D.o.g.e.

[SassyLady]

Department Of Goverment Efficiency
Headed up by Elon and Vivek

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-lead-trumps-department-government-efficiency

[NightTrain]

Department Of Goverment Efficiency
Headed up by Elon and Vivek

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-lead-trumps-department-government-efficiency


Can't wait to see these two get to work. I can already hear the howls of outrage from the libs.

[SassyLady]

Can't wait to see these two get to work. I can already hear the howls of outrage from the libs.

And this special task force is scheduled to be over and done with by 7/4/26 for the 250th celebration of America.

[revelarts]

Department Of Goverment Efficiency
Headed up by Elon and Vivek

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-lead-trumps-department-government-efficiency


Of course i love the Idea of reducing the gov't.
But I will make one negative point here, sorry but,
This should be a COMMISSION/PROJECT or something not a NEW Department.
Not sure why you create a NEW department if your goal is to reduce the size of gov't.

[SassyLady]

Of course i love the Idea of reducing the gov't.
But I will make one negative point here, sorry but,
This should be a COMMISSION/PROJECT or something not a NEW Department.
Not sure why you create a NEW department if your goal is to reduce the size of gov't.
It will be short lived. Completion end date is 7/4/2026. They want it completed before the 250th celebration.

[NightTrain]

Of course i love the Idea of reducing the gov't.
But I will make one negative point here, sorry but,
This should be a COMMISSION/PROJECT or something not a NEW Department.
Not sure why you create a NEW department if your goal is to reduce the size of gov't.


As I understand it, like Sassy says, it's a temp agency to nuke/reform the other ones, and scheduled to disband in 2 years.

[fj1200]

Famous last words but I expect Musk to get bored far before then. Vivek I can see hanging around for the limelight.

[SassyLady]

Famous last words but I expect Musk to get bored far before then. Vivek I can see hanging around for the limelight.

He doesn't seem to be too bored with Tesla, Star Link, SpaceX ... etc.

I think he's going to enjoy the hell out of finding efficiencies.

[Gunny]

Yep. Let's cut down government by adding another agency, Makes perfect fucking sense:rolleyes:

On the bright side, he had to. Have to reward the asskissers somehow without letting them touch anything important.

[SassyLady]

Yep. Let's cut down government by adding another agency, Makes perfect fucking sense:rolleyes:

On the bright side, he had to. Have to reward the asskissers somehow without letting them touch anything important.

Not adding an agency.


It will become, potentially, “The Manhattan Project” of our time. Republican politicians have dreamed about the objectivies of “DOGE” for a very long time. To drive this kind of drastic change, the Department of Government Efficiency will provide advice and guidance from outside of Governnment, and will partner with the White House and Office of Management & Budget to drive large scale structural reform, and create an entrepreneurial approach to Government never seen before.

I look forward to Elon and Vivek making changes to the Federal Bureaucracy with an eye on efficiency and, at the same time, making life better for all Americans. Importantly, we will drive out the massive waste and fraud which exists throughout our annual $6.5 Trillion Dollars of Government Spending. They will work together to liberate our Economy, and make the U.S. Government accountable to “WE THE PEOPLE.” Their work will conclude no later than July 4, 2026 – A small Government, with more efficiency and less bureaucracy, will be the perfect gift to America on the 250th Anniversary of The Declaration of Independence. I am confident they will succeed!

[Gunny]

Not adding an agency.

Really. That bullshit and you know it. "Department of ...". Musk and Ramaswamy solo, at large. Can't be solo though, since it's taking two of them. Sure off to a good start cutting unnecessary jobs:rolleyes:

[SassyLady]

Really. That bullshit and you know it. Musk and Ramaswamy solo, at large. Can't be solo though, since it's taking two of them. Sure off to a good start cutting unnecessary jobs:rolleyes:
They aren't being paid anything. They are not working for the governed. You need to do a little more research rather than just jumping on your anti Trump pessimistic wagon.

