Storm is stronger than Katrina

[jimnyc]

Poor Louisiana is getting hammered again. :( They were getting sustained 150mph winds at one point with gusts of 185!!

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Hurricane Ida Landfall - Cat 4, 150 MPH Winds, Stronger Than Katrina - Video: Mass Flooding, evacuations - ’pray for Louisiana’

Flooding Begins as Storm Surge, Outer Bands of Hurricane Ida Move onto Louisiana Coast

Hurricane Ida is already causing flooding in southern Louisiana as the predicted storm surge and outer rain bands move onshore. The storm is expected to push a tidal surge of up to 16 feet near the mouth of the Mississippi.

Reports and tweets from southeast Louisiana are starting to show flooding moving onto the coastal areas as a potentially “catastrophic” Hurricane Ida prepares to make landfall on Sunday.

PM Breaking News tweeted video from Grand Isle, Louisiana, Sunday morning showing storm flooding caused by the early storm surge. It also shows the increasing winds in the area.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/08/29/flooding-begins-as-storm-surge-outer-bands-of-hurricane-ida-move-onto-louisiana-coast/

[Juicer66]

What a coincidence that the date exactly coincides with Katrina .

What a coincidence that all flights in the vicinity of the Alaskan HAARP facility -- theoretically closed -- were banned for around ten days just a few weeks ago . Start up?

If anybody thinks weather cannot be controlled , I suggest you DYOR and find out what has happened as fact in the last 40 years .

You will get the shock of your life .

Just saying .

And of course I am aware that the 'let out' is climate change from man made causes . But just blindly shouting 'Conspiracy madness ' does not' wash' one little bit , even if it

might not be relevant as an explanation for Hurricane Ida .

[jimnyc]

oh brother.

Maybe they are trying to destroy Louisiana by storm in order to maybe deflect attention from Brain Dead Joe? Interesting.

[Mr. P]

:laugh::laugh::laugh: These conspiracy theory's crack me up!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

DYOR, look at "why do people believe in conspiracy theory's".

You'll find much written on psychological abnormality's/illness.

Just sayin

[LongTermGuy]

What a coincidence that the date exactly coincides with Katrina .

What a coincidence that all flights in the vicinity of the Alaskan HAARP facility -- theoretically closed -- were banned for around ten days just a few weeks ago . Start up?

If anybody thinks weather cannot be controlled , I suggest you DYOR and find out what has happened as fact in the last 40 years .

You will get the shock of your life .

Just saying .

And of course I am aware that the 'let out' is climate change from man made causes . But just blindly shouting 'Conspiracy madness ' does not' wash' one little bit , even if it

might not be relevant as an explanation for Hurricane Ida .

Thanks for the post Juicy..but I have not heard of weather being controlled of this magnitude..I have heard of things like seeding clouds..etc...But a major Hurricane is another thing..Unless another country got ahold of Alien tech...I would have to disagree..just need more proof.

[Abbey Marie]

Didja know that aliens are controlling all flights in and out of Samoa? It’s because they are taking select humans from those flights and teleporting them to the Mother Ship. They left messages in the frozen foods section of grocery stores saying that they “kinda like Samoan females; and some males, too”. We don’t know why they chose frozen foods, but eventually it will all become clear.

DYOR if you don’t believe me.

[Juicer66]

:laugh::laugh::laugh: These conspiracy theory's crack me up!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

DYOR, look at "why do people believe in conspiracy theory's".

You'll find much written on psychological abnormality's/illness.

Just sayin


You are not the only Compliance Gullible here. Many more with frozen brains .

And oh yes, the Alien jokes were entirely predictable and reminiscent of youngsters at work .But the worrying matter is that of General Ignorance ---- to quote the Team GB , TV show of IQ , where

that phrase is used each episode and here is rife .

So here are a few examples of known weather control for those desperate to have an opinion on something which they otherwise are 100% clueless .

And this is just the tip of a very complex subject and it serves at the front of weapon technology in wars .Now , and has done for some time , children .So listen to Mummy .

Because what does Mummy know?

She knows , Best .


