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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 09:41 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghan-family-ravaged-by-u-s-drone-strike-mistake-wants-headstones-for-the-dead-and-possible-new-life-in-america/ar-AAOAGXD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531


The Washington Post
Afghan family ravaged by U.S. drone strike mistake wants headstones for the dead — and possible new life in America
Sudarsan Raghavan 11 hrs ago

a group of people standing in front of a crowd: KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Members of the Ahmadi's family look at the mangled remains of the car where Zemarai Ahmani was targeted on Aug. 29 in a U.S. drone strike, which the Pentagon now says was carried out after numerous miscalculations by commanders. Ten people were killed. Samim Ahmadi, right, stepson of Zemarai, was in the house when the attack happened but suffered only minor injuries. Ajmal Ahmadi, brother of Zemarai, and his son Imran, center, were outside.© Lorenzo Tugnoli/for The Washington Post KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Members of the Ahmadi's family look at the mangled remains of the car where Zemarai Ahmani was targeted on Aug. 29 in a U.S. drone strike, which the Pentagon now says was carried out after numerous miscalculations by commanders. Ten people were killed. Samim Ahmadi, right, stepson of Zemarai, was in the house when the attack happened but suffered only minor injuries. Ajmal Ahmadi, brother of Zemarai, and his son Imran, center, were outside.
KABUL —By the time the American apology arrived, the lives of the Ahmadi family were already upended. And being falsely accused by the U.S. military of ties to the Islamic State was not the worst part of the ordeal.

There was their shattered family house. There were the nightmares, the bouts of crying and the screams triggered by the memory of a U.S. drone strike on Aug. 29 that killed 10 of their relatives, including seven children.

There were the fresh fears of persecution by the Taliban after the media spotlight on the family noted that some members, including survivors, worked for U.S.-based entities or the former Afghan security forces.

The Hellfire missile — the weapon used in the Pentagon’s capstone attack at the end of a two-decade war — also killed the family’s only breadwinner, Zamarai Ahmadi.

“We didn’t have money to bury our relatives,” said his 32-year-old brother Emal on Saturday, steps away from the mangled carcass of a white Toyota sedan. “We had to borrow the funds.”

[U.S. military: ‘Horrible mistake’ led to drone strike that killed 10]

Without doubt, the Pentagon’s mea culpa Friday — that a series of miscalculations led to the wrongful targeting of Zamarai Ahmadi, an aid worker with a U.S.-based group — has lifted a heavy weight off the family.

“The Americans kept emphasizing they killed an ISIS-K terrorist,” said Emal, referring to the Islamic State’s Afghanistan branch. “Now we are happy they have acknowledged their mistake and confirmed that they killed innocent people.”

What the family seeks now is to exit their American-made hell. Family members in interviews on Saturday expressed no visible animosity toward the U.S. government for killing their loved ones. But forgiveness may be too strong a word.

a person sitting in front of a curtain: KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Imal ahmadi, brother of Zamarai Ahmadi, who was killed in the Aug. 29 U.S. drone strike, sits in one of the rooms of the house in Kabul where the attack took place.© Lorenzo Tugnoli/for The Washington Post KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Imal ahmadi, brother of Zamarai Ahmadi, who was killed in the Aug. 29 U.S. drone strike, sits in one of the rooms of the house in Kabul where the attack took place.
Rather, the Ahmadis grasp onto a sense of pragmatism. They want compensation from the U.S. government and help in leaving Afghanistan and getting resettled in the United States or another safe country, family members said.

“You can see the situation in Afghanistan is not good,” said Samim Ahmadi, 24, the step son of Zamarai. “Whether in America or another country, we want peace and comfort for our remaining years. Everyone makes mistakes. The Americans cannot bring back our loved ones, but they can take us out of here.”


Pentagon admits Kabul drone strike likely only killed civilians

On Saturday came further worrisome signs from Afghanistan. A series of blasts rocked the eastern city of Jalalabad, potentially targeting Taliban vehicles, killing at least three people and wounding 20. There was no initial claims of responsibility, but the province is a bastion of the Islamic State.

Before last month’s drone strike, both Emal and Zamarai had applications in process to acquire special visas to enter the United States because of their work with American companies, said family members.

[Political battles grow over general’s push to keep troops in Afghanistan]

The drone strike has heightened the urgency to leave, they added.

“We are worried,” said Ajmal Ahmadi, another brother. “We feel under threat because we are so exposed to the public by the media. Everyone got to know that we have worked for foreigners, served in the Afghan army as well as the Afghan intelligence agency.”

