FBI, DOJ, Invoking The Patriot Act

[Kathianne]

National School Board writes Biden. He's siccing the FBI on parents. You'll notice no threats are listed:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/gwendolynsims/2021/10/05/epic-427000-parents-respond-to-national-school-board-association-labeling-them-domestic-terrorists-n1521936

[revelarts]

But the anti-terrorism laws would never be used willy nilly on U.S. citizens... right?

[fj1200]

The NSBA isn't a government organization and the Federal government doesn't appear to have done anything yet.

[Kathianne]

The NSBA isn't a government organization and the Federal government doesn't appear to have done anything yet.

Another big contributor to Biden. Look at teacher's unions and CDC rules.

[JakeStarkey]

Teacher's unions and the CDC now control the use of the Patriot Act?

[Kathianne]

Teacher's unions and the CDC now control the use of the Patriot Act?

If you don't read the links given, don't bother with your snark.

[JakeStarkey]

If you are yelling about teacher's unions and the Patriot Act, you should be snarked at.

[Gunny]

National School Board writes Biden. He's siccing the FBI on parents. You'll notice no threats are listed:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/gwendolynsims/2021/10/05/epic-427000-parents-respond-to-national-school-board-association-labeling-them-domestic-terrorists-n1521936
The People cannot hope for any relief from the government for refusing to allow their children to be taught lies, divisiveness and hatred under the leftist agenda.

The government and its Patriot Act the Dems cried for can go f*ck itself.

[Gunny]

"Domestic terrorism". The newest label for the Dem government to scare the right into silence with. Notice there seems to be an abundance of right wing groups labeled such, but no left wing ones?

Now parents concerned for the welfare of their children and what they are being brainwashed with are "domestic terrorists":rolleyes:

They need to be sure and spell my name right when they put it on the list.

[JakeStarkey]

The People cannot hope for any relief from the government for refusing to allow their children to be taught lies, divisiveness and hatred under the leftist agenda.

The government and its Patriot Act the Dems cried for can go f*ck itself.

Are you forgetting this began with Bush43, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and that bunch?

The Dems fell right into line like the stooges they, and the Pubs, can be.

[Black Diamond]

"Domestic terrorism". The newest label for the Dem government to scare the right into silence with. Notice there seems to be an abundance of right wing groups labeled such, but no left wing ones?

Now parents concerned for the welfare of their children and what they are being brainwashed with are "domestic terrorists":rolleyes:

They need to be sure and spell my name right when they put it on the list.


This gets better by the minute.

[Gunny]

Are you forgetting this began with Bush43, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and that bunch?

The Dems fell right into line like the stooges they, and the Pubs, can be.Nope. Haven't forgotten a thing. The Patriot Act was a result of "The President's not doing anyting", "What's Bush doing about?" wailing and gnashing of teeth by the elft in the aftermath of 9/11 that is no longer relevant to them. At that time it was controversial because the accusers feared what is happening now back then.

It's one thing to eavesdrop on people communicating with foreign actors and quite another to weaponize it against the people of the United States by simply labeling them.

[icansayit]

Think about it. What's to stop Biden, Garland, and the FBI to find all of us here on DP in the same category as those parents who WANT TO BE HEARD and VOICE THEIR OPINIONS?

In other words. If WE let this stuff happen...WHERE WILL IT EVER STOP?

Seems to me. They have already THROWN THE 1ST AMENDMENT AWAY, and will be enforcing the MARXIST, LENNONIST, STALINIST...CLINTON/OBAMA/BIDEN/DNC track toward SOCIALISM.

[JakeStarkey]

Nope. Haven't forgotten a thing. The Patriot Act was a result of "The President's not doing anyting", "What's Bush doing about?" wailing and gnashing of teeth by the elft in the aftermath of 9/11 that is no longer relevant to them. At that time it was controversial because the accusers feared what is happening now back then.

It's one thing to eavesdrop on people communicating with foreign actors and quite another to weaponize it against the people of the United States by simply labeling them.

Yes, I have opposed the open parameters of the Act since day one.

[Russ]

Are you forgetting this began with Bush43, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and that bunch?

The Dems fell right into line like the stooges they, and the Pubs, can be.

This is such a typical JakeStarkey post. Starts out with a statement that is not only false but is so ridiculous that a normal person has to laugh derisively. Then the post devolves from there into babbling.

[Russ]

By the way, I just have to make one comment about Merrick Garland: How the heck did this justice-ignoring stooge ever get nominated for the Supreme Court? He's fine with using the DoJ to prosecute and persecute Moms and Dads who complain at School Board meetings? What kind of kangaroo court did he come from? Thank God his presence isn't befouling the Supreme Court.

[Black Diamond]

By the way, I just have to make one comment about Merrick Garland: How the heck did this justice-ignoring stooge ever get nominated for the Supreme Court? He's fine with using the DoJ to prosecute and persecute Moms and Dads who complain at School Board meetings? What kind of kangaroo court did he come from? Thank God his presence isn't befouling the Supreme Court.

He was almost Obamas one last stab at the country on his way out.

[fj1200]

By the way, I just have to make one comment about Merrick Garland: How the heck did this justice-ignoring stooge ever get nominated for the Supreme Court? He's fine with using the DoJ to prosecute and persecute Moms and Dads who complain at School Board meetings? What kind of kangaroo court did he come from? Thank God his presence isn't befouling the Supreme Court.

I guess I missed it in the link; where did he do that?

[NightTrain]

By the way, I just have to make one comment about Merrick Garland: How the heck did this justice-ignoring stooge ever get nominated for the Supreme Court? He's fine with using the DoJ to prosecute and persecute Moms and Dads who complain at School Board meetings? What kind of kangaroo court did he come from? Thank God his presence isn't befouling the Supreme Court.

