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revelarts
08-28-2024, 09:50 AM
old news


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/minneapolis-becomes-first-major-u-s-city-to-broadcast-islamic-call-to-prayer-5-times-per-day




Minneapolis becomes first major U.S. city to broadcast Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Nation Apr 14, 2023 12:21 PM EDT
MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. (AP) — Minneapolis will allow broadcasts of the Muslim call to prayer at all hours, becoming the first major U.S. city to allow the announcement or “adhan” to be heard over speakers five times a day, year-round.

The Minneapolis City Council unanimously agreed Thursday to amend the city’s noise ordinance, which had prevented dawn and late evening calls at certain times of the year due to noise restrictions, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. The vote came during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

“The Constitution doesn’t sleep at night,” said Jaylani Hussein, executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, after the vote. He said the action in Minneapolis shows the world that a “nation founded on freedom of religion makes good on its promise.”

Minneapolis has had a flourishing population of East African immigrants since at least the 1990s, and mosques now are common. Three of 13 members of the council identify as Muslim. The decision drew no organized community opposition. Mayor Jacob Frey is expected to sign the measure next week.

“Minneapolis has become a city for all religions,” said Imam Mohammed Dukuly of Masjid An-Nur mosque in Minneapolis, who was among several Muslim leaders who witnessed the vote.

Three years ago, city officials worked with the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque to allow the adhan to be broadcast outdoors five times daily during Ramadan. Prayers are said when light appears at dawn, at noon, at mid- to late afternoon, at sunset and when the night sky appears. In Minnesota, dawn arrives as early as before 5:30 a.m. in summer, while sunset at the solstice happens after 9 p.m.

The city allowed year-round broadcasts last year, but only between 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. — typically excluding early morning prayer and sometimes night prayer.

At a recent public hearing, Christian and Jewish leaders expressed support for extending the hours for the adhan.

Council Member Lisa Goodman, who on Thursday was observing the final day of Passover, said the Jewish call to prayer — which is generally spoken rather than broadcast — doesn’t face legal restrictions. Observers said church bells regularly toll for Christians.

“It’s something I grew up with, but not my children,” council member Jamal Osman said, adding that hearing the call to prayer from local mosques brings him joy.

Call to prayer ordinance raises First Amendment questions
Free exercise v. establishment clause at issue
https://minnesotareformer.com/2023/05/05/call-to-prayer-ordinance-raises-first-amendment-questions/


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The new ordinance allows Muslims to play the call to prayer from the mosques around the city the customary five times a day, from pre-dawn to post-sunset. The previous noise ordinance prohibited the call to prayer — known in Arabic as the adhan — during certain early morning and late night hours.
But the widespread blessing of the new measure — which was unanimously approved by the City Council and praised by Mayor Jacob Frey — overlooks some of its legal vulnerabilities.

The litigation might be regarded as being brought in bad faith for the purposes of trolling the city and its Muslim community, but the city’s attorneys should be prepared in any case because there are substantial — and legitimate — legal issues arising from the ordinance that warrant scrutiny and cannot easily be brushed away under the “frivolous litigation” rubric.

Under the establishment clause of the First Amendment, government bodies may not give preferential treatment to religious groups or religious practices. Although there is necessarily some flexibility, the Minneapolis measure would appear to give preference to one particular religion — a form of favoritism that is not condoned under this provision.

The courts have devised a three-part test derived from a 1971 U.S. Supreme Court case — Lemon v. Kurtzman — for determining the validity of establishment clause challenges:

• Does the policy have a secular purpose?

• Does the measure advance or inhibit religion?

• Would a legal challenge involve “excessive entanglement” by the judiciary if subject to litigation?...


Let's put the shoe on the other foot, if Christians did this. and broadcast public prayer over government sanctioned loudspeakers, so that every resident within hearing were forced heard that prayer, even if they are of another faith or have no belief at all, would that be allowed?

Kathianne
08-28-2024, 10:12 AM
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/minneapolis-becomes-first-major-u-s-city-to-broadcast-islamic-call-to-prayer-5-times-per-day



Minneapolis becomes first major U.S. city to broadcast Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day
Nation Apr 14, 2023 12:21 PM EDT
MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. (AP) — Minneapolis will allow broadcasts of the Muslim call to prayer at all hours, becoming the first major U.S. city to allow the announcement or “adhan” to be heard over speakers five times a day, year-round.

The Minneapolis City Council unanimously agreed Thursday to amend the city’s noise ordinance, which had prevented dawn and late evening calls at certain times of the year due to noise restrictions, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. The vote came during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

“The Constitution doesn’t sleep at night,” said Jaylani Hussein, executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, after the vote. He said the action in Minneapolis shows the world that a “nation founded on freedom of religion makes good on its promise.”

