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NightTrain
11-03-2020, 02:33 PM
There's 2 more votes for Trump and a straight Red ticket.

13037

Think I'll find out where Moonbat Central is in Anchorage and stake it out with my gopro!

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 04:17 PM
Biden's campaign saying they can win without FL and PA.

AZ looking good, and Trump's got the upper hand in NV and MI, too.

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/03/final-call-shy-vote-pollsters-predict-solid-trump-win/

Abbey Marie
11-03-2020, 04:20 PM
We aren’t sure who our usually Republican daughter voted for. It would NOT be Biden, possibly Trump, but maybe third party.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 04:26 PM
Biden pulling this off without PA and FL just isn't going to happen.

They'd have to run the table on all of the other swing states and that's a pipe dream.

Maybe a Hunter Crack Pipe dream? He could be camped out in Joe's basement issuing prophecies from the Cocaine Closet over by the pantry.

LongTermGuy
11-03-2020, 04:31 PM
"There’s a massive Trump parade happening in Nigeria with thousands of people.This President is loved around the world!"

Abbey Marie
11-03-2020, 04:33 PM
We have to win, so we Republican Chumps can get back to what we do best- hating all sick folks, Blacks, Hispanics, foreigners, the poor, the handicapped, children, and women.

Kathianne
11-03-2020, 04:34 PM
We have to win, so we Republican Chumps can get back to what we do best- hating all sick folks, Blacks, Hispanics, foreigners, the poor, the handicapped, children, and women.
:laugh2:

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 04:35 PM
"There’s a massive Trump parade happening in Nigeria with thousands of people.This President is loved around the world!"

That surprised me, but then I remembered that Seal Team 6 just went over there and cleaned up a small infestation of local terrorists for them while rescuing an American a couple days ago.

Seems they'd like more Law and Order around those parts, too! :salute:

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 04:38 PM
We have to win, so we Republican Chumps can get back to what we do best- hating all sick folks, Blacks, Hispanics, foreigners, the poor, the handicapped, children, and women.

Misogyny for thee and for me!

Don't forget clubbing baby seals. That's the cornerstone trait of any self respecting NeoCon.

Kathianne
11-03-2020, 04:38 PM
On a real life observation:

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/123050917_10158879763143485_8219412501911764534_o. jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=w3b4BygdBCoAX9LxiqE&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=3929eea3319e87e98608ea6fa2d762e2&oe=5FC8380F

Abbey Marie
11-03-2020, 04:39 PM
Misogyny for thee and for me!

Don't forget clubbing baby seals. That's the cornerstone trait of any self respecting NeoCon.

Love the AK perspective!

:laugh2:

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 04:51 PM
Looking great all around - and now it's 10 minutes to 5pm East Coast, and you know what that means.

All of the hardworking Trump voters are getting off work and the Red votes are going to pour in.

icansayit
11-03-2020, 05:14 PM
Looking great all around - and now it's 10 minutes to 5pm East Coast, and you know what that means.

All of the hardworking Trump voters are getting off work and the Red votes are going to pour in.

Here in CAVirginia...the Gov. made Election day a Holiday...no traffic, looks like everybody who was gonna vote....Already did.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 06:16 PM
Republicans now up over 200k and climbing in FL.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 07:22 PM
KY and Indiana just called for Trump.:thumb:

SassyLady
11-03-2020, 07:39 PM
KY and Indiana just called for Trump.:thumb:

How many Electoral votes?

Kathianne
11-03-2020, 07:43 PM
How many Electoral votes?
13 so has fl leaning Biden

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 08:10 PM
13 so has fl leaning Biden

Right now in FL :

Trump : 49.6%
Biden : 49.4%

But remember, the working class votes are about to hit.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 08:12 PM
Democrats set fire to $88 million to take out McConnell... and lost by 25 points, lol.

Ahhhh good times!

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 08:13 PM
SC called for Trump.

SassyLady
11-03-2020, 08:15 PM
woo-hoo! Trump ahead in FL

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 08:28 PM
woo-hoo! Trump ahead in FL

FL just called for Trump!

Okay, I'm cracking my Crown Royal. It's go time!

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 08:32 PM
Trump pulling away in NC.

SassyLady
11-03-2020, 08:55 PM
As of now Trump is ahead in popular vote as well.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 09:00 PM
OH called for Trump.

What's this? VA in play?

Ohhhh myyyyyy

icansayit
11-03-2020, 10:03 PM
As of now Trump is ahead in popular vote as well.


Do ya think all of the Hillary fans will insist the President WON if he gets an overwhelming Popular vote?

After all. Didn't Hillary, and all of her trolls INSIST Hillary won????:laugh::laugh::laugh:

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 10:04 PM
Lindsey Graham holds his seat, comfortably.

So far we've lost 1 senate seat, but we'll pick up the AR seat.

Man, between McConnell and Graham, the moonbats really burned a LOT of cash for no good reason. $200 MILLION combined on those 2 races!

I just checked in on DU, and oh my did I chortle! Yes, the hardcore commies are about to fling themselves off a cliff en masse.

Schadenfreude, oh how I love thee!

icansayit
11-03-2020, 10:07 PM
OH called for Trump.

What's this? VA in play?

Ohhhh myyyyyy


Insists BIDEN won hands down????

Boy are they gonna be eatin a lot of CROW if their LIES fail this time??
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/73319486.jpg

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 10:20 PM
Do ya think all of the Hillary fans will insist the President WON if he gets an overwhelming Popular vote?

After all. Didn't Hillary, and all of her trolls INSIST Hillary won????:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Right now The Donald is up over a million in popular vote, not that it matters. We know that.

It would be nice if that holds, but smart candidates try to win the EC, lol.

Still, I'd enjoy being able to point out that popular vote win, just to rub their noses in it. I'm mean like that.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 10:58 PM
Trump up 13 in PA.

SassyLady
11-03-2020, 11:10 PM
I don't have fireworks, but I might go outside and fire off a couple rounds to celebrate

SassyLady
11-03-2020, 11:26 PM
OMG! Arizona just turned blue!

Sick to my stomach. We also lost senate seat.

Russ
11-03-2020, 11:32 PM
Democrats set fire to $88 million to take out McConnell... and lost by 25 points, lol.

Ahhhh good times!

And how many million did those chumps ignite in SC trying to get rid of Lindsey Graham? :laugh2:

Russ
11-03-2020, 11:37 PM
Trump currently appears to have a noticable lead in Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Texas. If that holds, it is enough to send Joe Biden off to the nearest old folks home.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 11:39 PM
OMG! Arizona just turned blue!

Sick to my stomach. We also lost senate seat.

Saw that... how disappointing. I'll look into that one. I know there's a lot of ballots still out.

NightTrain
11-03-2020, 11:41 PM
And how many million did those chumps ignite in SC trying to get rid of Lindsey Graham? :laugh2:

$200 million to unseat McConnell and Graham! /wickedevilchortle(snort!)

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 12:08 AM
OMG! Arizona just turned blue!

Sick to my stomach. We also lost senate seat.

Significant Red counties still unreported in AZ... keep the faith!

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 12:15 AM
Texas called for Trump.

Ohhh yeahhh!

Abbey Marie
11-04-2020, 12:18 AM
Texas called for Trump.

Ohhh yeahhh!


:dance:

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 12:34 AM
Biden going to declare victory at less than 270 votes? They're saying he's going to speak publicly soon

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 12:48 AM
Iowa called for Trump.

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 12:51 AM
Trump is going to speak shortly.

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 12:58 AM
MT for Trump.

PA up 13 Trump

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 01:02 AM
OMG! Arizona just turned blue!

Sick to my stomach. We also lost senate seat.

According to your Governor, 900k+ ballots haven't been counted yet and they're breaking 2:1 for Trump

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 01:12 AM
Looks like Rep. will hold the Senate, my personal concern this cycle. Collins looks like she pulled it out. GA going to have 1 runoff, the other R stays. Some good news.

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 01:14 AM
OH called for Trump.

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 01:22 AM
According to your Governor, 900k+ ballots haven't been counted yet and they're breaking 2:1 for Trump

I haven't seen other outlets calling AZ. With that said, I'm hearing the votes are mainly Maricopa and early voting. This state is beyond weird. See lots of signs aimed at Californians that have moved here.

Speaking of CA weird, I voted against both Propositions, you SassyLady?

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 01:35 AM
Abortion Barbie defeated in Texas. :2up:

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 01:38 AM
I haven't seen other outlets calling AZ. With that said, I'm hearing the votes are mainly Maricopa and early voting. This state is beyond weird. See lots of signs aimed at Californians that have moved here.

Speaking of CA weird, I voted against both Propositions, you @SassyLady (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=83)?

I voted no on everything ... including the judges.

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 01:39 AM
Looks like no more states will be called tonight. I'm going to wait for Trump's talk and then I'm going to try and sleep.

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 01:48 AM
Looks like no more states will be called tonight. I'm going to wait for Trump's talk and then I'm going to try and sleep.
Same here. I'm enjoying listening to Turley and McCarthy.

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 01:59 AM
Abortion Barbie defeated in Texas. :2up:

Who's that?

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 02:00 AM
Who's that?


Wendy Davis

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 02:00 AM
GOP holds the Senate!:thumb:

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 02:31 AM
Trump just declared victory.

It is done.

pete311
11-04-2020, 08:52 AM
Trump just declared victory.

It is done.

That isn't how it works fascist. Seriously, how can you call yourself a patriot? The president doesn't call the election. Important swing states have not reported yet and no one is at 270.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-04-2020, 09:31 AM
That isn't how it works fascist. Seriously, how can you call yourself a patriot? The president doesn't call the election. Important swing states have not reported yet and no one is at 270.

What the hell would a damn maggot like you know, about being a true patriot?
No, it is a damn vermin like you that believes the leftist media gets to call elections!
Do you know anything at all about world history?
Or are you deliberately blinded to the reality of tens of millions that have been murdered by your faithful political belief in liberalism/socialism...
The dem party is totally corrupt and totally evil and totally anti-American.
The dem party works to weaken this nation, destroy our Constitution and remake this nation-- and that asshole is treason.
So ffkkk off, vermin...
I spit on ffing arrogant blinded worms like you...... -Tyr

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 10:41 AM
That isn't how it works fascist. Seriously, how can you call yourself a patriot? The president doesn't call the election. Important swing states have not reported yet and no one is at 270.

