Vaccine Mandate walkouts - it's starting

[SassyLady]

Southwest Airlines and Air traffic controller walked out in Jacksonville prompting cancelation of thousands of flights.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/media-blackout-not-just-southwest-airlines-air-traffic-controllers-jacksonville-walked-friday-night-protesting-mandatory-covid-vaccinations/

[Black Diamond]

Southwest Airlines and Air traffic controller walked out in Jacksonville prompting cancelation of thousands of flights.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/media-blackout-not-just-southwest-airlines-air-traffic-controllers-jacksonville-walked-friday-night-protesting-mandatory-covid-vaccinations/

Oh is that the real reason for the cancelations? They claimed weather and air traffic control issues.

[SassyLady]

No employees at airport?



However, the situation appeared to have only worsened on Sunday, with SouthWest account on Twitter being inundated by complaints from the disgruntled passengers claiming that flights had been cancelled out of the blue and that the airline’s employees were nowhere to be seen.
“Flight cancelled out of nowhere and now NO ONE is seen at the front desks to assist customers,” actor Kevin Michael Martin complained.


https://www.rt.com/usa/537120-southwest-cancel-flights-mandates-weather/

[SassyLady]

More..

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/10/10/southwest-airlines-controllers-walk-off-job-because-of-tyrannical-vaccine-mandates-more-than-1000-flights-cancelled/

[Black Diamond]

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[Abbey Marie]

WWRD.

“What would Reagan do?”

[NightTrain]

Excellent. This kind of mass rebellion is exactly what it's going to take to reign in this tyrannical liberal authoritarian bullshit.

The other industries will soon follow their lead, I'm hoping.

[jimnyc]

Excellent. This kind of mass rebellion is exactly what it's going to take to reign in this tyrannical liberal authoritarian bullshit.

The other industries will soon follow their lead, I'm hoping.

I think we may see some relent somewhat - but unfortunately I think most will lose jobs & many will also be hired to take over positions. Yet to see how the airline industry recovers. Lucky for them, a few years ago they started planning for issues regarding massive retirements in the next 2 years. So they have been planning but obviously not for firing over covid. This is gonna hurt and travel via air will be fu**ed for a few years. :(

IMO it's awfully stupid with all of these firings going on. Gonna be much more hurt taking place than just over travel. I know hospitals have liability to think about now but airlines are different. Many industries will all be different for their own reasons. But in the end - they all need $$$ to survive, so we'll see.

But yes, the rebellions are needed to an extent. And I think more importantly, I wish we would see many more lawsuits over constitutional issues.

And then you have schools and issues with parents, and they just label them domestic terrorists.

There have been WAY WAY too many overreaches from day one on all of this IMO.

So again, I get the l;iabiliity issues and places covering their asses they best the can when they can. But other than it's mainly mandates of bullshit, starting from this administration, and way too much strong arming of people to try and convince force them to get the vaccine.

[Gunny]

WWRD.

“What would Reagan do?”IIRC, he threatened to jail them if they didn't get their asses back on the job. That was over money though, wasn't it? That was one of the first things he had to deal with in office. I think I had 1 0r 2 stripes. And hair Kathianne :)

[Abbey Marie]

IIRC, he threatened to jail them if they didn't get their asses back on the job. That was over money though, wasn't it? That was one of the first things he had to deal with in office. I think I had 1 0r 2 stripes. And hair @Kathianne (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=8) :)

Yup. He shut that strike down pretty well.

[SassyLady]

Yup. He shut that strike down pretty well.
Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?

[Abbey Marie]

Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?

Yup. Similar results, though, if more airlines’ pilots walk out.

[icansayit]

The Biden plan is working perfectly. Using the Virus as they like for their SOCIALIST reasons.
1. The ships on both coasts waiting to be loaded, and unloaded...HAVE BEEN STOPPED.
2. The workers who do the handling of the cargo containers were threatened about getting the SHOTS. They refused...so the Biden fearing, loving companies..FIRED THEIR WORKERS...leaving....shortages across the country.

3. If the ships can't be loaded or unloaded. That means NO TRUCKS get unloaded, or loaded, and the Drivers have refused to get the BIDEN SHOTS...so...TRUCKS stop running both ways.

4. AMAZON, FEDEX, UPS, and even the U.S.P.S. have a shortage of workers to pickup and deliver for the same reasons.

5. Finally. Hospitals, and School Boards made the demands of Medical Workers and Teachers...who also have refused to get the BIDEN SHOTS.

6. And WHY should all of those NOW fired, and Unemployed workers go back to their jobs when THE BIDEN PLAN will pay them all MORE to stay home, and collect the Imaginary money WE DON'T HAVE...like13665

So...where does that leave all of us.....?https://i.colnect.net/f/89/492/Up_Shits_Creek_Without_A_Paddle_Character_In_Shit_ Water.jpg
LITERALLY..

[SassyLady]

Double post

[Gunny]

Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?Yes


Yup. Similar results, though, if more airlines’ pilots walk out.If you mean results where walkouts and groundings are concerned, yes. If you mean Biden is going to handle it the way President Reagan did, he couldn't hope to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan's ass :laugh:

I liked Ronald Reagan. He as the last President I voted FOR. He'd already be slapping heads all over the place and squaring shit away if he was our President again.

