Georgia Senate Races

[jimnyc]

This is for all the marbles and all that will be left to decide the makeup of politics for the next few years. It will be either complete control and decisions mainly for the democrats with the lead in the house and senate and presidency. But if just one of the republicans should win - then there is at least a balance with the senate lead going to republicans. It's a huge difference.

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Donald Trump Urges Georgia Supporters to Vote for Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue in Senate Runoffs

President Donald Trump on Friday told his supporters to defend the Republican Senate majority by backing Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) and David Perdue (R-GA) in the Georgia runoff elections.

The president reacted to a Newsmax article about Trump supporters in Georgia considering a boycott of the election.

“No, the 2020 Election was a total scam, we won by a lot (and will hopefully turn over the fraudulent result), but we must get out and help David and Kelly, two GREAT people,” Trump wrote on Twitter.

https://i.imgur.com/OKPbtHX.png

Many Trump supporters are enraged by their state GOP representatives in Georgia, accusing them of failing to back the president in a contentious recount in which former Vice President Joe Biden still holds a roughly 12,000 vote lead.

But Trump said that a boycott would only help Democrats.

“Otherwise we are playing right into the hands of some very sick people,” he wrote.

As Breitbart News reported, Democrats are already exploiting tensions in the state by spreading the message that Republicans should not back the Georgia Republican candidates because of their failure to fight for the president.

Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. has also opposed any boycotts.

“That is NONSENSE. IGNORE those people,” he wrote on Twitter. “We need ALL of our people coming out to vote for Kelly & David.”

Trump again promised to hold a campaign rally for Loeffler and Perdue as Republicans work to maintain control of their Senate majority.

“I will be in Georgia on Saturday!” he wrote, referring to his planned rally for December 5.

The president is watching the race closely as Democrats work to flip the state and seize control of the Senate.

Trump described Perdue’s Democrat opponent, Jon Ossoff, as a “lightweight” in a conversation with reporters on Thursday and Loeffler’s opponent, Raphael Warnock, as “either a communist or a socialist. I cannot figure that out yet.”

The Georgia runoff election will take place on January 5.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/27/donald-trump-urges-georgia-supporters-vote-kelly-loeffler-david-perdue-senate-runoffs/

[jimnyc]

I don't trust this group due to the amount of information accounted for earlier in the year, and the many connections and how monies were ALL being funneled to democrats.

A portion of these idiots are also donating what they can - in the expectation that they can perhaps not only defund law enforcement - but also shut down prisons & much of immigration enforcement.

Then we have:


Georgia GOP spokeswoman Abigail Sigler said in a statement Friday that Warnock and Ossoff would continue to enable defunding the police and other extreme leftist measures, while Loeffler and Perdue would defend Georgia law enforcement.

No brainer and common sense to me. One wants to defund law enforcement & more - while the other defend & support law enforcement. I know folks never like getting arrested or even getting a parking ticket - but they offer a LOT more than that and we all know it.

And then lastly and certainly not least - Dominion systems were used in Georgia & will be used once again in January. :rolleyes:

Apparently it was used in 28 states on election day - and YES, all 6 states that were the closest & contested, all used Dominion. If I were them, I would be getting in something different for January and if any fight instantly bring to courts and work your way to the SC. At least then there will be less questions afterwards.

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Black Lives Matter PAC to Raise $500K to Boost Democrats Raphael Warnock, Jon Ossoff

Black Lives Matter PAC hopes to raise half a million dollars to boost Georgia Senate Democrat candidates Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock, according to a report released on Thursday.

The Black Lives Matter PAC wrote in an email to supporters:


We know how important this election is going to be in determining what decisions will be made in the Senate for the next few years — decisions that will impact us directly, like access to quality and affordable health care, reforming the criminal justice system, all the way to major electoral reform like passing the BREATHE Act.

The Georgia Senate runoffs in January will determine whether Democrats will gain control of the Senate majority. If Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) and David Perdue (R-GA) lose to Warnock and Ossoff, then Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) would become the tiebreaking vote in the Senate should she be formally elected vice president.

