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Kathianne
08-25-2023, 10:10 AM
Brics is gaining steam, being pushed as an answer to G7, but largest goal would be China influence on developing countries, along with devaluing the dollar. The devolving China economy might be a help to US right now:

https://www.wsj.com/world/iran-saudi-arabia-others-invited-to-join-brics-group-239736d8?st=0xoy27erzqgghbk&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


Iran, Saudi Arabia, Others Invited to Join Brics GroupExpansion is a victory for Russia and China who want to bolster the bloc against competition from the West
By
Alexandra Wexler
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Updated Aug. 24, 2023 6:20 am ET




JOHANNESBURG—The Brics group of emerging nations has invited six additional countries to join the bloc in an effort to grow its global importance and ability to challenge the West on key political and economic issues.


Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Argentina, Iran, Ethiopia and the United Arab Emirates have been invited to join Brics, which currently comprises Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, the bloc’s leaders said on Thursday, the final day of a summit in Johannesburg.


The expansion of Brics is a victory for Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who had pushed to grow the bloc in the face of intensifying geopolitical and economic competition with the West. They argued that a bigger club would give the developing world a stronger voice that is more equal to its size.


“Let us work together to write a new chapter of emerging-market countries… working together for development,” Xi said in translated remarks at a news conference at the end of the summit.

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WORLDA Bank China Built to Challenge the Dollar Now Needs the Dollar
How Russia’s war in Ukraine paralyzed the Brics’s New Development Bank
By
Alexander Saeed
Lingling Wei
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June 16, 2023 7:00 am ET

A development bank China launched with its fellow Brics countries was supposed to reshape international finance. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine now risks turning it into a zombie bank.


Eight years after Chinese leader Xi Jinping and his counterparts from Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa established the New Development Bank, with headquarters in a swanky Shanghai skyscraper, it has all but stopped making new loans and is having trouble raising dollar funds to repay its debts, according to an examination of its finances and interviews with bankers and others familiar with the matter.


The New Development Bank is the lesser-known of two China-based multilateral lenders. Its larger cousin, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, this week landed in the middle of a public-relations crisis after a disgruntled executive accused it of being controlled by members of China’s Communist Party.


Trouble at both banks, as well as at China’s giant Belt and Road infrastructure push, which has seen China spend $1 trillion to expand its influence across Asia, Africa and Latin America, spotlights growing difficulties for Beijing’s strategy to rearrange an international order it considers biased in favor of the West.


Both the AIIB and the New Development Bank were set up in large part to reduce developing countries’ dependence on dollar-based funding—alternatives to the International Monetary Fund that would help finance development in some of the world’s fastest-growing economies.


The AIIB operates on a much larger scale than the New Development Bank, counting many Western countries such as the U.K. and Canada among its more than 100 members. The bank found itself in a political firestorm this week after its Canadian communications chief resigned and accused the bank’s management of being “dominated by the Communist Party,” allegations that the AIIB called baseless. Nonetheless, Canada’s government said it would halt all activity with the bank while it reviews the allegations, and the bank said it would conduct an internal review.


Meanwhile, the Brics’s development bank is fighting for its very survival, threatened by its own reliance on the U.S. currency.

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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-25-2023, 10:40 AM
China is making moves because it has unrest at home and a serious currency problem TOO!!!
We and the rest of the world just do not know how bad it is there and exactly how bad China's two big problems are!
A sad and serious thing is wars are often fought to distract from problems at home.
We must remember China also has a population problem to go along with the other two big ones.
We damn sure do not need Biden in office if China makes a military move!---:saluting2:---Tyr

Edit.
Also, China has another problem, It because of its decades old child policy has a massive shortage of women for its massive male population to marry.
That causes a problem too. --Tyr

Gunny
08-25-2023, 06:03 PM
Brics is gaining steam, being pushed as an answer to G7, but largest goal would be China influence on developing countries, along with devaluing the dollar. The devolving China economy might be a help to US right now:

https://www.wsj.com/world/iran-saudi-arabia-others-invited-to-join-brics-group-239736d8?st=0xoy27erzqgghbk&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink




https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-bank-china-backed-to-challenge-the-dollar-now-needs-the-dollar-d9dc27ee?st=ehls2bp1ezfhiyn&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Not all that up on BRICS other than every other "news story" on my phone is some alarmist BRICS crap. The one thing I have noticed is China may be in over its head, but what exactly is Brazil up to? Brazil appears to be letting China get all the attention while Brazil is the one quietly pushing for everything in the background.

Kathianne
08-26-2023, 12:35 PM
Visuals, me love visuals:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-brics-expansion-4-charts

fj1200
08-26-2023, 01:25 PM
These are not strong economies and not big on the principles of free markets.

Kathianne
08-26-2023, 01:27 PM
These are not strong economies and not big on the principles of free markets.

I would say the opposite of free markets, no? More like some bad actors, joining forces with some aspiring wannabees, especially with oil. China will try to keep up the giving of money to make lessers indebted.

fj1200
08-26-2023, 01:29 PM
I would say the opposite of free markets, no? More like some bad actors, joining forces with some aspiring wannabees, especially with oil. China will try to keep up the giving of money to make lessers indebted.

Correct. China's motives are always in doubt but thinking that China and India have the same objectives here? Not likely.

Kathianne
08-26-2023, 01:34 PM
Correct. China's motives are always in doubt but thinking that China and India have the same objectives here? Not likely.

Yeah, the Sauds too. Seems like the marriage from hell. :laugh: