Biden's Afghanistan

[jimnyc]

The democrats are pros at the blame game. Surprised it wasn't somehow even "Bush did it".

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Biden Is Playing The Blame Game, But His Culpability In Afghanistan Stretches Over A Decade

President Joe Biden blamed former President Donald Trump and the Afghan government for his administration’s ongoing disastrous withdrawal from America’s longest war, but Biden has been culpable for over a decade.

Biden addressed the nation Monday regarding the Taliban’s overthrow of the Afghan government, which took just a matter of days instead of the months the administration previously predicted. Americans were treated to images of U.S. forces scrambling to evacuate citizens and Afghan allies as the Taliban took over the Afghan capital of Kabul throughout Monday. But while Biden tried to shift blame for the withdrawal, he was in favor of the war in Afghanistan from its outset, and even served as vice president during its apex.

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Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/17/joe-biden-blame-afghanistan-kabul-withdrawal/

[LongTermGuy]

https://rashmanly.com/2021/08/17/biden-playing-the-blame-game-on-afghanistan/ (https://rashmanly.com/2021/08/17/biden-playing-the-blame-game-on-afghanistan/)

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Imagine what relations must be like between Joe and Kamala in this disaster — you told me to - no - you told me to - don't pin this stuff on me - It must be horrible. (https://rashmanly.com/tag/imagine-what-relations-must-be-like-between-joe-and-kamala-in-this-disaster-you-told-me-to-no-you-told-me-to-dont-pin-this-stuff-on-me-it-must-be-horrible/), Joe being Joe - he's trying to blame President Trump for his own fiasco (https://rashmanly.com/tag/joe-being-joe-hes-trying-to-blame-president-trump-for-his-own-fiasco/), Kamala Harris is apparently in open rebellion with Joe - arguing that Joe's trying to pin the (https://rashmanly.com/tag/kamala-harris-is-apparently-in-open-rebellion-with-joe-arguing-that-joes-trying-to-pin-the-disaster-on-her-same-as-she-got-with-the-border-crisis/) disaster on he (https://rashmanly.com/tag/kamala-harris-is-apparently-in-open-rebellion-with-joe-arguing-that-joes-trying-to-pin-the-disaster-on-her-same-as-she-got-with-the-border-crisis/)r :laugh:

[jimnyc]

I think they knew the likelihood of this taking place in Afghanistan, and they just said fu** it and went with it anyway and ignored the fallout. ANd that fallout is still growing.

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Pentagon Claims Kabul Airport Clear amid Reports of Taliban Beating Women and Children

Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), released a statement Tuesday that said Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul has been secured and is once again open to civilian air traffic.

McKenzie warned the Taliban not to interfere with U.S. evacuation efforts and threatened to respond to any attack with “overwhelming force.” Reports nevertheless flooded in of Taliban fighters blocking access to the airport and brutalizing men, women, and children who tried to get past their checkpoints.

McKenzie said he personally evaluated the situation at the airport and is satisfied with “the work our forces are doing to efficiently operate the airfield while ensuring the safe movement of civilians and diplomats who are leaving Kabul.”

The CENTCOM chief said it was safe to resume civilian operations at the airport, with due caution, and warned Taliban leaders not to interfere:


U.S. military air traffic controllers and ground handlers are rapidly scaling up operations to ensure the smooth flow of military reinforcements to the airport and the evacuation of U.S. and partner civilians in coordination with our State Department colleagues.

Currently, the airfield is secure and now open to civilian air traffic operating under visual flight rules.

In meetings with Taliban senior leaders in Doha on Sunday, I cautioned them against interference in our evacuation, and made it clear to them that any attack would be met with overwhelming force in the defense of our forces.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/18/pentagon-claims-kabul-airport-clear-amid-reports-of-taliban-beating-women-and-children/


We Told Him: Deep State Intelligence Turns on Joe Biden After Afghanistan Failure

Intelligence agencies are pushing back Wednesday against the White House narrative that the sudden fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban caught the administration off guard.

The New York Times reports intelligence sources who claimed by July their reports seriously questioned the Afghan military’s ability to resist the Taliban, even as Biden was telling reporters at the White House that it was unlikely that the government would fall.

“The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely,” he said July 8th.

While even the intelligence agencies could not have predicted the nearly immediate collapse of the Afghanistan government, Biden failed to acknowledge growing concerns from analysts in the Summer.

A White House official pushed back against the intelligence narrative, noting Biden and his team never got a “high confidence” level warning of a complete military collapse in Afghanistan.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/18/we-told-him-deep-state-intelligence-turns-joe-biden-after-afghanistan-failure/

[Gunny]

Note the use of syntax. The McKenzie says the airport is clear. The beatings and such are happening on the way to the airport.

McKenzie does NOT say the way to the airport is clear.

He's probably planning on running for office when he retires :rolleyes:

[jimnyc]

IMO - It's still insane in my head going forward with thoughts of recognizing the Taliban.

But hell, likely a lot lot cheaper to go this route.

Yup, all forgotten, all so quickly.

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Boris Johnson: West Could Recognise Taliban as Legit Afghan Govt if They Protect ‘Human Rights and Inclusivity’

The United Kingdom continues its public push to persuade the Islamist warlords of the Taliban to follow up their de facto defeat of the West in Afghanistan by pivoting to becoming a moderate organisation protecting human rights and pursuing inclusive policies.

Top British political figures have been pushing home — since the expensively cultivated Afghan government evaporated over the weekend — the notion that if the Taliban conforms to Western values then it could be recognised as a legitimate world government, with the benefits that entail. Prime Minister Boris Johnson followed the defence and foreign secretaries in his new remarks, where he revealed the kinds of behaviour he expected from the Taliban in return for recognition.

The prime minister spoke to his Pakistani counterpart on Tuesday night about the Afghanistan situation, and following the conversation, a Downing Street spokesman noted Mr Johnson had said on the call that “any legitimacy of any future Taliban government will be subject to them upholding internationally agreed standards on human rights and inclusivity”, ITV reports.

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Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/08/18/boris-could-recognise-taliban-if-they-protect-human-rights/#

[LongTermGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9GCX6WUYAETLPS?format=jpg&name=small

The Big Picture...Done!,,,Now hides and runs from questions of reporters..

[Gunny]

Wasn't that the issue with recognizing the Taliban as the Afghan government prior to 2001? That's all well and good except the Taliban didn't care then. There's no reason to believe they will now. Doesn't seem like they've changed much.

I have no problem with PM Johnson laying it out. Let's face it: somebody has to take the lead in the absence of a President in the United States.

[Juicer66]

Note the use of syntax. The McKenzie says the airport is clear. The beatings and such are happening on the way to the airport.

McKenzie does NOT say the way to the airport is clear.

He's probably planning on running for office when he retires :rolleyes:


Please explain what that has got to do with the price of Raspberries .

[Juicer66]

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I have no problem with PM Johnson laying it out. Let's face it: somebody has to take the lead in the absence of a President in the United States.


Very good .

What does that translate to in English ?

Where did he lay it out ? Exactly how did he do it ?

Come on Gunny . Give us a meaningful comment .

[jimnyc]

There's gonna be more talk about his fitness to lead again after this. He's just a walking disaster, IMO. He can't remember 5 seconds ago.

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Biden Gets Defensive When Confronted on Afghanistan, Incorrectly Says Chaos at Airport Was ‘Four Days Ago, Five Days Ago’

President Joe Biden incorrectly said on Wednesday that Afghans falling off U.S. military planes was “four days ago, five days ago,” when it was two days ago as the Taliban has taken over the Afghan capital of Kabul.

In a preview of his first interview following the fall of Afghanistan, Biden was asked by ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, “Look at what’s happened over the last week. Was it a failure of intelligence, planning, execution or judgement?”

“Look, it was a simple choice, George,” replied Biden.

“When you had the government of Afghanistan, the leader of that government,” said Biden, referring to Ashraf Ghani, “getting in a plane and taking off and going to another country, when you saw the significant collapse of the Afghan troops we have trained, of the 300,000 of them, just leaving their equipment and taking off… that’s what happened. That’s simply what happened.”

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The preview then shows Stephanopoulos asking, “But we’ve all seen the pictures, we’ve seen those hundreds of people packed into a C-17. We’ve seen Afghans falling.”

“That was four days ago, five days ago,” said Biden.

“What did you think when you first saw those pictures?” asked Stephanopoulos.

“What I thought was, we have to gain control of this. We have to move this more quickly. We have to move in a way in which we can take control of that airport. And we did,” said Biden.

“So you don’t think this could have been handled — this exit could have been handled better in any way, no mistakes,” asked Stephanopoulos.

“No, I don’t think it could have been handled in a way that, we’re gonna go back in hindsight and look – but the idea that somehow, there’s a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, I don’t know how that happens. I don’t know how that happened,” said Biden.

Rest - https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-gets-defensive-when-confronted-on-afghanistan-incorrectly-says-chaos-at-airport-was-four-days-ago-five-days-ago/

[Gunny]

There's gonna be more talk about his fitness to lead again after this. He's just a walking disaster, IMO. He can't remember 5 seconds ago.

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Biden Gets Defensive When Confronted on Afghanistan, Incorrectly Says Chaos at Airport Was ‘Four Days Ago, Five Days Ago’

President Joe Biden incorrectly said on Wednesday that Afghans falling off U.S. military planes was “four days ago, five days ago,” when it was two days ago as the Taliban has taken over the Afghan capital of Kabul.

In a preview of his first interview following the fall of Afghanistan, Biden was asked by ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos, “Look at what’s happened over the last week. Was it a failure of intelligence, planning, execution or judgement?”

“Look, it was a simple choice, George,” replied Biden.

“When you had the government of Afghanistan, the leader of that government,” said Biden, referring to Ashraf Ghani, “getting in a plane and taking off and going to another country, when you saw the significant collapse of the Afghan troops we have trained, of the 300,000 of them, just leaving their equipment and taking off… that’s what happened. That’s simply what happened.”

https://i.imgur.com/pJ8V2kH.png

The preview then shows Stephanopoulos asking, “But we’ve all seen the pictures, we’ve seen those hundreds of people packed into a C-17. We’ve seen Afghans falling.”

“That was four days ago, five days ago,” said Biden.

“What did you think when you first saw those pictures?” asked Stephanopoulos.

“What I thought was, we have to gain control of this. We have to move this more quickly. We have to move in a way in which we can take control of that airport. And we did,” said Biden.

“So you don’t think this could have been handled — this exit could have been handled better in any way, no mistakes,” asked Stephanopoulos.

“No, I don’t think it could have been handled in a way that, we’re gonna go back in hindsight and look – but the idea that somehow, there’s a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, I don’t know how that happens. I don’t know how that happened,” said Biden.

Rest - https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-gets-defensive-when-confronted-on-afghanistan-incorrectly-says-chaos-at-airport-was-four-days-ago-five-days-ago/I hate to say this, but Biden does have one legit point: The President did flee and the troops abandon their equipment and run. I don't think many of us even considered that happening. I didn't. That IS f-d up.

[jimnyc]

Some will say this one or that one is nuts. Sure, they are ALL nuts, all these politicians and media folks. But the list goes on and on and far and wide on this one. Long reaching repercussions.

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Joe Biden ‘utterly unfit’ to be President of the United States

Joe Biden is “utterly unfit” to be President of the United States, according to Sky News host Alan Jones.

“It blows my mind how world leaders like Scott Morrison and Boris Johnson suck up to such an intellectually bereft individual,” he said.

Rest - https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/joe-biden-utterly-unfit-to-be-president-of-the-united-states/ar-AANncoi?li=AAgfYrC


Biden stands by decision to leave Afghanistan; Stefanik says he is ‘unfit’ to be president

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden, facing the biggest political crisis of his term, defended the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan amid the rapid collapse of the country’s government, taking responsibility for ending the 20-year war while asserting that the “hard and messy” events of recent days were inevitable.

“I am president of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me,” Biden said in a speech from the White House on Monday afternoon. “I’m deeply saddened by the facts we now face. But I do not regret my decision to end America’s war fighting in Afghanistan.”

While Biden acknowledged that the Taliban’s march into Kabul “did unfold more quickly than we anticipated,” he argued that it validated his decision to end America’s two-decade commitment to Afghanistan.

“American troops cannot — and should not — be fighting in a war, and dying in a war, that the Afghans are not willing to fight for themselves,” Biden said. “We gave them every chance to determine their own future. What we could not provide them was the will to fight for that future.”

Rest - https://www.nny360.com/news/nationandworld/biden-stands-by-decision-to-leave-afghanistan-stefanik-says-he-is-unfit-to-be-president/article_80138769-63fb-5fa3-a992-1c58e9c46837.html


Senate GOP campaign chairman floats 25th Amendment, probe against Biden

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), who chairs the Senate GOP campaign arm, is raising the prospect of using the 25th Amendment to remove President Biden from office and calling for a congressional investigation into his handling of Afghanistan.

"After the disastrous events in Afghanistan, we must confront a serious question: Is Joe Biden capable of discharging the duties of his office or has time come to exercise the provisions of the 25th Amendment?" Scott tweeted on Monday.

The idea of removing Biden from office through the 25th Amendment — which allows the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet or a group established by Congress to remove a president by declaring them unfit for office — is a non-starter.

But it marks the latest attempt by former President Trump and some of his closest allies to raise questions about Biden's mental fitness. Other Republicans have warned that personal attacks against Biden risk backfiring.

Rest - https://thehill.com/policy/defense/568034-senate-campaign-chair-floats-25th-amendment-probe-against-biden


Republican senators question Biden's fitness for office amid Afghanistan debacle

FIRST ON FOX: Two prominent Republican senators say the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, which has led to thousands of American civilians being trapped in the Taliban-controlled country, should raise questions about President Biden's fitness for office.

Florida Sen. Rick Scott told Fox News that it's time to "ask the serious question of whether Joe Biden is fit to lead our nation as commander in chief," while Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson said that the Afghanistan debacle is further evidence that Biden is "unfit for office."

Scott told Fox News in a statement Wednesday that Biden's "abject failure to execute a strategic withdrawal of American forces has needlessly put innocent American lives in danger."

"This massive failure of leadership cannot be ignored. It is unconscionable that Joe Biden found it acceptable to withdraw our troops before first ensuring the safe evacuation of Americans and our allies."

"Now, as he hides from the American public and the press, it’s clear that we must ask the serious question of whether Joe Biden is fit to lead our nation as commander in chief," Scott continued.

"While our immediate focus remains on the safe return of all Americans and service members, I am also calling for Leader Schumer and Speaker Pelosi to immediately launch a bipartisan and bicameral investigation into the Biden administration’s failed withdrawal."

Johnson noted that he has been "saying since September 2020 that President Biden was unfit for office for a variety of reasons."

Rest - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-senators-biden-fitness-afghanistan-debacle


The disaster of the US withdrawal from Afghanistan shows that Joe Biden is unfit to be American president

A letter from John Gemmell:

Ben Lowry on Saturday writes powerfully about the possible collapse of Kabul (‘The collapse of Kabul to the Taliban will be seen as a sign of western weakness,’ August 14, see link below).

That collapse could be just days away.

It will, indeed, be seen as a sign of western weakness.

But, above all, this is American weakness, specifically the weakness of Joe Biden.

Donald Trump was unfit to be president. Joe Biden was clearly far more good than bad, although in addition he presented, rather disappointingly, as a frail and slightly incoherent Irish nationalist sympathiser.

I was not too concerned by this, as long as he continued to be more good than bad, in the overall scheme of things.

Yet, he has now unleashed this catastrophe.

The executions will no doubt have already recommenced in Taliban-held territory, the abuse of women is now inevitable, terrorist training camps will spring up again.

The Democrats, who made so much of educating girls in Afghanistan and elsewhere, have delivered a president who has condemned them to a kind of slavery.

Rest - https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/the-disaster-of-the-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-shows-that-joe-biden-is-unfit-to-be-american-president-3348023


Is Joe Biden mentally fit to be president?

The modern media trend is to make fun of President Trump for his alleged and actual misstatements of fact. You have to go a long way — in this case Sky News in Australia — to find a media outlet willing to make fun of a U.S. liberal Democrat.

The host of a program called “Outsiders,” Rita Panahi, assembled a montage of gaffes and gibberish from former Vice President and Democratic candidate Joe Biden.

The Biden montage makes you ask: Is this guy mentally fit to be president?

Biden supporters might argue the clips are edited, but what makes them formidable, credible — even incredible — is that they appear to reflect Mr. Biden’s speech and thought patterns over many years.

Here are some samples, beginning with his reference to “Super Thursday” (instead of Super Tuesday). Next comes this misstatement during a presidential debate: “150 million people have been killed since 2007 when Bernie (Sanders) voted to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability.”

Rest - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/11/is-joe-biden-mentally-fit-to-be-president/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=CjwKCAjw3_KIBhA2EiwAaAAlipJIvSvJ92PaAYeON5TP bjeWC8r-op4a71c0WXG6cHkb8zN6AcK7pxoCb4YQAvD_BwE





And one of the worst of all of the indictments. Biden states he is 100% scot free and bears zero responsibility in all of this.

Biden says he bears ‘zero responsibility' for Afghanistan debacle

The Taliban have retaken 12 provincial Afghanistan capitals following the U.S. military’s secretive overnight withdrawal from Bagram Airfield earlier this year (U.S. officials didn’t even notify the base’s new Afghan commander before silently slipping away, leaving the official to discover for himself, nearly two hours after the fact, that the Americans had Irish Goodbye’d after nearly 20 years of occupation).

Since the May 1 departure, the Taliban have captured 69 of the country's 407 districts, including ones American and Afghan officials previously considered impenetrable government strongholds against the terrorist group. In total, the Taliban hold 142 districts and are fighting for control of roughly 170 more .

Washington is now dispatching an estimated 3,000 combat troops to assist in the evacuation of American personnel from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, a city that is expected to fall into Taliban hands relatively soon.

But don’t blame these recent developments on the current president of the United States, who ordered the abrupt withdrawal.

President Joe Biden says he bears “zero responsibility” if the Taliban end up retaking the country after 20 years of U.S. engagement and reimpose a regime of terror on the country's residents. The buck stops somewhere else.

Rest - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/biden-says-he-bears-zero-responsibility-for-afghanistan-debacle


'I have grave questions about his ability to lead our nation': Obama's Ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker slams Biden and says his disastrous Afghanistan policy might prove he's unfit to be commander in chief


Ryan Crocker was appointed ambassador to Afghanistan in 2002 and 2011
He said the avoidable nature of the situation is what makes it 'all so sad'
Taliban insurgents quickly took over Afghanistan in the final weeks of US pullout
Joe Biden's drawdown of US military presence is a continuation of Donald Trump's 2020 peace deal with the Taliban, excluding the Afghan government
Crocker blames Biden for keeping up with Trump's decision
A Biden adviser blamed Afghan troops for letting Kabul fall, but Crocker said the US effectively 'sold out' the forces that worked with them for 20 years
He said the Taliban would be 'meaner and tougher' than they were in 1996


A veteran US diplomat who headed the Kabul embassy twice - including in 2002 soon after it reopened after five years of Taliban rule - said he has 'grave' concerns over President Joe Biden's ability to lead the United States after Afghanistan fell to the insurgent group once again on Sunday.

Former Ambassador to Afghanistan Ryan Crocker on Monday called the Taliban's takeover a predictable 'self-inflicted wound' to US foreign policy.

'That's why this is all so sad,' Crocker said.

Rest - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898555/Afghanistan-ambassador-Obama-says-grave-concerns-Bidens-ability-lead-US.html

[Gunny]

If Biden knew anything about leadership, he would just own this and move on. I could at least respect that. Acting like a coward is just making himself look that much worse.

He'll be "unfit for office" when the Democrats decide he is.

[Gunny]

Please explain what that has got to do with the price of Raspberries .Try reading the OP.

[LongTermGuy]

By the way......

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9HT-UEVoAgW2uX?format=jpg&name=medium

[Juicer66]

----------------------------. Acting like a coward is just making himself look that much worse.

He'll be "unfit for office" when the Democrats decide he is.


You overlook other possible scenarios :-

1 He is acting but privately takes orders from the Justice Socialists

2 Acting but takes orders filtered through Schumer and Pelosi . More likely, imo .


3. Acting but takes orders from others :-

This might be from a 'new' Deep State faction that is preparing for a big shift and when he will disappear .

Or , it could be from theMilitary because of the hold they have over him re various criminal conspiracies , possibly linked to China and Ukraine with bulk standard family

corruption for good measure .

But it seems unlikely that Sleepy has any semblance of control over what he does or says . He is simply serving as a useful short term door stop .

But for whom ? Obummer , Trump , Kerry , AN Other ?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I hate to say this, but Biden does have one legit point: The President did flee and the troops abandon their equipment and run. I don't think many of us even considered that happening. I didn't. That IS f-d up.

Does not cut it. Biden and his handlers making excuses.
Why wouldnt the afghan soldiers bug out after seeing the big bad US military do that--overnight?
The way the military bugged out-- inspired that same reaction from the homegrown force left behind--
and it did not help that all the vehicles were left for the enemy to use to speed its takeover-- speed its forward march!!!!
Who did not see that happening?
The problem is the running away was political- instead of it being a judicious retreat with proper destruction of useful military assets.

For an example one only needs to remember -

how soon we forget--Tyr



https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-the-Chosin-Reservoir/Fighting-back-to-the-coast

Fighting back to the coast
On November 29 Almond, having met with MacArthur in Tokyo, acknowledged that the X Corps could survive only if its dispersed divisions headed for the nearest port. Most headed to Hŭngnam and were evacuated to Wŏnsan—a decision that reflected the Eighth Army’s defeats in the west. Moreover, the Truman administration soon discarded the policy of unifying Korea by force, though it still wanted to save the Republic of Korea. Preserving the UNC for this mission (its original one) dictated that the X Corps escape the grasp of the CPVF Ninth Army Group. To achieve this aim, Almond took a worst-case position: the Yudam-ni and Hagaru-ri garrisons would rally at the latter perimeter and then fly out, abandoning the division’s heavy weapons, vehicles, and supplies. The rest of the division would march back down the MSR from Kot’o-ri to Hŭngnam. Smith, however, refused to abandon his division’s equipment. Instead, he argued that the Yudam-ni–Hagaru-ri movement was the critical one. Once the two groups had united at Hagaru-ri, they could absorb ammunition and replacements by air and evacuate the worst wounded and frozen casualties. At that point the division could turn and fight its way to the coastal plain—“advancing in a different direction,” as Smith phrased it. Almond conceded that such a withdrawal by the 1st Marine Division would attract Chinese divisions and thus allow the rest of the X Corps to retreat without real danger.

Men of the 5th and 7th regiments, U.S. 1st Marine Division, receiving an order to withdraw from their positions near the Chosin Reservoir, North Korea, November 29, 1950.
Men of the 5th and 7th regiments, U.S. 1st Marine Division, receiving an order to withdraw from their positions near the Chosin Reservoir, North Korea, November 29, 1950.
Sgt. Frank C. Kerr/U.S. Marine Corps
On December 1 the 1st Marine Division began the movement that eventually took its rear guard inside the perimeter established by the 3rd Infantry Division near Hŭngnam. In the course of this escape, the division rendered three more Chinese divisions ineffective in addition to the four that had already been ruined at Yudam-ni and Hagaru-ri. The Yudam-ni group, the first to move out, did not stop until it reached Hagaru-ri on December 4. The 5th Marines walked the road to protect the vehicle train, while the 7th Marines plodded through the hills to break up Chinese “fire sacks” and relieve the Tŏktong Pass defenders. Their two artillery battalions, meanwhile, moved by bounds to ensure continuous fire support, and Marine and navy fighter-bombers were on call during daylight to strike any suspected ambush. The arrival of the 5th and 7th Marines at Hagaru-ri ensured that the airfield would not be closed by Chinese fire. Marine and air force transports brought in critical ammunition and gasoline and took out 4,500 casualties. The fuel was critical: one Marine artillery battalion lost half its guns north of Hagaru-ri when its tractors ran out of diesel fuel.

U.S. Marines unloading a transport plane at Hagaru-ri, North Korea, during the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir, December 5, 1950.
U.S. Marines unloading a transport plane at Hagaru-ri, North Korea, during the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir, December 5, 1950.
Photo by Cpl. McDonald/U.S. Marine Corps/National Archives and Records Administration
The reassembled 1st Marine Division reorganized, tried to eat and sleep in warming tents, and prepared to fight south to the coast. On December 6 the “attack in a different direction” continued, destination Kot’o-ri, 18 km (11 miles) distant. The real challenge was Funchilin Pass below Kot’o-ri, where the Chinese had destroyed a bridge over a chasm. The solution was to assemble a bridge that was air-dropped in sections, enough of which survived to allow vehicles to pass. The Chinese contested the withdrawal at this chokepoint, but the Marines fought through the trap, although the rear guard had to abandon seven tanks. The final potential barrier, another pass to the south, had been cleared by the 1st Battalion, 1st Marines, in a nighttime attack in temperatures as low as −34 °C (−30 °F). A battalion of the 3rd Infantry Division stopped two attacks on the final Hŭngnam perimeter on December 3 and 15. By the latter date the 1st Marine Division, its rear guard having reached Hŭngnam on December 11, had been loaded onto their waiting transport ships. Resistance by the Chinese had become almost token, their troops ruined by cold, starvation, and relentless X Corps firepower.

Korean War: Battle of the Chosin Reservoir
Korean War: Battle of the Chosin Reservoir
Elements of U.S. 1st Marine Division marching along the main supply route south of Hagaru-ri, North Korea, during the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir, December 6, 1950.
Photo by Sgt. Frank C. Kerr/U.S. Marine Corps/National Archives and Records Administration

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Why 'Chesty' Still Inspires the Marines
By Amanda Foreman
Updated July 29, 2013 3:06 pm ET
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MAGTF teamwork enabling success
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Military.com | By Sean Mclain Brown
Lt. Gen. Lewis "Chesty" Puller was a Marine’s Marine. A bonafide badass leatherneck with the scars to prove it. But this badass had one soft spot—his fierce loyalty and care for his men. Puller’s leadership is one of the reasons why to this day, Marine Corps officers in the field never eat until the enlisted men have been served.


Born June 26, 1898 in West Point, Virginia, Puller grew up hunting and listening to tales of the Civil War told by his relatives. He also had a heavy appetite for reading, pouring through countless books of military tales and history. He would go on to become a well-known figure in Marine Corps folklore, with both true and exaggerated tales of his experiences being constantly recounted within the Corps.

Here are 5 reasons why Puller became a Marine Corps legend:


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1. Lead by Example, Lead Like a Marine

Puller’s motto “Lead by example” is not an empty slogan. He lived with his men. There were no officers' messes in Puller's outfit and he fell in line with the privates, carrying his own mess gear. In combat, he rigidly refused comforts unattainable for his men, and in training, he carried his own pack and bedding roll while marching at the head of his battalion.



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I back in the 70's I worked with a guy that was there, that fought. A damn fine Marine.
They were rearguard and Chesty Puller order that his men must bring along the vehicles and other assets the Army left behind-- as he put it --so the commie bastards get no use of those fueled and load trucks/weapons, etc. The Marines brought it back stateside -they did not leave it to be used by the damn enemy. The Army later begged for that equipment back after the war but Chesty Puller refused and the Marines used it for target practice on the range- so the tale goes.

One must ask why Biden and his idiot advisors saw fit to leave tens of billions dollars in assets -in useable condition to aid the enemy..
Simply does not compute...
To me there is no explaining that, as we are not simply talking about small arms...
Remember the standard -when retreating, burn and destroy what must be left behind- so the damn enemy gets no ffing benefit from it!
Look what Stalin, the ruskies did when fleeing the german advance in WWR
What was done when fleeing Napoleon ..
No sir, either it was indeed a terrible blunder or it was a damn deliberate gift- a bribe perhaps.
Neither choice is anything but a negative on the ffing assclown in charge of this nation now, imho.

No sir, I believe it was a gift-- it was negotiated by the idiot Biden and crew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing else makes sense...imho
And of course they would not want that known ....---Tyr

[fj1200]

If Biden knew anything about leadership, he would just own this and move on. I could at least respect that. Acting like a coward is just making himself look that much worse.

He'll be "unfit for office" when the Democrats decide he is.

He needs some adults in the room and by that I mean anyone with significant foreign policy experience and not most of the chuckleheads around him. A Jim Baker type.

[Gunny]

He needs some adults in the room and by that I mean anyone with significant foreign policy experience and not most of the chuckleheads around him. A Jim Baker type.I posted an article awhile back about Biden's comments on foreign policy. He stated he loves it and considers it one of his areas of expertise. I didn't know rolling over and kissing ass required "expertise".

He is surrounded by "experts". Political appointees. To include JCS. General officers at that level are more politician than military, if there even is a remnant of the latter. Most are going to tell the President what he wants to hear, not necessarily what he needs to know.

I'm not defending Biden. It's on him. There's nowhere "up" the chain for him to lay the blame and the final decision was his. I'm looking at history though. He might be at the top of the list for incompetent CinC's but he is hardly the first and/or only.

The bar to "relieve him of his duties for cause" (a military term) is extremely high, and requires his own staff he appointed to do it. By design. Or, Congress can impeach him. Neither is going to happen unless the Dem's decide to.

Just my opinion, but the Republicans need to just shut up. Let the Dems do it if anything is to be done. They won't. What would Republicans be if they weren't stepping on their own cranks and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?

[fj1200]

^ I was thinking about a group going to him quietly and guide him through the next few years to avoid making even more disastrous decisions and keep Harris being even more inept than Biden.

[Gunny]

^ I was thinking about a group going to him quietly and guide him through the next few years to avoid making even more disastrous decisions and keep Harris being even more inept than Biden.The scary part? I think they think they already are.

[jimnyc]

When he didn't answer anything for a year long campaign, they did or said nothing. So I don't want to hear a single damn complaint from them about him not answering anything now.

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Even White House Reporters Are Calling Out Biden for Not Taking Any Questions

The honeymoon phase between the White House press corps and President Joe Biden seems to finally be over with the president continually refusing to take their questions about the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan.

Biden has held two live events at the White House with members of media present but each time he walked away from the reporters after he was finished speaking. The repeated slights at the press have lead to White House reporters voice their frustrations.

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Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2021/08/19/even-white-house-reporters-are-calling-out-biden-for-not-taking-questions-on-afghanistan-n2594404

[LongTermGuy]

He needs some adults in the room and by that I mean anyone with significant foreign policy experience and not most of the chuckleheads around him. A Jim Baker type.

There are No adults with common sense when it comes to Communist...Joe is to senile and is controlled..

https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/biden_executive_orders-768x584.jpg

[jimnyc]

More coming out about a classified cable from back in July suggesting that Kabul would be in the hands of the Taliban in a NY second.

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State Department Memo Warned of Afghanistan Collapse Back in July

A classified State Department cable from July suggests that Secretary of State Antony Blinken was warned that Kabul would fall into Taliban hands by the August 31 troop withdrawal deadline, a report from the Wall Street Journal on Thursday revealed’

The Wall Street Journal reported: (https://www.wsj.com/articles/confidential-state-department-cable-in-july-warned-of-afghanistans-collapse-11629406993)


About two dozen State Department officials serving at the embassy in Kabul sent an internal memo to Secretary of State Antony Blinken and another top State Department official last month warning of the potential collapse of Kabul soon after the Aug. 31 troop withdrawal deadline, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the cable.

Sent via the State Department’s confidential dissent channel, the memo warned that the Taliban would quickly gain control of Afghanistan and “offered recommendations on ways to mitigate the crisis and speed up an evacuation.”

The WSJ continued:


The cable, dated July 13, also called for the State Department to use tougher language in describing the atrocities being committed by the Taliban. The classified cable represents the clearest evidence yet that the administration had been warned by its own officials on the ground that the Taliban’s advance was imminent and Afghanistan’s military may be unable to stop it.

On July 8, just five days prior to this memo warning of an Afghanistan collapse, President Biden expressly said that Kabul would not be another repeat of Saigon in 1975.

“Mr. President, some Vietnamese veterans see echoes of their experience in this withdrawal in Afghanistan. Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam?” Biden was asked on July 8. Biden replied: (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/567872-the-biden-fall-of-saigon-media-narrative-in-afghanistan-presents-worst)


None whatsoever. Zero. What you had is you had entire brigades breaking through the gates of our embassy — six, if I’m not mistaken. The Taliban is not the South — the North Vietnamese army. They’re not — they’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy in the — of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/19/report-state-department-memo-warned-of-afghanistan-collapse-back-in-july/


Deputy NSA Finer: Cable Warning of Afghanistan Collapse ‘Reflects What We’ve Said’ That Nobody Got It ‘Exactly Right’

On Thursday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Situation Room,” Deputy National Security Adviser Jonathan Finer said that a State Department cable that was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal warning about a rapid collapse of Afghanistan’s government after the withdrawal of U.S. forces from the country “reflects what we’ve said all along, which is nobody had this exactly right in predicting the government and army of Afghanistan were going to collapse in a matter of days.”

Finer said, “I’ll let the State Department speak to the details of the dissent cable, but I will mention a few key points. One is that the cable, as I understand it, predicted the potential fall of the Afghan government in the aftermath of a U.S. troop drawdown on August 31. Obviously, that all happened even more quickly than the cable — which was quite concerned about this possibility — projected. The second thing the cable asked for was evacuation flights by the U.S. government of Special Immigrant Visa applicants, Afghans who worked alongside our mission in Afghanistan. They asked for those to begin by August 1. We began those flights in July. And so, look, I think what we’ve said all along is that when we are assessing the situation in Afghanistan, we take a number of inputs. We get intelligence. We get diplomatic reporting from our embassies in the field. We read open-source reporting and watch the reports of our news organizations like CNN and we make the best assessment that we can. And I think the cable reflects what we’ve said all along, which is nobody had this exactly right in predicting the government and army of Afghanistan were going to collapse in a matter of days.”

He added that while “a degree of turbulence” is unavoidable when a country collapses like Afghanistan did, “we had a plan in place for this eventuality.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/19/deputy-nsa-finer-cable-warning-of-afghanistan-collapse-reflects-what-weve-said-that-nobody-got-it-exactly-right/


Antony Blinken Delusional About U.S. Withdrawal Insisting Taliban Takeover ‘Unlikely’ as Jihadis Declared Victory

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was consistently wrong about the outcome of the unconditional withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan, insisting that a Taliban takeover was “highly unlikely” Sunday, as the jihadis swept into Kabul after the collapse of the government.

Blinken was incorrect when he asserted that the unconditional U.S. withdrawal, a concession long sought by the Taliban, would not result in the fall of Afghanistan.

Secretary Blinken assured that the fall of Afghanistan after the departure of U.S.-led NATO troops was a far-fetched notion, even as the Taliban seized territory (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/07/05/afghan-soldiers-flee-tajikistan-taliban/) and U.S. intelligence warnings months before the withdrawal ultimately determined the rapid collapse (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-warned-rapid-afghanistan-collapse-so-why-did-u-s-n1277026) of the Afghan government and military was probable.

Even the State Department’s own intelligence and research division described the failure of the Afghan forces to prevent the Taliban from conquering territory as a red flag, noting that the deteriorating security conditions could result in the collapse of the Kabul government, the New York Times learned (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/us/politics/afghanistan-biden-administration.html) from unnamed Biden administration officials.

Blinken defended Biden’s withdrawal plan to the bitter end. Contradicting his own department’s intelligence, Blinken provided an optimistic assessment even as the Taliban swept into Kabul on Sunday after the collapse of the Afghan government and declared victory. (https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/afghanistan-taliban-declare-victory-after-president-ghani-leaves-kabul-e2-80-94-live-updates/ar-AANkGeY)

“The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely,” Blinken told CNN Sunday.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/19/antony-blinken-delusional-about-u-s-withdrawal-insisting-taliban-takeover-unlikely-as-jihadis-declared-victory/

[jimnyc]

Only gets odder, weirder and dumber.

After the whole death the America thing, they still claim they are friendly somehow.

Maybe now she will finally get the hint after being chased by armed Taliban after being told to cover their faces.

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CNN Reporter Who Said Taliban ‘Seem Friendly’, Gets Chased By Armed Taliban After Being Told To Cover Face

Clarissa Ward, CNN’s senior international correspondent, gave a report from Kabul, Afghanistan, on Wednesday, after the Taliban’s control of the country.

Ward was previously chastised for saying Taliban Insurrectionists were “just chanting ‘death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time” in an edited video. Ward said the situation was “utterly bizarre” in the full clip.

Ward said that she and her crew were “accosted” right outside Kabul Airport, forcing her to conceal her face. She showed footage of a Taliban member approaching her and a producer with the butt of a rifle after showing a Taliban man taking the safety off his AK-47 and running through a group of civilians.

“You can see that some of these Taliban fighters, they’re just hopped up on adrenaline, or I don’t know what,” Ward said. “It’s a very dicey situation.”

She added, “When the fighters are told we have permission to report, they lower their weapons and let us pass.”

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/cnn-reporter-said-taliban-seem-friendly-gets-chased-armed-taliban-told-cover-face/

[Gunny]

Another Baghdad Bob moment brought to us by CNN:laugh:

[Gunny]

More coming out about a classified cable from back in July suggesting that Kabul would be in the hands of the Taliban in a NY second.

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State Department Memo Warned of Afghanistan Collapse Back in July

A classified State Department cable from July suggests that Secretary of State Antony Blinken was warned that Kabul would fall into Taliban hands by the August 31 troop withdrawal deadline, a report from the Wall Street Journal on Thursday revealed’

The Wall Street Journal reported: (https://www.wsj.com/articles/confidential-state-department-cable-in-july-warned-of-afghanistans-collapse-11629406993)



The WSJ continued:



On July 8, just five days prior to this memo warning of an Afghanistan collapse, President Biden expressly said that Kabul would not be another repeat of Saigon in 1975.

“Mr. President, some Vietnamese veterans see echoes of their experience in this withdrawal in Afghanistan. Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam?” Biden was asked on July 8. Biden replied: (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/567872-the-biden-fall-of-saigon-media-narrative-in-afghanistan-presents-worst)



Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/19/report-state-department-memo-warned-of-afghanistan-collapse-back-in-july/


Deputy NSA Finer: Cable Warning of Afghanistan Collapse ‘Reflects What We’ve Said’ That Nobody Got It ‘Exactly Right’

On Thursday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Situation Room,” Deputy National Security Adviser Jonathan Finer said that a State Department cable that was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal warning about a rapid collapse of Afghanistan’s government after the withdrawal of U.S. forces from the country “reflects what we’ve said all along, which is nobody had this exactly right in predicting the government and army of Afghanistan were going to collapse in a matter of days.”

Finer said, “I’ll let the State Department speak to the details of the dissent cable, but I will mention a few key points. One is that the cable, as I understand it, predicted the potential fall of the Afghan government in the aftermath of a U.S. troop drawdown on August 31. Obviously, that all happened even more quickly than the cable — which was quite concerned about this possibility — projected. The second thing the cable asked for was evacuation flights by the U.S. government of Special Immigrant Visa applicants, Afghans who worked alongside our mission in Afghanistan. They asked for those to begin by August 1. We began those flights in July. And so, look, I think what we’ve said all along is that when we are assessing the situation in Afghanistan, we take a number of inputs. We get intelligence. We get diplomatic reporting from our embassies in the field. We read open-source reporting and watch the reports of our news organizations like CNN and we make the best assessment that we can. And I think the cable reflects what we’ve said all along, which is nobody had this exactly right in predicting the government and army of Afghanistan were going to collapse in a matter of days.”

He added that while “a degree of turbulence” is unavoidable when a country collapses like Afghanistan did, “we had a plan in place for this eventuality.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/19/deputy-nsa-finer-cable-warning-of-afghanistan-collapse-reflects-what-weve-said-that-nobody-got-it-exactly-right/


Antony Blinken Delusional About U.S. Withdrawal Insisting Taliban Takeover ‘Unlikely’ as Jihadis Declared Victory

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was consistently wrong about the outcome of the unconditional withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan, insisting that a Taliban takeover was “highly unlikely” Sunday, as the jihadis swept into Kabul after the collapse of the government.

Blinken was incorrect when he asserted that the unconditional U.S. withdrawal, a concession long sought by the Taliban, would not result in the fall of Afghanistan.

Secretary Blinken assured that the fall of Afghanistan after the departure of U.S.-led NATO troops was a far-fetched notion, even as the Taliban seized territory (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/07/05/afghan-soldiers-flee-tajikistan-taliban/) and U.S. intelligence warnings months before the withdrawal ultimately determined the rapid collapse (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-warned-rapid-afghanistan-collapse-so-why-did-u-s-n1277026) of the Afghan government and military was probable.

Even the State Department’s own intelligence and research division described the failure of the Afghan forces to prevent the Taliban from conquering territory as a red flag, noting that the deteriorating security conditions could result in the collapse of the Kabul government, the New York Times learned (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/us/politics/afghanistan-biden-administration.html) from unnamed Biden administration officials.

Blinken defended Biden’s withdrawal plan to the bitter end. Contradicting his own department’s intelligence, Blinken provided an optimistic assessment even as the Taliban swept into Kabul on Sunday after the collapse of the Afghan government and declared victory. (https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/afghanistan-taliban-declare-victory-after-president-ghani-leaves-kabul-e2-80-94-live-updates/ar-AANkGeY)

“The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely,” Blinken told CNN Sunday.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/19/antony-blinken-delusional-about-u-s-withdrawal-insisting-taliban-takeover-unlikely-as-jihadis-declared-victory/Blinken look as good as anyone to play scapegoat for the Dems.

[jimnyc]

Far too many folks have spoken of talking to, negotiating with or anything to do with the below written terrorists.

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Mark Levin: A Leader Would Tell Taliban ‘You’re Going to Give Us Our People or We’re Going to Crush You’

A true leader wouldn’t negotiate with Taliban terrorists, commentator and “American Marxism” Author Mark Levin said Wednesday.

“When you elect disastrous presidents, you have disastrous consequences,” Levin said in an interview with Fox and Friends, when asked about the news that one of the five terrorists the U.S. released from Gitmo is now a Taliban commander in Afghanistan:


“When you elect disastrous presidents, you have disastrous consequences. Obama released those five, as Obama gave pardon to a number of domestic terrorists. As Clinton gave pardon to a number of domestic terrorists, as Carter gave pardon to a number of domestic terrorists.

“When you show weakness to terrorists and to the enemy, they strike you. And, now, I’m worried about going forward, here. He still won't secure the southern border. That southern border's wide open. Does anybody think our enemies don't know that?”

And, while liberal media claim the U.S. military can just leave Afghanistan, it can’t, because thousands of Americans are trapped there, Levin said:


“And I'm concerned we have thousands of American citizens stuck there. I mean, we have individuals in our country, some on TV, some on radio, who seem to think this is all over, let’s just get the hell out - we can't just get the hell out of there now. We're stuck. We have thousands of Americans there.”

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/mark-levin-leader-would-tell-taliban-youre-going-give-us-our-people-or-were


Defense Secretary: US Military Not Currently Able to Go Beyond Kabul Airport to Rescue People

(CNSNews.com) – The U.S. military does not currently have the capability of extending its presence beyond the perimeters of the Kabul international airport, Defense Secretary Gen. Lloyd Austin said Wednesday when asked about people wanting to leave, being prevented from reaching the facility.

Asked at a briefing about people who “can’t get into the airfield,” Austin said, “We’re going to do everything we can to continue to try to deconflict [coordinate with the Taliban] and create passageways for them to get to the airfield.”

“I don’t have the capability to go out and extend operations currently into Kabul,” he said. “And where do you take that? I mean, how far can you extend into Kabul, you know, and how long does it take to flow those forces in to be able to do that?”

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/defense-secretary-us-military-not-currently-able-go-beyond

[Gunny]

Far too many folks have spoken of talking to, negotiating with or anything to do with the below written terrorists.

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Mark Levin: A Leader Would Tell Taliban ‘You’re Going to Give Us Our People or We’re Going to Crush You’

A true leader wouldn’t negotiate with Taliban terrorists, commentator and “American Marxism” Author Mark Levin said Wednesday.

“When you elect disastrous presidents, you have disastrous consequences,” Levin said in an interview with Fox and Friends, when asked about the news that one of the five terrorists the U.S. released from Gitmo is now a Taliban commander in Afghanistan:



And, while liberal media claim the U.S. military can just leave Afghanistan, it can’t, because thousands of Americans are trapped there, Levin said:



Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/mark-levin-leader-would-tell-taliban-youre-going-give-us-our-people-or-were


Defense Secretary: US Military Not Currently Able to Go Beyond Kabul Airport to Rescue People

(CNSNews.com) – The U.S. military does not currently have the capability of extending its presence beyond the perimeters of the Kabul international airport, Defense Secretary Gen. Lloyd Austin said Wednesday when asked about people wanting to leave, being prevented from reaching the facility.

Asked at a briefing about people who “can’t get into the airfield,” Austin said, “We’re going to do everything we can to continue to try to deconflict [coordinate with the Taliban] and create passageways for them to get to the airfield.”

“I don’t have the capability to go out and extend operations currently into Kabul,” he said. “And where do you take that? I mean, how far can you extend into Kabul, you know, and how long does it take to flow those forces in to be able to do that?”

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/defense-secretary-us-military-not-currently-able-go-beyondI can't find any fault in Levin's idea.

[LongTermGuy]

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[LongTermGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9MUVSsWUAA0hHe?format=jpg&name=small

[Juicer66]

Another Baghdad Bob moment brought to us by CNN:laugh:


Have just noticed that the Merciless and Cruel has become Mr Freakin Nice Guy . Obviously have a teeny weeny bit of difficulty in believing , but --------

So much more attractive and appealing .Sincere congrats .

Am just altering mine to Angel in Disguise or God's Chosen One . Perhaps both .

[Kathianne]

Truth is, at the time she was saying the above, what she was reporting seemed to be pretty spot on. While the known ruthlessness of Taliban was clear from the well planned and executed blitzkrieg accomplished. On the day of the fall of Kabul for the most part thr were driving around smiling, not the usual scowls and shooting off of weapons.

She's given several good reports since:

From inside the airport

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/08/20/cnns-ward-getting-inside-the-kabul-airport-one-of-the-more-harrowing-things-i-have-experienced-n410272

"If this isn't failure, what is?"

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/19/cnn-reporter-in-kabul-if-this-isnt-failure-what-does-failure-look-like-exactly-n410064

She's on the ground, live. Not that many are.

[LongTermGuy]

"Joe..remember what I told you...make me proud and Allah will smile on you"

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[jimnyc]

Have just noticed that the Merciless and Cruel has become Mr Freakin Nice Guy . Obviously have a teeny weeny bit of difficulty in believing , but --------

So much more attractive and appealing .Sincere congrats .

Am just altering mine to Angel in Disguise or God's Chosen One . Perhaps both .

Enough with this crap already, I'm tired of opening threads already and seeing this crap. Thread banned from this thread.

[jimnyc]

One word sums it all up.

More and more, just keeps adding up. And where were all of these people when it came time to vote? And the problem continues to grow.

And some on the left are finally acknowledging as much. While others we know will stand by him until the end, like Pelosi.

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‘Unfit to Lead’: Biden Supporters Enraged After Afghanistan Debacle

As Afghanistan continues its descent into chaos, prominent media figures are beginning to have doubts after supporting President Joe Biden (or at least strongly opposing Trump) during the 2020 election.

In an Instagram post on Thursday, Meghan McCain, former co-host of The View, said she felt “physically ill” over what has happened in Afghanistan and declared that President Biden is “unfit to lead.” Though Meghan McCain has not yet said for whom she cast her vote in the 2020 election, she virulently opposed former President Donald Trump on the basis of character, often spoke fondly of Biden throughout the election cycle, said she felt “relieved” upon Biden’s victory, and supported Trump’s impeachment.

“I have been physically ill, more depressed than I have been since the beginning stages of the pandemic and filled nothing short of pure rage and anger since the calamity of a ‘pull out’ which will be seen as one of the greatest foreign policy catastrophes of my lifetime,” McCain said in her Instagram post on Thursday.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/08/19/unfit-biden-supporters-enraged-afghanistan-debacle/

[Gunny]

Truth is, at the time she was saying the above, what she was reporting seemed to be pretty spot on. While the known ruthlessness of Taliban was clear from the well planned and executed blitzkrieg accomplished. On the day of the fall of Kabul for the most part thr were driving around smiling, not the usual scowls and shooting off of weapons.

She's given several good reports since:

From inside the airport

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/08/20/cnns-ward-getting-inside-the-kabul-airport-one-of-the-more-harrowing-things-i-have-experienced-n410272

"If this isn't failure, what is?"

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/19/cnn-reporter-in-kabul-if-this-isnt-failure-what-does-failure-look-like-exactly-n410064

She's on the ground, live. Not that many are.Should know by now I'm going to try and find some humor somewhere. Smartass quips are how Marines stay sane. Truth is, there is nothing funny going on here.

I take issue with using a woman in this position under the circumstances. All it takes to escalate this into something else is just one of those ragheads to take himself too seriously.

[Gunny]

One word sums it all up.

More and more, just keeps adding up. And where were all of these people when it came time to vote? And the problem continues to grow.

And some on the left are finally acknowledging as much. While others we know will stand by him until the end, like Pelosi.

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‘Unfit to Lead’: Biden Supporters Enraged After Afghanistan Debacle

As Afghanistan continues its descent into chaos, prominent media figures are beginning to have doubts after supporting President Joe Biden (or at least strongly opposing Trump) during the 2020 election.

In an Instagram post on Thursday, Meghan McCain, former co-host of The View, said she felt “physically ill” over what has happened in Afghanistan and declared that President Biden is “unfit to lead.” Though Meghan McCain has not yet said for whom she cast her vote in the 2020 election, she virulently opposed former President Donald Trump on the basis of character, often spoke fondly of Biden throughout the election cycle, said she felt “relieved” upon Biden’s victory, and supported Trump’s impeachment.

“I have been physically ill, more depressed than I have been since the beginning stages of the pandemic and filled nothing short of pure rage and anger since the calamity of a ‘pull out’ which will be seen as one of the greatest foreign policy catastrophes of my lifetime,” McCain said in her Instagram post on Thursday.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/08/19/unfit-biden-supporters-enraged-afghanistan-debacle/Hard to put all other things aside; however, Biden is unfit as Commander in Chief.

Not just him. Field commanders can get away with a lot because they are "on the ground, real time". When they aren't thinking solely about their military careers and focus on doing what's right.

[jimnyc]

I hope things aren't as bad as I think they are.

A choice between a brain failing Biden - or him being tossed/removed and in comes Harris.

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President Biden, It's Time to End the Vacation

Things are really bad right now in Afghanistan—but administration officials need to understand that things could get a lot worse, fast.

So far, Joe Biden has been missing in action, spending most of the crisis holed up in Camp David and Delaware. As the president now knows, inaction comes with a cost.

It’s time to end the vacation.

With maximum urgency, the Biden administration must pursue three simple goals to keep this disaster from spiraling into catastrophe.

The first and most pressing is safely getting every American out of Afghanistan.

The Biden administration is currently telling stranded Americans that “the U.S. Government cannot guarantee your security” while traveling to the Kabul airport. Have they forgotten they control the most powerful military in the world? Joe Biden isn’t incapable of protecting Americans in Kabul—he’s just unwilling.

If that sounds like a harsh assessment, consider the fact that the Biden administration isn’t even prioritizing Americans ahead of noncitizens for flights out of Afghanistan. The Biden administration is evacuating applicants to the Special Immigration Visa program, who haven’t even been approved yet, with the same urgency as U.S. citizens. This is a travesty and must change.

Rest - https://townhall.com/capitol-voices/congressmanjimbanks/2021/08/20/president-biden-its-time-to-end-the-vacation-n2594473

[Gunny]

I hope things aren't as bad as I think they are.

A choice between a brain failing Biden - or him being tossed/removed and in comes Harris.

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President Biden, It's Time to End the Vacation

Things are really bad right now in Afghanistan—but administration officials need to understand that things could get a lot worse, fast.

So far, Joe Biden has been missing in action, spending most of the crisis holed up in Camp David and Delaware. As the president now knows, inaction comes with a cost.

It’s time to end the vacation.

With maximum urgency, the Biden administration must pursue three simple goals to keep this disaster from spiraling into catastrophe.

The first and most pressing is safely getting every American out of Afghanistan.

The Biden administration is currently telling stranded Americans that “the U.S. Government cannot guarantee your security” while traveling to the Kabul airport. Have they forgotten they control the most powerful military in the world? Joe Biden isn’t incapable of protecting Americans in Kabul—he’s just unwilling.

If that sounds like a harsh assessment, consider the fact that the Biden administration isn’t even prioritizing Americans ahead of noncitizens for flights out of Afghanistan. The Biden administration is evacuating applicants to the Special Immigration Visa program, who haven’t even been approved yet, with the same urgency as U.S. citizens. This is a travesty and must change.

Rest - https://townhall.com/capitol-voices/congressmanjimbanks/2021/08/20/president-biden-its-time-to-end-the-vacation-n2594473Agree.

[jimnyc]

I said that if he were to get elected, that others would be pulling his dumb strings from behind the scenes and in different directions. That's what we're seeing thus far and now will grow worse.

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Majority Say Biden Not Up to Job, Others Making Decisions for Him

A majority of voters say His Fraudulency Joe Biden lacks the physical mental capacity to be president and that others are making key White House decisions for him.

While the bottom hasn’t yet fallen out of Joe Biden’s polling numbers, his approval has taken a serious tumble over the last six days of his ongoing catastrophe in Afghanistan. And nothing on the horizon looks like it could turn things around.

Thanks to Biden’s heartless incompetence, thousands of Americans remain trapped behind enemy lines in Afghanistan, as do tens of thousands of our Afghan allies. Moreover, the situation is, if anything, rapidly deteriorating as the jihadist Taliban terrorists tighten their grip on a country they now control and seize tens of billions of dollars in operational war equipment that Biden left behind.

And now America is discovering that Biden had months and months to plan and ensure neither Americans nor our allies nor our war equipment were abandoned to the same monsters who aided and abetted the 9/11 terrorists. And he’s not only blowing it; he’s blowing it while hiding out on vacation.

Biden has two major problems now. The first is that the country now knows he’s incompetent, and not just with foreign policy. There’s also the economic, China Flu energy, and the southern border crises. The second problem is that as these crises mount, he is increasingly in hiding, confused, or generating bizarre outbursts. In other words, his deteriorating mental condition can no longer be hidden or ignored. And now the polls are starting to reflect that.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/nolte-majority-say-biden-not-up-job-others-making-decisions-him/

[Gunny]

I said that if he were to get elected, that others would be pulling his dumb strings from behind the scenes and in different directions. That's what we're seeing thus far and now will grow worse.

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Majority Say Biden Not Up to Job, Others Making Decisions for Him

A majority of voters say His Fraudulency Joe Biden lacks the physical mental capacity to be president and that others are making key White House decisions for him.

While the bottom hasn’t yet fallen out of Joe Biden’s polling numbers, his approval has taken a serious tumble over the last six days of his ongoing catastrophe in Afghanistan. And nothing on the horizon looks like it could turn things around.

Thanks to Biden’s heartless incompetence, thousands of Americans remain trapped behind enemy lines in Afghanistan, as do tens of thousands of our Afghan allies. Moreover, the situation is, if anything, rapidly deteriorating as the jihadist Taliban terrorists tighten their grip on a country they now control and seize tens of billions of dollars in operational war equipment that Biden left behind.

And now America is discovering that Biden had months and months to plan and ensure neither Americans nor our allies nor our war equipment were abandoned to the same monsters who aided and abetted the 9/11 terrorists. And he’s not only blowing it; he’s blowing it while hiding out on vacation.

Biden has two major problems now. The first is that the country now knows he’s incompetent, and not just with foreign policy. There’s also the economic, China Flu energy, and the southern border crises. The second problem is that as these crises mount, he is increasingly in hiding, confused, or generating bizarre outbursts. In other words, his deteriorating mental condition can no longer be hidden or ignored. And now the polls are starting to reflect that.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/nolte-majority-say-biden-not-up-job-others-making-decisions-him/I "love" dumb people. Just snapped to the fact that they think Biden is not making decisions and others are?

I would point out to these suddenly enlightened folk that the "others" allegedly making the decisions are unfit to lead as well.

And you know ... come to think of it, I can see this as Harris's "leadership". It's about what I would expect from her.

Ousting those two is not an option. That would leave Pelosi as President.

[jimnyc]

This all has to sting a little.

Even worse than advertised - and then add in the whole cognitive failure on top.

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Fmr WH Doc GOP Rep. Jackson: Biden No Longer ‘Cognitively Prepared’ to Be President, Needs to Resign

Representative Ronny Jackson (R-TX), formerly the White House physician, said Friday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends First” that President Joe Biden is no longer “cognitively prepared” to be president, so he should resign.

Jackson said, “We’re looking horrible right now on the world stage. This is an absolute national embarrassment. And instead of being out in front of this and talking about what’s going on, and what went wrong, and what the plan was, and what we’re gonna do next, Biden’s just been in hiding again, as he always has. And it’s just. It’s totally inspired. It hasn’t inspired any confidence in our allies. As a matter of fact, all of our allies are very upset with this. As of today, you know, the Brits, the Germans, the French, they’re very upset with us for pulling out, and we didn’t really even give them any heads up. We put them in a bad position too. They have people stuck in Afghanistan now that they’re having to try to get out.”

He continued, “So this is a horrible situation for this country. Biden, once again, has failed us. He’s embarrassed as internationally. And you know, honestly, it is time for him to leave. I’ve been saying this for a long time. I’ve been saying that he’s not. He’s not cognitively prepared to be our president. And this is just another example of his failure. And I think a lot of this is relevant to his cognitive ability. But he’s — he’s created a national security disaster for this country right now. And it’s time for him to move on, and somebody else needs to do this job. He is not fit to be our commander in chief. It’s time for him to resign.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/20/fmr-wh-doc-gop-rep-jackson-biden-no-longer-cognitively-prepared-to-be-president-needs-to-resign/


Ron DeSantis Slams Biden for ‘Lack of Leadership’ on Afghanistan, U.S. Border, Economy

Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis spoke Thursday at the opening of another monoclonal antibody therapy facility to treat people who have coronavirus, slamming President Joe Biden for his “lack of leadership” on multiple fronts, including “gifting” military equipment to terrorists in Afghanistan.

The Florida Politics website reported on DeSantis’s remarks. He said:


You look around the country, you look around the world right now. I mean, we have Americans that are just being hung out to dry in Afghanistan. We’ve got billions of dollars of military equipment that’s just basically being gifted to terrorist groups. Things that the taxpayers paid for. Things that our men and women used.

DeSantis also mentioned the porous U.S. border with Mexico, where thousands of people have been crossing in the country.

“You look at the border,” DeSantis said. “People just pouring in. They don’t even tell you where they’re bringing these people in. We figured out they dump people in Jacksonville and some of these other places. It’s totally out of control. We’ve never seen anything like what we’re seeing now.”

And DeSantis criticized Biden’s handling of the economy.

“You look at inflation,” DeSantis said. “The prices are going out of control, particularly gas prices, that’s putting a huge hamper on working people, having to pay so much when they’re going to get gas.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/desantis-biden-afghanistan-border/


Graham: Biden ‘Deserves to Be Impeached’ if Americans Are Left in Afghanistan — Has Been a Foreign Policy ‘Wrecking Ball’ for 40 Years

Friday on FNC’s “Fox & Friends,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) suggested that President Joe Biden should be “impeached” if an American citizen and Afghan allies are left behind in Afghanistan amid the Taliban’s takeover.

Graham said Biden “has been a wrecking ball regarding foreign policy, national security for 40 years.” He argued that leaving behind a single American citizen or any allies from Afghanistan who have helped the United States would be an impeachable offense.

“We are duty-bound to get every American citizen out. We’re honor-bound to get those Afghans who fought along our side out. And here’s what I would say: If we leave any Americans behind, if we leave thousands of those Afghans who fought along our side behind, bravely, Joe Biden deserves to be impeached for a higher crime and misdemeanor of dereliction of duty,” Graham emphasized. “If we leave one American behind, if we don’t get all those … Afghans who stepped up to the plate and helped us out, then Joe Biden, in my view, has committed a higher crime and misdemeanor under the Constitution and should be impeached.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/20/graham-biden-deserves-to-be-impeached-if-americans-are-left-in-afghanistan-has-been-a-foreign-policy-wrecking-ball-for-40-years/

[jimnyc]

Wait, wait, wait.... are they hinting at, saying that there are lies taking place?

Never!!

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'Shocked': CNN Correspondent Says Reality At Kabul Airport Is Starkly Different Than Messaging Coming From White House, Pentagon

The airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, is pure chaos and evacuation flights haven’t taken off in hours, CNN’s chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward told the network Friday.

Ward, speaking live from Afghanistan, detailed scenes from the airport in Kabul, where swarms of people are desperately trying to get through the gates in the hopes of catching a flight out of the country. Ward said she and her team had been at the airport for 12 hours “and on the inner field for eight hours” before pushing back on how the administration is speaking about the situation.

“During the last eight hours, the time that we’ve been waiting here, we have not seen a single U.S. flight evacuate people,” Ward reported. “And so one U.S. flight took off about half an hour to an hour ago, but it was filled with U.S. servicemen and women. The people who have been sitting on the tarmac for the last ten hours have not been able to get on a flight.”

The CNN correspondent also highlighted how the reality in Kabul differs greatly from the “talking points” Americans are hearing from the Pentagon and the White House. She said the scene on the ground “shocked her,” in part because officials have been offering up different comments on the situation.

“Listening to the talking points that I was hearing from the Pentagon and the White House, I thought this whole thing was moving along swimmingly now,” she said. “And yet here I am, 12 hours later, and I haven’t seen a plane take off in eight hours. And I’m watching children coming up to me and saying, ‘please could you get me some food.’ So, it is clearly not working and one can only hope – I get it, it is really mammoth, gargantuan task and it is not for me to sit on the sidelines and criticize without understanding the enormity of the undertaking – but I come back to the point where did it have to be this way and try to evacuate 60,000 people in a few days with the Taliban providing protection for that operation?”

Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/20/cnn-clarissa-ward-kabul-airport-white-house/

[jimnyc]

Nothing anyone does going forward, as of a few years ago, simply no longer surprises me.

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Western nations coordinating to block Taliban recognition

U.S. would “certainly not” recognize any Taliban government breaching human rights, says U.N. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield.

The U.S government believes the Taliban wants international recognition, but the message from Washington and other democratic governments is: we don’t trust you — so show us you’re worth it.

While G-7 governments insist there is no formal request yet to recognize the Taliban’s grip on Afghanistan, preliminary conversations are underway, focused on ensuring allies and neighboring countries, including Pakistan, hold off from bilateral recognition of the insurgent group.

The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 until 2001 when a U.S.-led military coalition overthrew the regime following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Just three countries — Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates — recognized the regime before it was removed.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement late Thursday that he and his counterparts from the G-7 and the European Union “agreed that the international community’s relationship with the Taliban will depend on their actions, not their words.”

NATO foreign ministers issued a similar statement after meeting on Friday. "We call on all parties in Afghanistan to work in good faith to establish an inclusive and representative government, including with the meaningful participation of women and minority groups," the statement said. The organization added that "under the current circumstances, NATO has suspended all support to the Afghan authorities." Their decision follow the International Monetary Fund blocking release of $450 million in funds that were scheduled to be sent to Afghanistan next week.

U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the British Parliament this week that allies and Pakistan agree “it would be a mistake for any country to recognize any new regime in Kabul prematurely or bilaterally.”

Rest - https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/20/us-allies-taliban-un-linda-thomas-greenfield-506380


Boris Johnson Says UK Will Work With Taliban If Necessary

London: Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Friday Britain would work with the Taliban if necessary after the militants capture of Afghanistan, and defended his foreign minister who has come under fire for his handling of the situation.
"What I want to assure people is that our political and diplomatic efforts to find a solution for Afghanistan, working with the Taliban, of course if necessary, will go on," Johnson told media.

Johnson said the situation at Kabul airport, where thousands of desperate Afghans have thronged seeking exodus from the country, was getting "slightly better".

The British government said it had secured the evacuation of 1,615 people since Saturday, including 399 British nationals and their dependants, 320 embassy staff and 402 Afghans.

Rest - https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/boris-johnson-says-uk-will-work-with-taliban-if-necessary-2515245

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/british-pm-boris-johnson-says-uk-will-work-with-taliban-if-necessary/articleshow/85494939.cms

[Gunny]

At this point, who gives a crap what the US Government has to say?

[icansayit]

Osama knew NOBODY could win a war in Afghanistan. Even he knew he couldn't.

Afghanistan is a GOD AWFUL place that CHINA really wants for themselves. So they will happily cooperate with the TALIBAN...but ENGLAND is making a huge mistake.
The TALIBAN will easily cut off BRITTISH heads to protect China's interest in LITHIUM for batteries.
Just watch.

https://www.history.com/news/why-its-so-difficult-to-win-a-war-in-afghanistan
Afghanistan has been the center of competing foreign powers for a long time. Between 1839 and 1919, the British fought threewars in Afghanistan, each lasting no more than a few months or years (although the last war was more like a skirmish). During the first two wars, the British Empire wanted to secure the country against Russia’s influence, says Shah Mahmoud Hanifi, a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian history at James Madison University. During the third, it wanted to secure Afghanistan against the Ottoman Empire.

[jimnyc]

I wasn't one who forgot 9/11, 2001 or all of the critters involved.

And I won't forget everything going on yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Nor all of these shitheads allowing everything to happen.

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Biden Is Betting Americans Will Forget About Afghanistan

Call it the white house’s dream scenario: In the end, the voters don’t blame Joe Biden. The president’s withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan simply aligns him with everyone else who has given up on the notion that the military could mold a fractious country into a stable democratic ally. The administration is hoping that grisly images of desperate Afghans clinging to a C-17 fade, replaced by collective relief that no more Americans will die in a murky, brutal war that spanned two decades and four presidencies.

Despite the Taliban’s rapid takeover of Afghanistan, White House officials and people close to Biden don’t foresee his decision hurting Democrats in next year’s midterm elections, nor in the presidential race that follows. Their argument is that the nation should be reassured that a president who vowed during the 2020 campaign to end “forever wars” made good on the promise.

Will it work? Biden’s allies are betting so.

“A big majority of the American people want us out of Afghanistan,” Ted Kaufman, a Biden confidant since the 1970s and a former Democratic senator from Delaware, told me this week. “And that will be a key message—the key point for the American people is our troops are out,” he said. “It’s fine for us to sit in Washington and talk about what’s wrong in Afghanistan. We’re not bearing the brunt of this war. It’s another thing if you have a son or daughter or father over there.”

Biden’s handling of the biggest foreign-policy crisis on his watch to date is unfolding on two tracks: short- and long-term. In recent days, the White House has privately sent talking points to supporters that sought to blunt the ferocious backlash over the Taliban victory by deflecting responsibility onto a useful target. On his way out the door, Donald Trump left Biden with two bad choices: “indefinite war in Afghanistan” or a troop drawdown and potential Taliban victory, a White House communications aide wrote in an email obtained by The Atlantic. That binary formulation ignores all the other options that were open to Biden: at minimum, leaving sufficient troops in place so that a fleeing Afghan didn’t perish inside the wheel well of a departing plane. Not all Democratic partisans are sold on the idea that Trump boxed in Biden when he negotiated a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan set for this spring. After taking office, Biden quickly recommitted to the Paris climate accord and the Iranian nuclear deal that Trump had abandoned. “This one they chose not to reverse,” Donna Brazile, a former Democratic National Committee chair, told me. “If you don’t reverse it, you own it.”

Rest - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-midterms/619838/


I Remember the Taliban. They Have Not Changed

I remember the day the Taliban first took over Kabul in 1996. I remember being a scared little girl in the Taliban's Afghanistan. I remember the dangling feet of the men murdered at our apartment building, unable to grasp what it all meant as a child. I remember living in fear. The bombs. The rockets. The loss of hope. The Taliban forbid women from working and girls from attending school; they stripped women of all basic human rights.

I remember the moment my mother opened a letter and choked back tears as she told my three siblings and I, "We are going to America!" The clothes on our backs, our ID cards and $50 my mother had after selling her wedding band were all we could take as we set off to a new and foreign land.

My father was a surgeon in the Afghan army and refused to flee the war as his services were desperately needed. Sadly, my father's life was tragically cut short; a shrapnel pierced through the back of his head severing his vertebral artery. Without any medical care during a war, he was left to bleed out in front of his young wife and four children. This tragedy left my mother to be the main provider of our household, though life became even more intolerable when the Taliban took over the country as they imposed atrociously strict and inhumane laws.

The Taliban deemed women's education both legally unlawful and spiritually sinful. My future would have been disappointingly bleak had it not been for my mother. She defied the Taliban and put her life at risk. In our basement, she educated young Afghan girls like me.

Rest - https://www.newsweek.com/i-remember-taliban-they-have-not-changed-opinion-1621612

[jimnyc]

‘Why Do You Continue to Trust the Taliban, Mr. President?’ Biden Leaves Presser to Chorus of Shouted Questions

For the first time since the fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban, President Joe Biden fielded questions from the White House press corps. But many of the correspondents did not seem satisfied with the fact that only five reporters were called on.

The news conference came to a halt after approximately 30 minutes in all. The president delivered a brief statement, then selected reporters from five outlets for questions — the AP, ABC, Bloomberg, PBS and NPR. Among those snubbed on Friday were frequent sparring partner Kaitlan Collins of CNN, and Fox News — most often represented by Peter Doocy.

With the somewhat abrupt finish to the news conference, many in the press corps were left unfulfilled, and shouted after the president in an effort to get him to answer one or two more.

“Why do you continue to trust the Taliban, Mr. President?” one reporter yelled out.

Biden, for his part, did not explicitly say at any point in the news conference that he trusted the Taliban. He did say, at one point, with regards to the evacuation efforts, “We’ve been in constant contact with the Taliban leadership on the ground in Kabul … we have been coordinating what we’re doing.”

“One more question, Mr. President please,” another reporter shouted.

But the request went for naught. Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken all quickly disappeared.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/why-do-you-continue-to-trust-the-taliban-mr-president-biden-leaves-presser-to-chorus-of-shouted-questions/

[jimnyc]

Sure, that's what they told you, huh Joe? :rolleyes:

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Biden to nation: I've seen no 'questioning of our conduct by allies'

'This is about America leading the world and our allies have agreed with that'

Amid sharp bipartisan criticism at home and abroad for his handling of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Biden told the nation in a live address Friday he will "mobilize every resource necessary" to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies and ensure "that every American who wants to leave can get to the airport."

"There will be plenty of time to criticize and second guess when this operation is over, but now I'm focused on getting this job done," he said.

Answering a question from a pre-selected reporter, Biden insisted his has "seen no questioning of our conduct by allies."

"As a matter of fact I've got the exact opposite, (that we have been) acting with dispatch and doing what we said we'd do," he said.

Strong rebukes, however, have come openly from allies Britian, Germany and others, charging NATO partners were left in the dark as a "catastrophe" developed.

Rest - https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/4939686/


Biden administration was warned last month of Afghanistan 'catastrophe'

Cable from Kabul urged evacuation of all Americans beginning Aug. 1

Conflicting with President Biden's insistence that he had no intelligence indicating Kabul would quickly fall upon the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken received a cable in July urging that evacuations be accelerated because the Taliban was quickly gaining ground and the capital was vulnerable to collapse.

The Wall Street Journal reported the July 13 confidential memo (https://www.wsj.com/articles/confidential-state-department-cable-in-july-warned-of-afghanistans-collapse-11629406993?mod=hp_lead_pos7), signed by 23 staffers at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, urged the administration to begin evacuating people from the country no later than Aug. 1.

President Biden claimed in an interview with ABC News released Thursday he was never informed that a rapid collapse was possible. He told reporters on July 8 it was "highly unlikely" the Taliban would take control of Afghanistan.

The State Department memo, the Wall Street Journal said, also urged the administration government to begin collecting information for Afghan allies who worked with U.S. forces and qualified for Special Immigrant Visas.

The Journal reported a person familiar with the matter said Blinken reviewed the cable.

Disputing Biden's claim, former CIA analyst Douglas London said the agency had assessed that a rapid collapse was possible. And the information was briefed to Biden and Trump officials.

"Ultimately, it was assessed, Afghan forces might capitulate under the circumstances we witnessed, in projections highlighted to Trump officials and future Biden officials alike," London wrote on the Just Security website.

Rest - https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/biden-administration-warned-last-month-afghanistan-catastrophe/

[fj1200]

They were essentially recognized when we started negotiating with them.

[icansayit]

They were essentially recognized when we started negotiating with them.

How else would YOU...of all people, suggest negotiations if The Negotiators don't recognize them?

[jimnyc]

Chaos in Afghanistan.

Must be scary as hell if one is an American and still over there. :dunno:

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Bumbling Contradiction: Joe Biden Promises Every American in Afghanistan Will Get Home but Cannot Guarantee Safety

President Joe Biden tried on Friday to reassure Americans remaining in Afghanistan that he would get them home to the United States but also admitted he could not guarantee the mission would be a success.

“Let me be clear, any American who wants to come home, we will get you home,” he said during a speech at the White House.

But he also warned of the risks and the danger involved with the evacuation process.

“I cannot promise what the final outcome will be, or that it will be without risk of loss, but as commander-in-chief, I can assure you that I will use every resource necessary,” he said.

Biden boasted of the size of the airlift operation and its purpose.

“This is one of the largest, most difficult airlifts in history,” Biden said, noting that “only” the United States could successfully evacuate so many people out of Afghanistan.

Biden also walked back his assertion that he would allow American troops to remain in Afghanistan beyond the August 31 deadline to ensure all Americans were evacuated.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/joe-biden-american-afghanistan/


Joe Biden Delays Weekend Vacation After Backlash over Afghanistan

President Joe Biden delayed his plans to resume his August vacation at his home in Wilmington, Delaware, Friday as Americans are still struggling to find a way out of Afghanistan.

The president was scheduled to leave for the weekend at 2:05 p.m. Friday afternoon after a 1:00 p.m. speech about the crisis in Afghanistan and what his administration is doing to evacuate American citizens and Afghanistan allies out of the country.

But the political backlash was fierce, eventually prompting a schedule update.

Just before noon, a White House official informed reporters the president will not travel to Wilmington tonight and will remain at the White House instead.

It is still possible that the president could leave on Saturday for Delaware.

Biden has stubbornly pursued his August vacation plans, taking nine Marine One helicopter flights in just 18 days, jumping between his home in Wilmington, the Camp David presidential retreat, and the White House.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/joe-biden-delays-weekend-vacation-backlash-afghanistan/


Joe Biden Literally Says ‘Knock on Wood’ to Describe Afghanistan Evacuation Strategy

President Joe Biden detailed his strategy to get Americans, Afghan allies, and refugees out of Afghanistan on Friday but caveated with “knock on wood” — a superstitious idiom expressing uncertainty about one’s fortunes.

“What we’ve done so far is been able to get a large number of Americans out, all our personnel at the embassy out, and so on,” Biden said. “And thank God, so far, knock on wood, we’re in a different position.”

The president tried to reassure Americans in Afghanistan that they would get airlifted out of the country, boasting that only the United States could handle the logistics required to do so.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/joe-biden-literally-says-knock-on-wood-to-describe-afghanistan-evacuation-strategy/


‘Americans Beaten,’ One-Year-Old Tear Gassed in Kabul Chaos

Multiple reports surfacing on Friday claim Taliban forces are reportedly assaulting Western citizens, including Americans, as they attempt to reach the Kabul airport for evacuation, in addition to violently preventing Afghans with appropriate travel papers from escaping.

https://i.imgur.com/0AoNYko.png

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin confirmed reports of beatings of U.S. citizens at the Taliban’s hand on Friday, calling it “unacceptable.”

The UK Guardian reported on Thursday that Australian citizens were “beaten, hit with weapons and whipped by Taliban militants when they presented their documents and insisted there were flights waiting for them.”

Taliban forces reportedly repeatedly rejected one man’s Australian passport, insisting it was “fake” or invalid. The Associated Press suggested “many of the Taliban fighters could not read the documents” they were rejecting.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/20/report-americans-beaten-one-year-old-tear-gassed-in-kabul-chaos/


Marsha Blackburn: Biden Lied About Americans Able to Enter the Airport in Kabul

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) on Friday said President Biden lied when he claimed there is “no circumstance” of Americans being unable to access the Kabul airport, explaining her office has received reports indicating otherwise.

“Joe Biden said there is ‘no circumstance’ where Americans have been blocked from the Kabul airport. This is a lie. My office has received reports of Americans unable to enter the airport,” she said, adding that her team has alerted the State Department but that “nothing has been done about it”:

https://i.imgur.com/vHBYYgf.png

“We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport,” Biden said during Friday’s press conference. “We made an agreement with the Taliban thus far. They have allowed them to go through.”

“So we know of no circumstance where American citizens carrying an American passport are trying to get through to the airport,” he continued. “But we will do whatever needs to be done to see to it they get to the airport.”