Minneapolis has had a flourishing population of East African immigrants since at least the 1990s, and mosques now are common. Three of 13 members of the council identify as Muslim. The decision drew no organized community opposition. Mayor Jacob Frey is expected to sign the measure next week.

“Minneapolis has become a city for all religions,” said Imam Mohammed Dukuly of Masjid An-Nur mosque in Minneapolis, who was among several Muslim leaders who witnessed the vote.

Three years ago, city officials worked with the Dar Al-Hijrah mosque to allow the adhan to be broadcast outdoors five times daily during Ramadan. Prayers are said when light appears at dawn, at noon, at mid- to late afternoon, at sunset and when the night sky appears. In Minnesota, dawn arrives as early as before 5:30 a.m. in summer, while sunset at the solstice happens after 9 p.m.

The city allowed year-round broadcasts last year, but only between 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. — typically excluding early morning prayer and sometimes night prayer.

At a recent public hearing, Christian and Jewish leaders expressed support for extending the hours for the adhan.

Council Member Lisa Goodman, who on Thursday was observing the final day of Passover, said the Jewish call to prayer — which is generally spoken rather than broadcast — doesn’t face legal restrictions. Observers said church bells regularly toll for Christians.

“It’s something I grew up with, but not my children,” council member Jamal Osman said, adding that hearing the call to prayer from local mosques brings him joy.

Call to prayer ordinance raises First Amendment questions
Free exercise v. establishment clause at issue
https://minnesotareformer.com/2023/05/05/call-to-prayer-ordinance-raises-first-amendment-questions/

...
The new ordinance allows Muslims to play the call to prayer from the mosques around the city the customary five times a day, from pre-dawn to post-sunset. The previous noise ordinance prohibited the call to prayer — known in Arabic as the adhan — during certain early morning and late night hours.
But the widespread blessing of the new measure — which was unanimously approved by the City Council and praised by Mayor Jacob Frey — overlooks some of its legal vulnerabilities.

The litigation might be regarded as being brought in bad faith for the purposes of trolling the city and its Muslim community, but the city’s attorneys should be prepared in any case because there are substantial — and legitimate — legal issues arising from the ordinance that warrant scrutiny and cannot easily be brushed away under the “frivolous litigation” rubric.

Under the establishment clause of the First Amendment, government bodies may not give preferential treatment to religious groups or religious practices. Although there is necessarily some flexibility, the Minneapolis measure would appear to give preference to one particular religion — a form of favoritism that is not condoned under this provision.

The courts have devised a three-part test derived from a 1971 U.S. Supreme Court case — Lemon v. Kurtzman — for determining the validity of establishment clause challenges:

• Does the policy have a secular purpose?

• Does the measure advance or inhibit religion?

• Would a legal challenge involve “excessive entanglement” by the judiciary if subject to litigation?...


Let's put the shoe on the other foot, if Christians did this. and broadcast public prayer over government sanctioned loudspeakers, so that every resident within hearing were forced heard that prayer, even if they are of another faith or have no belief at all, would that be allowed?

Yeah, seems a step further than a nativity display as a hearing person cannot avoid a speaker, whereas I can avoid walking by something I don't want to see. Then again, not a problem since not allowed in general, as no public monies may be spent.

Sort of related, but private business vs. public; yesterday I had a customer come up to me and politely said they'd like to make a complaint, ok. So he is complaining about the music on the pa system. I explain I can't hear, so can he tell me what is offending him? It's 'Mexican music, they should be playing American music, patriotic even.' Okay...

I apologize that he's upset. Advise him that he can take the complaint to customer service and ask for the manager. Who is Hispanic. Or he can go to corporate online. Don't know which he chose.

In all seriousness, one must understand the demographics of businesses and location. We're about 70 miles from Mexican border. Our city is about 40% White; 40% White and other Hispanic. Balance is Black, Native American, Asian. My guess is the music will continue. ;)

fj1200
08-28-2024, 12:30 PM
Where all the freedom from religion cries?

Gunny
08-28-2024, 03:51 PM
Yeah, seems a step further than a nativity display as a hearing person cannot avoid a speaker, whereas I can avoid walking by something I don't want to see. Then again, not a problem since not allowed in general, as no public monies may be spent.

Sort of related, but private business vs. public; yesterday I had a customer come up to me and politely said they'd like to make a complaint, ok. So he is complaining about the music on the pa system. I explain I can't hear, so can he tell me what is offending him? It's 'Mexican music, they should be playing American music, patriotic even.' Okay...

I apologize that he's upset. Advise him that he can take the complaint to customer service and ask for the manager. Who is Hispanic. Or he can go to corporate online. Don't know which he chose.

In all seriousness, one must understand the demographics of businesses and location. We're about 70 miles from Mexican border. Our city is about 40% White; 40% White and other Hispanic. Balance is Black, Native American, Asian. My guess is the music will continue. ;)

Complaining about Mexican music around just gets it turned up louder:laugh: