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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-22-2021, 08:10 AM
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Almost 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19
David Aaro
Tue, June 22, 2021, 1:23 AM
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Nearly 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts have tested positive for COVID-19, according to recent data from the state Department of Public Health.

The number of breakthrough cases in the state has been infrequent so far -- accounting for approximately one in 1,000 vaccinated people.

As of June 12, there were 3,791 coronavirus cases among the more than 3.7 million fully vaccinated individuals in Massachusetts, reports said.

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"We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration," said Boston University infectious diseases specialist Davidson Hamer, according to the Boston Herald. "The viral load is not very high."

"Breakthroughs are expected, and we need to better understand who’s at risk and whether people who have a breakthrough can transmit the virus to others," he continued. "In some cases, they’ll be shedding such low levels of the virus and won’t be transmitting to others."

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, large-scale clinical studies have found that COVID-19 vaccination prevented most people from getting the virus. Still, no vaccine is 100% effective at preventing the disease and there will be "a small percentage of fully vaccinated people who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19," the agency said.

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A recent study from the CDC showed that Pfizer and Moderna are about 90% effective against infection two weeks after the last dose has passed. The one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine is about 72% effective against moderate to severe disease, according to U.S. trials.

"Testing to identify current infection remains critical to control of COVID-19," a DPH spokeswoman told the paper. "People with current infection can spread the virus to others and isolation of cases and identification of close contacts (individuals who may have been exposed) is a foundation of public health response."

Health officials also warned about the contagious Delta variant, seen in areas in the U.S.

Todd Ellerin, director of infectious diseases at South Shore Health, expressed the need to get as many people vaccinated due to the highly contagious variants.

Leads one to ask, why take the shot--if one may still get the disease???...
Especially so , since the so-called- "vaccines" are showing to have several different severe reactions occurring in those that accepted the shots..
And that does not even include commenting on the many lesser negative reactions..-Tyr

fj1200
06-22-2021, 11:18 AM
Leads one to ask, why take the shot--if one may still get the disease???...
Especially so , since the so-called- "vaccines" are showing to have several different severe reactions occurring in those that accepted the shots..
And that does not even include commenting on the many lesser negative reactions..-Tyr

Because... ""We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration," said Boston University" smart person who knows stuff.

Your story also points out a "breakthrough" rate of 1.02% which far exceeds the touted effectiveness rate. Mostly a nothing story but if it makes you feel better. :thumb:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-22-2021, 11:23 AM
Because... ""We’re learning that many of the breakthrough infections are asymptomatic or they’re very mild and brief in duration," said Boston University" smart person who knows stuff.

Your story also points out a "breakthrough" rate of 1.02% which far exceeds the touted effectiveness rate. Mostly a nothing story but if it makes you feel better. :thumb:

Wow thanks, I did not need your permission to post a thread.
Whether I feel better or not is irrelevant and also none of your concern.
Would be polite/civil if you did not issue snide remarks because you disagree with me or my views on politics, etc.
Remember, you fired the first salvo....--Tyr

fj1200
06-22-2021, 11:29 AM
My apologies. I guess I didn't understand what the story adds to the discussion.

NightTrain
06-22-2021, 12:02 PM
Leads one to ask, why take the shot--if one may still get the disease???...
Especially so , since the so-called- "vaccines" are showing to have several different severe reactions occurring in those that accepted the shots..
And that does not even include commenting on the many lesser negative reactions..-Tyr


My understanding is that if you're vaccinated and catch it, the symptoms are massively reduced. Everyone knows that it's still possible to catch it in certain circumstances and with certain people.

It's not 100%, but it's the best we can do in such a truncated amount of time... the pharmaceuticals are still working to develop better vaccines, but in the meantime this is saving lives. It's not a Polio vaccine - yet.

I personally know people that caught it with no vaccinations and it's no joke. Even guys in their 30s / 40s say it was the worst they'd ever been, but their kids bounced right back with no issues like we've all heard.

jimnyc
06-22-2021, 02:48 PM
Every medical person I spoke with talks about how it may save your life or reduce symptoms if you should get infected. That is a good thing, not croaking.

But the vaccine should be presented as such so as not to give out full false hope. Most understand that a vaccine = immunity. But even regular vaccines aren't fool proof. Then, I wonder about the vaccine and continually changing forms. What will that do to the shots effectiveness and will we end up getting seasonal shots like the flu shot? We don't know as they don't fully know yet.

And then folks not asymptomatic, not a light reaction - but those ending up needing medical assistance, and worse, those who have died. They need to be open and honest with this and hopefully find out why. But some are still pointing to the Vaers database while others state it's not accurate. Ok then - then what are the accurate numbers? Why aren't they addressing that issue and clarifying?

Still some questions and concerns from me, and not sure with so many folks lying that we'll ever know answers or the truth.

fj1200
06-22-2021, 08:04 PM
^I think you presume that enough people care about accurate numbers. People just want enough information that supports their viewpoint. If you look for it you will certainly find it. Two people will look at the same number and say, "see? I'm right."