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Kathianne
10-11-2024, 06:12 PM
Hanson explains that due to their horrendous choices and back stabbing pronouncements, Israel is dealing with their neighbors alone. In the long run, will probably help the US, but Israel has learned a real lesson, along with other allies. The US is not trustworthy. Just like children lying or stealing, trust is hard to earn, easy to lose.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/10/11/try-little-honesty-about-israel-2/


CommentaryTry a Little Honesty About Israel
Victor Davis Hanson | October 11, 2024
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With House Speaker Mike Johnson (top left) and Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., looking on, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks to a joint session of Congress on July 24. Conspicuously and deliberately absent was Vice President Kamala Harris, who as president of the Senate should have been there. (Allison Bailey/Middle East Images/AFP/Getty Images)


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Both the Harris-Walz presidential ticket and now lame-duck President Joe Biden keep insisting that they are Israel’s best friend.


A snarly Biden recently bragged at a contentious press conference, “No administration has helped Israel more than I have. None, none, none. And I think [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] should remember that.”


Yet the thin-skinned and triggered Biden’s prickliness poorly hid—or perhaps revealed—the truth: This current administration knows that it is responsible for the current explosion of the Middle East and the particular dilemmas of Israel.


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Biden further revealed his blame-gaming of the Israeli government when asked another loaded question about purported Netanyahu election interference, saying, “Whether he’s trying to influence the election, I don’t know.”


Election interference?


Biden apparently forgot who just flew Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into swing-state Pennsylvania, just as early and mail-in voting there began, to lobby for more aid even as he trashed candidates Donald Trump and JD Vance to a left-wing magazine.


Recently, Democratic candidate Vice President Kamala Harris refused to say whether the Netanyahu administration is even an ally of the United States.


Her Democratic running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, could not state whether the Democratic ticket would approve of an Israeli response—by either targeting the Iranian nuclear bomb program or its oil fields and exporting facilities—to some 500 Iranian missiles and rockets that hit the Jewish state.


Another Bob Woodward racy and gossipy tell-all book just appeared. It alleges that Biden despised Netanyahu and has reportedly smeared him to aides: “That son of a b—-, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy. He’s a bad f–king guy!”


What are we to make of this Biden-Harris-Walz mess?


It is an election year and one of the closest races in modern memory. Biden and his would-be successors, Harris-Walz, know that support for Israel is a bipartisan cornerstone of U.S. foreign policy and critical for Democratic unity.


Yet they feel they must also pander to anti-Israel, Muslim-American voters who may determine the Electoral College votes of critical swing-state Michigan.


Democratic politicos square that circle by claiming they support Israel—despite damning the conservative Netanyahu. That way they seek to blame Netanyahu for alienating Arab and Muslim-American voters, while they do not alienate left-wing Jewish and pro-Israeli Democrats.


For all the invective, a demonized Netanyahu is now regaining public support in Israel. The Israeli public approves of his near-destruction of Hamas, the ongoing brilliant Israeli emasculation of Hezbollah, and Israel’s revelations that the once widely feared terrorist regime in Iran may in fact well prove to be a paper tiger.


Biden national security adviser Jake Sullivan admitted just eight days before the Oct. 7 massacres that “the Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades.”


His boast was an admission that Biden and Harris had inherited from the prior Trump administration a stable Middle East.


So, what blew up Sullivan’s quietude?


Certainly not Netanyahu or Israel in general.


It was the terrorists of Hamas who surprise-attacked and killed 1,200 Israeli civilians during peace and a Jewish holiday.


Their slaughtering, torturing, raping, and hostage-taking revealed a level of precivilization barbarism rarely seen in the modern era.


Israel was simultaneously targeted by rockets from Hamas and Hezbollah that would eventually number more than 20,000.


It did not respond to the bloodbath with a full-scale invasion of Gaza until Oct. 27, some three weeks after the slaughtering.


During that interim, for most of the Muslim world and both U.S. Muslim communities and on American campuses, there was rejoicing at the news of slaughtered Jews.


For over three years, the Biden administration had signaled Israel’s enemies that it no longer acted like a close ally of the past.


After it all, Biden-Harris lifted sanctions on a hostile Iran, giving it $100 billion in oil windfalls. It begged Iran to reenter the disastrous Iran deal. It abandoned the Abraham Accords. It lifted the terrorist designation from the terrorist Houthis. It restored fungible aid to the Hamas tunnel builders. It gave new aid to Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon.


