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Kathianne
06-27-2023, 04:47 PM
You're not alone:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-plans-to-lay-off-at-least-1-000-contract-salaried-workers-bf4f5ef3?mod=hp_lead_pos3


Ford Plans to Lay Off at Least 1,000 Contract and Salaried WorkersCuts expected to significantly affect engineers in North America
By
Nora Eckert
Updated June 27, 2023 11:36 am ET

Ford Motor F 2.13%increase; green up pointing triangle plans to lay off at least 1,000 salaried employees and contract workers in North America, people familiar with the matter said, the automaker’s latest effort to defray the heavy cost of investing in electric cars.

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Many automakers are focused on areas where they can cut costs to offset their heavy investments in EV development. In recent months, General Motors and Jeep-maker Stellantis both began offering buyouts, with executives emphasizing the need to control costs as they pour more money into electric and digital technology. Stellantis’s buyout offers also included unionized workers at its U.S. factories.

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Ford has said it expects to lose $3 billion in operating profit on its EVs business this year. While executives at the automaker have said profits from its gas-engine operations would sustain the business in the midst of these losses, some analysts have questioned whether the automaker would require additional funding.


As Ford executives have focused on cost-cutting measures across the organization, including reducing its workforce, the automaker has sought out government financing for the expansion of its battery-manufacturing operations.


Last week, the Energy Department said it would loan a Ford joint venture $9.2 billion to support production of EV batteries across three factories in the U.S. South, the largest commitment in the loan program’s office history. The billion-dollar infusion is meant to bolster Ford’s joint venture with Korean battery-maker SK On, covering two battery plants in Kentucky and one in Tennessee.

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Not just Ford:

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/lordstown-news/lordstown-motors-files-for-bankruptcy-sues-foxconn-will-sell-endurance-vehicle/


LORDSTOWN, Ohio (WKBN) – Lordstown Motors officially filed for bankruptcy and sued Foxconn early Tuesday morning after a tumultuous few months in the stock market as its deal with Foxconn fell apart.

The official filing for bankruptcy was filed in Delaware on Tuesday.


The filing estimates Lordstown EV Corporation has 5,001 to 10,000 creditors and estimates $100,000,001 to $500 million in assets and liabilities.


Lordstown Motors CEO Edward Hightower filed the paperwork.


The bankruptcy documents include “first-day” motions to continue operations at LMC and uphold their responsibilities to stakeholders, according to a press release from Lordstown Motors.


The press release also says Lordstown is in the process of trying to sell the Endurance vehicle and related assets.


“We remain confident that an orderly, expedited sale process will maximize value for our stakeholders and enable the talent and technology behind the Endurance to find new and supportive ownership. While in Chapter 11, Lordstown will continue to support our customers. We are grateful for the Lordstown team for their commitment and dedication to our vision and to our customers, suppliers and business partners for believing in the Endurance and in the EV evolution.”


EDWARD HIGHTOWER, LORDSTOWN MOTORS CEO
As part of the litigation, Lordstown filed a lawsuit against the Hon Hai Technology Group and its affiliates, including Foxconn.

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https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/VOLKSWAGEN-AG-436737/news/Works-council-VW-curbs-production-of-e-cars-in-Emden-44197151/


EMDEN (dpa-AFX) - Volkswagen is temporarily cutting back production of e-cars at its Emden plant due to flagging sales, according to the works council. In the next two weeks until the plant vacations, the late shift in the production of the ID.4 compact SUV and the first models of the new ID.7 electric sedan will be canceled, works council head Manfred Wulff said in response to a question, confirming a report in the "Nordwest-Zeitung" newspaper. A VW spokeswoman in Emden told the paper, "We are confident that capacity utilization at the plant will increase again with the market launch of the ID.7 at the end of the year."

The workforce was informed of this on Monday, the works council said. According to the statement, while production of combustion models, such as the Passat, will continue unchanged, the three-week plant vacation for employees in the E-segment is also to be extended by one week. In addition, around 300 of the 1,500 temporary workers currently employed in Emden are not to be kept on from August.


