How are Haitians getting from the island of Haiti to the Mexican border?

[Russ]

I see a lot of news stories lately about large caravans of Haitians showing up at and crossing the US southern border with Mexico.

Two simple questions:
1) Haiti is an island. A caravan of Haitians cannot walk from Haiti to Mexico. How are they getting from Haiti to Mexico? However they are doing it, Haiti is much closer to the US than to Mexico. Why go to Mexico first?
2) Why doesn't this question ever occur to any news reporters? Are they too stupid to think of the question or do they have some agenda that prevents them from bringing it up?

[Disclaimer: Some might consider this to be four questions. Whatever.]

[Gunny]

I see a lot of news stories lately about large caravans of Haitians showing up at and crossing the US southern border with Mexico.

Two simple questions:
1) Haiti is an island. A caravan of Haitians cannot walk from Haiti to Mexico. How are they getting from Haiti to Mexico? However they are doing it, Haiti is much closer to the US than to Mexico. Why go to Mexico first?
2) Why doesn't this question ever occur to any new reporters? Are they too stupid to think of the question or do they have some agenda that prevents them from bringing it up?

[Disclaimer: Some might consider this to be four questions. Whatever.]It is my understanding a majority of these Haitians left Haiti during some event years back and when to Central and South America. They see an opportunity to get into the US and are now coming up through Mexico.

It's also no that hard to smuggle people in by boat. Human smugglers probably have Coast Guard schedules down pat. They were always catching them in S FL. when I lived in Miami.

[fj1200]

I see a lot of news stories lately about large caravans of Haitians showing up at and crossing the US southern border with Mexico.

Two simple questions:
1) Haiti is an island.

Erick Erickson had mentioned that many of them had gone to Rio to work the Olympics and have started migrating recently.

[Gunny]

Erick Erickson had mentioned that many of them had gone to Rio to work the Olympics and have started migrating recently.Their last earthquake or hurricane or whatever caused a bunch to leave.

They don't need an excuse, just another destination. Haiti is a poster child for raping the land and giving nothing back. Not sure what there was to begin with, but a completely denuded half of an island in the Caribbean is pretty ridiculous.

[fj1200]

They don't need an excuse, just another destination. Haiti is a poster child for raping the land and giving nothing back. Not sure what there was to begin with, but a completely denuded half of an island in the Caribbean is pretty ridiculous.

Haiti and the DR share the same damn island.


In the mid-twentieth century, the economies of the two countries were comparable. Since that time, the Dominican economy has grown while the Haitian economy has diminished. The economic downturn in Haiti has been the result of factors such as internal power struggles, rapid population growth, environmental degradation, and trade embargoes. Today, Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere). There is a lack of resources, and Haiti's population density exceeds its neighbor's by far. Despite the UN sending missions since the 1990s, in order to maintain peace, terrible conditions persist.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic%E2%80%93Haiti_relations#cite_no te-Silver2010-11)One large contributor to cultural dissonance is the language barrier, as Spanish is the primary language spoken in the eastern part of Hispaniola (Dominican Republic) while French (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) and Haitian Creole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Creole) are spoken in the western part (Haiti). Race is another defining factor of Dominican–Haitian relations. The ethnic composition of the Dominican population is 73% mixed race,[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic%E2%80%93Haiti_relations#cite_no te-12) 16% white, and 11% black;[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic%E2%80%93Haiti_relations#cite_no te-CIADR-13) while 95% of the Haitian population is black.[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic%E2%80%93Haiti_relations#cite_no te-CIAH-14)
The Dominican economy is also over 1000% larger than the Haitian economy. The estimated annual per capita economic output (PPP) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita) is US$1,819 in Haiti and US$20,625 in Dominican Republic.[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic%E2%80%93Haiti_relations#cite_no te-usat201001-15) The divergence between the level of economic development between Haiti and the Dominican Republic makes their border the one with the highest contrast of all Western world borders and it is evident that the Dominican Republic has one of the highest illegal migration issues in the Americas.

I'm guessing the level of government imposed on the people of Haiti is far higher than the DR.

[Gunny]

Haiti and the DR share the same damn island.



I'm guessing the level of government imposed on the people of Haiti is far higher than the DR.That's what I was talking about. I saw a satellite pic once, and you go from green to moonscape at a line in the sand (border).

It's generally speaking the same piece of land, two different peoples working it. A glaring example of what happens when leadership fails or works. DR has nothing special Haiti did not once possess in resources.

Of note to me is as many places all over the world the US has meddled and tried to change, we have completely ignored our own back yard.