They also want justice. Those responsible for their tragedy, such as the commander who oversaw the strike, the drone operator or anyone else who had visuals on the ground, need to be held accountable in a U.S. court, family members said.

“The U.S. government must punish those who launched the drone strike,” said Emal Ahmadi, slim and bearded, his firm voice at times softening with emotion. “They knew and saw there were children on the ground. Can anyone bring them back?”

Yet so far, family members said, they have had no contact with U.S. officials from any branch of the government, not even to offer their apology personally.

“They should have contacted us and at least asked us about our situation,” said Emal, shaking his head.

a dirty old room: KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: The car targeted in the Aug. 29 drone strike, which claimed 10 lives.© Lorenzo Tugnoli/for The Washington Post KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: The car targeted in the Aug. 29 drone strike, which claimed 10 lives.
Until Friday, the Pentagon had defended last month’s operation as a “righteous strike.” Defense officials said they had tracked a white Toyota sedan for hours after it left a suspected Islamic State safe house and destroyed it to prevent an imminent suicide attack.


Surveillance video shows Zamarai Ahmadi the day he was killed
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In reality, the car’s driver, Zamarai Ahmadi, was a longtime employee of Nutrition and Education International, a charity based in California. He was carrying large water canisters that were apparently mistaken for bombs, officials acknowledged, echoing earlier investigations by The Washington Post and other media outlets that raised questions about the attack.

Analysis of a ‘righteous’ strike

Just before the drone strike, Ahmadi had pulled into his gated family compound, where he and his three brothers grew up in a working-class enclave west of Kabul’s airport. Now, they were all living there with their own families. Their kids played with each other every day in the courtyard.

On this evening, several jumped into Ahmadi’s car. That’s when the missile struck, a pinpoint attack that eviscerated the sedan and sprayed shrapnel into doors and walls, shattering windows.

a young boy standing in front of a curtain: KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Imran, 8, nephew of Zemarai Ahmadi, was in a house nearby when the drone strike hit.© Lorenzo Tugnoli/for The Washington Post KABUL, SEPT. 18, 2021: Imran, 8, nephew of Zemarai Ahmadi, was in a house nearby when the drone strike hit.
Zamarai and three of his sons — Zamir, 20, Faisal, 16, and Farzad, 11 — were killed. The three children of another brother — Arween, 7, Binyamin, 6 and Ayat, 2 — also died, along with Emal’s 3-year-old daughter, Malika, and his nephew Nasser, 30. A cousin’s infant daughter, Sumaiya, was also among those killed.

The entire family depended on Zamarai’s $500 monthly salary, said Emal. With their house destroyed, the remaining 15 family members moved to his sister’s small, four-room home, an hour’s drive away.

“Every night we sleep on the roof because there is not enough space in the house,” said Ajmal Ahmadi. “For the first 15 days, I could not sleep. I kept having flashbacks of my brother, my nieces and nephews.”

[As Afghan newspaper struggles to survive — a beating, and a Taliban apology]

The wives of Emal and another relative, Romal, are more traumatized, said family members. Both women witnessed the deaths of their children. “They have constant nightmares, often waking up screaming at night,” said Emal.

His 7-year-old daughter, Ada, still asks when her sister, Malika, will return home.

“I can’t bear to tell her that her sister is dead,” said Emal. “I’ve told her Malika is at the hospital and one day she will come back.”

Imran, 8, Ajmal’s son, recalled how he would ride bikes and play soccer with his cousins. They would pluck fresh grapes from vines for snacks.

“Now,” he said, “they are in the next world.”

The entire world knows that this murder was a political act to try to show that idiot biden was aware and a fighter- using force to punish terorists there that wer threatening our nation and our citizens there. And how idot biden must have scream-- hell kil someone ther and we sat tety were engaged in terrorism against us!!!

EXCEPT THAT THESE WERE NOT THE BAD GUYS AND THEY IN A MAD RUSH TO EXECUTE THE POLITICAL MOVE, THEY MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE, INNOCENT CHILDREN!

Just one disaster/ffkk-up after another with this incompetent ffing scum and his-- traitorous, invisble handlers.
Things occuring that they can not hide,,,-Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 09:46 AM
The entire world knows that this murder was a political act to try to show that idiot biden was aware and a fighter- using force to punish terrorists there that were threatening our nation and our citizens there. And how idiot biden must have scream-- hell kill someone quick there and we will say they were engaged in terrorism against us!!!

EXCEPT THAT THESE WERE NOT THE BAD GUYS AND THEY IN A MAD RUSH TO EXECUTE THE POLITICAL MOVE, THEY MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE, INNOCENT CHILDREN!

