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Gunny
07-21-2024, 07:49 PM
Have to check a few more boxes, but on most of the issues I've seen so far from him, he'd definitely be in the running for my vote. Not sure where he stands with Dem voters after going "rogue" though.

Manchin ponders running for Democratic nomination against Harris (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4785076-manchin-considers-harris-challenge/?tbref=hp)

Kathianne
07-21-2024, 09:38 PM
Have to check a few more boxes, but on most of the issues I've seen so far from him, he'd definitely be in the running for my vote. Not sure where he stands with Dem voters after going "rogue" though.

Manchin ponders running for Democratic nomination against Harris (thehill.com) (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4785076-manchin-considers-harris-challenge/?tbref=hp)

I haven't a clue to how he'd do, but agree with the vote. An alternative.

Black Diamond
07-21-2024, 10:17 PM
How does the party of identity politics skip over or go around Harris?

Kathianne
07-22-2024, 08:22 AM
Damn:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/manchin-confirms-he-wont-be-running-for-president-i-dont-need-that-in-my-life/


Sen. Manchin confirms he won’t be running for president: ‘I don’t need that in my life’By Social Links forIsabel Keane
Published July 22, 2024
Updated July 22, 2024, 8:25 a.m. ET




Sen. Joe Manchin on Monday denied that he would be challenging Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic presidential ticket, saying, “I don’t need that in my life.”


The longtime West Virginia leader, who switched from Democrat to independent this year, squashed rumors that he would be going up against Harris in November’s election during an interview on CBS Monday morning.


“I’m not running for office,” Manchin said.


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“I’m not going to be a candidate for president … I don’t need that in my life,” he said before calling for a contested primary.


The 76-year-old called for Biden to drop out of the race Sunday morning hours before Biden, 81, announced his withdrawal.


What to know about President Biden's decision to drop out of the 2024 presidential race:

President Biden announced Sunday he is dropping out of the 2024 presidential race — after weeks of prominent Democrats and donors calling on him to withdraw following his disastrous performance in the first presidential debate.


In a letter posted on X Sunday afternoon, Biden admitted that it is in the “best interest of my party and country” for him to step down as the Democratic nominee.
Biden wrote that he intends to serve out the remainder of his term and will address the country on his decision later this week.


In a follow-up X post, Biden endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris for the suddenly open Democratic nomination. “Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year,” the president wrote.


Former President Donald Trump reacted to the news by labeling Biden the “worst president in the history of our country” in a call with CNN.


The once-moderate Democrat noted he was “speaking for the middle of this country” as an independent, and that neither Republicans nor Democrats can win without the middle.


“Joe Biden came out of a very contested primary in 2020 and he rose because he was that moderate figure. He always operated in the middle. He could make a deal with people on the right and the left,” Manchin said.



Manchin argued that not holding a primary would be a mistake, but it was already “predetermined.”


“I believe it would help strengthen Kamala and her position too,” he added. “But that’s already been predetermined, so we’ll see what happens. I think it’s a mistake, but it’s one that they have made.”


While saying for a second time that he would not be running for president, Manchin noted he “could not believe” there wouldn’t be a primary election.




“Other countries do it,” he said before criticizing others for not speaking up about the lack of a primary.


“Why is everyone afraid to speak out? Why are they afraid to say ‘This system is wrong’? The Democratic Party has gone too far left. The Republican Party has Donald Trump on the far right. People are looking in the middle, where do you go?”


Manchin continued to vent his frustrations, saying, “Well, we’d like to see that. We’re not going to be able to see a vigorous, not even a three-week primary process.


“No one else is willing to speak up. They just say, ‘We’re falling behind, we’re going to get in line.’ I’m sorry, I don’t agree with that.”

Gunny
07-22-2024, 09:33 AM
Damn:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/manchin-confirms-he-wont-be-running-for-president-i-dont-need-that-in-my-life/

So much for that plan. Business as usual. Dems fall in lockstep and the right can make or break itself.

Kathianne
07-22-2024, 09:41 AM
Back to awful and more awful choices.

Gunny
07-23-2024, 10:09 AM
Back to awful and more awful choices.That seems to be the major problem. Not holding myself to it, but I think Bob Dole was the last person I voted for. Maybe GWB first time around. He was a good Governor.

Everything since has been more of a voting against as a delaying action hoping for something better to follow. STILL waiting ...

Kathianne
07-23-2024, 10:24 AM
That seems to be the major problem. Not holding myself to it, but I think Bob Dole was the last person I voted for. Maybe GWB first time around. He was a good Governor.

Everything since has been more of a voting against as a delaying action hoping for something better to follow. STILL waiting ...

I really like GW. Showing my 'social moderate' attributes, I fully got 'compassionate conservative.' 9/11 changed all his plans on domestic. Very unfortunate, he WAS a unifier.

Gunny
07-23-2024, 10:46 AM
I really like GW. Showing my 'social moderate' attributes, I fully got 'compassionate conservative.' 9/11 changed all his plans on domestic. Very unfortunate, he WAS a unifier.

Like I said, he was good governor. He had to be a unifier here to succeed, and he did. Unfortunately to took that act to DC against Harry Reid. The Dems don't want unity, regardless rhetoric. Everything they do or say is divisive and they like it that way. Drama queens keeping the people divided and so busy looking at one another no one's looking at them.

My biggest issue with him was the Iraq War. Everything said no and he did it anyway. None of the "no" is the rhetoric used by the left and naysayers. They are geopolitical, strategic and tactical incompetent parrots. Destabilizing the ME and creating the power vacuum was not worth Saddam.

fj1200
07-25-2024, 04:36 PM
How does the party of identity politics skip over or go around Harris?

Rhetorical question is rhetorical.