Hilarious that you picked up on calling everyone fascists.

The president is calling the obvious that the nation sees. The swing states, enough to put Trump over the top, are right there for the taking. But no, let's call it for the evening and see how we can delay things. :rolleyes:

Pennsylvania, Trump. 54% - 44.8% for Biden
Florida, Trump. 51% - 47.8% for Biden
Ohio, Trump. 53.4 - 45.2% for Biden
Michigan - dead heat at 49% for Biden
Texas, Trump. 52.2 - 46.3% for Biden

Arizona going Biden 51% - 47%
Wisconsin going Biden 49.9 - 48.9% = 246

And then do the math.

Unless something drastically changes aka cheating - welcome to another 4 years and the end of the nation! :rolleyes:

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 10:52 AM
Hilarious that you picked up on calling everyone fascists.

The president is calling the obvious that the nation sees. The swing states, enough to put Trump over the top, are right there for the taking. But no, let's call it for the evening and see how we can delay things. :rolleyes:

Pennsylvania, Trump. 54% - 44.8% for Biden
Florida, Trump. 51% - 47.8% for Biden
Ohio, Trump. 53.4 - 45.2% for Biden
Michigan - dead heat at 49% for Biden
Texas, Trump. 52.2 - 46.3% for Biden

Arizona going Biden 51% - 47%
Wisconsin going Biden 49.9 - 48.9% = 246

And then do the math.

Unless something drastically changes aka cheating - welcome to another 4 years and the end of the nation! :rolleyes:

If Biden (238) gets Michigan (16), Wisconsin (10) and Nevada (6) he will have 270. They are all leaning blue at this time.

Trump needs one of those plus whats leaning red right now to win.

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 10:56 AM
Republicans now up over 200k and climbing in FL.

Odd, we were just told by del a few weeks back about how Biden was gonna win Florida and pointing out his large lead on RCP national averages. And Trump destroys it in Florida.

:laugh:

pete311
11-04-2020, 11:03 AM
Hilarious that you picked up on calling everyone fascists.

The president is calling the obvious that the nation sees. The swing states, enough to put Trump over the top, are right there for the taking. But no, let's call it for the evening and see how we can delay things. :rolleyes:

Pennsylvania, Trump. 54% - 44.8% for Biden
Florida, Trump. 51% - 47.8% for Biden
Ohio, Trump. 53.4 - 45.2% for Biden
Michigan - dead heat at 49% for Biden
Texas, Trump. 52.2 - 46.3% for Biden

Arizona going Biden 51% - 47%
Wisconsin going Biden 49.9 - 48.9% = 246

And then do the math.

Unless something drastically changes aka cheating - welcome to another 4 years and the end of the nation! :rolleyes:

Are you drunk Jim, seriously, you are better than this. Trump made his idiotic and unamerican statement when the swing states were still early in counting this morning. The states are still counting votes. What is so hard to understand? The counties left to report are Biden leaning. There are no reports of cheating other than your predictable claims of cheating, which seems to be itself a form of trying to cheat. Look in the mirror dude. Your mind is trying to escape reality.

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 11:04 AM
Are you drunk Jim, seriously, you are better than this. Trump made his idiotic and unamerican statement when the swing states were still early in counting this morning. The states are still counting votes. What is so hard to understand? The counties left to report are Biden leaning. There are no reports of cheating other than your predictable claims of cheating, which seems to be itself a form of trying to cheat. Look in the mirror dude. Your mind is trying to escape reality.

Angry today a tad Gregory? :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::coffee::laugh2::laugh2::l augh2:

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 11:16 AM
If Biden (238) gets Michigan (16), Wisconsin (10) and Nevada (6) he will have 270. They are all leaning blue at this time.

Trump needs one of those plus whats leaning red right now to win.

You are correct Mrs. Sassy!!

I was counting incorrectly. Using Trump states that he already won & pending states for Biden incorrectly.

So yes, the nightmare continues. Because now the path is tighter - and the shadow work all that's left. Incoming chaos has already started. The long count is here and started. Somewhere in quite a few states, unknown people to the world are out there counting ballots somehow. Several real reports already of poll watchers being tossed out, including in Pennsylvania and it's on video.

So mail-in ballots, incoming or there already, ballots from in person election day - are all being counted in who the hell knows right now. Normal stuff but for the mail ins and extensions and watchers tossed.

So now it's already going to be a fact - that whoever loses will proclaim it's been stolen. Things already going to the SC.

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 11:20 AM
Updates continued

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Election Insanity: They Stop Counting Votes?!

Trump Fury as Election Drags on

Mass Freakout After POTUS Declares Victory

Trump Win: IA, Fl, MO, OH, TX

Trump Edge: NC, PA

Tight: GA, MI

TIGHT: WI, NV

Biden Win: MN, NH, AZ, VA

Tight: Senate NC, MI

Polls Way Off

https://i.imgur.com/Kl67yS6.png

https://i.imgur.com/vfrQndv.png

https://i.imgur.com/U8WDKon.png

https://i.imgur.com/ouUjCgc.png

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/03/live-updates-election-2020-results/

tailfins
11-04-2020, 11:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ouUjCgc.png

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/03/live-updates-election-2020-results/


One practice in effective reading is to read what is NOT being said. Notice that "every vote" or "everyone's vote" does NOT mention every LEGAL vote.