Just one disaster/ffkk-up after another with this incompetent ffing scum and his-- traitorous, invisble handlers.
Things occuring that they can not hide,,,-Tyr

Video link , a medal of honor winner speaks correctly on biden and his disasterious actions.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/retired-marine-corporal-on-kabul-drone-strike-shows-we-have-a-leader-who-is-a-complete-failure/vi-AAOBCXu?ocid=msedgntp


FOX News
Retired Marine Corporal on Kabul drone strike: Shows we have a leader who is a 'complete failure'
Duration: 04:00 2 hrs ago

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 10:17 AM
Biden's people made a drone mistake.

Their nationals supported the bad guys who attacked us on nine eleven.

Quit supporting them.

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 11:03 AM
Quit supporting the Taliban and ISIS-K, Tyr

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 11:43 AM
Biden's people made a drone mistake.

Their nationals supported the bad guys who attacked us on nine eleven.

Quit supporting them.


Quit supporting the Taliban and ISIS-K, Tyr


Are you talking about the same terrorists that Biden gave 85 Billion in US military hardware to?

And then gave them $64 million more a couple of days ago?

The same terrorists that are holding thousands of Americans hostage right now because democrats abandoned them in Afghanistan?

Those terrorists?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 11:50 AM
Are you talking about the same terrorists that Biden gave 85 Billion in US military hardware to?

And then gave them $64 million more a couple of days ago?

The same terrorists that are holding thousands of Americans hostage right now because democrats abandoned them in Afghanistan?

Those terrorists?

My friend, why sure our little wanna be -- Joseph Goebbels--- is defending our nation's terrorist enemies while he accuses me of that very thing.
Which is typical dem/lib/leftist tactics.
Jakkyboy is definitely nothing but a troll, imho..-Tyr

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 12:02 PM
My friend, why sure our little wanna be -- Joseph Goebbels--- is defending our nation's terrorist enemies while he accuses me of that very thing.
Which is typical dem/lib/leftist tactics.
Jakkyboy is definitely nothing but a troll, imho..-Tyr


It's because he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Flailing around in desperation because what's happening is exactly what normal Americans knew what would happen with democrats behind the wheel.

Kind of reminds me of Toonces the Driving Cat on SNL years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fvsItXYgzk

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 12:13 PM
Are you talking about the same terrorists that Biden gave 85 Billion in US military hardware to?

And then gave them $64 million more a couple of days ago?

The same terrorists that are holding thousands of Americans hostage right now because democrats abandoned them in Afghanistan?

Those terrorists?
I am talking about the terrorists you are supporting.

Stop it.

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 12:14 PM
It's because he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Flailing around in desperation because what's happening is exactly what normal Americans knew what would happen with democrats behind the wheel.

Kind of reminds me of Toonces the Driving Cat on SNL years ago.

You are supporting the nationals who supported the tower plane bombers.

Why are you doing that, you turd bird.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 12:17 PM
It's because he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Flailing around in desperation because what's happening is exactly what normal Americans knew what would happen with democrats behind the wheel.

Kind of reminds me of Toonces the Driving Cat on SNL years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fvsItXYgzk

So very apt in its comparison.
There is a rumor going round , that the idiot biden can still walk and chew gum at the same time. I would not believe but after seeing how the manchild idiot eats ice cream like a greedy child maybe it is actually true..
But to do any tasks that require more, our idiot in charge must read poorly what his handlers compose!
That is if they do not cut his mic off....
Man, aren't we such a great nation now?!!!!!
We finally got another Dem hero after the magnificent demigod the genius Obama that wears such fine pressed slacks and reads telepromptors a few thousand times better than idiot biden.....--Tyr

SassyLady
09-19-2021, 01:11 PM
I am talking about the terrorists you are supporting.

Stop it.

Do you mean the Saudis? Can you be more specific which terrorists you're taking about and where the support for these terrorists from members on this board is?

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 01:40 PM
I am talking about the terrorists you are supporting.

Stop it.


Supporting terrorists? Me?

I've never voted democrat in my life.

Show me where I supported terrorists.

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 05:45 PM
There is a rumor going round , that the idiot biden can still walk and chew gum at the same time.




Well, so much for that theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Mwc12LtRY

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 05:49 PM
Well, so much for that theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Mwc12LtRY

Best part of that was that he the idiot fell not once, but three times...
Now that takes some fantastic kind of doing!!--Tyr

Surf Fishing Guru
09-19-2021, 06:22 PM
13502

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-19-2021, 06:57 PM
13502 Thank you ......
Perfect imagery that describes so well that ffing dunce and his handlers, imho. Tyr

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 06:57 PM
Our government under Bush, Obama, Trump the Abominable, and Biden have made drone attack mistakes that ended in killing people. Condemn one condemn all.

icansayit
09-19-2021, 07:03 PM
I am talking about the terrorists you are supporting.