Black Lives Matter supporters hope to pass the BREATHE Act, which would shut down and defund several federal agencies and close prisons as well as immigration detention centers.

The report follows as President Donald Trump announced on Thursday that he would campaign in Georgia to help Loeffler and Perdue win in January.

Georgia GOP spokeswoman Abigail Sigler said in a statement Friday that Warnock and Ossoff would continue to enable defunding the police and other extreme leftist measures, while Loeffler and Perdue would defend Georgia law enforcement.

Sigler said:


Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock have already endorsed defunding the police and continue to accept support from far-left activists who will throw our country into chaos. Senators David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler have made it clear they will stand with law enforcement and ensure they have the resources they need to keep our communities safe.

She added, “Georgians deserve to know if Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock support BLM PAC’s extreme agenda, including the radical BREATHE Act.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/27/black-lives-matters-pac-to-raise-500k-to-boost-democrats-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff/

[jimnyc]

I don't care if they are permanently wired to an encrypted server online, or if they simply connect for small intervals to transmit results. With ANY connection can come a program/hack/code along with it. And a good hacker can design code that will go in and do its job, then delete the logs showing the connection and transmission of the code and the execution and basically all traces. So it didn't exist. But thanks to being online, and the fact that the machine is vulnerable to begin with, we may never know.

Having them connect at all is absolute idiocy. Having them even in the same room or building with a connection at all is dumb, IMO. Or, simply design a stand alone machine/machines that do not connect to the internet.

In the manner outlined below, they can wait for certification on security (or not) and then connect whenever necessary and upload code. It can simply be set to run at say 11pm, 1am or whatever and then instantly execute. Or it can be triggered remotely or perhaps even locally somehow.

And that's just the issue - have a machine with vulnerabilities and you WILL have questions.
Have machines around the nation that connect to the internet - and you WILL have questions.

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Last-minute software update in Georgia by Dominion’s Eric Coomer did NOT receive adequate security testing

Attorneys' claims of security risks 12-days before voting began were blown off by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

A software update made 12-days before voting began in Georgia was not adequately tested for security issues nor was it recertified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. Why? Because infamous Dominion Voting Systems executive Eric Coomer claimed the change was “minor” and did not require recertification.

Nothing to see here, right?

It all began when issues were noticed regarding Senate candidates not appearing on the touchscreen ballots. But attorneys for the plaintiffs called for paper ballots to be used in lieu of replaced technology because it was so close to the beginning of early voting in Georgia. Their request was denied outright by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

According to GovTech:

The issue, discovered last week during pre-election equipment testing in Douglas and Richmond counties, occurred when the second column of candidates didn’t appear because of a technical problem with how touchscreens communicated with their underlying Android operating system, said Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems. He said the problem only happened rarely, when users made selections in a specific pattern.

David Cross, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said making a critical software change shows that the state’s voting technology is vulnerable to problems.

“This is far bigger than we originally thought,” Cross told U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg. “It’s hard to imagine a more concerning scenario.”

He said the software upgrade is being made without adequate security testing or certification from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. But Coomer said the change is minor and doesn’t require recertification.

Election officials halted testing in the 77 counties where it had begun after they learned about the problem, said Gabriel Sterling, statewide voting system implementation manager.

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Rest - https://noqreport.com/2020/11/24/last-minute-software-update-in-georgia-by-dominions-eric-coomer-did-not-receive-adequate-security-testing/


Dominion Voting Machines (connected to public internet)???

WHY IS INTERNET CONNECTIVITY A PROBLEM?

It’s obvious that connecting voting machines directly to the Internet through wireless modems or other means increases the vulnerability of those systems to hacking. Though we have frequently been told that voting machines are not connected to the Internet[1] this is not always the case. Many states’ voting machines include wireless modems which transmit their unofficial results over the Internet. Some states allow their vote tabulation computers to be connected to the Internet.

Make no mistake, eliminating wireless modems and Internet connectivity will not guarantee our voting machines can’t be manipulated or hacked through corrupted USB sticks, insider attacks or supply chain corruption which is why all votes should be cast on paper ballots and all elections should be audited by manually counting a sample of the paper ballots.
The FBI and Department of Homeland Security have confirmed that our foreign adversaries have targeted election networks in all fifty states for cyber attacks.