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 12:17 PM
So counting and recounting and counting different avenues - now I have a worse feeling about this week and today.

Biden has no got the in roads. And what appears to be the most votes ever for a US candidate. And even Trump looks to be on pace to get more votes than any candidate in history. So in other words, a huge vote turnout this year!

227 - 213 or 238 - 213 or 214 depending on where you look today.

Michigan slightly in Biden's favor, Nevada slightly Biden's favor - both enough to take them likely. That would be 22 more for Biden. Trump is winning big in PA and would take 20pts there.

Biden up in Wisconsin by 21,000 votes and it's 10 electorates.

I don't think Georgia has been announced and it's 16 electorates, and Trump is up big there. NC and 15 electorates and don't know if called, Trump leading.

What am I missing, where am I behind at? Got a late start! :coffee:

SassyLady
11-04-2020, 01:34 PM
So counting and recounting and counting different avenues - now I have a worse feeling about this week and today.

Biden has no got the in roads. And what appears to be the most votes ever for a US candidate. And even Trump looks to be on pace to get more votes than any candidate in history. So in other words, a huge vote turnout this year!

227 - 213 or 238 - 213 or 214 depending on where you look today.

Michigan slightly in Biden's favor, Nevada slightly Biden's favor - both enough to take them likely. That would be 22 more for Biden. Trump is winning big in PA and would take 20pts there.

Biden up in Wisconsin by 21,000 votes and it's 10 electorates.

I don't think Georgia has been announced and it's 16 electorates, and Trump is up big there. NC and 15 electorates and don't know if called, Trump leading.

What am I missing, where am I behind at? Got a late start! :coffee:
Alaska

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 01:48 PM
AZ moving towards Trump. Looks like 'someone' supplied heavy R counties with Sharpies, telling them to use for ballots-ballots needed felt tip pens. So, they are looking towards recounts for fraud.

Come what may, the Senate held and seats gained in House, there won't be court packing or new states in February.

jimnyc
11-04-2020, 02:03 PM
There are no reports of cheating other than your predictable claims of cheating, which seems to be itself a form of trying to cheat.

Once again sticking only to CNN and denying articles and reports of otherwise, even if Trump poll watchers themselves reporting the news. But you say no reports. :rolleyes:

LongTermGuy
11-04-2020, 05:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmAhatGXgAYnDfC?format=jpg&name=900x900

NightTrain
11-04-2020, 06:18 PM
Yep, WI, MI and AZ need to be challenged and scrutinized... and recounted with expert observers.

Some pretty shady stuff went down and we need to get tobthe bottom of it. And then fix it.

PA was a hotbed of illegal moves, too.

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 09:20 PM
AZ moving towards Trump. Looks like 'someone' supplied heavy R counties with Sharpies, telling them to use for ballots-ballots needed felt tip pens. So, they are looking towards recounts for fraud.

Come what may, the Senate held and seats gained in House, there won't be court packing or new states in February.

Here's an article about lawsuit stemming from a Maricopa voter.

https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/11/04/exclusive-az-poll-workers-gave-voters-a-sharpie-to-vote-and-then-threw-out-her-ballot-lawsuit-claims-n1125798


Exclusive: AZ Poll Workers Gave Voters a Sharpie to Vote and Then Threw Out Their Ballots, Lawsuit Claims
BY TYLER O'NEIL NOV 04, 2020 7:56 PM ET

LongTermGuy
11-04-2020, 10:52 PM
​Joe Biden said today in his press conference that he wants "every vote to count." The

Constitution requires every LEGAL, LEGITIMATE vote to count. Make no mistake -- Democrats


want fraud to count. That's not our system...Team Trump is fighting to protect election


integrity.......

LongTermGuy
11-04-2020, 11:13 PM
...Yes, Democrats Are Trying To Steal The Election In Michigan, Wisconsin, And Pennsylvania ⁦



https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1324057763551580161/KbCiBJ2D?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/04/yes-democrats-are-trying-to-steal-the-election-in-michigan-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania/

LongTermGuy
11-04-2020, 11:18 PM
​Supreme Court Election Ruling could take 3 weeks if needed per @OANN (https://twitter.com/OANN)
Thank GOD for #AmyConeyBarrett (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmyConeyBarrett?src=hashtag_click)

Kathianne
11-04-2020, 11:53 PM
I'm seeing this settled by the SCOTUS in all likelihood. My best guess is Biden will get it. 2000 rings strong.

Change will be coming from Congress, at this point my guess is 2022 will see both houses R.

Roberts may be removed from office, the problems stem from his decisions to try and put this off, hoping for a decisive vote, when this hot mess was the most likely outcome. Still, for this he will likely convince enough votes towards the Congress being a check on the executive, the popular vote with Biden, the unrest in country, Biden is the best choice-since the Court will have to make a choice.

Not accounted for: Biden not living to January 20th, then what? To the best of my knowledge this is not yet an anticipated problem constitutionally. Trump will be out; Harris was elected/selected-BUT didn't make it through more than the beginning of the D primaries, soooo?

NightTrain
11-05-2020, 09:37 AM
This isn't over by a long shot.