[Gunny]

They aren't being paid anything. They are not working for the governed. You need to do a little more research rather than just jumping on your anti Trump pessimistic wagon.

Seriously. They aren't working for the government. Just a newly formed department of government under the Executive Branch. You sound like a Democrat. "That might look, feel and smell like dogshit, but it isn't dogshit:rolleyes:

The People gave Trump a second chance and he's fucking it up with his cronies.

[SassyLady]

Seriously. They aren't working for the government. Just a newly formed department of government under the Executive Branch. You sound like a Democrat. "That might look, feel and smell like dogshit, but it isn't dogshit:rolleyes:

The People gave Trump a second chance and he's fucking it up with his cronies.
They are on a commission. Not government employees. Seriously.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/11/13/what-we-know-about-elon-musks-department-of-government-efficiency/

[Gunny]

They are on a commission. Not government employees. Seriously.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/11/13/what-we-know-about-elon-musks-department-of-government-efficiency/


Donald Trump tapped (https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/11/12/trump-says-elon-musk-will-head-new-department-of-government-efficiency-alongside-vivek-ramaswamy/) him to lead the “Department Of Government Efficiency,” though exactly what the commission will do is still not exactly clear.

You go right ahead and believe the smokescreen word salad:rolleyes:

[SassyLady]

You go right ahead and believe the smokescreen word salad:rolleyes:

Despite its name, the billionaire-led commission is not proposed as an official government agency, but rather an advisory board which will “provide advice and guidance from outside of Government,” wrote Trump, who set forth the department’s primary objectives are to “dismantle Government Bureaucracy,

[NightTrain]

Seriously. They aren't working for the government. Just a newly formed department of government under the Executive Branch. You sound like a Democrat. "That might look, feel and smell like dogshit, but it isn't dogshit:rolleyes:

The People gave Trump a second chance and he's fucking it up with his cronies.


Trump is following through with EXACTLY what he promised as he campaigned. DOGE was openly talked about extensively, with Elon and Vivek being the axemen.

You might want to give this team a chance. This is nothing like any of us have seen in our lifetime, and we've all bitched about how bloated the Fed Gov is and how terrible it is. The goal is to slash at least 1/3 of the Fed budget, hopes are for much more.

Radical? Yeah, for sure. But neccessary and the mood of the country is supporting this effort. Now is the time.

[Gunny]

Trump is following through with EXACTLY what he promised as he campaigned. DOGE was openly talked about extensively, with Elon and Vivek being the axemen.

You might want to give this team a chance. This is nothing like any of us have seen in our lifetime, and we've all bitched about how bloated the Fed Gov is and how terrible it is. The goal is to slash at least 1/3 of the Fed budget, hopes are for much more.

Radical? Yeah, for sure. But neccessary and the mood of the country is supporting this effort. Now is the time.

Not the argument being had. Trump can waste his time and people's goodwill anyway he wants. Such a waste.

I'm just trying to figure out the part where a Department is not a department and how it can have any official authority without being a department. Smoke and mirrors:rolleyes:

As it stands, I'm also trying to differentiate between current admin's corrupt and future/proposed admin's inept/incompetence. Either way it's the Nation and the People that lose.

[Black Diamond]

Not the argument being had. Trump can waste his time and people's goodwill anyway he wants. Such a waste.

I'm just trying to figure out the part where a Department is not a department and how it can have any official authority without being a department. Smoke and mirrors:rolleyes:

As it stands, I'm also trying to differentiate between current admin's corrupt and future/proposed admin's inept/incompetence. Either way it's the Nation and the People that lose.

If you're right and this is a wasteful department then the name of the dept will sound Orwellian

[NightTrain]

Not the argument being had. Trump can waste his time and people's goodwill anyway he wants. Such a waste.

I'm just trying to figure out the part where a Department is not a department and how it can have any official authority without being a department. Smoke and mirrors:rolleyes:

As it stands, I'm also trying to differentiate between current admin's corrupt and future/proposed admin's inept/incompetence. Either way it's the Nation and the People that lose.