Stop it.




Nobody here on DP would ever, ever.....SUPPORT YOU! And YOU can take that to your Piggy Bank...if the Pre-school teacher will allow you!

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 07:28 PM
I don't care what you think.

All the admins made similar terrible mistakes.

One of Trump's drone attacks gone bad cost 30 innocent lives.

You are hypocrite as is Trump.

That is one of the reasons he lost, and why he will never return to the WH.

SassyLady
09-19-2021, 07:39 PM
I don't care what you think.

All the admins made similar terrible mistakes.

One of Trump's drone attacks gone bad cost 30 innocent lives.

You are hypocrite as is Trump.

That is one of the reasons he lost, and why he will never return to the WH.

Which one?

:link:

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 07:43 PM
Our government under Bush, Obama, Trump the Abominable, and Biden have made drone attack mistakes that ended in killing people. Condemn one condemn all.


I can't recall any of the others blowing up civilians in order to distract attention from the most humiliating American military defeat ever.

Or any of the others giving terrorists $85 Billion in military hardware.

0bama did give terrorists $1.5 Billion in cash in the dead of night, but got caught. Democrats love their terrorists.

I can't recall any of the others trying to order US citizens to take experimental drugs against their will, while explaing "my patience is wearing thin".

I can't recall any of the others blindsiding every one of our NATO allies by abandoning a secure air base in the dead of night.

I can't recall any of the others having allies withdraw their ambassador from the USA.

I don't remember any of the others being held in contempt by British parliament.

I can't recall any of the others having tens of thousands of illegals pouring over the border smashing every record - July 2021 was the highest in 21 years.

I can't recall any of the others having his feed cut as he veers wildly into dementia driven rants. Or admitting that he's been instructed to end his teleprompter reading and 'not answer any questions'.

I can't recall paying over $4 / gallon for gas under any of the others.

0bama had some pretty terrible inflation, but I think we can all agree that Biden's going to take the Brass Ring on that as well.

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 07:59 PM
Which one?

:link:


www.independent.co.uk › news › worldDonald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians ... (https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9DtG_3EdhLD0ASGBXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9 zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1632128319/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.independent.co.uk%2fnews%2fwo rld%2fmiddle-east%2fdonald-trump-us-military-attack-yemen-civilians-women-children-dead-a7553121.html/RK=2/RS=Pr.ygfkhUHlYd79q5Vm5gyEGlek-)


Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children' ... and a further two in a drone strike on central Yemen later in the day. ... during a protest by ...



en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Civilian_casualties_from_UCivilian casualties from U.S. drone strikes - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_U.S._drone_strikes)


The first known U.S. drone strike in Pakistan was June 19, 2004, and the most recent U.S. drone strike in Pakistan was July 4, 2018. Over those 14 years, there were 413 reported strikes in

JakeStarkey
09-19-2021, 08:01 PM
I can't recall any of the others blowing up civilians in order to distract attention from the most humiliating American military defeat ever.

Or any of the others giving terrorists $85 Billion in military hardware.

0bama did give terrorists $1.5 Billion in cash in the dead of night, but got caught. Democrats love their terrorists.

I can't recall any of the others trying to order US citizens to take experimental drugs against their will, while explaing "my patience is wearing thin".

I can't recall any of the others blindsiding every one of our NATO allies by abandoning a secure air base in the dead of night.

I can't recall any of the others having allies withdraw their ambassador from the USA.

I don't remember any of the others being held in contempt by British parliament.

I can't recall any of the others having tens of thousands of illegals pouring over the border smashing every record - July 2021 was the highest in 21 years.

I can't recall any of the others having his feed cut as he veers wildly into dementia driven rants. Or admitting that he's been instructed to end his teleprompter reading and 'not answer any questions'.

I can't recall paying over $4 / gallon for gas under any of the others.

0bama had some pretty terrible inflation, but I think we can all agree that Biden's going to take the Brass Ring on that as well.
Such a selective, partisan memory. :)

NightTrain
09-19-2021, 08:29 PM
Such a selective, partisan memory. :)


Think so? Show me where I'm wrong, Sport.


Also, I can't remember any of the other presidents abandoning thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of allies to the terrorists.


