streets. Instead he followed the orders of the Feds and got rewarded for it. (“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”)
Doing his prosecutors job would have been dangerous for his career. but not the victims.

People could have ended up dead like epstein did.

[Gunny]

As DNI she'll have access to more info than you or I will ever see.
that should clarify any supposed false conspiracies anyone might hold.
Also I believe she served on the congressional intel committee.
And BTW, as part of cleaning house in these scum filled depts it seems like a good idea sometimes to use people NOT brought up in the system, who aren't brainwashed, broken or compromised by the dept think & inertia.

As far as Russian apologist goes... when did you start working for Hillary's campaign staff as an MSNBC contributor?

You have no idea what info I have had access to, nor what I have seen, nor what I know. To burst your bubble, YOU have no idea what she will have access to if she gets past the Senate and you never will unless she wants to put being a conspiracy theorist above her oath and duty to the Nation and possibly get fired. I've given up on the idea politicians go to jail like low level operators for disclosing/mishandling classified info.

When did you start working for Putin and the Ayatollah? You're all about freedom, so you say. But only for you. Somehow you are entitled but others are not:rolleyes:

[Kathianne]

I seriously cannot think of a more inappropriate AG pick than Gaetz. I can buy this actually just being a con to get him out of the ethics report, (which is very likely to be leaked anyways since it was completed), than a serious choice. I really don't like the idea of him in government at all, but it's likely:

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/11/14/cruz-on-gaetz-er-lets-see-n3796994


Cruz on Gaetz: Er … Let’s SeeEd Morrissey 6:00 PM | November 14, 2024



AP Photo/Mariam Zuhaib
​This is quite the non-endorsement. If anyone could relate to Matt Gaetz as a “disruptor,” it’s Ted Cruz. Just this week, Cruz burnished his MAGA credentials by publicly endorsing Rick Scott as Majority Leader to push the establishment out of the way. And yet, not only does Cruz pass on an opportunity to endorse Donald Trump’s choice for Attorney General while appearing on Newsmax this afternoon, he sounded more enthusiastic about picking Senator Mike Lee than Gaetz.
“We’ll assess the nominee, but …” sounds pretty ominous in that context, especially since Cruz is also tamping down on the idea of a recess appointment at the same time:




If Trump wanted a recess to make his appointments (which wouldn’t really work anyway, as I explained earlier in the week), the Gaetz appointment probably put the kibosh on that strategy. Democrats would have tried to block a recess even if Trump nominated candidates from the Deep State Approved List. Choosing Gaetz not only will energize Democrats in both chambers even more, it has enough Senate Republicans thinking twice about it — and not just Cruz, or the establishmentarians:


Some of President-elect Donald Trump's Senate skeptics are joining what is expected to be full Democrat opposition to former Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., as the next attorney general. ...


There are at least five Republican senators who have at times broken from Trump to come out against Gaetz's nomination and another, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Thursday he wants to review the House ethics report on Gaetz, an investigation that seemingly had been spiked when Gaetz abruptly resigned his seat once nominated Wednesday.


The count doesn’t include Cruz either. That would mean a maximum of 47 votes for a recess, which is looking like the only path for Gaetz’ appointment. And since it’s clear that the recess would be mainly for Gaetz, it’s not going to happen.


So now what? I never took this nomination that seriously anyway; Trump’s smart enough to understand a deal that cannot be made. I followed Cruz on Newsmax today (video not yet available), and suggested to host Bianca de la Garza that Trump nominated Gaetz to draw fire away from other controversial nominees. Corey Lewandowski told Newsmax earlier that the nomination was “not a bluff,” and in a sense, it’s not; it’s a screen to get others through the process.


So why did Gaetz rush to resign his House seat? Trump will put him somewhere in the administration. If he can’t get a confirmation as a Cabinet member, Trump will hire him in a non-confirm position in the West Wing. Gaetz also gets to kill off his Ethics probe before it finishes either way. Trump hasn’t lost anything with this gambit, except a small amount of time on the AG pick. And since we’re still in November, even that’s debatable — and he has some room to still get a hard-line ally in place, like Mike Lee. Although, Cruz himself might be a better fit for what Trump wants.

[Gunny]

There shouldn't even be a question as to whether or not to release the report to the Senate. His conduct has everything to do with any government positions he wishes to fill.

Ethics panel faces existential crisis over Gaetz report - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/15/ethics-panel-gaetz-report-00189863)

[Gunny]

Exclusive: Woman told House Ethics panel she witnessed Gaetz having sex with minor, lawyer says - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-woman-told-house-ethics-panel-witnessed-gaetz/story?id=115897603)

[SassyLady]

Oh the days of Kavanaugh are upon us again.

Interesting that a man who showered naked with his daughter was elected president and it was swept under the rug because he was a Democrat.

[Black Diamond]

There shouldn't even be a question as to whether or not to release the report to the Senate. His conduct has everything to do with any government positions he wishes to fill.

