Republican anger clouds Zelensky-Biden 'victory plan' meeting

[Gunny]

Trump and his followers need to stop crying. They have no one to blame but themselves. Agree with supporting Ukraine or not, having a titty tantrum because Zelenskiy prefers the party that will support his country is just crybaby shit.

Republican anger clouds Zelensky's crunch Biden meeting (bbc.com) (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80rkv0k4j8o)

[Kathianne]

Very interesting today, twice already Trump and Zelensky made appearances with press. They are in agreement that war needs to end and Russia is and was the aggressor.

Most interesting to me is that Biden/Harris went to great and perhaps illegal means to bring Zelensky here and the tables have been turned on them apparently. It seems Zelensky may be convinced of whom he'll be dealing with long term?

[fj1200]

Very interesting today, twice already Trump and Zelensky made appearances with press. They are in agreement that war needs to end and Russia is and was the aggressor.

Most interesting to me is that Biden/Harris went to great and perhaps illegal means to bring Zelensky here and the tables have been turned on them apparently. It seems Zelensky may be convinced of whom he'll be dealing with long term?

What's a little foreign influence among friends...

[Gunny]

Very interesting today, twice already Trump and Zelensky made appearances with press. They are in agreement that war needs to end and Russia is and was the aggressor.

Most interesting to me is that Biden/Harris went to great and perhaps illegal means to bring Zelensky here and the tables have been turned on them apparently. It seems Zelensky may be convinced of whom he'll be dealing with long term?

In what way would he be here illegally?

I think Zelenskiy is smart enough not to burn any bridges when nobody has any idea who is going to be the next President. Except the Marxist MSM:rolleyes:

[Kathianne]

In what way would he be here illegally?

I think Zelenskiy is smart enough not to burn any bridges when nobody has any idea who is going to be the next President. Except the Marxist MSM:rolleyes:

Biden/Harris using military jet as an Uber isn't kosher.

[Gunny]

Biden/Harris using military jet as an Uber isn't kosher.Interesting.

One could make the argument that it is situationally practical. How else would you get Zelenskiy to the US that has the best odds of him not falling prey to one of Putin's many arranged "accidents"?

Not arguing your point. Just wonder what the alternatives are given the situation.

[Kathianne]

Interesting.

One could make the argument that it is situationally practical. How else would you get Zelenskiy to the US that has the best odds of him not falling prey to one of Putin's many arranged "accidents"?

Not arguing your point. Just wonder what the alternatives are given the situation.

Considering it was used within the US, kinda loses the impact, no? LOL! They gave him quick ride to rally for Kamala!

[Gunny]

Considering it was used within the US, kinda loses the impact, no? LOL! They gave him quick ride to rally for Kamala!

I looked it up :) If a foreign President is on an official visit to the US, the US President is host and responsible for all logistics, up to and including the use of Air Force One. If the visit is not official, it's on the foreign nation to provide.

Guess it all depends on whether or not Zelenskiy's visit is "official". I'm guessing it is.

I really can't see a foreign dignitary, much less President, being stuck on a Soutwest Airlines sardine can bus with wings:rolleyes:

[Kathianne]

I looked it up :) If a foreign President is on an official visit to the US, the US President is host and responsible for all logistics, up to and including the use of Air Force One. If the visit is not official, it's on the foreign nation to provide.

Guess it all depends on whether or not Zelenskiy's visit is "official". I'm guessing it is.

I really can't see a foreign dignitary, much less President, being stuck on a Soutwest Airlines sardine can bus with wings:rolleyes:

I don't think they need an Air Force plane, other than if with the President on AF!. There are less expensive choices available I'm sure.

[Gunny]

I don't think they need an Air Force plane, other than if with the President on AF!. There are less expensive choices available I'm sure.

You're talking to the guy that stabs his steak and holds it over the fire:laugh: I MUCH preferred travelling on cargo planes than commercial ones. They get up and go, and get where they're going without all the fuss and BS. Zelenskiy runs around in a military field uniform anyway. My first best guess is going to be security. Z's is probably better than Trump's:rolleyes:

Can you imagine though if something was to happen to Z while in the US due to a lack of security? He's the leader of a country at war. I don't see taking more risk than is necessary. I really don't see the need for the visit to begin with and if I was his Ukrainian security he'd have gotten a real good idea what I thought about risking such a trip at all.

Then, I don't much see why a whole bunch of politicians' travel is what it is.