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Gunny
07-23-2021, 06:37 PM
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 12:56 PM PT – Friday, July 23, 2021The House has recently passed a bill approving additional visas for Afghan allies in a near unanimous vote. In a rare show of bipartisanship, the House approved the bill expanding the Special Immigrant Visa program for Afghans who aided U.S. forces during the decades-long war in Afghanistan.
The bill called the Averting Loss of Life and Injury by Expediting SIVs or Allies Act (https://crow.house.gov/media/press-releases/crow-introduces-bill-protect-afghan-partners-and-expedite-siv-process) granted an additional 8,000 visas to translators, contractors and their families.
The lead sponsor of the bill, Colorado Rep. Jason Crow (D), said the Allies Act was a chance for America to ensure we uphold the promise made to those that provided necessary aid in a conflict that spanned nearly 20 years. The bill was introduced last month, but as the Taliban continued to advance throughout the country, keeping Afghan allies and their families safe became essential.


The passage of the Allies Act comes in stark contrast to the callousness of comments made by Joe Biden who, when discussing the duty the U.S. has to ensure Afghanistan doesn’t fall to the threat of terror groups, again said it was simply not the job of the U.S. to fix anything.
“We did not go to Afghanistan to nation-build. And it’s the right and the responsibility of Afghan people alone to decide their future, and how they want to run their country,” said Biden.
Meanwhile, the bill is headed to the Senate and under Operation Allies Refuge, the federal government is working to establish safe havens in allied countries to give Afghans a new chance to live a safe life away from the constant threat of Taliban violence.



https://www.oann.com/house-grants-8k-additional-visas-for-afghan-allies/

Not going to be anywhere near enough, IMO, but then, what number would be? We can't move 2/3s of the population of Afghanistan to the US.

Biden's remarks are dishonorable and if he had a brain he'd be ashamed of making them. He's a disgrace.

Kathianne
07-23-2021, 07:09 PM
https://www.oann.com/house-grants-8k-additional-visas-for-afghan-allies/

Not going to be anywhere near enough, IMO, but then, what number would be? We can't move 2/3s of the population of Afghanistan to the US.

Biden's remarks are dishonorable and if he had a brain he'd be ashamed of making them. He's a disgrace.

Translators and families for sure.

Gunny
07-23-2021, 07:26 PM
Translators and families for sure.The Taliban is going to hold its purge, guilty or not. They can fight, or not and hope they don't get chosen to be part of the "lesson".

Biden can say we didn't go there to Nation build all he wants, but it's lame. We were there 20 years and completely took out the Taliban as the government. Twenty years is long enough to build a new government and Nation. Sure didn't take that long in Europe or Japan.

But we used to play win both short and long term.

Kathianne
07-23-2021, 07:57 PM
The Taliban is going to hold its purge, guilty or not. They can fight, or not and hope they don't get chosen to be part of the "lesson".

Biden can say we didn't go there to Nation build all he wants, but it's lame. We were there 20 years and completely took out the Taliban as the government. Twenty years is long enough to build a new government and Nation. Sure didn't take that long in Europe or Japan.

But we used to play win both short and long term.
You'd know more about after, but at the very least, should have made arrangements for air bases to support instead of basically a bug out. This seems to have just been a total abandonment, without any planning at all. We left small numbers, with air bases in mind in both Iraq and Syria, simply to be a check on problems that would arise. Not here.

Gunny
07-24-2021, 09:29 PM
You'd know more about after, but at the very least, should have made arrangements for air bases to support instead of basically a bug out. This seems to have just been a total abandonment, without any planning at all. We left small numbers, with air bases in mind in both Iraq and Syria, simply to be a check on problems that would arise. Not here.Depends who you're listening to and/or position you are in whether or not what was done was the correct thing to do.

"Bugging out" is THE absolute correct way to withdraw, if you're going to. They wake up, you're gone, and there's nothing for them to f- with or put on youtube. This of course is from the military POV. There will be collateral damage. There always is. Wars aren't as surgical as we like to pretend they can be. BUT, if the goal is to get as many hands and as much equipment off the ground, and safely home, in the least amount of time, mission accomplished.

If you are in the know; which, most are not, you can't tell anyone. Especially Afghans. Can't trust them. Even the ones working with you.

Do I think it is the right thing to do? From a humanitarian standpoint of course not. But here is where you come up with a better answer that won't offend everybody and their brother. If THAT's (pissing everyone off) the deal, I got a solution :). Stay? Should be a point to doing that.

I still think that maggot Biden is a freakin' maggot. How does the left give him a pass on his callous comments? If a Republican said "people are going to die" in a matter of fact manner (he was talking about COVID), and gives basically "not our problem" answer this, they'd be calling for heads to roll.

I'm not easily offended, but I can see the callousness in his words and manner. I assume most of the rest of the World can too.