View Full Version : I want specifics! - What do you dislike about Hillary Clinton?
Guernicaa
09-23-2007, 12:42 PM
What specifically do you guys hate about Hillary Clinton??
Most of you (conservatives) seem to have this really ugly and nasty hatred towards her thats almost as bad as the lefts hatred of Bush.
Why??
List 5 specific reasons, with facts (links) to back them up.
darin
09-23-2007, 12:50 PM
1) She's a woman (goes against my idea of a leader, unless proven otherwise)
2) She's for 'universal' health care.
3) She's soft on the War, and blames BUSH for the war:
In a November 29, 2005 letter to her constituents, Senator Clinton said, "There are no quick and easy solutions to the long and drawn out conflict [the Bush] Administration triggered ... I do not believe that we should allow this to be an open-ended commitment without limits or end. Nor do I believe that we can or should pull out of Iraq immediately
4)She supports 'openly gay' soldiers - and can't make up her mind on homosexuality:
In a March 2007 interview with ABC News correspondent Jake Tapper, Clinton said that the U.S. military's "Don't ask, don't tell" policy was not working and that openly gay people should be allowed to serve: "We are being deprived of thousands of patriotic men and women who want to serve their country who are bringing skills into the armed services that we desperately need, like translation skills."
In the same interview, when asked if homosexuality is "immoral", she declined to respond: "Well I'm going to leave that to others to conclude."[101] However, later that day, Clinton released a statement regarding US General Peter Pace's comment that homosexual acts are "immoral". She stated: "I disagree with what he said and do not share his view, plain and simple."[102] She went further the following day, stating that "what I believe" is that "homosexuality is not immoral."
5)She seems 'pro' gun-control:
In 1992 Hillary Clinton supported a federal ban on semi-automatic firearms before the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was passed in 1993 and signed by President Clinton
During a 1999 press conference at the White House, First Lady Hillary Clinton stated, "And since the crime bill was enacted, 19 of the deadliest assault weapons are harder to find on our streets. We will never know how many tragedies we've avoided because of these efforts." During the time period referenced by Clinton, however, handguns accounted for over 2/3 of firearm mortalities in the US.
In the 1999 Proposition B in Missouri campaign, Robin Carnahan's Safe Schools and Workplaces Committee, on the weekend prior to voting day, coordinated a taped phone message from Hillary Clinton that automatically dialed 75,000 homes statewide with the message, "Just too dangerous for Missouri families."
Hillary Clinton favors "sensible gun control legislation" and not limiting gun control lawsuits. She made gun control issues part of her 2000 Senate campaign.
Hillary Clinton was one of 16 Senators who voted against the 2006 Vitter Amendment, which prohibits the funding of the confiscation of lawfully-held firearms during a disaster
April15
09-23-2007, 12:56 PM
I find her sexy!
Mr. P
09-23-2007, 01:11 PM
What specifically do you guys hate about Hillary Clinton??
Most of you (conservatives) seem to have this really ugly and nasty hatred towards her thats almost as bad as the lefts hatred of Bush.
Why??
List 5 specific reasons, with facts (links) to back them up.
I don't 'hate' her. I'll give ya 3 reasons I oppose her.
1. She's a lier.
2. She's corrupt.
3. She's a socialist.
I find her sexy!
But she claims she is not a lesbian. :eek:
BoogyMan
09-23-2007, 01:23 PM
What specifically do you guys hate about Hillary Clinton??
Most of you (conservatives) seem to have this really ugly and nasty hatred towards her thats almost as bad as the lefts hatred of Bush.
Why??
List 5 specific reasons, with facts (links) to back them up.
I do not HATE anyone Obama, but I certainly don't want to see Hillary Clinton as president of the United States.
1. "It Takes a Village," what a load of tripe! It takes a set of parents to raise a child, not a village and certainly not a mandate from the UN. The woman doesn't now and will NEVER have a say in how I raise my children.
2. Her move to one of the most liberal of areas in the US, in carpetbagger fashion, in order to get elected as a Senator.
3. Her newfound southern accent while speaking to the congregation of a southern ethnic church.
4. Her speaking from the pulpit of a southern ethnic church. The church is no place for politics.
5. Her chameleonic political views based upon what she thinks her audience wants to hear.
5stringJeff
09-23-2007, 01:37 PM
1. She believes in wealth redistribution, which punishes the successful in our country and destroys the American Dream.
2. She believes in universal health care, which means less freedom/liberty for all Americans to live as they choose.
3. She believes in tighter gun control, which also means less freedom/liberty for all Americans to live as they choose.
Guernicaa
09-23-2007, 01:38 PM
But she claims she is not a lesbian. :eek:
lol...Personally I think it would be the funniest shit in the world if evidence was discovered that she liked vag
It wouldn't affect my opinion of her..I'd still like her. It would just be some funny shit.
Guernicaa
09-23-2007, 02:25 PM
For those of you who think Hillary is a "socialist", well...I would look at this:
http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/usprimaries2007
They're very accurate as well.
They have that test that can determine where you are on the spectrum.
PostmodernProphet
09-23-2007, 02:39 PM
They're very accurate as well.
if they used all of her stated positions she would have to end up in the dead center of the board, since she has taken every conceivable position (and no, that is not a reference to the 'lesbian' post).......
5stringJeff
09-23-2007, 03:18 PM
For those of you who think Hillary is a "socialist", well...I would look at this:
http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/usprimaries2007
They're very accurate as well.
They have that test that can determine where you are on the spectrum.
This is a good test - I have it linked in my sig.
However, the point is that the entire American political spectrum exists towards the Right of the world political spectrum. Hard socialist policies that make up the Left of the spectrum in this test would violate the liberty that America's political foundation is built upon. So Hillary is a socialist, in the American context.
PostmodernProphet
09-23-2007, 04:02 PM
the point is that the entire American political spectrum exists towards the Right of the world political spectrum
I would call that an overstatement.....while we are well to the right of the European spectrum, I think most of Asia, Africa and Latin America are to the right of us.....
Trigg
09-23-2007, 04:41 PM
She's evil
1. Her stance on universal healthcare
2. Illegal immigration
3. She's a very driven person and I just don't trust people who would step on their grandma to get up the ladder.
avatar4321
09-23-2007, 05:07 PM
I dont hate anyone.
But i oppose Hillary
1)she is corrupt
2)She is a liar
3)She has no problem engaging in illegal activities and covering up for them when it suits her
4)She wants to take away freedom by making people dependent on government.
5)she is self centered and power hungry
6)She conveniently forgets anything that would affect her negatively and someone who is that forgetful isnt competant for the Presidency
7)She has no problem putting our troops down when she needs her base to support her
8)She has done absolutely nothing in her political life that makes her worthy for the Presidency
9)She is mean and nasty
10)She refuses to take responsibility for her actions and choices.
There are tons others. but its easy to see why she will never be President of the United States.
gabosaurus
09-23-2007, 05:11 PM
I am nowhere near being a conservative and I despise Hillary.
Avatar jumped on most of the reasons, so I won't add anymore.
It has nothing to do with being a woman. A woman can do an equal or better job as President than a man. Anything else is merely sexist and behind the times.
Bush is a male and has done a very poor job of leadership.
Abbey Marie
09-23-2007, 05:37 PM
I am nowhere near being a conservative and I despise Hillary.
Avatar jumped on most of the reasons, so I won't add anymore.
It has nothing to do with being a woman. A woman can do an equal or better job as President than a man. Anything else is merely sexist and behind the times.
Bush is a male and has done a very poor job of leadership.
Darn, Gab, you had me until the last sentence! :D
April15
09-23-2007, 05:45 PM
But she claims she is not a lesbian. :eek:
I'm not either! Remember I have a moniker that is opposite my gender.