According to the works council, the reason for the production cuts is flagging sales of e-vehicles. "We are noticing customer reticence quite vehemently in the electric world," Wulff said. Uncertainty among customers is high, he said. Demand is nearly 30 percent below the originally planned production figures, he said. Among VW's Emden workforce, disillusionment reigned in the face of news of the shortened shifts, Wulff said. (Means: 'No one wants these cars.)


According to the works council, the original plan at the Emden VW site was to start a third production shift for the E-models in the fall. Now the official start of production of the ID.7 in Emden, scheduled for July, will be delayed, Wulff said. Currently, only a few models are being produced in advance./len/DP/nas

Oh, unintended consequences on tires:

https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/tire-knowledge/electric-vehicle-tires.html

When batteries are so heavy and new tires have to be changed; roads, bridges, etc., gonna cost:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/27/time-to-slam-the-brakes-on-the-ev-calamity/


Time to slam the brakes on the electric vehicle calamityOur economically ruinous approach to Net Zero, combined with the failure to fix our decrepit road network, is a national embarrassment


MATTHEW LYNN
27 June 2023 • 1:30pm

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News that EVs damage roads twice as much as their petrol equivalents as the pothole crisis grows on Britain’s roads brings together two great failings of the British state.


First, potholes are now an epidemic on our decrepit road network. The tarmac is littered with hazardous bumps and craters. Tyres are being worn much more quickly as a result, creating new hazards: worn and defective tyres are among the leading causes of accidents on UK roads. And even if there is no collision, or even damage to the vehicle, journeys are punctured by stomach churning bumps and jolts. The state of our country roads are not what you would expect in a developed nation.


Second, our obsession with centrally planned decarbonisation is causing all sorts of unintended consequences. Electric vehicles put a massive stress on roads: last month it was reported that their sheer weight could sink our bridges. The batteries are heavy, with many popular models weighing more than two tonnes, and while that might be fine for motorways built for big lorries, on smaller roads it has put huge strain on surfaces of many highways. They are literally buckling under the pressure. What’s more, EVs are not currently charged a fuel duty on the electricity used to recharge them. Drivers of electric cars will have to start paying vehicle excise duty from 2025, bringing them in line with petrol and diesel vehicles.


It is going to get much worse. There are currently 900,000 electric cars on the road. But with sales of new petrol and diesel cars banned from 2030 that number is going to rise and rise. The stress on our roads will increase at least five fold over the next few years as the switch to electric accelerates.

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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-27-2023, 06:01 PM
You're not alone:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-plans-to-lay-off-at-least-1-000-contract-salaried-workers-bf4f5ef3?mod=hp_lead_pos3



Not just Ford:

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/lordstown-news/lordstown-motors-files-for-bankruptcy-sues-foxconn-will-sell-endurance-vehicle/



https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/VOLKSWAGEN-AG-436737/news/Works-council-VW-curbs-production-of-e-cars-in-Emden-44197151/



Oh, unintended consequences on tires:

https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/tire-knowledge/electric-vehicle-tires.html

When batteries are so heavy and new tires have to be changed; roads, bridges, etc., gonna cost:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/27/time-to-slam-the-brakes-on-the-ev-calamity/

I do not plan on ever buying an electric vehicle. I am 69 years old now , if I make 85 that is just 16 years.
In fifteen years they will not have electric perfected. So it will be gas for me. --Tyr

Black Diamond
06-27-2023, 11:17 PM
How long will it be before we have no choice from a new car standpoint?

Kathianne
06-28-2023, 02:07 AM
How long will it be before we have no choice from a new car standpoint?
A couple years ago, I traded in my 2004 Mazda for a 2019 Mazda. ICE...

If I'm lucky, 20 years should do me. ;)

Gunny
06-28-2023, 06:18 PM
A couple years ago, I traded in my 2004 Mazda for a 2019 Mazda. ICE...

If I'm lucky, 20 years should do me. ;)I hear ya. I'm looking at getting another gas guzzler before it's too late.

This is another one of those things where it's stupid, but too much money involved for those concerned to back off. They've created entire industries over nothing.

Note: everything they've thrown on the table at taxpayer expense has been about stopping a natural occurrence. Haven't seen a single word addressing the point that if fact, what should we be doing to address adapting to the change? Because all the previously mentioned investments are in stopping the universe, not figuring out how to survive it.