I don't mind losing - if it's fair. Way too many shady things happened on the 3rd and 4th, so this will indeed end up with SCOTUS.

All those stories about refusing GOP observers to do their job? Throw them all out and invalidate them from that polling station. Do that and suddenly you'll have 100% compliance with the rules & laws from here forward.

Every ballot in AZ hand counted, sharpie or no.

A thorough 100% audit of MI, WI and PA.

This is still winnable, just remember 2000 when the DNC & Gore tried to steal the election. We're sitting pretty with Barret and our 6-3. We'll get a fair shake. SCOTUS is now Roberts-proof.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 09:54 AM
I'm seeing this settled by the SCOTUS in all likelihood. My best guess is Biden will get it. 2000 rings strong.

Change will be coming from Congress, at this point my guess is 2022 will see both houses R.

Roberts may be removed from office, the problems stem from his decisions to try and put this off, hoping for a decisive vote, when this hot mess was the most likely outcome. Still, for this he will likely convince enough votes towards the Congress being a check on the executive, the popular vote with Biden, the unrest in country, Biden is the best choice-since the Court will have to make a choice.

Not accounted for: Biden not living to January 20th, then what? To the best of my knowledge this is not yet an anticipated problem constitutionally. Trump will be out; Harris was elected/selected-BUT didn't make it through more than the beginning of the D primaries, soooo?

Same here. Looks like Biden is within 6 points and has the lead in 2 of 4 remaining? But once again shenanigans will bring questions to court. He convincingly appears to have taken the popular vote. Trump may have been eeking out and taking the electorate vote again, but then he didn't. So long as it would all report legit I would have no issue with that. Which is why I wish they just all went strong and finished.

But cut things off. Then reports of ballots coming in late, coupled with the poll watchers issues - and all they did was leave things open to be questioned.

Unless it goes to court and Trump's team even convinces me overwhelmingly, I would have to lean Biden at this point. But what if they can prove in several states that they were outright blocked? Or prove that even a handful of votes came in fraudulently in any of those last 4 states?

Unless something legit and massively happens, I see things going Biden.


This isn't over by a long shot.

I don't mind losing - if it's fair. Way too many shady things happened on the 3rd and 4th, so this will indeed end up with SCOTUS.

All those stories about refusing GOP observers to do their job? Throw them all out and invalidate them from that polling station. Do that and suddenly you'll have 100% compliance with the rules & laws from here forward.

Every ballot in AZ hand counted, sharpie or no.

A thorough 100% audit of MI, WI and PA.

This is still winnable, just remember 2000 when the DNC & Gore tried to steal the election. We're sitting pretty with Barret and our 6-3. We'll get a fair shake. SCOTUS is now Roberts-proof.

I agree. There's no doubt that all of these issue and ballots go to court. But is it more of sour grapes and wishful thinking? Or were folks literally tossed illegally & they brought in fraud votes to take over a state or states? I really don't know at this point. Gonna be a huge hurdle to overcome in the SC to take this from Biden.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 10:06 AM
Why would anyone walk right out in front like this anyway? Perhaps it's just food for the workers. Could be nothing. Could be a lame story being pushed. Could be legit. Just reporting.

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Michigan County Discovered Omitting Votes for Trump

Just an accident or mistake?

In the most divisive, contested, Presidential election in American history, the public is being told of voter irregularities happening in Detroit. But even in supposedly safe Republican areas, votes for President Trump are appearing to be suppressed, with an alleged 600 discovered today in just one Michigan precinct.

Jay Deboyer is the County Clerk for St. Clair County, which is currently 2-1 in favor of Trump, and blames hitting the “wrong button” for causing President Trump’s totals to be a significant number of votes off. This mistake is critical in Michigan where its critical 16 electoral votes are separated by 80,000 votes statewide according to the New York Times.

Michigan has 83 Counties, and St. Clair County has 163,040 people according to the Census, as of this past August there were 127,963 registered voters in the qualified voter file, the “QVF”. The County today reports 134,248 registered voters, of whom 92,670 voted in the November 3, 2020 election.

Eagle-eyed State Representative Shane Hernandez (R) spotted the vote discrepancy being reported in his home County of St. Clair, up in Michigan’s northeastern “thumb” area. Contacting his County Clerk about the apparent discrepancy in precincts Marysville 2 and 3, where it showed no absentee ballots for the President, the Clerk fixed the error and updated the totals mid-day today.

“I saw that there were missing votes in the County and worked to find them, and realized the absentees were missing,” Rep. Hernandez said. “Activists need to check every County for votes like this, this was a complicated election and the Presidency might very well come down to a few thousand votes. I was able to find these problems just sitting at home, I hope everyone looks into this and finds and fixes any problems.”

Many Michigan counties don’t properly post or make available their datasets for easy comparison and review by the public and it will take time for others with sufficient experience and skill to review the published results to ensure that they are accurately reporting President Trump’s vote.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-michigan-county-discovered-omitting-votes-trump/


Detroit Precinct Chair Says Ineligible Ballots Are being Counted — Numerous Voting Irregularities

Justin Kingen was the Chairman for Precinct 219 in Detroit and noticed multiple voting irregularities that he reported and he now says he feels helpless that anyone will care. “We were instructed not to accept ballots that were not specifically marked as received, but I saw it happen,” Kingen said. “I called the hotline they provided to us for problems, and the people there didn’t know what to do. These people were claiming they never received their live ballots, but they could have just been lying and turned them in later, it’s not possible for us to check those things at the polling places.” The 2020 election is under scrutiny in no small part to the record numbers of absentee ballots, causing chaos throughout the American election systems, with delayed reporting and difficulty in determining the authenticity of the votes cast by mail without accountability and review by objective election observers. Detroit Precinct Chairman Kingen explained, “In the poll book, these ballots were marked as sent, but we let them vote anyway. We had them sign affidavits that they wouldn’t turn in those ballots later, we wanted to let everyone vote, but now I’m skeptical even though some of these people seemed credible.”

The absentee process, sometimes referred to as the “AV” process for ‘absentee voter’, had what Kingen described as “two mere hours of training, mostly online, and a PDF document to read.”

LINK TO PDF DOCUMENT: https://archive.org/details/managing-your-precinct-on-election-day-391790-7

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-detroit-precinct-chair-says-voting-irregularities-poor-training/


Michigan County Clerk Discovers Total Votes Counted by “Election Software” DID NOT MATCH Printed Tabulator Tapes!

So this is happening.

An election clerk in Michigan discovered that the total votes counted by election software DID NOT MATCH the printed tabulator tapes.

Again — the Michigan software used to count votes is putting out incorrect totals!

Wow!

WILX reported:


The Antrim County Clerk Office noticed some inaccuracies with posted unofficial results at 4 a.m. on Tuesday. They immediately reviewed the results.

The Antrim County Clerk’s Office has been working around the clock to identify what caused the inaccuracies.

The total votes that were counted by the election software did not match printed tabulator tapes. Official results were based upon the printed tabulator tapes.

Therefore, the printed tabulated tapes from each precinct will be counted manually. The results will be deemed “official” once the independent board of canvassers verifies them.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michigan-county-clerk-discovers-total-votes-counted-election-software-not-match-printed-tabulator-tapes/


MICHIGAN POLL WATCHER: Ballots Were Turned In With No Names On Them

(Above, Democrats in Michigan trying to cover up their crimes.)

With a governor like corrupt Democrat Gretchen Whitmer it comes as no surprise that Democrats would turn in ballots with no names on them.
This is exactly why Americans voted for President Trump in overwhelming numbers. Americans are tired of Democrat corruption. We want the swamp drained.

This morning its reported that in Michigan votes were ‘turned in’ with no name on them:

https://i.imgur.com/jM1Wu71.png

Was this what was in the boxes carried into the Detroit poll counting area on Monday night?

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michigan-poll-watcher-ballots-turned-no-names/


Suitcases and Coolers Rolled Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM, Brought Into Secure Counting Area

A poll watcher filmed highly suspicious activity at a vote-counting center in Detroit at 4 a.m., the morning after election day.
In the footage, taken by Kellye SoRelle, a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump, a person in a white van was filmed loading up a red wagon outside the ballot counting location and bringing it instead.

SoRelle released the video to Texas Scorecard, because she wanted to raise “alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.”

VIDEO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh7h3w75D8U&feature=emb_logo

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-suitcases-coolers-rolled-detroit-voting-center-4-brought-secure-counting-area/

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 10:49 AM
Without a doubt, the abuses of the system are not even being hidden, but rather flaunted. It's such an affront to our Constitution and Declaration of Independence it's beyond comprehension for those of us that cherish both.

Rick is right that there are so many states, so many instances that should be addressed.

The problems? The odds of overturning certified results by the state elections are so few, even of local offices, that they are a daunting task. Second, Trump and Giuliani being themselves are beyond litigious behemoths, they are already filing so many suits; none of which can be addressed before certification happens. They are going to be pissing off judges and sad to say, the people who want answers. Claiming to have 'won' when it is still beyond clear was once again an unforced error. I understand why, but it doesn't change how it rubs folks-of both parties. Not everyone that voted for Trump loves him and many find what some find endearing, repulsive.

Biden has so many idiots being sanctimonious in regards, "How can so many have voted for the person that puts children in cages; doesn't care about families; doesn't care about the virus and 200k dead? They are horrible people! Joe wants to be president of everyone, but really needs to deal with these awful people!"

Likewise, there are those on the right that understand that these self-righteous, uneducated masses, do not understand the consequences of socialism, much less communism. We are not going to change their 'feeling judgements' they are determined to learn the hard way and take all of us with them.

So? I'm hoping that a miracle happens and enough are overturned, but prepared that it is unlikely.

Things are looking like we keep the Senate, gains in House. Have the courts. 2022, control of House.




Why would anyone walk right out in front like this anyway? Perhaps it's just food for the workers. Could be nothing. Could be a lame story being pushed. Could be legit. Just reporting.

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Michigan County Discovered Omitting Votes for Trump

Just an accident or mistake?

In the most divisive, contested, Presidential election in American history, the public is being told of voter irregularities happening in Detroit. But even in supposedly safe Republican areas, votes for President Trump are appearing to be suppressed, with an alleged 600 discovered today in just one Michigan precinct.