Mr. P
09-23-2007, 06:11 PM
Darn, Gab, you had me until the last sentence! :D
Yeah, me too...But she's right.
MtnBiker
09-23-2007, 11:03 PM
What makes her a leader? If she was not married to a former president would we even know of her? What exactly has she accomplished?
manu1959
09-23-2007, 11:19 PM
I'm not either! Remember I have a moniker that is opposite my gender.
no you don't...................
MtnBiker
09-23-2007, 11:20 PM
I find her sexy!
Well that certainly is a qualified reason to vote for her. :rolleyes:
manu1959
09-23-2007, 11:24 PM
hilary.....
would you want her as your boss.....
stephanie
09-24-2007, 12:51 AM
I am nowhere near being a conservative and I despise Hillary.
Avatar jumped on most of the reasons, so I won't add anymore.
It has nothing to do with being a woman. A woman can do an equal or better job as President than a man. Anything else is merely sexist and behind the times.
Bush is a male and has done a very poor job of leadership.
I will agree with ya...on some...I don't believe we are being sexist......It's just that the Hill is the wrong women for this time.....
We will agree and disagree some on the Bush administration.:clap:
truthmatters
09-24-2007, 09:52 AM
I see alot of claims about why some dont luike her but I see very little proof that any of the stuff is true?
I could say the same about Most of the people running for the R ticket and prove it.
Dilloduck
09-24-2007, 10:26 AM
I see alot of claims about why some dont luike her but I see very little proof that any of the stuff is true?
I could say the same about Most of the people running for the R ticket and prove it.
Got news for ya-----truth DOESN"T matter in politics. It should but it doesn't.
truthmatters
09-24-2007, 11:17 AM
Got news for ya-----truth DOESN"T matter in politics. It should but it doesn't.
It does if we insist it does.
GW in Ohio
09-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Well, shit howdy.....
If you boys don't like Hillary, you'd better amend the Constitution so Mr. Bush can run for a third term.
Wouldn't that be great? A third term for George Bush. He could have 4 more years to screw around in Iraq.
BoogyMan
09-24-2007, 12:25 PM
I see alot of claims about why some dont luike her but I see very little proof that any of the stuff is true?
I could say the same about Most of the people running for the R ticket and prove it.
Please show me where the list I posted earlier in this thread is erroneous TruthMatters. Could you provide a point by point breakdown for me?
1. "It Takes a Village," what a load of tripe! It takes a set of parents to raise a child, not a village and certainly not a mandate from the UN. The woman doesn't now and will NEVER have a say in how I raise my children.
2. Her move to one of the most liberal of areas in the US, in carpetbagger fashion, in order to get elected as a Senator.
3. Her newfound southern accent while speaking to the congregation of a southern ethnic church.
4. Her speaking from the pulpit of a southern ethnic church. The church is no place for politics.
5. Her chameleonic political views based upon what she thinks her audience wants to hear.
Dilloduck
09-24-2007, 12:51 PM
It does if we insist it does.
Either WE have not done very well or politicians HAVE made the truth inconsequential.
avatar4321
09-24-2007, 04:58 PM
Well, shit howdy.....
If you boys don't like Hillary, you'd better amend the Constitution so Mr. Bush can run for a third term.
Wouldn't that be great? A third term for George Bush. He could have 4 more years to screw around in Iraq.
well if that isnt disjointed logic i dont know what is.
Why do you assume that the only way Hillary could be beaten is if President Bush ran again?
April15
09-24-2007, 06:34 PM
Got news for ya-----truth DOESN"T matter in politics. It should but it doesn't.Now ain't that the truth!!!
Abbey Marie
09-24-2007, 07:06 PM
Got news for ya-----truth DOESN"T matter in politics. It should but it doesn't.
Jack Nicholson was right; We the American people, probably couldn't handle the truth.
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