North Korean Troops in Ukraine: Are We on the Path to World War III?

[Gunny]

North Korean Troops in Ukraine: Are We on the Path to World War III? (https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2024/10/30/north-korean-troops-in-ukraine-are-we-on-the-path-to-world-war-iii/)

[revelarts]

North Korean Troops in Ukraine: Are We on the Path to World War III? (https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2024/10/30/north-korean-troops-in-ukraine-are-we-on-the-path-to-world-war-iii/)

What does this guy think are "suitable measures to counter" this new "Axis of evil" we should be in mortal fear of?

Pre-Emptive strikes on Moscow or Pyongyang... for peace?
Sheesh

Haters gotta Hate
Warmongers gotta Warmonger

[Gunny]

What does this guy think are "suitable measures to counter" this new "Axis of evil" we should be in mortal fear of?

Pre-Emptive strikes on Moscow or Pyongyang... for peace?
Sheesh

Haters gotta Hate
Warmongers gotta Warmonger

When war comes this time, it isn't going to be "over there". It's coming here. The time and distance that used to isolate this continent no longer applies. No one has to invade to sit back and launch enough hypersonic missiles to overwhelm any pretense at defense the government will tell you we have. Our "defense" protects the government and its essential personnel and materiel. Non-essential personnel and infrastructure are exactly that.

Defending ourselves and our assets is hardly warmongering. It's called common sense and survival. Let's review:

For the past however many years you have been refusing to accept the fact that this is coming, whether or not you or anyone else wants it, or likes it. Meanwhile, everything during that time has pointed to escalation and consolidation by these evil miscreants that want to rule the World just like all the ones that have come before them. It has been significantly worse the past 4 years because they have been emboldened by a fickle, incompetent jellyfish Potatus and his Admin. Exacerbated by a faction(s) that somehow thinks that if they pretend it's not happening it won't.

The same mindset that has you waiting for a bomb to drop in your yard has permeated society and government and suddenly, we aren't prepared nor do we have adequate industry in line to catch up any time soon. if at all. We are going to have to rely on the production capabilities of those allies you don't want to defend.

Trying to shake awake a Nation that in its arrogance thinks it can't be hit to the danger we are in is hardly warmongering. It's dealing with reality.

[revelarts]

When war comes this time, it isn't going to be "over there". It's coming here. The time and distance that used to isolate this continent no longer applies. No one has to invade to sit back and launch enough hypersonic missiles to overwhelm any pretense at defense the government will tell you we have. Our "defense" protects the government and its essential personnel and materiel. Non-essential personnel and infrastructure are exactly that.

Defending ourselves and our assets is hardly warmongering. It's called common sense and survival. Let's review:

For the past however many years you have been refusing to accept the fact that this is coming, whether or not you or anyone else wants it, or likes it. Meanwhile, everything during that time has pointed to escalation and consolidation by these evil miscreants that want to rule the World just like all the ones that have come before them. It has been significantly worse the past 4 years because they have been emboldened by a fickle, incompetent jellyfish Potatus and his Admin. Exacerbated by a faction(s) that somehow thinks that if they pretend it's not happening it won't.

The same mindset that has you waiting for a bomb to drop in your yard has permeated society and government and suddenly, we aren't prepared nor do we have adequate industry in line to catch up any time soon. if at all. We are going to have to rely on the production capabilities of those allies you don't want to defend.

Trying to shake awake a Nation that in its arrogance thinks it can't be hit to the danger we are in is hardly warmongering. It's dealing with reality.

So we're in more danger NOW than when the U.S.S.R. was larger in every way & expanding?
We're in more danger NOW than when the Saddam was going to hit the UK with missiles and our warning would be mushroom cloud?
We're in more danger NOW than when the Ahmadinejad of Iran was going start a Jihad Caliphate at any minute and would have nukes ready to kill us all in a few days?
We're in more danger NOW than when the terrorist were going kill us all & over run the nation.. with the true radical muslim... gay baptist Obama leading the way?

Someone mentioned "crying wolf" somewhere.

We're in more danger NOW than ever? Even though (even with "cuts" (less increase)) in military spending we still spend more than every other country in the world combined?

Look, we'd probably agree that the military spending could be put to better use.
But i'm long over the idea that we are CONSTANTLY in mortal danger of total destruction & imminent overthrow from some foreign land.

As I mentioned to you a not too long ago Gunny, to me, you have a very keen sense of supposed foreign military dangers but you seem to minimize the ongoing dangers from within & without that are dismantling the nation you so are passionate to defend.
The on going attacks by legal & political stealth have been far more destructive over the past 30 years than any POTENTIAL one day maybe military attacks that you prophecy sure to come one day.