[Black Diamond]

Yes

If you mean results where walkouts and groundings are concerned, yes. If you mean Biden is going to handle it the way President Reagan did, he couldn't hope to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan's ass :laugh:

I liked Ronald Reagan. He as the last President I voted FOR.

To channel Larry Holmes, Biden couldn't carry Reagans jock strap. :laugh:

[jimnyc]

Some more fighting back.

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Brave Veteran Pilot Speaks Out Against Vaccine Mandates

A US veteran pilot posted a TikTok video claiming his airline’s vaccine mandate amounts to an ultimatum between “feeding his family” and freedom of choice.”

The pilot, who uses the TikTok account @cellsaucenutrition in the video, says, “I’ve been an airline pilot for 18 years and now I’m facing an ultimatum… I’m being told that in order to continue my career as an airline pilot, I must be vaccinated.”

The pilot adds, “Which really means I have to choose between putting food on the table for my family and my freedom of choice. I’ve been told that in order to continue my career as an airline pilot I must be vaccinated, which really means I have to choose between putting food on the table for my family, and my freedom of choice.”

https://i.imgur.com/SF2M7vn.png

A Qantas pilot also spoke out against the vaccine and he was fired in Australia.

https://i.imgur.com/NOPGY7r.png

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/glorious-brave-veteran-pilot-speaks-vaccine-mandates-video/

[SassyLady]

I wonder how many vaccines are mandated in order to be a pilot.

In their original contract are there terms that deal with vaccines? Would the mandate be a violation of their contract?

[Abbey Marie]

Yes

If you mean results where walkouts and groundings are concerned, yes. If you mean Biden is going to handle it the way President Reagan did, he couldn't hope to be a pimple on Ronald Reagan's ass :laugh:

I liked Ronald Reagan. He as the last President I voted FOR. He'd already be slapping heads all over the place and squaring shit away if he was our President again.

Oh Lordy, no. Biden couldn’t act like Reagan if his own life depended on it.

[icansayit]

THEY ARE NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND...unless you are BIDEN or a LIBERAL

https://bonnerlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/4th-Amendment.jpghttps://aaregistry.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/14th-amendment-300x276.jpg


The DEMOCRATS actually created the FREEDOM OF CHOICE ACT. Now they are violating their own ACT???

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/s1173/text
1.Short title
This Act may be cited as the Freedom of Choice Act.

2.Findings
Congress finds the following:

(1)The United States was founded on core principles, such as liberty, personal privacy, and equality, which ensure that individuals are free to make their most intimate decisions without governmental interference and discrimination.
(2)One of the most private and difficult decisions an individual makes is whether to begin, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy. Those reproductive health decisions are best made by women, in consultation with their loved ones and health care providers.
(3)In 1965, in Griswold v. Connecticut (381 U.S. 479), and in 1973, in Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113) and Doe v. Bolton (410 U.S. 179), the Supreme Court recognized that the right to privacy protected by the Constitution encompasses the right of every woman to weigh the personal, moral, and religious considerations involved in deciding whether to begin, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy.
(4)The Roe v. Wade decision carefully balances the rights of women to make important reproductive decisions with the State's interest in potential life. Under Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the right to privacy protects a woman's decision to choose to terminate her pregnancy prior to fetal viability, with the State permitted to ban abortion after fetal viability except when necessary to protect a woman’s life or health.
(5)These decisions have protected the health and lives of women in the United States. Prior to the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973, an estimated 1,200,000 women each year were forced to resort to illegal abortions, despite the risk of unsanitary conditions, incompetent treatment, infection, hemorrhage, disfiguration, and death. Before Roe, it is estimated that thousands of women died annually in the United States as a result of illegal abortions.
(6)In countries in which abortion remains illegal, the risk of maternal mortality is high. According to the World Health Organization, of the approximately 600,000 pregnancy-related deaths occurring annually around the world, 80,000 are associated with unsafe abortions.
(7)The Roe v. Wade decision also expanded the opportunities for women to participate equally in society. In 1992, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (505 U.S. 833), the Supreme Court observed that, [t]he ability of women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control their reproductive lives..
(8)Even though the Roe v. Wade decision has stood for more than 34 years, there are increasing threats to reproductive health and freedom emerging from all branches and levels of government. In 2006, South Dakota became the first State in more than 15 years to enact a ban on abortion in nearly all circumstances. Supporters of this ban have admitted it is an attempt to directly challenge Roe in the courts. Other States are considering similar bans.
(9)Further threatening Roe, the Supreme Court recently upheld the first-ever Federal ban on an abortion procedure, which has no exception to protect a woman's health. The majority decision in Gonzales v. Carhart (05-380, slip op. April 18, 2007) and Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood Federation of America fails to protect a woman's health, a core tenet of Roe v. Wade. Dissenting in that case, Justice Ginsburg called the majority's opinion alarming, and stated that, [f]or the first time since Roe, the Court blesses a prohibition with no exception safeguarding a woman's health. Further, she said, the Federal ban and the Court's defense of it cannot be understood as anything other than an effort to chip away at a right declared again and again by this Court.
(10)Legal and practical barriers to the full range of reproductive services endanger women’s health and lives. Incremental restrictions on the right to choose imposed by Congress and State legislatures have made access to reproductive care extremely difficult, if not impossible, for many women across the country. Currently, 87 percent of the counties in the United States have no abortion provider.
(11)While abortion should remain safe and legal, women should also have more meaningful access to family planning services that prevent unintended pregnancies, thereby reducing the need for abortion.
(12)To guarantee the protections of Roe v. Wade, Federal legislation is necessary.
(13)Although Congress may not create constitutional rights without amending the Constitution, Congress may, where authorized by its enumerated powers and not prohibited by the Constitution, enact legislation to create and secure statutory rights in areas of legitimate national concern.
(14)Congress has the affirmative power under section 8 of article I of the Constitution and section 5 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution to enact legislation to facilitate interstate commerce and to prevent State interference with interstate commerce, liberty, or equal protection of the laws.
(15)Federal protection of a woman's right to choose to prevent or terminate a pregnancy falls within this affirmative power of Congress, in part, because—
(A)many women cross State lines to obtain abortions and many more would be forced to do so absent a constitutional right or Federal protection;
(B)reproductive health clinics are commercial actors that regularly purchase medicine, medical equipment, and other necessary supplies from out-of-State suppliers; and
(C)reproductive health clinics employ doctors, nurses, and other personnel who travel across State lines in order to provide reproductive health services to patients.