10 Examples Of Cloud Seeding And Weather Control

by Marcus Lowth (https://listverse.com/lvauthor/id%3D20)fact checked by Jamie Frater (https://listverse.com/lvauthor/Jamie%20Frater)



When people speak of weather control and cloud seeding, many minds turn to conspiracies (https://listverse.com/2014/04/25/10-conspiracy-theories-about-weather-modification/) and dark corners of the world’s governments looking to cripple their enemies with a flood, hurricane, or both. And, as limited as it is, there is some documentation showing that government departments have at least looked at the possibility of such environmentally orientated weapons.
However, many of the cloud seeding programs and experiments that take place, if successful, offer those in their respective regions a chance to avert droughts, increase crop production, or assist in the overall cleanup of the atmosphere. Here are ten examples—good, bad, and indifferent—of attempts to control the weather.

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China ‘Clears Rain’ Ahead Of 2008 Olympics

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Photo credit: The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/how-beijing-used-rockets-to-keep-opening-ceremony-dry-890294.html)
In the run-up to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, more specifically the opening ceremony, the Chinese government openly operated their cloud seeding program so that the first day of the Olympic Games would not be marred by rain or any other unsavory weather.[1] (https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/how-beijing-used-rockets-to-keep-opening-ceremony-dry-890294.html) Over 1,000 rockets were fired into the air in the days leading up to the ceremony in an effort to disperse rain clouds that were threatening to dampen the event.
For their part, cloud seeding is a regular occurrence for the Chinese government (https://listverse.com/2014/12/13/10-craziest-chinese-government-jobs/), which openly conducts such projects ahead of public holidays and important events. And it isn’t always to ensure dry days. Sometimes, rain is “made” days in advance, which then helps to clear smog and dissipate pollution (https://listverse.com/2016/04/10/10-incredible-but-strange-things-you-didnt-know-about-pollution/), creating a photogenic environment with blue, clear skies. Despite concerns about the nature of such policies, which include firing silver iodide into the atmosphere, the Beijing Weather Modification Office insists that the levels used are perfectly safe for humans.


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CIA Uses Weather As A Weapon

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It is perhaps no surprise to find the CIA (https://listverse.com/2015/10/29/10-intriguing-mysteries-involving-the-cias-dark-deeds/) mixed up with weather control and modification.[2] (http://www.naturalnews.com/052372_geoengineering_weather_modification_clandes tine_warfare.html) But when the admission finally comes, it still hits home a little harder—as it did when Alan Robock, a climatologist from Rutgers University who is familiar with many CIA weather experiments, commented publicly in December 2015.
Among many examples given by Robock was a five-year mission conducted by American intelligence services during the Vietnam War (https://listverse.com/2015/02/28/10-events-we-cant-figure-out-from-the-vietnam-war/). US military planes took part in extensive, and successful, cloud seeding missions that prolonged monsoon seasons, handing the Americans the advantage of foresight. They also used similar attempts to induce excessive rain over Cuba so as to cripple their sugar harvests.







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If Robock is to be believed, many other nations around the globe are also using the weather and weather modification as a weapon, with delivery methods ranging from “rain-producing chemicals” being distributed from airplanes to highly advanced pulse technologies.



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Project Cirrus Causes Hurricane To Change Direction

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Perhaps one of the more documented weather experiments concerning the United States military was one code-named Project Cirrus, which took place in October 1947.[3] (http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/project-cirrus-hurricane-modification/) This particular experiment involved a consortium of sorts made up of the US Air Force, Army Signal Corps, and the Office of Naval Research as well as the General Electric Corporation, whose involvement, to those in conspiracy circles, would raise an eyebrow or two, given the company’s alleged involvement in supplying both sides during World War II (https://listverse.com/2015/06/17/10-fascinating-snapshots-from-world-war-ii/).
The experiment was the first attempt to modify a hurricane (https://listverse.com/2017/09/11/10-incredibly-strange-facts-about-hurricanes/). The storm in question, which appeared to be headed out to sea, is said to have changed direction and caused considerable damage to Savannah, Georgia, following a US military plane’s flight directly into it. Inside the hurricane, the aircraft dropped 82 kilograms (180 lb) of crushed dry ice.
The hurricane’s sudden change in direction was blamed squarely on Project Cirrus, and it was consequently shut down amid threats of lawsuits. However, those involved already knew the reaction to their actions, regardless of the damaging consequences to the citizens.




