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Black Diamond
07-13-2024, 05:44 PM
Looks like it grazed his neck or ear

Black Diamond
07-13-2024, 05:53 PM
Friend saw live there was blood

Kathianne
07-13-2024, 05:57 PM
I saw it on TV. I think he may have been cut by being brought down by secret Service. His fist bumping and looking for his shoes bode well.

SassyLady
07-13-2024, 07:20 PM
I saw it on TV. I think he may have been cut by being brought down by secret Service. His fist bumping and looking for his shoes bode well.
He slapped at his ear before he went down. I'm pretty sure a bullet hit his ear.

Kathianne
07-13-2024, 07:21 PM
He slapped at his ear before he went down. I'm pretty sure a bullet hit his ear.
Yep, you'd see I updated after reviewing video.

NightTrain
07-13-2024, 09:27 PM
Secret Service really fucked up here. Watch the eyewitness video describing how this all went down - shooter was climbing and crawling to get into position at least 2 minutes, witness thinks up to 4 or 5 minutes - WITH A RIFLE. This is some seriously bad security.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/07/13/report-from-witness-to-shooting-at-trump-rally-guy-on-roof-n2176807


Red headed dude was yelling at nearby cops and secret service agents for several minutes and then the shooting started.

Shooter was a skinny little white guy, which fits. Can't wait to see his antifa bio, complete with the usual Trump hatred. SS counter-sniper blew his head apart, according to the witness.

Kathianne
07-13-2024, 09:42 PM
Secret Service really fucked up here. Watch the eyewitness video describing how this all went down - shooter was climbing and crawling to get into position at least 2 minutes, witness thinks up to 4 or 5 minutes - WITH A RIFLE. This is some seriously bad security.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/07/13/report-from-witness-to-shooting-at-trump-rally-guy-on-roof-n2176807


Red headed dude was yelling at nearby cops and secret service agents for several minutes and then the shooting started.

Shooter was a skinny little white guy, which fits. Can't wait to see his antifa bio, complete with the usual Trump hatred. SS counter-sniper blew his head apart, according to the witness.

Something was f'd up. The agents throwing themselves on him were magnificent. The counter snipers took the shooter out Pronto.

Reports they'd asked for more manpower, we're denied. So Something is screwed, but not those particular special agents.

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 03:44 AM
Secret Service really fucked up here. Watch the eyewitness video describing how this all went down - shooter was climbing and crawling to get into position at least 2 minutes, witness thinks up to 4 or 5 minutes - WITH A RIFLE. This is some seriously bad security.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/07/13/report-from-witness-to-shooting-at-trump-rally-guy-on-roof-n2176807


Red headed dude was yelling at nearby cops and secret service agents for several minutes and then the shooting started.

Shooter was a skinny little white guy, which fits. Can't wait to see his antifa bio, complete with the usual Trump hatred. SS counter-sniper blew his head apart, according to the witness.

Listening to folks that protect VIPs, it does sound like there were quite a few breakdowns as NT said. Obviously the shooter getting on roof. Females agents that Trump was too big for them to control. Comparing to Reagan shooting, the agents then basically carried him and tossed into car. Here Trump was able to get his head up above car door and agents heads, making him a target.

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 08:39 AM
Listening to folks that protect VIPs, it does sound like there were quite a few breakdowns as NT said. Obviously the shooter getting on roof. Females agents that Trump was too big for them to control. Comparing to Reagan shooting, the agents then basically carried him and tossed into car. Here Trump was able to get his head up above car door and agents heads, making him a target.

Related, NightTrain :

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/07/14/only-this-question-remains-concerning-trumps-assassination-attempt-n2641872

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 09:52 AM
Explosives found in Crooks car:

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-rally-incident/card/suspected-shooter-had-explosive-devices-in-his-car-sources-say-nqpDI2AqQQNtSvYtEpS9?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1


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Authorities Search for Motive After Trump Assassination Attempt
Suspect, identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, is dead following an attack that left one spectator dead.
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Suspected Shooter Had Explosive Devices in His Car, Sources Say
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Sadie Gurman


Authorities found explosive devices in the car of the man who officials say tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump, according to people briefed on the investigation.


The car, which was driven by Thomas Matthew Crooks, was parked near the Trump rally in Butler, Pa., on Saturday, the people said.


Police received multiple reports of suspicious packages around near where the shooter was, authorities said, prompting them to dispatch bomb technicians. Investigators were still working to make sure the scene was clear well into the night. They also searched Crooks’s home and spoke with his family.

revelarts
07-14-2024, 10:02 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdApgOWoAA9bx0?format=jpg&name=small

Also JFK, RFK, MLK, 911, Oklahoma City, the DC madam, Epstein...

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 10:20 AM
https://www.kaaltv.com/news/political-news/law-enforcement-bomb-making-materials-found-in-vehicle-and-home-of-trump-rally-shooting-suspect/


Law enforcement: Bomb-making materials found in vehicle and home of Trump rally shooting suspectBy JULIE CARR SMYTH, JILL COLVIN, COLLEEN LONG, MICHAEL BALSAMO, ERIC TUCKER and MICHELLE L. PRICE The Associated Press
Updated: 2 minutes ago
Published: July 14, 2024 - 5:40 AM


BUTLER, Pa. (AP) — Law enforcement officials tell The Associated Press that bomb-making materials were found inside the vehicle of the man suspected in the Trump rally shooting. There were also bomb-making materials found at his home.


The two officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.


BUTLER, Pa. (AP) — On the heels of an apparent attempt to kill him, former President Donald Trump called Sunday for unity and resilience as shocked leaders across the political divide recoiled from the shooting that left him wounded but “fine” and the gunman and a rally-goer dead.


The presumptive Republican presidential nominee said the upper part of his right ear was pierced in the shooting. His aides said he was in “great spirits” and doing well.




“I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,” he wrote on his social media site. “Much bleeding took place.”


In a subsequent post Sunday, Trump said “it was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening.”


“In this moment, it is more important than ever that we stand United, and show our True Character as Americans, remaining Strong and Determined, and not allowing Evil to Win,” his post said.


The FBI early Sunday identified the shooter as Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, as it pressed its investigation. An FBI official said investigators had not yet determined a motive.


Secret Service agents fatally shot Crooks. The gunman attacked from an elevated position outside the rally venue at a farm show in Butler, the agency said.


One attendee was killed, and two spectators were critically wounded, authorities said. All were identified as men.


Investigators believe the weapon had been purchased by Crooks’ father at least six months ago, two law enforcement officials said. Federal agents were still working to understand when and how his son obtained the gun and to gather additional information about Crooks, the officials said.


The officials were not authorized to publicly discuss details of the investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


Crooks’ political leanings were not immediately clear. Records show Crooks was registered as a Republican voter in Pennsylvania, but federal campaign finance reports also show he gave $15 to a progressive political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021, the day President Joe Biden was sworn in to office.


Authorities told reporters that Crooks was not carrying identification so they were using DNA and other methods to confirm his identity. Law enforcement recovered an AR-style rifle at the scene, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation.


Most serious assassination attempt since 1981


The attack was the most serious attempt to kill a president or presidential candidate since Ronald Reagan was shot in 1981. It drew new attention to concerns about political violence in a deeply polarized U.S. less than four months before the presidential election. And it could alter the tenor and security posture at the Republican National Convention, which begins Monday in Milwaukee.


Organizers said the convention would proceed as planned.


Trump flew to New Jersey after visiting a local Pennsylvania hospital, landing shortly after midnight at Newark Liberty International Airport. Video posted by an aide showed the former president leaving his private jet flanked by Secret Service agents and heavily armed members of the agency’s counter-assault team, an unusually visible show of force by his protective detail.


Biden, who is running against Trump, was briefed on the attack and spoke to Trump several hours after the shooting, the White House said.


“There’s no place in America for this type of violence,” the president said. “It’s sick. It’s sick.”


Biden late Saturday cut short a weekend at his beach home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, to return to Washington.


Many Republicans quickly blamed the violence on Biden and his allies, arguing that sustained attacks on Trump as a threat to democracy have created a toxic environment. They pointed in particular to a comment Biden made to donors on July 8, saying “it’s time to put Trump in the bullseye.”


Officials said the counter-assault team killed the shooter. The heavily armed tactical team travels everywhere with the president and major party nominees and is meant to confront any active threats while other Secret Service agents focus on safeguarding and evacuating the person at the center of protection.


An AP analysis of more than a dozen videos and photos from the scene of the Trump rally, as well as satellite imagery of the site, shows the shooter was able to get astonishingly close to the stage where the former president was speaking.


A video posted to social media and geolocated by the AP shows the body of a person wearing gray camouflage lying motionless on the roof of a building at AGR International, a manufacturing plant just north of the Butler Farm Show grounds where Trump’s rally was held.


The roof where the person lay was less than 150 meters (164 yards) from where Trump was speaking, a distance from which a decent marksman could reasonably hit a human-sized target. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which U.S. Army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M-16 rifle. The AR-15, like the shooter at the Trump rally had, is the semi-automatic civilian version of the military M-16.


The range from which Crooks fired and his clothing led to early speculation that the shooter had military experience. However, all the branches of the military searched their records Sunday and said in response to a query by the AP that they had no records of him serving.


Asked at a news conference whether law enforcement did not know the shooter was on the roof until he began firing, Kevin Rojek, the agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh field office, responded that “that is our assessment at this time.”