Ethics panel faces existential crisis over Gaetz report - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/15/ethics-panel-gaetz-report-00189863)

Won't the senate do their own investigation anyway?

[SassyLady]

Won't the senate do their own investigation anyway?

From what I'm hearing the new senate majority leader wants to get Trump's team confirmed ASAP.

[Gunny]

Won't the senate do their own investigation anyway?

Depends on what they do.

Exclusive: Woman told House Ethics panel she witnessed Gaetz having sex with minor, lawyer says - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-woman-told-house-ethics-panel-witnessed-gaetz/story?id=115897603)

Minus the partisan BS, this is a serious allegation and it's not new. What do you suppose the right would be doing if Dems retained control of the Senate and such an allegation was made against a Dem? Having a shit fit calling for an investigation is what. If the Republicans sweep this under the rug, it speaks for itself. I don't think they can afford to.

Not to mention Gaetz did himself no favors jumping the shark and resigning 2 days before the House was due to report on the investigation. The House isn't helping which looks bad as well. Any other time there would be zero problem with anyone for allegations of sex with a minor being investigated.

[fj1200]

Maybe being a lawyer for more than 2 years would be a requirement.

[hjmick]

Speaking of questionable decisions.


P Diddy wasn't available...

[Kathianne]

P Diddy wasn't available...
and Epstein is dead.

[Kathianne]

Oh the days of Kavanaugh are upon us again.

Interesting that a man who showered naked with his daughter was elected president and it was swept under the rug because he was a Democrat.
I agree, none of which makes Gaetz an acceptable choice.

[Black Diamond]

and Epstein is dead.

He could pardon Ghislaine and give it to her.

[SassyLady]

I agree, none of which makes Gaetz an acceptable choice.

Just saying all those allegations were false. Perhaps these are as well.

[Black Diamond]

Just saying all those allegations were false. Perhaps these are as well.

Why choose someone so, controversial

[SassyLady]

Why choose someone so, controversial

I would imagine because he's a disruptor and Trump wants a lot of attention on how he's cleaning up the DOJ.

[Black Diamond]

I would imagine because he's a disruptor and Trump wants a lot of attention on how he's cleaning up the DOJ.

Understandable aside from the sex accusations. This is an explosive situation.

[Black Diamond]

Understandable aside from the sex accusations. This is an explosive situation.

Unless "my" conspiracy theory is correct

[SassyLady]

14718

[fj1200]

^Spiteful. Seems about right.

[Black Diamond]

^Spiteful. Seems about right.

Or a plan B. Sounds like they are counting on needing one.

[fj1200]

Or a plan B. Sounds like they are counting on needing one.

None of this makes me feel better about my vote.

[Black Diamond]

None of this makes me feel better about my vote.


https://youtu.be/_6uzZFse6L4?si=wUU-2efGXA5ajpF3

[Black Diamond]

14718

fj1200 Who tweeted that or whatever it is?

[SassyLady]

VDH

Weaponizing the DOJ by performance-art swat home raids on opponents, and collusion lawfare waged by local, state, and federal indictments against a former president and presidential candidate were un-American.

Asymmetrical prosecutions and FBI fusion with social media to censor the news were sheer government anarchy.

There are legitimate questions about the confirmability of Matt Gaetz, or his prosecutorial experience, or some of his alleged past excesses, but his very accusers were mostly quiet about the weirdos, creeps, and revolutionaries in the Biden administration—accused of stealing women’s luggage at airports, or lying that a subordinate “racist” border patrol whipped in slave-master fashion innocent would-be immigrants, or trying to fix a felonious presidential son’s sentencing to avoid the accustomed legal consequences of his criminal behavior.

Calm perspective

[Black Diamond]

Calm perspective

I agree. It is. But this Gaetz senate hearing will be a war

[SassyLady]

I agree. It is. But this Gaetz senate hearing will be a war

Maybe that's the plan. I'm sure a lot of things will come to light ... not just about Gaetz.

[fj1200]

@fj1200 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=728) Who tweeted that or whatever it is?

No idea. I just replied to a post.

[fj1200]

https://youtu.be/_6uzZFse6L4?si=wUU-2efGXA5ajpF3

She's an idiot. That doesn't make trump a genius.

[fj1200]

I agree. It is. But this Gaetz senate hearing will be a war

But these would be stupid wars. He is utterly unqualified and trying to jam him through when anyone should know that the votes won't be there is creating animosity when the we're supposed to be on the same side is counterproductive.

[Black Diamond]

She's an idiot. That doesn't make trump a genius.

The goal was to make you feel better about your vote. :cool:

[fj1200]

The goal was to make you feel better about your vote. :cool:

I live in the future, not the past. ;)

[hjmick]

Sure they did. Gaetz is a walking piece of shit for and sorry excuse of a human being. Selfish, petulant child. He doesn't deserve to be in charge of jack shit.


Sounds as if you're describing Trump...



On the upside, should Gaetz win the appointment, we need only worry about the laws that are 17 years old and younger...