Israel’s enemies got the Biden message: Attack the Jewish state, and perhaps Americans for the first time in a half-century may not really mind that much.


And so they did, in unison.


Rather than admitting their own role in igniting the Middle East, Biden and Harris now blame the victims of their own incendiary foreign policy.


The final irony?


Israel has concluded that Biden-Harris foolhardiness can be toxic and endanger its very survival—and so, will not agree to its own suicide.


Instead, Israel seeks to finish a multifaceted war it did not seek. And one of whose beneficiaries from Israeli blood and treasure will be the U.S. itself, given Israel is now systematically weakening America’s own existential enemies.

Gunny
10-12-2024, 11:02 AM
Hanson explains that due to their horrendous choices and back stabbing pronouncements, Israel is dealing with their neighbors alone. In the long run, will probably help the US, but Israel has learned a real lesson, along with other allies. The US is not trustworthy. Just like children lying or stealing, trust is hard to earn, easy to lose.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/10/11/try-little-honesty-about-israel-2/Just a thought, and bear with me ...

What if Israel is forced to turn to someone else as a superpower ally? Being US support is its last leg in the West pretty much. As I've stated repeatedly in the past and the author hits on as well, sucks to be a US ally and dependent on us for support. We're too busy kissing the World's collective asses:rolleyes:

Might be a stretch but I can think of only one country it could turn to: China. China is not the threat to Israel it is to the US, nor is Israel any big threat to China. Rightly, Israel is a threat to no one when left alone.

On the other hand, China DOES have a border dispute with Iran (besides everyone else), and Iran could be a regional threat to China. Keeping Israel armed and on Iran's back door would not be to China's detriment. Despite claims to the media to the contrary, China really could care less about how many Islamic fundamentalists and/or Arabs get killed.

Not a conspiracy theory. I conspire with no one :) Just a theory based on possibility. I don't think Israel is as picky about who is arming it as those in the West wish to believe. Just to add some context, the US was originally against Israel before it was for it.

Kathianne
10-12-2024, 11:12 AM
Just a thought, and bear with me ...

What if Israel is forced to turn to someone else as a superpower ally? Being US support is its last leg in the West pretty much. As I've stated repeatedly in the past and the author hits on as well, sucks to be a US ally and dependent on us for support. We're too busy kissing the World's collective asses:rolleyes:

Might be a stretch but I can think of only one country it could turn to: China. China is not the threat to Israel it is to the US, nor is Israel any big threat to China. Rightly, Israel is a threat to no one when left alone.

On the other hand, China DOES have a border dispute with Iran (besides everyone else), and Iran could be a regional threat to China. Keeping Israel armed and on Iran's back door would not be to China's detriment. Despite claims to the media to the contrary, China really could care less about how many Islamic fundamentalists and/or Arabs get killed.

Not a conspiracy theory. I conspire with no one :) Just a theory based on possibility. I don't think Israel is as picky about who is arming it as those in the West wish to believe. Just to add some context, the US was originally against Israel before it was for it.

I don't think it's far fetched, in fact there was some moves in that direction from what a quick perusal of internet suggests. However the past few years realignments have brought Iran into the axis of China, Russia, NK, with Iran being a fourth leg.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/05/china-is-burning-all-its-bridges-with-israel.html

Gunny
10-12-2024, 11:44 AM
I don't think it's far fetched, in fact there was some moves in that direction from what a quick perusal of internet suggests. However the past few years realignments have brought Iran into the axis of China, Russia, NK, with Iran being a fourth leg.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2024/05/china-is-burning-all-its-bridges-with-israel.htmlNo doubt China would have to reassess its priorities. However, from what I have seen, China is quite the fair-weather, one foot already in the lifeboat Axis ally. IMO, everything it is doing is to its own benefit. A loose alliance with the enemies of its biggest enemy being one. China's obvious endgame however is there can be only one.

Something neither Russia nor China has mentioned since Russia invaded Ukraine is while China has been dealing back and forth with Russia, it also quietly has re-occupied disputed territory in Russia's West/China's NE. What's Russia going to do? One thing Russia's war with Ukraine has made glaringly obvious is Russia does not have the military means to defend its own territory. Not and fight a war of attrition.