I guess the difference between us is that I'm optimistic that this can be done, and it's a worthy cause led by some extraordinary people who can't be bought & corrupted on this most noble of endeavors.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and I'm fully supportive of the effort. At the very least I think people should allow them to try and then judge.

Doing nothing will lead to the end of this country. The debt being serviced now is more than the entire DOD budget and is spiraling wildly out of control and soon will be out of reach to stop. A reasonable person could look at this as a last ditch effort to save this nation from itself from irresponsible politicians who were only interested in their own short lived political gains - one example illustrated by Biden emtying the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before the last midterms so democrats could point out how gas prices were coming down a week before the election.

[Black Diamond]

I guess the difference between us is that I'm optimistic that this can be done, and it's a worthy cause led by some extraordinary people who can't be bought & corrupted on this most noble of endeavors.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and I'm fully supportive of the effort. At the very least I think people should allow them to try and then judge.

Doing nothing will lead to the end of this country. The debt being serviced now is more than the entire DOD budget and is spiraling wildly out of control and soon will be out of reach to stop. A reasonable person could look at this as a last ditch effort to save this nation from itself from irresponsible politicians who were only interested in their own short lived political gains - one example illustrated by Biden emtying the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before the last midterms so democrats could point out how gas prices were coming down a week before the election.

It may take more one term or half term to do it.

[NightTrain]

It may take more one term or half term to do it.

It's a massive undertaking, no doubt about it. But we can reevaluate in 2 years and at this point, any departments being nuked from orbit are a win. There's a staggering amount of useless departments that, at the very least, need to be pruned - if not eliminated outright, like Dept of Education.

[Kathianne]

I guess the difference between us is that I'm optimistic that this can be done, and it's a worthy cause led by some extraordinary people who can't be bought & corrupted on this most noble of endeavors.

We have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and I'm fully supportive of the effort. At the very least I think people should allow them to try and then judge.

Doing nothing will lead to the end of this country. The debt being serviced now is more than the entire DOD budget and is spiraling wildly out of control and soon will be out of reach to stop. A reasonable person could look at this as a last ditch effort to save this nation from itself from irresponsible politicians who were only interested in their own short lived political gains - one example illustrated by Biden emtying the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before the last midterms so democrats could point out how gas prices were coming down a week before the election.

I agree with your sentiments, though will take all of this much more seriously when the 'right' gets serious on pulling back on entitlements.

[fj1200]

He doesn't seem to be too bored with Tesla, Star Link, SpaceX ... etc.

I think he's going to enjoy the hell out of finding efficiencies.

Throw in a couple of "inefficiency" meetings and I think his eyes will glaze over.


Not adding an agency.


It will become, potentially, “The Manhattan Project” of our time. Republican politicians have dreamed about the objectivies of “DOGE” for a very long time. To drive this kind of drastic change, the Department of Government Efficiency will provide advice and guidance from outside of Governnment, and will partner with the White House and Office of Management & Budget to drive large scale structural reform, and create an entrepreneurial approach to Government never seen before.

I look forward to Elon and Vivek making changes to the Federal Bureaucracy with an eye on efficiency and, at the same time, making life better for all Americans. Importantly, we will drive out the massive waste and fraud which exists throughout our annual $6.5 Trillion Dollars of Government Spending. They will work together to liberate our Economy, and make the U.S. Government accountable to “WE THE PEOPLE.” Their work will conclude no later than July 4, 2026 – A small Government, with more efficiency and less bureaucracy, will be the perfect gift to America on the 250th Anniversary of The Declaration of Independence. I am confident they will succeed!

You're quite the cheerleader. Unfortunately entitlements...

[SassyLady]

Throw in a couple of "inefficiency" meetings and I think his eyes will glaze over.



You're quite the cheerleader. Unfortunately entitlements...
Jeeeze ... aren't you tired of using that word to explain away the waste in government.

[fj1200]

Jeeeze ... aren't you tired of using that word to explain away the waste in government.

Do you understand that waste in government and entitlements are two different things? Honest question.