Kathianne
06-29-2023, 04:50 PM
When administration is on ropes with one issue, 'when it rains, it pours...'

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/from-powerful-unions-to-everyday-voters-bidens-gas-powered-car-purge-prompts-backlash/


BIDEN ADMINISTRATIONFrom Powerful Unions to Everyday Voters, Biden's Gas-Powered Car Purge Prompts Backlash
Support for phasing out conventional vehicles down 7 points in two years Collin Anderson
June 29, 2023

President Joe Biden's plan to phase out gas-powered vehicles is facing intense backlash from a surprising array of groups, including a historically liberal labor union, a powerful trade group, and moderate Democratic voters.


Biden in April unveiled new environmental regulations that effectively force U.S. automakers to ensure two-thirds of the vehicles they sell are electric by 2032, and the United Auto Workers—a longtime force in Democratic politics that endorsed Biden in 2020—is not happy. The union's new president, Shawn Fain, is concerned that the push will prompt job loss in the auto industry, as electric vehicles require fewer parts and thus fewer workers to build. The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade group that represents the world's top automakers, agrees with the union—its leaders in comments sent to Biden's Environmental Protection Agency said the regulations are "neither reasonable nor achievable" and would prompt huge price hikes.


A lack of support from the same groups that helped send Biden to the White House could bring major challenges to the Democrat's reelection campaign. The United Auto Workers in 2020 endorsed Biden and spent millions of dollars to elect Democrats. Roughly a third of the union's rank-and-file members, however, voted for former president Donald Trump over Biden, and there's good reason to believe a wide array of United Auto Workers disapprove of the administration's electric vehicle rule.


That's because nearly 60 percent of Americans oppose phasing out the production of gas-powered cars and trucks, according to a Pew Research Center poll published Wednesday. Just 40 percent of the public, meanwhile, supports such a policy—that figure was 7 percentage points higher two years ago. Moderate and conservative Democrats are also split on the issue, with just 53 percent favoring a gas-powered vehicle purge, compared with 76 percent of liberals. In general, only 21 percent of Americans say they would feel "excited" if gas-powered vehicles were phased out, while 45 percent say they would feel "upset."


For the United Auto Workers, Biden's "electric vehicle transition" is so troubling that the union is holding off on endorsing the Democrat's reelection bid, a stunning development given its status as a staunch Democratic Party ally.


"The EV transition is at serious risk of becoming a race to the bottom," Fain, the union's president, wrote in a recent memo to members. "We want to see national leadership have our backs on this before we make any commitments." Fain also condemned Biden's $9.2 billion electric vehicle battery loan to Ford, asking, "Why is Joe Biden's administration facilitating this corporate greed with taxpayer money?"


The White House did not return a request for comment.


This is not the first time the union has challenged Biden's mission to greenify the auto industry. In April, the administration planned to unveil its new vehicle regulations alongside United Auto Workers allies in Detroit, where the union is headquartered. Once the union learned of the policy's details, however, they balked at supporting the regulations publicly. As a result, Biden's Environmental Protection Agency had to move the announcement to Washington, D.C., a location change it initially blamed on "scheduling conflicts." The agency's administrator, Michael Regan, went on to acknowledge that union leadership "expressed anxiety" over the regulations.


"We've dealt with the loss of jobs before through technology, but when you talk about the speed of this, it's hard to fathom that we won't lose jobs," United Auto Workers Local 600 vice president Mark DePaoli said at the time.


Should the Biden administration reverse course on its plans to force Americans to adopt electric vehicles, it will undoubtedly struggle to achieve its green energy goals. Just 19 percent of Americans say they're "very" or "extremely" likely to purchase an electric vehicle when they need a new car, while nearly half say they're unlikely to do so, according to an Associated Press poll published in April. The high cost of electric vehicles is the main deterrent—the vehicles, on average, cost at least $10,000 more than their gas-powered counterparts.

fj1200
06-29-2023, 04:55 PM
The pansy Dems should just run on jacking up the gas tax and cutting back on federal highway expansion funds. Nothing like burying their hopes and dreams in obscure regulations that don't happen until the out years.

Gunny
06-29-2023, 05:04 PM
When administration is on ropes with one issue, 'when it rains, it pours...'

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/from-powerful-unions-to-everyday-voters-bidens-gas-powered-car-purge-prompts-backlash/


The pansy Dems should just run on jacking up the gas tax and cutting back on federal highway expansion funds. Nothing like burying their hopes and dreams in obscure regulations that don't happen until the out years.

This is one of those bewildering things like Jews voting for Democrats. Democratic policies killed most industry in the US. Yet those industries are unionized and unions, in business for themselves like any government, are steadfast Dem, with their workers following suit. There's not a good guy in this story.

Labor unions are just another racket within the Dem racket. I just don't get the workers not seeing that.

Kathianne
06-30-2023, 12:37 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/29/electric-cars-are-an-expensive-scam/


Electric Cars Are An Expensive ScamBY: DAVID HARSANYI
JUNE 29, 2023
5 MIN READ


If EVs were really an innovation, the state wouldn’t have to bribe and force companies to produce them.

The left likes to treat skeptics of electrical cars as if they were Luddites. Truth is, making an existing product less efficient but more expensive doesn’t really meet the definition of innovation.


Even the purported amenities and technological advances EV-makers like to brag about in their ads have been a regular feature of gas-powered vehicles going back generations. At best, EVs, if they fulfill their promise, are a lateral technology.


Which is why there is no real “emerging market” for EVs in the United States as much as there’s an industrial policy in place that props up EVs with government purchases, propaganda, endless state subsidies, cronyism, taxpayer-backed loans, and edicts. The green “revolution” is an elite-driven, top-down technocratic project.


And it’s increasingly clear that the only reason giant rent-seeking carmakers are so heavily invested in EV development is that government is promising to artificially limit the production of gas-powered cars.


In March, Joe Biden signed an executive order to “set a target” for half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 to be zero-emission. California claims it is banning combustion engines in all new cars in about 10 years. So carmakers adopt business models to deal with these distorted incentives and contrived theoretical markets of the future.


In today’s real-world economy, though, Ford announced this week that it was firing at least 1,000 employees — many of them white-collar workers on the EV side. Ford projects it’s going to lose $3 billion on electric vehicles in 2023, bringing its EV losses to $5.1 billion over two years. In 2021, Ford reportedly lost $34,000 on every EV it made. This year it was losing more than $58,000 on every EV. In a normal world, Ford would be dramatically scaling back EV production, not expanding it. Remember that next time we need to bail out Detroit.


Then again, we’re already bailing them out, I suppose. Last week, the U.S. Energy Department lent Ford — again, a company that loses tens of thousands of dollars on every EV it sells — another $9.2 billion in taxpayer dollars for a South Korean battery project. One imagines no sane bank would do it. The cost of EV batteries has gone up, not down, over the past few years.


Ford says these up-front losses are part of a “start-up mentality.” We’re still pretending EVs are a new idea rather than an inferior one. But scaremongering about climate and a misplaced romanticizing of “manufacturing” jobs have softened up the public for this kind of waste. In the statist’s utopian vision, highly paid union members will be grabbing their lunchpails and biking over to the local solar panel factory or EV production line and toiling there for the common good.


In the real world, there is Lordstown. In 2019, after GM — which also loses money on every EV sold — shut down a plant in Lordstown, Ohio, then-President Donald Trump made a big deal of publicly pressuring the auto giant to rectify the situation. So CEO Mary Barra lent Lordstown Motors, a new EV outfit, $40 million to retrofit the plant. Ohio also gave the company another $60 million.


You may remember the widespread glowing coverage of Lordstown. After Joe Biden signed his “Buy American” executive order, promising to replace the entire U.S. federal fleet with EVs, Lordstown’s stock shot up.


By the start of this year, Lordstown had manufactured 31 vehicles total. Six had been sold to actual consumers. (But to be fair, five would be recalled — following a recall of 19.) The stock was trading at barely a dollar. Tech-funding giant Foxconn was pulling its $170 million. And this week the company filed for bankruptcy.

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