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The South African Rainfall Enhancement Program

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Using the South African technological solution of hygroscopic flare seeding, a sophisticated cloud seeding program operated from 1997 to 2001 in an effort to increase rainfall and aid in crop production (https://listverse.com/2016/05/04/10-sacrificial-rituals-practiced-by-ancient-farmers/) and increased harvest.[4] (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Deon_Terblanche/publication/236174616_The_South_African_rainfall_enhancement_p rogramme_1997-2001/links/550137590cf2aee14b58ee12/The-South-African-rainfall-enhancement-programme-1997-2001.pdf) Radar and satellite technology were also utilized throughout the four-year experiment. In total, 95 storms (https://listverse.com/2016/08/16/10-intriguing-finds-uncovered-by-stormy-weather/) were seeded (started), and then following monitoring and tracking, around a third of these were selected for “treatment” with a view to increasing the rainfall and, to a lesser degree, influencing exactly where the rain would fall.
On average, of the 37 storms that were treated, the amount of rainfall doubled from what would normally be expected. The project was recommended for further study and development, with the added recommendation that such endeavors should remain high on the government’s priority list. If the project could be perfected and utilized efficiently, it could result in significant socioeconomic benefits for the targeted areas.







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Illinois Looked At Weather Modification In The 1970s

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The Midwest state of Illinois, which relies heavily on farming as a huge portion of its industry, was looking at the benefits of weather modification as far back as July 1975.[5] (http://www.lib.niu.edu/1975/ii7507195.html) A paper written by then-president-elect of the Weather Modification Association, Stanley A. Changnon, stated that instead of the citizens of Illinois “watching the skies anxiously,” by embracing weather modification, the people could take control of the weather (https://listverse.com/2011/07/15/top-10-extreme-weather-anomalies/) themselves.
Furthermore, Changnon argued, Illinois’s wide variety of weather—which ranged from subfreezing winter storms to severe hailstorms and tornadoes in the spring to “tropical heat” in the summer (https://listverse.com/2017/06/18/10-consequential-horrors-of-summertime/)—made the case for weather modification even stronger, although he would also admit there would likely be “future problems from technological developments.” It was Changnon’s opinion that Illinois (at the time) led the whole of the United States in weather modification research. How much of that research went live, however, is perhaps a little more guarded.





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Israel Has Been Seeding Storms Since The 1970s

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Illinois wasn’t the only part of the world that was looking at weather modification, particularly cloud seeding, in 1975. Israel has conducted extensive research and taken part in substantial cloud seeding programs since the early 1970s in order to increase the little rainfall that finds its way to the country from the Mediterranean Sea.[6] (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0169809515000484)
Further research over the years has found that clouds formed over the Sea of Galilee have greater “seeding potential” than those previously targeted, so resources and cloud seeding programs have more recently focused on this area. It has also been discovered that clouds over Galilee are more naturally seeded by sea salt spray, another factor that has supported the calls for the continuation of such experiments (https://listverse.com/2016/11/08/10-messed-up-scientific-experiments-of-real-mad-scientists/).
Much like the cloud seeding experiments conducted in South Africa, the use of satellite (https://listverse.com/2017/07/29/top-10-hidden-grave-sites-found-with-satellite-images/) and radar technology is also key in the further study of clouds and storms and how best to manipulate them.







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The UAE Is One Of The First Arabian Countries To Cloud Seed

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Always known to be at the cutting edge of technology and development, perhaps it is no surprise that the United Arab Emirates (https://listverse.com/2017/08/15/10-creepy-urban-legends-from-the-uae/) is one of the first Arabian countries to use and develop cloud seeding technologies and programs.[7] (http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575) Using satellites and radar, all aspects of the weather around all areas of the country are monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week. From this extensive research, scientists can tell which clouds at which time of year will be most successfully seeded, even down to reach regions of the country these will form in.
In addition to cloud seeding, these experiments also concern other things such as environmental pollution, monitoring potential natural disasters (https://listverse.com/2015/05/25/10-major-natural-disasters-predicted-in-the-near-future/), and even offering advice and research information for the country’s agriculture. The UAE also monitors the cloud seeding projects of other countries around the world and what (if any) effect they may have on their own weather.