Jay Deboyer is the County Clerk for St. Clair County, which is currently 2-1 in favor of Trump, and blames hitting the “wrong button” for causing President Trump’s totals to be a significant number of votes off. This mistake is critical in Michigan where its critical 16 electoral votes are separated by 80,000 votes statewide according to the New York Times.

Michigan has 83 Counties, and St. Clair County has 163,040 people according to the Census, as of this past August there were 127,963 registered voters in the qualified voter file, the “QVF”. The County today reports 134,248 registered voters, of whom 92,670 voted in the November 3, 2020 election.

Eagle-eyed State Representative Shane Hernandez (R) spotted the vote discrepancy being reported in his home County of St. Clair, up in Michigan’s northeastern “thumb” area. Contacting his County Clerk about the apparent discrepancy in precincts Marysville 2 and 3, where it showed no absentee ballots for the President, the Clerk fixed the error and updated the totals mid-day today.

“I saw that there were missing votes in the County and worked to find them, and realized the absentees were missing,” Rep. Hernandez said. “Activists need to check every County for votes like this, this was a complicated election and the Presidency might very well come down to a few thousand votes. I was able to find these problems just sitting at home, I hope everyone looks into this and finds and fixes any problems.”

Many Michigan counties don’t properly post or make available their datasets for easy comparison and review by the public and it will take time for others with sufficient experience and skill to review the published results to ensure that they are accurately reporting President Trump’s vote.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-michigan-county-discovered-omitting-votes-trump/


Detroit Precinct Chair Says Ineligible Ballots Are being Counted — Numerous Voting Irregularities

Justin Kingen was the Chairman for Precinct 219 in Detroit and noticed multiple voting irregularities that he reported and he now says he feels helpless that anyone will care. “We were instructed not to accept ballots that were not specifically marked as received, but I saw it happen,” Kingen said. “I called the hotline they provided to us for problems, and the people there didn’t know what to do. These people were claiming they never received their live ballots, but they could have just been lying and turned them in later, it’s not possible for us to check those things at the polling places.” The 2020 election is under scrutiny in no small part to the record numbers of absentee ballots, causing chaos throughout the American election systems, with delayed reporting and difficulty in determining the authenticity of the votes cast by mail without accountability and review by objective election observers. Detroit Precinct Chairman Kingen explained, “In the poll book, these ballots were marked as sent, but we let them vote anyway. We had them sign affidavits that they wouldn’t turn in those ballots later, we wanted to let everyone vote, but now I’m skeptical even though some of these people seemed credible.”

The absentee process, sometimes referred to as the “AV” process for ‘absentee voter’, had what Kingen described as “two mere hours of training, mostly online, and a PDF document to read.”

LINK TO PDF DOCUMENT: https://archive.org/details/managing-your-precinct-on-election-day-391790-7

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-detroit-precinct-chair-says-voting-irregularities-poor-training/


Michigan County Clerk Discovers Total Votes Counted by “Election Software” DID NOT MATCH Printed Tabulator Tapes!

So this is happening.

An election clerk in Michigan discovered that the total votes counted by election software DID NOT MATCH the printed tabulator tapes.

Again — the Michigan software used to count votes is putting out incorrect totals!

Wow!

WILX reported:



Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michigan-county-clerk-discovers-total-votes-counted-election-software-not-match-printed-tabulator-tapes/


MICHIGAN POLL WATCHER: Ballots Were Turned In With No Names On Them

(Above, Democrats in Michigan trying to cover up their crimes.)

With a governor like corrupt Democrat Gretchen Whitmer it comes as no surprise that Democrats would turn in ballots with no names on them.
This is exactly why Americans voted for President Trump in overwhelming numbers. Americans are tired of Democrat corruption. We want the swamp drained.

This morning its reported that in Michigan votes were ‘turned in’ with no name on them:

https://i.imgur.com/jM1Wu71.png

Was this what was in the boxes carried into the Detroit poll counting area on Monday night?

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michigan-poll-watcher-ballots-turned-no-names/


Suitcases and Coolers Rolled Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM, Brought Into Secure Counting Area

A poll watcher filmed highly suspicious activity at a vote-counting center in Detroit at 4 a.m., the morning after election day.
In the footage, taken by Kellye SoRelle, a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump, a person in a white van was filmed loading up a red wagon outside the ballot counting location and bringing it instead.

SoRelle released the video to Texas Scorecard, because she wanted to raise “alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.”

VIDEO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh7h3w75D8U&feature=emb_logo

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-suitcases-coolers-rolled-detroit-voting-center-4-brought-secure-counting-area/

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 11:12 AM
Without a doubt, the abuses of the system are not even being hidden, but rather flaunted. It's such an affront to our Constitution and Declaration of Independence it's beyond comprehension for those of us that cherish both.

Rick is right that there are so many states, so many instances that should be addressed.

The problems? The odds of overturning certified results by the state elections are so few, even of local offices, that they are a daunting task. Second, Trump and Giuliani being themselves are beyond litigious behemoths, they are already filing so many suits; none of which can be addressed before certification happens. They are going to be pissing off judges and sad to say, the people who want answers. Claiming to have 'won' when it is still beyond clear was once again an unforced error. I understand why, but it doesn't change how it rubs folks-of both parties. Not everyone that voted for Trump loves him and many find what some find endearing, repulsive.