[Black Diamond]

So we're in more danger NOW than when the U.S.S.R. was larger in every way & expanding?
We're in more danger NOW than when the Saddam was going to hit the UK with missiles and our warning would be mushroom cloud?
We're in more danger NOW than when the Ahmadinejad of Iran was going start a Jihad Caliphate at any minute and would have nukes ready to kill us all in a few days?
We're in more danger NOW than when the terrorist were going kill us all & over run the nation.. with the true radical muslim... gay baptist Obama leading the way?

Someone mentioned "crying wolf" somewhere.

We're in more danger NOW than ever? Even though (even with "cuts" (less increase)) in military spending we still spend more than every other country in the world combined?

Look, we'd probably agree that the military spending could be put to better use.


But i'm long over the idea that we are CONSTANTLY in mortal danger of total destruction & imminent overthrow from some foreign land.

As I mentioned to you a not too long ago Gunny, to me, you have a very keen sense of supposed foreign military dangers but you seem to minimize the ongoing dangers from within & without that are dismantling the nation you so are passionate to defend.
The on going attacks by legal & political stealth have been far more destructive over the past 30 years than any POTENTIAL one day maybe military attacks that you prophecy sure to come one day.
I think everyone agrees that the bolded is the case. Most dangerous time since 1962. Just a question of why its dangerous. And how it became dangerous.

[NightTrain]

I have mixed feelings on this.

Russia is a paper tiger. It's crazy to see how overhyped they were before being exposed for a totally incompetent 'military power' that can't even win a war with a tiny, barely armed country right on their own border. All of their weapons systems are junk in comparison to NATO gear.

Israel just took out all of Iran's S-300 and S-400 air defense systems purchased from Russia. As far as I know, they didn't even launch ONE missile before turning into a pile of smoking steel. Russian tanks are nothing more than mildly upgraded T-72s, and our Bradleys & Strykers over there have taken out Russian Main Battle Tanks solo.

Russia can't fight a conventional war with European NATO, let alone the US. I'd bet the farm that Poland could prove more than capable of defeating them solo.

The last muscle-flexing launch of an ICBM was a spectacular failure. With the awful state of maintenance of all their other gear, are we confident that those nukes can even fly? Granted, that's a risk no one wants to take... but I'm quite certain that Russia's even more worried about that. It takes a great deal of money to keep those ready to fly, and that's something they're extremely short on these days.

Everything we thought we knew about Russia's military has been wrong. The more we see, the worse they look.

I honestly don't think they're a threat to anyone other than the poor bastards who live next door - and to themselves. Especially to themselves.


North Korea isn't a threat. He's a menace to his people, and that's about it. South Korea has transformed into a military powerhouse and is more than capable of beating them conventionally. The problem there is SK doesn't have nukes, and NK does. While I'm loathe to see expansion of the nuclear club, I think SK should arm themselves. That would balance the peninsula and Rocket Man would stop his launching of missiles for fear of triggering a nuclear strike.

I think our greatest danger lies in China/Taiwan. When Trump is seated, that threat diminishes greatly because dictators fear him. I'm actually kind of surprised that they haven't launched the invasion yet, because we would not respond... but they still have a couple months. I don't think it would take them more than a month, but then again, Taiwan is heavily armed and has top notch equipment. Still, it would take a full force assault to get the job done and it would be a matter of time without US intervention.

A non-pacifist Japan is needed to balance the far east. China and Korea fear the Japanese, and rightly so. Who would have thought that Japan would have to be encouraged to assert military projection in the area? Truman and MacArthur would be proud to see how long that pacifist behavior lasted.

Anyway, if China doesn't launch in the next month, they won't do anything for at least 4 years... they won't have enough time to complete their little adventure before Trump is seated.

[revelarts]

http://echotru.info/blog-1/
2nd video, then 1st
(Give it a second to load... It's before "elections")

Former Longtime State Dept Advisor +
Gives Long term insiders view of why we're in Ukraine situation.
And reasons & prospects for peace.
And reasons why we might not get peace... because of stupid people in D.C. operating on busted paradigms.

[Gunny]

http://echotru.info/blog-1/
2nd video, then 1st
(Give it a second to load... It's before "elections")

Former Longtime State Dept Advisor +
Gives Long term insiders view of why we're in Ukraine situation.
And reasons & prospects for peace.
And reasons why we might not get peace... because of stupid people in D.C. operating on busted paradigms.

We aren't going to get "peace" because of foreign idiots Hell-bent on war. Pretending they aren't what they are and they're not there is not going to change a thing.