Just think, all of that in 8 months! Yeah, you guys really picked a winner. :2up:

icansayit
09-19-2021, 09:18 PM
www.independent.co.uk › news › worldDonald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians ... (https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9DtG_3EdhLD0ASGBXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9 zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1632128319/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.independent.co.uk%2fnews%2fwo rld%2fmiddle-east%2fdonald-trump-us-military-attack-yemen-civilians-women-children-dead-a7553121.html/RK=2/RS=Pr.ygfkhUHlYd79q5Vm5gyEGlek-)


Donald Trump's first US military raid 'kills 30 civilians, including 10 women and children' ... and a further two in a drone strike on central Yemen later in the day. ... during a protest by ...



en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Civilian_casualties_from_UCivilian casualties from U.S. drone strikes - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_U.S._drone_strikes)


The first known U.S. drone strike in Pakistan was June 19, 2004, and the most recent U.S. drone strike in Pakistan was July 4, 2018. Over those 14 years, there were 413 reported strikes in





So tell us PISSOFF, how many Americans did Donald Trump kill during his time as C-I-C in our Military?

By the way. Have you bothered to even ask your DAY-CARE, or PRE-SCHOOL teacher if you are permitted to play with Keyboards???

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-20-2021, 05:25 AM
I can't recall any of the others blowing up civilians in order to distract attention from the most humiliating American military defeat ever.

Or any of the others giving terrorists $85 Billion in military hardware.

0bama did give terrorists $1.5 Billion in cash in the dead of night, but got caught. Democrats love their terrorists.

I can't recall any of the others trying to order US citizens to take experimental drugs against their will, while explaing "my patience is wearing thin".

I can't recall any of the others blindsiding every one of our NATO allies by abandoning a secure air base in the dead of night.

I can't recall any of the others having allies withdraw their ambassador from the USA.

I don't remember any of the others being held in contempt by British parliament.

I can't recall any of the others having tens of thousands of illegals pouring over the border smashing every record - July 2021 was the highest in 21 years.

I can't recall any of the others having his feed cut as he veers wildly into dementia driven rants. Or admitting that he's been instructed to end his teleprompter reading and 'not answer any questions'.

I can't recall paying over $4 / gallon for gas under any of the others.

0bama had some pretty terrible inflation, but I think we can all agree that Biden's going to take the Brass Ring on that as well.

Idiot biden is less than a full year in and he has made so many epic blunders--all of which Jakkyboy pretends to be successes.
One always has to wonder about the sanity of people that live and operate in that manner..
Best description of that is usually the word-- "delusional".. But hey, I prefer a two word description. As in "batshit crazy"
But then again I do not care who gets offended when I speak the truth. A life long personality trait that has gotten me into dozens of fights..--Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-20-2021, 07:50 AM
PissOff Tyr et al know that Trump's big drone mistake killed 30 innocent civilians but they hypocritically focus only on Biden.

PissOff's posts are just so junior high.:laugh2:

Wow, my post must have hit a raw nerve in our little Jakkyboy..
As is usually the case when that happens, one knows they blasted the truth and the adversary decides to cry about it and throw a fit.. -:rofl1:
Score one for the old poet, and the guy that understands and so fully apppreciates that the TRUTH can not be defeated..-- :saluting2: -Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-20-2021, 07:53 AM
Wow, my post must have hit a raw nerve in our little Jakkyboy..
As is usually the case when that happens, one knows they blasted the truth and the adversary decides to cry about it and throw a fit.. -:rofl1:
Score one for the old poet, and the guy that understands and so fully apppreciates that the TRUTH can not be defeated..-- :saluting2: -Tyr

Here Jakkyboy- let me help ya... give ya some company so you will not have to be alone...


:crying11::crying22::crying33

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-20-2021, 08:42 AM
PissOffZiu cheers Trump for killing an innocent civilians in drone strikes.

His dementia (early onset - he is not 70 yet) is sliding in and out.

It's good the family handlers are close by and the weapons under lock and key.

Hey bud, projecting your own very sad state/condition onto others is yet another sign of stupidity, deceit and admission of defeat...
Yet again, I being a very kind hearted soul will not let ya cry all alone..
I will with a very generous heart and my usual sweet disposition, give you some company--call them, little Jakky kids, ok..???

:crying11::crying22::crying33: --- :waaaah:
Sorry, I had to tossssssssssssssssssss in the fourth one for good measure--as it just seemed to be the needed icing on the cake....--Tyr

icansayit
09-20-2021, 10:44 AM
PissOffTyr condemns Biden's drone strike but tries to ignore, unsuccessfully, Trump's that killed three times as many innocents.

PissOff is a hypocrite.


https://banner2.cleanpng.com/20180530/kpq/kisspng-mental-disorder-mental-health-awareness-month-gene-5b0f49d147b388.0406066315277285932937.jpgAnd Don't forget "TDS".