I was thinking the same thing. Can you imagine this hack seated on the USSC?

Really dodged a bullet on that one.


I guess I missed it in the link; where did he do that?

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has issued a throwdown to Joe Biden’s school board cops over at the Department of Justice.

This week, Attorney General Merrick Garland ordered the FBI to begin looking into cases of “domestic terrorists” showing up at school board meetings across the nation to rail against mask mandates and the racist “critical race theory” programs.

PJ Media’s Stacey Lennox (https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/10/05/ag-merrick-garland-sics-the-feds-on-parents-opposing-critical-race-theory-n1521672) noted that Garland’s response to a complaint by a National School Boards Association was an obvious attempt to chill free speech and turn understandably concerned parents into “domestic terrorists,” as the letter (https://nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf) called the parents.

PJ Media’s Megan Fox (https://pjmedia.com/columns/megan-fox/2021/10/05/what-threats-led-to-doj-turning-fbi-loose-on-parents-protesting-school-boards-n1521793) looked at all the incidents the organization listed as “domestic violence” or “hate crimes” in its letter, (https://nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf) and, after laughing at what passes for “domestic terrorism” to these pant loads, investigated every single one.

Indeed, school boards are so unclear about what constitutes a threat that Garland’s goons will teach them. (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers)

Sending Fibbies to investigate a local school board meeting is weird, to say the least. It’s akin to using a 100mm Howitzer when a popgun would have done the job.

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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2021/10/06/desantis-orders-biden-to-keep-his-federal-school-board-cops-out-of-florida-n1522133

[revelarts]

Are you forgetting this began with Bush43, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and that bunch?
The Dems fell right into line like the stooges they, and the Pubs, can be.


Yes, I have opposed the open parameters of the Act since day one.

Something we agree on.
And same here, From DAY ONE.

and it's weird to me that that some republicans or conservatives still have a hard time admitting that MOST of them we're 100% on board with the all the unconstitutional patriot acts, unconstitutional indefinite detention and secret prisons, unconstitutional spying on all U.S commincations, unconstitutional searches and seizures, unconstitutional secret courts, unconstitutional tribunals, unconstitutional war powers, unconstitutional renditions, unconstitutional world wide war-on-terror, unconstitutional torture, unconstitutional Military use on U.S. soil (USNORTHCOM), unconstitutional "kill list", etc etc.

All initiated and PUSHED HARD by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and a series of Bush A.G.s. and ScumBag "conservative" lawyers. Even to defending many of the actions to the supreme court. "For our safety." and "9/11!". And if anyone said anything against any of it were called "unrealistic" at best and "liberals" who hated America and wanted the terrorist to WIN by most conservative and or republicans. Because the constitution is not a suicide pack and the like.
Somehow those folks never believed when told that much of it was ALREADY being used on U.S.citizens or that any of it would ever be pointed squarely at good Americans like themselves , just those shaddy people.

Terrorist, Domestic Terrorist
Legally the operative word is TERRORIST
And legally the word has no fixed definition. (Thanks GWBUSH & his crew and Republican lawmakers)
And Legally the range of what the U.S. Gov't can DO to any "terrorist" is ANYTHING. (Thanks GWBUSH & his crew and Republican lawmakers)

Did the Liberal lawmakers help the whole thing along? Sure did, most of the country was in a fearful war fever similar the blind Covid fear and vaccine fever some have. The liberal leadership had to ride the wave of fear or lose ground (and corporate donors). there were only a few principled anti war and pro constitution people. But their voices were drowned out by the left that simply hated Bush. And the part of the right that LOVES and trust a big authoritarian military gov't protecting us all... BY ANY means. Including denying or ignoring the constitution.
Literally the SAME general argument for vaccine mandates was used by some on the right to promote all the unconstitutional abuses of Bush Cheney and crew.
Something along the lines of "You can't use your 'rights' if you're DEAD."

But Now the left has got the ball and never had a good grasp on the idea of "rights". They're manically tossing the right of "freedom o speech" into the crapper. A right they once defended powerfully and often better than most on the right. And Backing the power of Corporations, of all things, to control the masses. the irony is bizarre. And NOW adding to that, simply trying to use the unconstitutional tools BUSH put in place, that Obama solidified, and Trump was too ignorant to deal with.
But somehow everyone is STILL pretending that it's a left/right issue when the fact is the only winners will be the political and corporate elite who will NOT have to abide by ANY of the rules. While whats left of upper, middle and lower class will have to endure all the unconstitutional BS.

[JakeStarkey]

^^^ Pretty good analysis. Both parties now are major Big Government Progressive entities working with business, one on the left and the other not so left.

[Kathianne]

More:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/07/schools-boards-persecute-dissident-parents/

Seriously sending kids to some public schools could be construed as child abuse. It seems that parents are becoming more than aware of the authoritarianism growing under Biden:


https://www.foxnews.com/us/mom-mass-exodus-public-schools

[Black Diamond]

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[Kathianne]

Well worth reading:

https://johnkassnews.com/the-federal-hammer-parents-and-critical-race-theory/

[Gunny]

Well worth reading:

https://johnkassnews.com/the-federal-hammer-parents-and-critical-race-theory/The argument at your link is why I usually give a ho-hum to even people on the right calling other right wingers "conspiracy theorists", racist and/or organizations, terrorists, etc. NOW it's parents.

See how easy it is to be labeled the bad guy? By the government no less. Not saying there are no rightwingnuts out there. Jan 6th would disprove that. But accepting a government label because the MSM and US government says so doesn't cut it with me.

People should be so quick to judge all the people the US government, especially under Dems, tell us are bad guys without doing some homework.