If Not Trump V Biden, Then Who?

[Kathianne]

Hope Hanson is right:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/28/the_wild_2024_race_149556.html


The Wild 2024 RaceBy Victor Davis HansonJuly 28, 2023

Current polls, pundits, and politicos insist that the 2024 race is a sure rematch between former President Donald Trump and incumbent President Joe Biden.


It may well turn out that way.


But in past election cycles, summer polls 15 months before the general election usually did not mean much.


In December 2003, the CBS poll headline blared, "Dean pulls away in Dem race." Howard Dean would eventually be clobbered by nominee John Kerry.


In the Gallup Poll of late June 2007, Hillary Clinton still continued to enjoy her wide lead in the Democratic primary over eventual nominee and elected president Barack Obama.


On the Republican side, Gallup noted of its summer 2007 polls that, "There has been little serious threat to the frontrunner, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani" -- who bombed out early in the race.


About this time in 2015, Jeb Bush was leading Trump in the Republican primary. Or as CNN characterized their summer poll, "He (Bush) holds a significant lead over the second-place candidate Trump."


By January 2016, the favorite, can-do Wisconsin governor Scott Walker was leading all candidates by a substantial margin as they headed for the Iowa caucuses.


There are lots of reasons to believe that 2024 may prove to be the most volatile race in recent memory.


Not since 1912 -- when third-party ex-president Theodore Roosevelt challenged incumbent President William Howard Taft in a three-way race with Woodrow Wilson -- have two presidents run against each other.


Both, remember, lost that year to the far less experienced Wilson.

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[revelarts]

Heck Ron Paul is older than Biden and is still in better shape.
Sadly i think most Rs 'still' aren't ready for him.

And as far as I know no one running that's close to him in principals
/policy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5QixMGtKfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImyFyZJ0BNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyqqhXpFpOg

[Gunny]

Hope Hanson is right:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/28/the_wild_2024_race_149556.htmlTrump's trial date is set for May. If anything is actually done about Biden, it'll be about the same time.

That leaves the Ds and Rs without their frontrunners sometime late summer -early fall with Nov being the election.

An established 3rd person could capitalize on that. I'm not much interested in anyone the Ds and Rs rush into place last minute. Let me rephrase: I'm not interested in the assclown the Dems will try to foist on us. We already got how low they'll go in 2020:rolleyes: It would depend on who the Republican is.

[SassyLady]

RFK v DeSantis

There is a rumor out there that Michelle Obama's name is being thrown out there. Some say she'll be appointed by Newsome to replace Feinstein and then as a senator will be asked by Dems to run.

Especially now that it's being reported Feinstein had to be prompted how she's supposed to vote. Time to get her to retire.

[Mr. P]

DeSantis v Newsom

That's my guess at this time. Way to early to say though.

[Gunny]

DeSantis v Newsom

That's my guess at this time. Way to early to say though.

US citizens should be VERY afraid of Newsome. He has destroyed California. I've been in 3rd World countries in better shape. He's a fascist, do as I say not as I do dictator. In no way, shape nor form should the threat he presents to what's left of democracy in this Nation be downplayed nor ignored. He can't accidentally walk backward into the WH as Biden has done. We can't take 4 years of him, if it doesn't start an actual war.

Too early to say on DeSantis. He's not going to appeal to swing voters, IMO.