Ww3?

[revelarts]

Serbia's President Vucic gives a dark outlook -All signs point to a major war in Europe.
“We are heading for a major catastrophe and it seems that the train has already left the station and can no longer be stopped. No one in the West is talking about peace anymore - only more war. The West thinks it can win and take out Russia. I think the West is wrong. Both sides now believe it is existential for them, so I don't think they will find a solution other than war and everything, everything is at stake. In Europe, the leaders act as the big heroes, but they are not honest and do not tell their citizens that they will all pay a big price if it comes to war.”
"the train has left the station"

"...Everybody's speaking only about war, no ones is even speaking about peace.... no one is even trying..."
" who's ready to loose 1 million, 3 million ,10 million..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MIaM3765T0


Anyone have a better solution?

[Black Diamond]

Well if putin attacks Miami from cuba

[Kathianne]

I think whenever it starts there will be Europe, Asia, and the Middle East at same time. Russia, China, and Iran. We're not prepared for one front, much less three.

[Black Diamond]

I think whenever it starts there will be Europe, Asia, and the Middle East at same time. Russia, China, and Iran. We're not prepared for one front, much less three.

Why does it happen all at once? Did with the first two world wars too.

[Kathianne]

Why does it happen all at once? Did with the first two world wars too.

Alliances formed in run up. Putin in NK this weekend. Meanwhile, Joe screws our natural allies over and over.

[revelarts]

Alliances formed in run up. Putin in NK this weekend. Meanwhile, Joe screws our natural allies over and over.

So maybe it's time to seriously talk about peace in Ukraine?
or should they continue to fight to last Ukrainian? last European? Last Russian?

[Kathianne]

So maybe it's time to seriously talk about peace in Ukraine?
or should they continue to fight to last Ukrainian? last European? Last Russian?

We disagree, you know that. I'm not in the camp to wait to be last one standing-hopefully.

[Black Diamond]

So maybe it's time to seriously talk about peace in Ukraine?
or should they continue to fight to last Ukrainian? last European? Last Russian?

To the last Ukrainian is quite likely. If putin ends up doing more than drills in cuba well that would change things

[fj1200]

Russia seems to have trouble closing the deal on invading a country on their own border why would we think that they can do better in Cuba or anywhere else in the world. They're like the MTG of the global community; causing chaos but solving nothing except destroying their own mission/message. Every time Russia goes to war, by their design or not, they lose another reproductive generation which only serves to further their population decline.

[Kathianne]

Russia seems to have trouble closing the deal on invading a country on their own border why would we think that they can do better in Cuba or anywhere else in the world. They're like the MTG of the global community; causing chaos but solving nothing except destroying their own mission/message. Every time Russia goes to war, by their design or not, they lose another reproductive generation which only serves to further their population decline.
Agreed. The reason that Russia has decided on China, Iran, Turkey, NK...

[fj1200]

Agreed. The reason that Russia has decided on China, Iran, Turkey, NK...

Yeah, just seems more paper than practical though. Famous last words... :eek:

[Gunny]

So maybe it's time to seriously talk about peace in Ukraine?
or should they continue to fight to last Ukrainian? last European? Last Russian?:rolleyes:

[Gunny]

We disagree, you know that. I'm not in the camp to wait to be last one standing-hopefully.We most certainly wouldn't win THAT war. At best, on paper, the US can stalemate the World in a conventional war. We don't have the leaders nor the followers to get even close to that. Not to mention nukes will have long since flown before certain nations give up.

The war is coming, despite all those who wish to close their eyes and tap the heels of their ruby red slippers and say no. How to survive it is the question. IMO, luck plays here more than skill, although skill increases luck.

[Gunny]

To the last Ukrainian is quite likely. If putin ends up doing more than drills in cuba well that would change things

There is enough firepower in South Florida to sink Cuba. It would cease to exist as anything more than a rock in the water. Every bit of military from Miami to Key West is focused on Cuba. Used to live there. On base(s) :)

[Gunny]

Agreed. The reason that Russia has decided on China, Iran, Turkey, NK...I doubt, but could be wrong, Turkey will roll over to the other side. Too much self-interest. As usual. They only want to play if there's something in it for Turkey.

Be interesting to see it drop out of NATO and declare itself neutral.

[gabosaurus]

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[Black Diamond]

There is enough firepower in South Florida to sink Cuba. It would cease to exist as anything more than a rock in the water. Every bit of military from Miami to Key West is focused on Cuba. Used to live there. On base(s) :)

I have seen the key west base. :saluting2:

I am not thinking putin will invade Florida. But i was wondering about some kind of a rocket attack.

[Kathianne]

Yeah, just seems more paper than practical though. Famous last words... :eek:

Russia has been using both Chinese and Iran missiles and drones. I'm unsure about Turkey, but look for 'em.

[Gunny]

I have seen the key west base. :saluting2:

I am not thinking putin will invade Florida. But i was wondering about some kind of a rocket attack.Probably a better missile defense system in SoFL than most of the US.

[Black Diamond]

Probably a better missile defense system in SoFL than most of the US.

Can you talk about the range of the missiles they may have? I picked Miami for its proximity to Cuba.and i mean conventional as opposed to nukes

[Gunny]

Can you talk about the range of the missiles they may have? I picked Miami for its proximity to Cuba.and i mean conventional as opposed to nukes



Miami/Homestead is and was not the primary threat to Cuba. And since I am unsure, that's all I can say.

[Black Diamond]

Miami/Homestead is and was not the primary threat to Cuba. And since I am unsure, that's all I can say.

I remember homestead and Florida city too. And i read ya loud and clear.