During the speech, Biden said his administration remained in “constant contact with the Taliban working to ensure civilians have safe passage to the airport.”

“We’ve been able – we made – look. We made clear to the Taliban that any attack — any attack — on our forces or disruption of our operations at the airport will be met with swift and forceful response,” Biden continued.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/20/marsha-blackburn-biden-lied-about-americans-able-to-enter-the-airport-in-kabul/

[fj1200]

How else would YOU...of all people, suggest negotiations if The Negotiators don't recognize them?

I'm really not sure why you're all of a sudden trying to catch me in something. But it's not really me who you should be asking. I've been told that we shouldn't recognize terrorist organizations let along negotiate with them. But I've also been informed that the trump administration negotiated with them. Of course you can't negotiate with someone you don't recognize.

[icansayit]

I'm really not sure why you're all of a sudden trying to catch me in something. But it's not really me who you should be asking. I've been told that we shouldn't recognize terrorist organizations let along negotiate with them. But I've also been informed that the trump administration negotiated with them. Of course you can't negotiate with someone you don't recognize.


Rhetoric...word games. Outsmart the other guy with meanings, definitions and patronizing. That's how I see you playing almost everything here.
As for Trump negotiating. At least when he did it. He had the backing and control enough to let the TALIBAN know...HE MEANT BUSINESS. Unlike Sleepy the Appeaser, and Mindless Phony.

[jimnyc]

He just says anything. And is he lying or is he just that delusional.

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‘Excuse Me Sir, What?’ Biden Denounced on Twitter for Saying There’s ‘No Indication’ Taliban are Stopping Americans from Escaping

President Joe Biden faced stark criticism from pundits following his press briefing on Afghanistan, many reporters slamming his claim that Americans are not struggling to leave the country.

“We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport. We’ve made an agreement with the Taliban. Thus far they’ve allowed them to go through. It’s in their interest to let them go through,” he said on Friday, adding that the Taliban are “letting through people showing American passport.”

While Biden has resumed the temporarily paused flights leaving Afghanistan, the claim that there is “no indication” that Americans have difficulties leaving the country does not match chaotic scenes at the Kabul airport.

CNN’s Clarissa Ward, who has been on the ground in Afghanistan, fact-checked Biden’s assertion on air, saying it’s been “very difficult” for Americans to access the airport.

Ward’s previous reporting at the scene has also highlighted how dangerous and difficult it has been for those with visas and green cards to get into the airport and evacuate.

Talking heads on Twitter were quick to decry the claim, some also faulting him for maintaining that he has not seen any criticism from American allies, despite clear critiques from world leaders.

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Rest - https://www.mediaite.com/biden/excuse-me-sir-what-biden-denounced-on-twitter-for-saying-theres-no-indication-taliban-are-stopping-americans-from-escaping/

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

He just says anything. And is he lying or is he just that delusional.

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‘Excuse Me Sir, What?’ Biden Denounced on Twitter for Saying There’s ‘No Indication’ Taliban are Stopping Americans from Escaping

President Joe Biden faced stark criticism from pundits following his press briefing on Afghanistan, many reporters slamming his claim that Americans are not struggling to leave the country.

“We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport. We’ve made an agreement with the Taliban. Thus far they’ve allowed them to go through. It’s in their interest to let them go through,” he said on Friday, adding that the Taliban are “letting through people showing American passport.”

While Biden has resumed the temporarily paused flights leaving Afghanistan, the claim that there is “no indication” that Americans have difficulties leaving the country does not match chaotic scenes at the Kabul airport.

CNN’s Clarissa Ward, who has been on the ground in Afghanistan, fact-checked Biden’s assertion on air, saying it’s been “very difficult” for Americans to access the airport.

Ward’s previous reporting at the scene has also highlighted how dangerous and difficult it has been for those with visas and green cards to get into the airport and evacuate.

Talking heads on Twitter were quick to decry the claim, some also faulting him for maintaining that he has not seen any criticism from American allies, despite clear critiques from world leaders.

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https://i.imgur.com/vAT9pRD.png

Rest - https://www.mediaite.com/biden/excuse-me-sir-what-biden-denounced-on-twitter-for-saying-theres-no-indication-taliban-are-stopping-americans-from-escaping/

Moran should have stopped right at this point in the comment-
"The President said he has no intelligence".....:laugh:
and he'd been dead on target--both Biden and Moran...

[jimnyc]

Yet more...

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The Jig is Up! Majority of Voters Say Biden is ‘Mentally & Physically’ Incapable to be President; 51% Believe Others are Making Decisions for Him

According to a new poll this week, a majority of voters are now saying that Joe Biden doesn’t have the mental or physical capacity to be President, and believe the White House is actually being run by others who make key decisions for him.

Biden’s approval numbers have been plummeting for weeks, but they have taken a nosedive ever since his endless incompetence sparked another global crisis in Afghanistan. Millions are expected to flee the terrorist-controlled state and thousands of American citizens remain trapped in the country with no way to get to their evacuation flights.

The worst thing of it all, Biden’s State Department is telling US troops to stand down and not join rescue efforts by other western forces. Instead, they are relying on the Taliban to allow Americans to have safe passage through checkpoints on their way to the airport.

He has essentially told them ‘you’re on your own.’

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/jig-majority-voters-say-biden-mentally-51-believe-others-making-decisions/

[Russ]

I hate to say this, but Biden does have one legit point: The President did flee and the troops abandon their equipment and run. I don't think many of us even considered that happening. I didn't. That IS f-d up.

I have to disagree, Gunny. Yes, the President fled and the troops dropped their equipment and ran, but I don't think Biden has a legit point. By that time, Biden already royally f***ed up the withdrawal by having all Americans at the airport fly away in the middle of the night without preparing the Afghans or preparing them in any way.

How do prepare someone to do something? You tell them how to do it, you have an apprentice period where they watch you do it, and then you have a startup period where you watch while they do it. Joe skipped the second two steps.

I consider Joe Biden to have no valid argument about anything, to be a completely worthless f***up, and to be completely unfit to be President, Vice President, Senator, or Assistant Mens Room Attendant.

[jimnyc]

I honestly think he's lying non-stop and is also incompetent. And recognizing the Taliban as legitimate?

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Pentagon Confirms Biden's Either Lying to the American People or Incompetent

Just minutes after President Biden failed to offer any real explanation for why things have gone sideways in Afghanistan amid the U.S. withdrawal, Pentagon officials proved that much of what Biden told the American people was untrue. That or Biden is entirely unaware of critical information regarding what's going on in the world.

Despite standing at the President's side while Biden declared "we know of no circumstance where American citizens, carrying an American passport" have had trouble getting to Hamid Karzai International Airport, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin reportedly told members of the House of Representatives that Americans are in fact being beaten by the Taliban in Kabul.

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Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2021/08/20/bidens-pentagon-just-confirmed-hes-lying-n2594475


Leaked Memo Shows Why So Many European Allies Are Pissed At Biden Over Afghanistan

Drip. Drip. Drip. With every passing hour, we have more damning evidence that the Biden administration simply didn’t care about the conditions on the ground in Afghanistan which has led to this frenetic and ignominious exit from the country. Our longest war is over. We lost. But not before Joe Biden decided to do his rendition of the Fall of Saigon as a bookend to this conflict. On July 8, he promised that the Afghan government could sustain itself. Five days later, a State Department memo painted a vastly different picture. Biden apparently ignored it. We’re now dealing with the Taliban in control and 10-15,000 Americans trapped in the country. We have no plans to get them out other than wish them well on the way to the airport in Kabul that’s littered with Taliban checkpoints. We’re trusting a terror organization with not harming our citizens. That’s Biden diplomacy. Kabul is the only place where those who seek to flee can go and pray to get on a chartered flight out of the country.

Biden did give another address about the situation, but it was a lie. This chaotic exit does kill our credibility. Our allies are infuriated and for good reason: we kept them in the dark. Well, Biden did. United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson tried to reach Biden for hours. He ignored him for over 36 hours. And now we know why members of NATO are so mad at Biden. He totally lied to them. In June, he promised them that US forces would remain to keep the situation stable in Afghanistan as NATO withdrew its forces. The UK thought they could keep their embassy open as a result. Well, flashforward to August and it’s the wasteland from Mad Max.

Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/08/20/diplomacy-is-back-leaked-memo-shows-biden-promised-nato-allies-that-us-forces-wo-n2594497


Nikki Haley Has a Warning For Biden on Recognizing Taliban as Legitimate

In the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan, the Biden administration has not yet confirmed outright that the Taliban should not be recognized as the legitimate government of Afghanistan. Former Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, had a stark warning for President Joe Biden and his administration on the dangers of recognizing the Taliban as legitimate.

“We must not give the Taliban the legitimacy of American recognition or aid. It is not a legitimate government, and no amount of embrace from China and Russia will make it so. We must also stop the Taliban from taking the Afghan seat at the United Nations,” Haley wrote on Twitter.

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Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2021/08/20/nikki-haley-has-a-warning-for-biden-on-recognizing-taliban-as-legitimate-n2594491

[LongTermGuy]

Question...What kind of dummy leaves billions of dollars in American weaponry to a country that

chants Death to America??

BTW...CNN is now criticizing Joe Biden’s Afghanistan disaster more than the Republican Party...The
GOP has completely failed to capitalize on Biden’s Afghanistan disaster.

...If that were Trump...there would be professionally produced viral videos and TV commercials running nonstop!!

[jimnyc]

Biden keeps digging hole deeper on his disastrous evacuation of Afghanistan

After a disastrous week, President Biden tried Friday to clean up the mess surrounding his decision to withdraw from Afghanistan. He aimed to be all things he hasn’t been — clear, resolute and compassionate.

Strike one, strike two, strike three.

Biden didn’t just fail. He made everything worse. His lies, contradictions and occasional incoherence must be ringing alarm bells across the United States and among our allies around the world.

For our adversaries, Biden is a gift that keeps on giving.

This was his third speech in the last five days on the unfolding crisis in Kabul, and the president should bring a shovel to the next one. It would be an appropriate prop for a man who is determined to dig himself deeper into the hole every time he opens his mouth.

As it is, the props he used — Vice President Kamala Harris, Secretary of State Tony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin — were worse than useless. The silly masks they wore made them look as if they were trying to hide their faces in embarrassment.

You couldn’t blame them — except they all share in the responsibility for this epic failure.

Even before we know the final outcome, the terrifying chaos so many Americans face in Kabul and our government’s dependence on the kindness of bloodthirsty terrorists mark this as a singularly humiliating experience for the world’s greatest superpower.

Before Friday, the Afghan calamity had been likened to previous low points in modern American history. They include the unforgettable images of the desperate departure from Saigon, the long hostage drama in Iran, the “Black Hawk Down” debacle in Somalia and even the Bay of Pigs fiasco in Cuba.

Rest - https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/biden-keeps-digging-on-his-disastrous-evacuation-of-afghanistan-goodwin/

[Gunny]

I have to disagree, Gunny. Yes, the President fled and the troops dropped their equipment and ran, but I don't think Biden has a legit point. By that time, Biden already royally f***ed up the withdrawal by having all Americans at the airport fly away in the middle of the night without preparing the Afghans or preparing them in any way.

How do prepare someone to do something? You tell them how to do it, you have an apprentice period where they watch you do it, and then you have a startup period where you watch while they do it. Joe skipped the second two steps.

I consider Joe Biden to have no valid argument about anything, to be a completely worthless f***up, and to be completely unfit to be President, Vice President, Senator, or Assistant Mens Room Attendant.Can't defend my comment as it has been overcome by events. I will point out however, this "army" has had 20 years to prepare to stand on its own. That's a generation.

Learned since I made my comment is that our intel knew beforehand these chuckleheads were going to flee.

I don't even know what there is to say about this. From a military point of view, I am having to force myself to believe this shit. If there is a single, possible way to compound fuckup upon fuckup, this administration has found it and executed it. Worse decision after bad decision, non-stop.

ON top of that, throw out the puppet and we get pure evil.

[LongTermGuy]

Not a chance...Never forget

...1. Stolen election..

...2. Bidens Afghanistan


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https://www.starspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Former-Gov-Jerry-Brown-praises-Biden-for-039courageous039-Afghanistan-pullout.jpg

[Gunny]

Look where we are after only 7 months.

If the MSM turns on him, nobody's going to forget a thing. Otherwise, we'll be off and running after the next "Sky is falling" just as soon as they can get past this. If they do.

Then what? The progressives are probably already drooling at the thought of Harris taking over.

[fj1200]

Rhetoric...word games. Outsmart the other guy with meanings, definitions and patronizing. That's how I see you playing almost everything here.
As for Trump negotiating. At least when he did it. He had the backing and control enough to let the TALIBAN know...HE MEANT BUSINESS. Unlike Sleepy the Appeaser, and Mindless Phony.

I wouldn't say outsmart with meanings and definitions. Make my point in a superior manner hopefully. :) And I'm very selective on who I patronize. :)

I'm sure the Taliban were quite willing to go along with anyone who would sit down with them. It's not like they had much position of strength other than to wait around for us to leave. Of course it's hard to imagine it being any worse than it is now so trump by definition would not have been worse.