China is actually everyone's enemy. The West is starting to wake up to it. The US is playing catch up in the Pacific. No doubt Putin thinks he's using Pooh, all the while Pooh is eyeing all that undefended Russian real estate that used to belong to China.

Iran is like the third wheel on a date.

In the meantime, from a geopolitical standpoint coming down to brass tacks, what does Israel have to offer? The US has supported Israel from an ideological standpoint. Its only value otherwise is strategic, if we want to defend the Middle East. Fact is, when you get rid of all the smoke the whiners are blowing, we can produce as much or more oil than we get from the ME.

Anyway, I just go to pondering what could Israel do if it finally just had it with all this wishy-washy, hamstringing BS from the US. Russia is out. It's having a hard enough time trying to supply itself. Terrorist-hugging Euro nations are worse dishrags than the US. Not to mention hypocritical, antisemitic douchebags. Sure don't seem to be all that worried about people dying in Russia-Ukraine. Matter of fact, they keep a daily tally of Russian dead watching Putin kill off most of his population for land.

That only leaves China. Japan and S. Korea are stuck following whatever the US wants. Poor them:rolleyes:

Kathianne
10-12-2024, 12:54 PM
No doubt China would have to reassess its priorities. However, from what I have seen, China is quite the fair-weather, one foot already in the lifeboat Axis ally. IMO, everything it is doing is to its own benefit. A loose alliance with the enemies of its biggest enemy being one. China's obvious endgame however is there can be only one.

Something neither Russia nor China has mentioned since Russia invaded Ukraine is while China has been dealing back and forth with Russia, it also quietly has re-occupied disputed territory in Russia's West/China's NE. What's Russia going to do? One thing Russia's war with Ukraine has made glaringly obvious is Russia does not have the military means to defend its own territory. Not and fight a war of attrition.

China is actually everyone's enemy. The West is starting to wake up to it. The US is playing catch up in the Pacific. No doubt Putin thinks he's using Pooh, all the while Pooh is eyeing all that undefended Russian real estate that used to belong to China.

Iran is like the third wheel on a date.

In the meantime, from a geopolitical standpoint coming down to brass tacks, what does Israel have to offer? The US has supported Israel from an ideological standpoint. Its only value otherwise is strategic, if we want to defend the Middle East. Fact is, when you get rid of all the smoke the whiners are blowing, we can produce as much or more oil than we get from the ME.

Anyway, I just go to pondering what could Israel do if it finally just had it with all this wishy-washy, hamstringing BS from the US. Russia is out. It's having a hard enough time trying to supply itself. Terrorist-hugging Euro nations are worse dishrags than the US. Not to mention hypocritical, antisemitic douchebags. Sure don't seem to be all that worried about people dying in Russia-Ukraine. Matter of fact, they keep a daily tally of Russian dead watching Putin kill off most of his population for land.

That only leaves China. Japan and S. Korea are stuck following whatever the US wants. Poor them:rolleyes:

Right now I see Russia, albeit with Nukes, much like post WW1 UK. Riding on reputation only, but so fundamentally changed there is no going back.

Gunny
10-12-2024, 07:39 PM
Right now I see Russia, albeit with Nukes, much like post WW1 UK. Riding on reputation only, but so fundamentally changed there is no going back.

Sounds like another country I know of:smoke:

fj1200
10-13-2024, 11:13 AM
Just a thought, and bear with me ...

No chance. Russia and China are too anti-free market capitalism to embrace anything close to that. They're more about oppression than well functioning governments and economies not to mention that China would have no "investment" opportunities where Israel would need to borrow a few tens of billions of dollars; that's what drives China. Back door agreements with the Saudi's however...

Gunny
10-13-2024, 11:36 AM
No chance. Russia and China are too anti-free market capitalism to embrace anything close to that. They're more about oppression than well functioning governments and economies not to mention that China would have no "investment" opportunities where Israel would need to borrow a few tens of billions of dollars; that's what drives China. Back door agreements with the Saudi's however...

Unless China replaced the US's subsidies. Israel doesn't exactly support itself. China seems to be all about free market capitalism when it comes to ensnaring others and enriching itself.

Was just a thought anyway. I see it as highly unlikely but current Admin and proposed successor could drive Israel to desperation. Israel doesn't appear too picky about the politics of its benefactors. They were flying Soviet planes at one point in time.