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Canada Prevents Damage From Intense Hailstorms

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Intense hailstorms are a part of everyday life for many parts of Canada, so much so that the Alberta Hail Suppression Project actively flies its planes (https://listverse.com/2011/03/14/top-10-people-who-vanished-in-airplanes/) into the eyes of such storms, seeding the clouds as they do so. If successful, the seeding decreases the damage caused by the storms.[8] (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-s-cloud-seeding-pilots-see-2nd-busiest-year-in-20-years-1.2744786) So great is the damage caused by hailstorms to residential properties and businesses alike that the insurance industry foots the bill of these cloud seeding projects to the tune of $3 million a year. That perhaps gives you a good idea of the amount of money they were paying out to their customers annually.
Working out of their central base at Didsbury Airport in Alberta, pilots (https://listverse.com/2015/12/20/10-ufo-encounters-reported-by-commercial-airline-pilots/) fly their planes into the storms as soon as they are detected and then fire flares containing silver iodide. These laced flares drastically decrease the size of the ice, sometimes to the point that the hailstones completely melt before they have a chance to hit the ground.
Perhaps an interesting twist to the program, intense hailstorms are becoming increasingly regular in some parts of the country. Whether this is consequential or coincidence is not known.







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Maharashtra Cloud Seeding Experiment Finally Goes Live

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Following regular and damaging droughts in the region, the government of the Indian state of Maharashtra announced that beginning in 2017, they would operate a three-year cloud seeding program in an effort to combat the problem.[9] (http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Clouds-over-Maharashtra-will-have-a-silver-iodide-lining/article17309167.ece) Much like other countries, they will utilize silver iodide and dry ice, delivered by planes that will fly high into the atmosphere above the region.
The experiment has been in the planning stages for several years, but ironically, “above normal” seasons of rain delayed its launch for considerable time. Now that it is finally ready to go ahead, scientists hope to collect valuable data so as to better understand weather (https://listverse.com/2008/04/19/20-amazing-and-unusual-weather-phenomena/) cycles of the region. The three-year experiment will potentially benefit the immediate target area, but it is also a small part of a global research program under the direction of India’s Ministry of Earth Sciences, whose main goal is to better understand how chemicals and clouds react and, in turn, what the effect of those reactions will be on the planet’s climate (https://listverse.com/2016/09/10/10-ways-climate-change-has-affected-us-through-history/).




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Curtailment Of Industry Forces Mexico To Look At Cloud Seeding

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In short, the drought had the potential to bring the entire country to a standstill (https://listverse.com/2012/12/26/10-fascinating-economic-collapses-through-history/), and it got even worse in 1949. So, target areas were identified, and planes “equipped to burn silver iodide” were sent into the atmosphere high above the regions in question. The planes spent up to two hours seeding their target areas each day during the program.


These kids are such hard work . .

[Abbey Marie]

You are not the only Compliance Gullible here. Many more with frozen brains .

And oh yes, the Alien jokes were entirely predictable and reminiscent of youngsters at work .But the worrying matter is that of General Ignorance ---- to quote the Team GB , TV show of IQ , where that phrase is used each episode and here is rife.

…

Wait, what? You don’t believe in Aliens? Talk about gullible!

[fj1200]

Wait, what? You don’t believe in Aliens? Talk about gullible!

DYOR duh.

[Abbey Marie]

DYOR duh.

:laugh2:

[Juicer66]

Wait, what? You don’t believe in Aliens? Talk about gullible!

I cannot imagine that there are intelligent people who discount the probability of there being many Alien species .

Only an arrogant and uneducated person would seriously imagine that we are alone in the Universe .

Alien deniers must be a very simple and uneducated minority . I have not personally met one but I have also not knowingly met a serial murderer or a practising

sadist . Tragically all exist .

It's all a bit like New Zealand for me . I have never been there but that does not prove that New Zealand is not real .

[Gunny]

Is this the "Bush Hurricane Machine: of Katrina lore? Or a new one?:rolleyes:

[Abbey Marie]

Is this the "Bush Hurricane Machine: of Katrina lore? Or a new one?:rolleyes:

I think that story was the moment I realized with certainty that there are people who are dumb as rocks. And they walk among us.