[fj1200]

Sometimes you don't have to say anything.

[SassyLady]

Media and WH officials pushing variants to take focus off Afghanistan fiasco.

[Juicer66]

Media and WH officials pushing variants to take focus off Afghanistan fiasco.


If you start from the premiss that DS do not care anything for Sleepy and Kabul Land and that Sleepy is just a convenient idiot door stop , the deflection is actually away

from the Covid False Flag which is in danger of collapsing and the impending John Durham report and separately the full AZ audit results .

For Covid they need to buy a few weeks to use the many , many millions of unused inoculations (roll up young guinea pigs ! ) that will soon be unusable and to promote

the narrative to get in booster kill shots before the Sheeple wake up .

For other matters they just need delivery of new identity documents , surgery and a passage to New Zealand .

[icansayit]

https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/bin-laden-warned-in-2010-letter-that-biden-would-lead-us-into-crisis/https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/bin-laden-warned-in-2010-letter-that-biden-would-lead-us-into-crisis-featured.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1488

[jimnyc]

Sure, say that now, after they have already prevented all kinds of movement. I think some are probably dead already.

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National Security Adviser Says US ‘Will Deliver A Swift And Forceful Response’ If The Taliban Attempts To Prevent Safe Passage Of Americans

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that if the Taliban interferes with safe passage of American citizens that the U.S. “will deliver a swift and forceful response.”

Sullivan joined Brianna Keilar on CNN’s “State Of The Union” to discuss the current state of the continuing evacuation in Afghanistan, al-Qaida, the Haqqani Network and more.

“We can’t give you a precise number but we believe it is several thousand Americans who are, we are working with now to try to get safely out of the country,” Sullivan said. “We’re working hard to organize groups of Americans, to bring them on the airbase, to get them on flights and get them out of the country.”

The White House announced Sunday that approximately 30,000 people have been evacuated since the end of July.

Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/22/us-afghanistan-withdrawal-cnn-jake-sullivan/

[Gunny]

Sure, say that now, after they have already prevented all kinds of movement. I think some are probably dead already.

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National Security Adviser Says US ‘Will Deliver A Swift And Forceful Response’ If The Taliban Attempts To Prevent Safe Passage Of Americans

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that if the Taliban interferes with safe passage of American citizens that the U.S. “will deliver a swift and forceful response.”

Sullivan joined Brianna Keilar on CNN’s “State Of The Union” to discuss the current state of the continuing evacuation in Afghanistan, al-Qaida, the Haqqani Network and more.

“We can’t give you a precise number but we believe it is several thousand Americans who are, we are working with now to try to get safely out of the country,” Sullivan said. “We’re working hard to organize groups of Americans, to bring them on the airbase, to get them on flights and get them out of the country.”

The White House announced Sunday that approximately 30,000 people have been evacuated since the end of July.

Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/22/us-afghanistan-withdrawal-cnn-jake-sullivan/Nothing like doubling down on both Biden's and Blinken's threat of the same earlier last week:rolleyes:

They're frozen in fear. They've made enough mistakes and compounded them to the point that they're just froze up. Afraid they'll make yet another mistake.

Not that a good leader would have put himself in this situation, but faced with it, this is where you erase the blackboard and get a new piece of chalk.

[jimnyc]

I am going to merge all of my started threads on this subject into one.

Something tells me this will be going for awhile.

[jimnyc]

I don't know about "linked" and certainly not directly. But perhaps should they have done their jobs equivalently this dipshit never gets elected.

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The Media’s Failure to Vet Candidate Biden Is Linked to the Afghanistan Debacle

It was obvious to any sentient observer in 2020. In defending himself on Afghanistan, Joe Biden fumbled his words, made weird comments and generally didn't seem up to the job of being president. And the media pretended there was nothing to see. This week Newsmax host Greg Kelly took the problem head on from a media perspective.

Afghanistan, Kelly observed with accompanying quite vivid video, “is a full blown disaster.” Which is most decidedly true.

After a video montage of Biden doing his bizarre kissing and hair-smelling routines, Kelly zeroed in again on Biden’s competence — and the media.


“The political press, they say they exist so they can vet these people (presidential candidates) for us. To apply pressure, to pressure-test candidates to see how they perform at the presidential level. The thing is, they never really did that for Joe Biden. They backed off big time when Covid started. Then Joe Biden, literally, became untouchable. And of course, they had to do anything to get Donald Trump out. So it was hands-off coverage. And what are we left with? A guy who can’t handle the job. And now babies are subject to this.”

Rest - https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/jeffrey-lord/2021/08/21/medias-failure-vet-candidate-biden-linked-afghanistan-debacle

[jimnyc]

Taliban Sets Woman on Fire for 'Bad Cooking'

There’s more at stake in Afghanistan than U.S. prestige or the future of Joe Biden’s presidency. Millions of women in Afghanistan who were just starting to assert their rights as females are now condemned to being sent back to the Middle Ages under the Taliban’s notion of “women’s rights.”

Admittedly, the Afghanistan version of women’s liberation, even with the presence of thousands of American troops, was unrecognizable to most western women. Strictures placed on female behavior as well as opportunities for employment had been dictated by the Islamic religion. And there are other Muslim countries with almost as severe rules and regulations women must abide by as they will be forced to in Taliban Afghanistan.

But freedom of any kind must be nurtured and encouraged. The Taliban would destroy any hope of a future for Afghan women and girls.

As an illustration of what Afghan women are in for, one activist tells what happened to a woman forced to cook for the Taliban.


Taliban fighters allegedly set a woman on fire for “bad cooking,” as other women in Afghanistan go into hiding and reportedly being forced into sex slavery.

“They are forcing people to give them food and cook them food. A woman was put on fire because she was accused of bad cooking for Taliban fighters,” activist and former Afghan judge Najla Ayoubi told Sky News.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/08/22/taliban-sets-woman-on-fire-for-bad-cooking-n1471797

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I think they knew the likelihood of this taking place in Afghanistan, and they just said fu** it and went with it anyway and ignored the fallout. ANd that fallout is still growing.

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Pentagon Claims Kabul Airport Clear amid Reports of Taliban Beating Women and Children

Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), released a statement Tuesday that said Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul has been secured and is once again open to civilian air traffic.

McKenzie warned the Taliban not to interfere with U.S. evacuation efforts and threatened to respond to any attack with “overwhelming force.” Reports nevertheless flooded in of Taliban fighters blocking access to the airport and brutalizing men, women, and children who tried to get past their checkpoints.

McKenzie said he personally evaluated the situation at the airport and is satisfied with “the work our forces are doing to efficiently operate the airfield while ensuring the safe movement of civilians and diplomats who are leaving Kabul.”

The CENTCOM chief said it was safe to resume civilian operations at the airport, with due caution, and warned Taliban leaders not to interfere:



Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/18/pentagon-claims-kabul-airport-clear-amid-reports-of-taliban-beating-women-and-children/


We Told Him: Deep State Intelligence Turns on Joe Biden After Afghanistan Failure

Intelligence agencies are pushing back Wednesday against the White House narrative that the sudden fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban caught the administration off guard.

The New York Times reports intelligence sources who claimed by July their reports seriously questioned the Afghan military’s ability to resist the Taliban, even as Biden was telling reporters at the White House that it was unlikely that the government would fall.

“The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely,” he said July 8th.

While even the intelligence agencies could not have predicted the nearly immediate collapse of the Afghanistan government, Biden failed to acknowledge growing concerns from analysts in the Summer.

A White House official pushed back against the intelligence narrative, noting Biden and his team never got a “high confidence” level warning of a complete military collapse in Afghanistan.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/18/we-told-him-deep-state-intelligence-turns-joe-biden-after-afghanistan-failure/

I think they made --"deals" with the Taliban to --let-- this happen-but not in the manner the lying Taliban executed it and are now doing.
Takes a certain kind of idiot to make deals with vermin like that and then childishly expect those vermin to hold up their end.
We see exactly that from the libs/dems over and over..
It is a form of gullibility, wishful thinking, arrogance and utter stupidity, imho..-Tyr

[SassyLady]

If the mission is to get the world to hate America this fiasco in Afghanistan is definitely helping. All those who helped us out and got a taste of freedom will fall right into the Taliban, ISIS and Alqueda hate America mindset. I'm sure the Afghan women, if they live, will never forgive us.

[LongTermGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9ay2qNWUAEUlLH?format=jpg&name=large

[tailfins]

Please explain what that has got to do with the price of Raspberries .

If there's another 9/11 like attack, it could cause logistic issues that raise the price of Raspberries.

[jimnyc]

And many still stuck over there. Looks like Joe and company put themselves in a pickle.

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Taliban Threatens Joe Biden: Stay in Afghanistan Past August and Suffer ‘Consequences’

A senior Taliban spokesman told the U.K.’s Sky News on Monday that the United States and its ally Britain will face “consequences” if they seek to extend their military presence in Afghanistan to ensure the safe evacuation of their citizens.

American President Joe Biden announced this summer that he would withdraw all American troops from the country by August 31. Biden had previously announced in April that the withdrawal would end on September 11, the 20th anniversary of the jihadist attacks that prompted the Afghan War. Both dates were a significant extension of the war from the set withdrawal date under former President Donald Trump, who brokered a deal with the Taliban that would have seen a full American military exit by May 1.

The Taliban followed Biden’s extension of the war – and his choice to break the agreement Trump brokered with the jihadist organization – with a nationwide campaign to overthrow the now-former government of Afghanistan. The campaign culminated with Taliban terrorists surrounding the country’s capital, Kabul, on August 15, prompting former President Ashraf Ghani to abruptly flee the country.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/23/taliban-threatens-joe-biden-stay-in-afghanistan-past-august-and-suffer-consequences/#

[jimnyc]

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Ronny Jackson: Biden’s Lack of Cognitive Fitness Is Playing out Now, ‘He’s Getting Americans Killed’

On Friday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Fox News Primetime,” Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-TX) stated that President Joe Biden’s lack of mental fitness for the office is being “played out on the international stage right now. He’s destroying the reputation of this country. He’s getting Americans killed.”

Jackson said, “I’ve said for year-and-a-half now that this man is not cognitively fit to be our commander-in-chief. And of course, I hoped I was wrong, but I’m not. And we’re seeing it played out on the international stage right now. He’s destroying the reputation of this country. He’s getting Americans killed. There’s bloodshed over now — American blood being shed in Afghanistan again, for the first time in many, many, many months.”

He added, “You know what’s about to come back, Jesse? The orange jumpsuits are about to come back. That’s the horrific stuff that we have to look forward to. The Taliban may capture some of these people. Because we’re going to have thousands — at least hundreds of Americans that are going to be stranded over there, and then all of these interpreters. And the Taliban might capture some of the Americans and they might hold them ransom for some money. But ISIS is going to take them and they’re going to put them in these orange jumpsuits and they’re going to behead them on videos that are going to get sent all over the world. That’s what we have to look forward to. And he has destroyed our reputation with our allies. And just like you said, he has sent the wrong message to our adversaries. We are tested every single day in this Biden administration, by other — by our adversaries, and every day Joe Biden fails that test and it’s just going to keep getting worse and worse.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/28/ronny-jackson-bidens-lack-of-cognitive-fitness-is-playing-out-now-hes-getting-americans-killed/


Taliban Hunting Down Afghans Using U.S. Biometric Data

A report claims the Taliban is bragging about using American-built equipment to identify and hunt down Afghans who assisted the United States and other nations in the war-torn country.

Zenger News reports via the New York Post:


Nawazuddin Haqqani, one of the brigade commanders over the Al Isha unit, bragged in an interview with Zenger News that his unit is using US-made hand-held scanners to tap into a massive US-built biometric database and positively identify any person who helped the NATO allies or worked with Indian intelligence. Afghans who try to deny or minimize their role will find themselves contradicted by the detailed computer records that the US left behind in its frenzied withdrawal.

The existence of the Al Isha unit has not been previously confirmed by the Taliban; until now the Haqqani Network, a terror group aligned with the Taliban, has not admitted its role in targeting Afghans or its use of America’s vast biometric database.

The U.S. National Counterterrorism Center has referred to the Haqqani Network as “the most lethal and sophisticated insurgent group targeting US, Coalition, and Afghan forces.”

“Now that Kabul is taken, operational work has taken a back seat and we’ve turned our focus on counterintelligence,” Haqqani said in an interview with Zenger. “While most of the brigade is now resting in different madrassas [Islamic religious schools], the Al Isha group is now the principal agency handling this [biometric] data project.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/27/report-taliban-hunting-down-afghans-using-u-s-biometric-data/

[SassyLady]

13418

[Gunny]

They cannot be dishonorably discharged for refusing the vaccine. They can be administratively given a general discharge.

Depends on how the CO wants to play it. When it came to anthrax, they busted the Sgt one stripe at a time for refusing to obey a lawful order, not refusing to take a shot. That "lawful" order was given by SecNav. I didn't care about the shot. I DID care I was being ordered to take it by a suit that didn't have his sleeve rolled up setting the example.