“It is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him, he added.


Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, whose department oversees the Secret Service, said officials were engaged with the Biden and Trump campaigns and “taking every possible measure to ensure their safety and security.”


A rally disrupted by gunfire


Trump was showing off a chart of border crossing numbers when the gunfire began after 6:10 p.m.


As the first pop rang out, Trump said “Oh” and raised his hand to his right ear and looked at it, before quickly crouching to the ground behind his lectern. The people in the stands behind him also crouched as screams rang through the crowd.


Someone could be heard near the microphone saying, “Get down, get down, get down, get down!” as agents rushed to the stage. They piled atop the former president to shield him with their bodies as other agents took up positions on stage to search for the threat.


Afterward, voices were heard saying, “Shooter’s down” several times, before someone asked, “Are we good to move?” and “Are we clear?” Then someone ordered, “Let’s move.”


Trump could be heard on the video saying at least twice, “Let me get my shoes,” with another voice heard saying, “I’ve got you, sir.”


Trump got to his feet moments later and could be seen reaching with his right hand toward his face, which was streaked with blood. He then pumped his fist in the air and appeared to mouth the word “fight” twice to his crowd of supporters, prompting loud cheers and then chants of “USA. USA. USA.”


His motorcade left the venue moments later. Video showed Trump turning back to the crowd and raising a fist right before he was put into a vehicle.


Witnesses heard multiple gunshots and ducked for cover


When the firing began, “everybody went to their knees or their prone position, because we all knew. Everyone becoming aware of the fact this was gunfire,” said Dave McCormick, the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania, who was sitting to Trump’s right on stage.


As he saw Trump raise his fist, McCormick said, he looked over his shoulder and noticed someone had been hit while sitting in the bleachers behind the stage.


Eventually, first responders were able to carry the wounded person out of a large crowd so he could get medical care, McCormick said.


Reporters covering the rally heard five or six shots ring out and many ducked for cover, hiding under tables. After the first two or three bangs, people in the crowd looked startled, but not panicked. An AP reporter at the scene reported the noise sounded like firecrackers at first or perhaps a car backfiring.


When it was clear the situation had been contained and Trump would not return to speak, attendees started filing out of the venue.


Police soon told the people remaining to leave the venue and Secret Service agents told reporters to get “out now. This is a live crime scene.”


Two firefighters from nearby Steubenville, Ohio, who were at the rally told the AP that they helped people who appeared hurt and heard bullets hitting broadcast speakers.


“The bullets rattled around the grandstand. One hit the speaker tower, and then chaos broke,” Chris Takach said. “We hit the ground, and then the police converged into the grandstands.”


“The first thing I heard is a couple of cracks,” Dave Sullivan said.


Sullivan said he saw one of the speakers get hit and heard bullets rattling. “We hit the deck,” he said.


Political violence again shakes America


The perils of campaigning took on a new urgency after the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in California in 1968, and again in 1972 when Arthur Bremer shot and seriously hurt George Wallace, who was running as an independent on a campaign platform that has sometimes been compared to Trump’s. That led to increased protection of candidates, even as the threats persisted, notably against Jesse Jackson in 1988 and Barack Obama in 2008.


Presidents, particularly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963, have even greater layers of security, and Trump is a rarity as both a former president and a current candidate.


North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and Ohio Sen. JD Vance, three men on Trump’s shortlist for vice president, all quickly sent out statements expressing concern for the former president, with Rubio sharing an image taken as Trump was escorted off stage with his fist in the air and a streak of blood on his face along with the words “God protected President Trump.”

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 10:22 AM
https://fox56news.com/ap-feeds/ap-political/ap-trump-is-injured-but-fine-after-apparent-assassination-attempt-leaves-rally-goer-and-gunman-dead/


AP POLITICSLaw enforcement: Bomb-making materials found in vehicle and home of Trump rally shooting suspect
by: JULIE CARR SMYTH, JILL COLVIN, COLLEEN LONG, MICHAEL BALSAMO, ERIC TUCKER and MICHELLE L. PRICE, Associated Press


Posted: Jul 14, 2024 / 11:13 AM EDT


Updated: Jul 14, 2024 / 11:13 AM EDT


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BUTLER, Pa. (AP) — Law enforcement officials tell The Associated Press that bomb-making materials were found inside the vehicle of the man suspected in the Trump rally shooting. There were also bomb-making materials found at his home.


The two officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 11:00 AM
Some specificity regarding females on SS detail. Putting the right people in the right position for effectiveness, not appearances:

https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2024/07/14/about-those-female-secret-service-agents-protecting-trump-n2176834


About Those Female Secret Service Agents Protecting TrumpBy Brandon Morse | 11:15 AM on July 14, 2024The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.



AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar
During all the insanity that happened on Saturday involving the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, there was a moment that stood out to many, and it involved the conduct of the female Secret Service agents. As one clip showed, the women protecting Trump looked jittery and slightly unsure of themselves. One of them tried to holster her side arm but kept missing the holster, eventually just placing it close to her until it was easier to do so. This resulted in many people questioning why there were female Secret Service agents in the first place.


To be clear, I also spoke out about this, but I wanted to add something very specific that I think is important. It's my honest belief that women can, in fact, be Secret Service agents, however, I think there are specific places for them in any given detail, I just don't think they should be responsible for the immediate handling of the president.




The knee-jerk reaction from this for some will be to assume I'm being sexist, but let's look at this logically.


Men are larger than women in general, they're stronger than women in general, and they're quicker than women in general. When a threat approaches, you want the largest mass possible to shield the president. If a threat tries to come at the president directly, you want the strongest and fastest fighter you can get to take the threat down. If, for any reason, the threat needs to be pinned or the president needs to be lifted bodily to safety, you want people with solid muscle mass to be able to handle the weight. Men's lung capacity is also larger, as well is their ability to pump blood through the body faster, making them tire less easily, at least in terms of short-term action.


Women are generally smaller than men, have less muscle mass, aren't as fast, and can be physically overpowered far more easily as a general rule.


When we're dealing with the leader of the free world, or even the once and likely future leader, the question about who should be at his immediate side isn't a question. It should be men strictly due to the biological advantages given to them by nature when it comes to physicality.


This doesn't mean women can't be undercover in the crowd, or among the agents around the area keeping watch. Women are very good shots so, with their eye for detail and natural slow twitch muscle fiber making them less likely to jitter or jerk while aiming, they could be very good at overwatch, just to give you one example. They could blend in with the crowd as undercover agents, as women are less likely to be suspected of being agents giving them the advantage of surprise when a suspect lets their guard down thinking they aren't a threat.


But when it comes to directly protecting the president, the male body is just better built for that specific job.


Let's put it this way. Would it be sexist of me to say that there should be women on a team's offensive line in the NFL? No, of course not. They put heavy, burly guys in that position because that specific job requires a specific body type. If you were to put a woman on the O-line and put her against a male form you'd typically see opposite her, she would be overrun very easily and possibly injured severely.


The O-line's job is to help protect one man, the quarterback so that he can enact plays necessary to move the team forward. If we're willing to understand that a specific type of body is needed in this situation to protect a man so that a sports team can win a game, then this same logic needs to be put forward when we're talking about the leader of the free world. A person so important and powerful that their death could trigger events that could literally change the world for the worse and throw it into chaos.


This isn't sexism. This isn't looking down on women. This is just a logical take given the biological facts.


Women are fully capable of doing a myriad of jobs and by all means, they should have them if they want them, but there are certain jobs where their inclusion isn't wise or logical. This specific detail of being the closest to the president when the worst goes down, is neither wise nor logical.

Black Diamond
07-14-2024, 11:05 AM
I am trying to remember exactly but i remember Dick Cheney said that on 911 the ss picked him up off his feet without asking and brought him to secure location

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 11:14 AM
I am trying to remember exactly but i remember Dick Cheney said that on 911 the ss picked him up off his feet without asking and brought him to secure location
Indeed. Same with Reagan, basically two SS agents picked him up and threw him in back of limo.Off they went, first towards WH, then realizing he was hit, onto hospital.

Kathianne
07-14-2024, 11:22 AM
https://instapundit.com/660340/

The reporter with the biggest scoop on the Trump shooting so far works for the BBC. His name is Gary O'Donoghue. He is blind. He's been totally blind since the age of 8. He walks into any press club from now on, you f*cking well stand up.


FULL INTERVIEW with a witness, talking to @BBCNews, who says he saw a man with a gun on a building roof firing shots.Donald Trump was rushed off stage during a rally in Pennsylvania after gun shots were heard.He talked to @BBCBlindGazza - more information @BBCNews






(https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1812284572241220012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812462461242487103%7Ctwgr% 5E77bd34f5c6fe7f83b4153d5425bad60da6cbbf99%7Ctwcon %5Es4_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F660340%2F)


https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1812283906105692160/pu/img/1y2zqIVPQ_9scN1f.jpg (https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1812284572241220012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812462461242487103%7Ctwgr% 5E77bd34f5c6fe7f83b4153d5425bad60da6cbbf99%7Ctwcon %5Es4_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F660340%2F)

Appears US media is also blind. They got the stuffing kicked out of them by the BBC and Twitter.

5:21 AM · Jul 14, 2024 (https://twitter.com/hollyanndoan/status/1812462461242487103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1812462461242487103%7Ctwgr% 5E77bd34f5c6fe7f83b4153d5425bad60da6cbbf99%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F660340%2F)