revelarts
11-22-2023, 10:06 AM
"trans" people need prayer & loving concern as human beings but not this.
Pope Francis Hosts Transgender Women for Vatican Luncheon
https://www.newwaysministry.org/2023/11/22/pope-francis-hosts-transgender-women-for-vatican-luncheon/
For this group of trans women, the pope and his message of inclusivity are a welcome change
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-transgender-lgbtq-b3d67868504ba701cce09da9ecc94de0
"TORVAIANICA, Italy (AP) — Pope Francis’ recent gesture of welcome for transgender Catholics has resonated strongly in this working class, seaside town south of Rome, where a community of trans women has found help and hope through a remarkable relationship with the pontiff forged during the darkest times of the pandemic.
Thanks to the local parish priest, these women now make monthly visits to Francis’ Wednesday general audiences, where they are given VIP seats. ...
...For the marginalized trans community of Torvaianica, it was just the latest gesture of inclusion from a pope who has made reaching out to the LGBTQ+ community a hallmark of his papacy, in word and deed.
“Before, the church was closed to us. They didn’t see us as normal people, they saw us as the devil,” said Andrea Paola Torres Lopez, a Colombian transgender woman known as Consuelo, whose kitchen is decorated with pictures of Jesus. “Then Pope Francis arrived and the doors of the church opened for us.”
Francis’ latest initiative was a document from the Vatican’s doctrine office asserting that, under some circumstances, transgender people can be baptized and can serve as godparents and witnesses in weddings. It followed another recent statement from the pope himself that suggested same-sex couples could receive church blessings.
In both cases, the new pronouncements reversed the absolute bans on transgender people serving as godparents issued by the Vatican doctrine office in 2015, and on same-sex blessings announced in 2021.
Prominent LGBTQ+ organizations have welcomed Francis’ message of inclusivity, given gay and transgender people have long felt ostracized and discriminated against by a church that officially teaches that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.”
Starting from his famous “Who am I to judge” comment in 2013 about a purportedly gay priest, to his assertion in January that “being homosexual is not a crime,” Francis has evolved his position to increasingly make clear that everyone — “todos, todos, todos” — is a child of God, is loved by God and welcome in the church.
That judgment-free position is not necessarily shared by the rest of the Catholic Church. The recent Vatican gathering of bishops and laypeople, known as a synod, backed off language explicitly calling for welcoming LGBTQ+ Catholics. Conservative Catholics, including cardinals, have strongly questioned his approach...."
Many Catholics are against this, rightly so, but WTH?
the "Head of the Church"? sorry no.
no offense to any individual catholics but this is one of the reasons that I could not be a catholic.
the authority given to one sinful human being is out of place. Jesus is the only head of the church.
IMO, Everyone else is, at best, a servant and when they are out of line with the true head they no longer represent Christ. And should be removed from any serious church offices or the people should leave.
Christians are supposed to follow Christ.
The authority granted by the catholic hierarchy that allows anyone in the chair to make up rules as they go along is ridiculous.
Even in the U.S. gov't a president only get 4-8 years to piss on the constitution.
Popes are elected for life. And can deny scripture and the Jesus for decades while claiming their pronouncements come from God.
Thank God that scriptures are in nearly every language now so people can read it for themselves.
And people can go to God through the one mediator, Jesus Christ.
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
1 Timothy 2:5
Pope Francis Hosts Transgender Women for Vatican Luncheon
https://www.newwaysministry.org/2023/11/22/pope-francis-hosts-transgender-women-for-vatican-luncheon/
For this group of trans women, the pope and his message of inclusivity are a welcome change
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-transgender-lgbtq-b3d67868504ba701cce09da9ecc94de0
"TORVAIANICA, Italy (AP) — Pope Francis’ recent gesture of welcome for transgender Catholics has resonated strongly in this working class, seaside town south of Rome, where a community of trans women has found help and hope through a remarkable relationship with the pontiff forged during the darkest times of the pandemic.
Thanks to the local parish priest, these women now make monthly visits to Francis’ Wednesday general audiences, where they are given VIP seats. ...
...For the marginalized trans community of Torvaianica, it was just the latest gesture of inclusion from a pope who has made reaching out to the LGBTQ+ community a hallmark of his papacy, in word and deed.
“Before, the church was closed to us. They didn’t see us as normal people, they saw us as the devil,” said Andrea Paola Torres Lopez, a Colombian transgender woman known as Consuelo, whose kitchen is decorated with pictures of Jesus. “Then Pope Francis arrived and the doors of the church opened for us.”
Francis’ latest initiative was a document from the Vatican’s doctrine office asserting that, under some circumstances, transgender people can be baptized and can serve as godparents and witnesses in weddings. It followed another recent statement from the pope himself that suggested same-sex couples could receive church blessings.
In both cases, the new pronouncements reversed the absolute bans on transgender people serving as godparents issued by the Vatican doctrine office in 2015, and on same-sex blessings announced in 2021.
Prominent LGBTQ+ organizations have welcomed Francis’ message of inclusivity, given gay and transgender people have long felt ostracized and discriminated against by a church that officially teaches that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.”
Starting from his famous “Who am I to judge” comment in 2013 about a purportedly gay priest, to his assertion in January that “being homosexual is not a crime,” Francis has evolved his position to increasingly make clear that everyone — “todos, todos, todos” — is a child of God, is loved by God and welcome in the church.
That judgment-free position is not necessarily shared by the rest of the Catholic Church. The recent Vatican gathering of bishops and laypeople, known as a synod, backed off language explicitly calling for welcoming LGBTQ+ Catholics. Conservative Catholics, including cardinals, have strongly questioned his approach...."
Many Catholics are against this, rightly so, but WTH?
the "Head of the Church"? sorry no.
no offense to any individual catholics but this is one of the reasons that I could not be a catholic.
the authority given to one sinful human being is out of place. Jesus is the only head of the church.
IMO, Everyone else is, at best, a servant and when they are out of line with the true head they no longer represent Christ. And should be removed from any serious church offices or the people should leave.
Christians are supposed to follow Christ.
The authority granted by the catholic hierarchy that allows anyone in the chair to make up rules as they go along is ridiculous.
Even in the U.S. gov't a president only get 4-8 years to piss on the constitution.
Popes are elected for life. And can deny scripture and the Jesus for decades while claiming their pronouncements come from God.
Thank God that scriptures are in nearly every language now so people can read it for themselves.
And people can go to God through the one mediator, Jesus Christ.
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
1 Timothy 2:5