Wishful denial about Putin’s regime

[Gunny]

A lot of that wishful thinking BS going around these days.

Wishful denial about Putin’s regime | The Hill (https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4660518-wishful-denial-about-putins-regime/)

[revelarts]

for context

Ukraine (Russian-occupied territory in light green)

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https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/04/30/what_10_years_of_us_meddling_in_ukraine_have_wroug ht_spoiler_alert_it_wasnt_democracy_1027411.html

[Gunny]

for context

Ukraine (Russian-occupied territory in light green)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Europe-Ukraine_%28disputed_territory%29.svg/713px-Europe-Ukraine_%28disputed_territory%29.svg.png?202307071 94336

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/04/30/what_10_years_of_us_meddling_in_ukraine_have_wroug ht_spoiler_alert_it_wasnt_democracy_1027411.htmlCo ntext? What if that was your yard?

[revelarts]

Context? What if that was your yard?
What if I was talking about having NATO weapons in my yard pointed at my neighbors yard, After i said I wouldn't.
And if I already have bio-weapons labs in my yard... for agriculture.
And I've killed some of my neighbors friends in that part of the yard that they've taken.
What if my yard is known as being the shadiest corrupt yard in the neighborhood.
What if I had NAZIs in my yard as some body guards.


Personally I wouldn't expect that the rich "good guys" to take billions of dollars from their family and give it to me to fight my neighbor over my yard.

[SassyLady]

What if I was talking about having NATO weapons in my yard pointed at my neighbors yard, After i said I wouldn't.
And if I already have bio-weapons labs in my yard... for agriculture.
And I've killed some of my neighbors friends in that part of the yard that they've taken.
What if my yard is known as being the shadiest corrupt yard in the neighborhood.
What if I had NAZIs in my yard as some body guards.


Personally I wouldn't expect that the rich "good guys" to take me billions of dollars from their family and give it to me to fight my neighbor over my yard.
Well? They would do it if you were giving them a kickback.

[Gunny]

What if I was talking about having NATO weapons in my yard pointed at my neighbors yard, After i said I wouldn't.
And if I already have bio-weapons labs in my yard... for agriculture.
And I've killed some of my neighbors friends in that part of the yard that they've taken.
What if my yard is known as being the shadiest corrupt yard in the neighborhood.
What if I had NAZIs in my yard as some body guards.


Personally I wouldn't expect that the rich "good guys" to take billions of dollars from their family and give it to me to fight my neighbor over my yard.Same old debunked lines.

The fallacy of your argument is that Ukraine is Russia's yard. It is not. The war is not in Russia. It's in Ukraine. Can't turn that around any way you try.

Again context, there were no NATO weapons in Ukraine pointed at Russia until AFTER PUTIN INVADED. Up to that point in time, Ukraine's weapons were leftover Soviet era stuff.

If your neighbors in MY yard illegally occupying my territory and they get killed, that's on them.

Who put those bio labs in Ukraine? Hint: it was neither Ukraine nor Western countries. The West stepped in to ensure control after the Soviets left. You have knowledge the rest of the World doesn't that they are weaponized? Oops.

The Nazi thing is *yawn*. Russian propaganda. Which countries don't have Nazi's? The ones that outlaw it? How does that work with your constant arguing about censorship/free speech? I'm with you though. We should get rid of nazis and pro-Hamas terrorist sympathizers. Democrats too, since you're willing to go all totalitarian. Remember that slippery slope you're always talking ...:smoke:

You need a new argument. One based on truth, fact and logic.