Rest - https://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/2020/11/19/dominion-voting-machines-connected-to-public-internet/


'Online and vulnerable': Experts find nearly three dozen U.S. voting systems connected to internet

A team of election security experts used a “Google for servers” to challenge claims that voting machines do not connect to the internet and found some did.

It was an assurance designed to bolster public confidence in the way America votes: Voting machines “are not connected to the internet.”

Then Acting Undersecretary for Cybersecurity and Communications at the Department of Homeland Security Jeanette Manfra said those words in 2017, testifying before Congress while she was responsible for the security of the nation’s voting system.

So many government officials like Manfra have said the same thing over the last few years that it is commonly accepted as gospel by most Americans. Behind it is the notion that if voting systems are not online, hackers will have a harder time compromising them.

But that is an overstatement, according to a team of 10 independent cybersecurity experts who specialize in voting systems and elections. While the voting machines themselves are not designed to be online, the larger voting systems in many states end up there, putting the voting process at risk.

That team of election security experts say that last summer, they discovered some systems are, in fact, online.

“We found over 35 [voting systems] had been left online and we’re still continuing to find more,” Kevin Skoglund, a senior technical advisor at the election security advocacy group National Election Defense Coalition, told NBC News.

Rest - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436

[Kathianne]

Glad to see the focus on GA.
I hope we move to retro voting, only thing imo that will restore some measure of confidence.

[jimnyc]

Glad to see the focus on GA.
I hope we move to retro voting, only thing imo that will restore some measure of confidence.

I think folks realize that there is like what, a week left? No time to have the courts change things. And more and more are getting the word out - and at the same time many more are starting to just now understand how important Georgia is.

If folks still want to go forward in the courts that is fine - but paying attention NOW to Georgia is as if not more important.

Go retro voting (and watch who fights against that tooth and nail :rolleyes: )
Fix internet social media, at least for those on the market that may get relief somehow or benefit
Don't know the answer - but our media needs fixing - at least at the national broadcast television level.
Change the way they do debates
I think if they try to continue with the mail in ballots, fight it. If it remains, major overhaul needed.
The FBI and CIA and the DOJ are no longer to be simply trusted
They should implement term limits in congress, sooner than later

Of course term limits will never ever pass with the amount of votes required and due to the fact that the folks voting on the issue are the representatives and senators themselves. Most won't take the time to vote themselves out of office in a few years.

That's why they should put it somehow as a vote to the PEOPLE!

It's been tried before:

The purpose of Senate Joint Resolution 21 is to limit the number of terms a Member of Congress may serve. Senate Joint Resolution 21, if approved by two-thirds of the Members of both the Senate and the House of Representatives, and if ratified by three-fourths of the States, will limit Senators to two terms and Members of the House of Representatives to six terms.

The last Senate vote on congressional term limits occurred
on May 26, 1993. Senator Lauch Faircloth of North Carolina and
Senator Brown again offered an amendment to a campaign finance
reform measure that would restrict the use of public funds for
those serving more than 12 years. The amendment was tabled by a
vote of 57 to 39.

JOINT RESOLUTION proposing a constitutional amendment to limit congressional terms

Resolved by the Senate and the House of Representatives of
the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds
of each House concurring therein), That the following article
is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United
States:

``Article --

``Section 1. After this article becomes operative, no
person shall be elected to a full term as a Senator more than
twice, or to a full term as a Representative more than six
times; no person who has been a Senator for more than three
years of a term to which some other person was elected shall
subsequently be elected as a Senator more than once; and no
person who has been a Representative for more than a year of a
term to which some other person was elected shall subsequently
be elected as a Representative more than five times.
``Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it
shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by
the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within
seven years from the date of its submission to the States by
the Congress.
``Section 3. No election or service occurring before
ratification of this article shall be taken into account when
determining eligibility for election under section 1.''.

Rest - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CRPT-104srpt158/html/CRPT-104srpt158.htm