[fj1200]

Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?


Yup. Similar results, though, if more airlines’ pilots walk out.

Airline pilots don't work for the Federal government. Air traffic controllers do. But there is a Federal law that gives the POTUS authority to nix strikes in critical industries for a "cooling off period."

[Mr. P]

Excellent. This kind of mass rebellion is exactly what it's going to take to reign in this tyrannical liberal authoritarian bullshit.

The other industries will soon follow their lead, I'm hoping.

Exactly, just say NO! We ALL have to do that.


Wasn't that ATCs, not pilots of a private airline?

Correct.


I wonder how many vaccines are mandated in order to be a pilot.

In their original contract are there terms that deal with vaccines? Would the mandate be a violation of their contract?

None are required to be a pilot.


Airline pilots don't work for the Federal government. Air traffic controllers do. But there is a Federal law that gives the POTUS authority to nix strikes in critical industries for a "cooling off period."

This wasn't a strike, but it damn sure got attention.

[icansayit]

Exactly, just say NO! We ALL have to do that.



Correct.



None are required to be a pilot.



This wasn't a strike, but it damn sure got attention.

Biden told the major industries to follow his MANDATE for shots, or fire the employee's who didn't follow the mandate. So the pilots know they can't fly if the Mechanics, and Cargo handlers won't do their job at the airports...THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE.
The only way to SOLVE all of the transportation, trucking, pilots, port workers and on and on would be.....BIDEN HAS TO RECIND HIS ORDERS...Otherwise. The recession will be like 1929.

[Mr. P]

Biden told the major industries to follow his MANDATE for shots, or fire the employee's who didn't follow the mandate. So the pilots know they can't fly if the Mechanics, and Cargo handlers won't do their job at the airports...THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE.
The only way to SOLVE all of the transportation, trucking, pilots, port workers and on and on would be.....BIDEN HAS TO RECIND HIS ORDERS...Otherwise. The recession will be like 1929.

The employees seem poised to say, :finger4:

As I said, we ALL need to do that.

It'll be much worse than 1929 I'm afraid.

[Juicer66]

The Biden plan is working perfectly. ------------------.



Good post, but ------

Wish I knew whose plan it really was and the exact target end result .

It is too easy to blame Biden -- ( his handlers actually , to be pedantic ) --- but is this helpful and even correct or useful ?

The plan as outlined appears literally factual but by the same token seems to be the plan of raving lunatics .

It is bound to fail . Fail lamentably. And that does not require great foresight .

So whose benefit is it for and based on what thinking ?

If it is the Good Guys giving the fools the rope to hang themselves, how will they later justify the pain and mayhem that will still inevitably result ?

Or, are we just seeing a Deep State change of guard with someone like Trump ( just a random name ! ) only changing the pecking order and updating old previous plans ?

With a few wicked twists and an apparent surface narrative that totally fools the Sheeple who are 90% gullible by definition ?

I sure would love some better insight .

[Abbey Marie]

Employers already begging for workers definitely don’t need this mandate now.

[NightTrain]

Even though everyone is claiming Southwest's problems aren't due to workers refusing to work, it is.

I read somewhere that the mandate deadline is coming up, and if an employee has sick leave or vacation coming, it gets nuked. So... they're burning that time before losing it entirely when they get fired.

This pic pretty much spells out what's actually happening :

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Yeah, there's going to be a lot of people inconvenienced, but there are greater concerns afoot.

[Gunny]

When I get tired of no kids from 0650 - 1520 I may look around for a part time job during those hours. WTH. I'm already vaccinated and it doesn't look like Joe's going to save us from inflation.