Biden has so many idiots being sanctimonious in regards, "How can so many have voted for the person that puts children in cages; doesn't care about families; doesn't care about the virus and 200k dead? They are horrible people! Joe wants to be president of everyone, but really needs to deal with these awful people!"

Likewise, there are those on the right that understand that these self-righteous, uneducated masses, do not understand the consequences of socialism, much less communism. We are not going to change their 'feeling judgements' they are determined to learn the hard way and take all of us with them.

So? I'm hoping that a miracle happens and enough are overturned, but prepared that it is unlikely.

Things are looking like we keep the Senate, gains in House. Have the courts. 2022, control of House.

Great analysis! Tough to argue with any of that, nor would I want to!

About how I see it. The house is dems and the right gained many more than was thought. The senate stays republican, thankfully. The SC has a great edge for the right. The election, IMO, will be way too difficult to overcome. Seeing some weird things, reporting on what one really doesn't know facts about... Millions of votes more in the popular vote. They would basically need direct proof of wrongdoing, eliminating votes to the point that it leaves Trump with the lead. I don't see that happening.

Biden appears to still have a decent lead in Arizona, and basically called for him already and then wasn't. 86% reported
0.7 final for Biden in Wisconsin.
0.6 lead in Nevada. 86% reported

1.4 final for Trump in NC.
0.4 final for Trump in Georgia
2.1 lead for Trump in Pennsylvania. 91% reported

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Then going forward. I further see the republicans taking the house in 2022. I'm not prepared for senate bet just yet. And both the senate and presidency will be decided by how this entire Biden/Harris/Socialist team pans out. If things are slow go for Biden and things are mysteriously handed out in the background and far too many things are NOT transparent - then the senate and presidency both go republican. But if they magically do well?

Gonna be tough and likely up to the economy. After the performance of Trump in office - they better hope they continue that path for the next 4 years or I believe that decides the next election.

And no, haven't given up yet! Still drinking my coffee and gaining energy!! :) Just thinking and posting realistically. I wish I could deflect with a one sentence when things not my way, but that's not my way. :)

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 11:13 AM
Scott Walker on Wisconsin recount. 'Came close once, significant error.' I do not think what's gone on in this election is all due to human error, as I said earlier, any attempts at corruption are not being hidden, but seem to be relished. At the same time, it's hard to change results:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/05/scott-walker-dont-count-recount-rescue-wisconsin/


Scott Walker: Don’t Count On A Recount Rescue In Wisconsin
ED MORRISSEYPosted at 9:10 am on November 5, 2020

Take it from a man who’s been around the Wisconsin voting system a few times himself, including a recanvass or two. Scott Walker explains the problems with scope and scale in recounts to CBS This Morning, and at the same time debunks a hypothesis floating around in social-media circles. What might actually help is a recanvass, a check of numbers from each precinct that might have introduced error into the state voting counts.


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Had he ever seen a recanvass correction on a scale that might overcome a 20,000-vote gap? Actually, one did come close nine years ago, Walker explains:




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“Typically when you have problems out there,” Walker explains, “it’s not corruption. It’s somebody made an error.” A recount would correct that, but a recanvass would take place first, and that would correct it more easily.


How about a recount? “Is there any record,” Walker was asked, “of any error large enough to actually change the outcome in Wisconsin?”


“Close as you’ve got in 2011,” Walker replied, “was about 14,000 votes. That’s shy of the 21,000, but it’s at least in the ballpark.” That came in a Wisconsin Supreme Court election, and it was an error that actually impacted the election outcome.


What about reports of votes in precincts exceeding the the number of registered voters prior to the election? Some people, including members of Donald Trump’s political team, point to those precincts as evidence of fraud. The answer is likely much simpler; as Walker explains, Wisconsin allows same-day voter registration, so this may not even be an error. Walker also points out that the Trump campaign really drove new voter registrations in their ground game and GOTV efforts, so that may in fact be part of where Trump’s strength originated in Wisconsin on Tuesday.


PolitiFact pointed out the same thing yesterday:


Wisconsin is one of 19 states (along with the District of Columbia) that allow same-day voter registration. That means the correct comparison is eligible voters, not registered ones.


More than 3.6 million Wisconsinites were registered to vote as of Nov. 1, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission. That was two days before the election.


The number of people turning out across the state topped 3.2 million, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported — the most votes ever cast in a Wisconsin election, with at least 71% of the state’s voting-age adults casting ballots. (Not quite the highest percentage-wise).


The Wisconsin Elections Commission weighed in on Twitter later in the morning, explaining that registration numbers reported by counties can be off because of same-day voter registration.


In high-turnout, high-energy elections, more people will register for the first time, and likely that will result in votes exceeding the previous number of registered voters. In same-day registration, we can be reasonably sure of 100% turnout among those newly registered voters, after all. There are reasons to worry about vote security with same-day registrations — say, people who are trying to vote twice or who are ineligible to vote at all casting ballots — but the above complaint is simply without merit.


Let’s get back to recounts, which are almost always extremely limited in terms of impact. They do matter when gaps are in the hundreds, but rarely have an impact outside of that scope. If a recanvass doesn’t turn up a data-entry error, don’t put much hope into a recount. Even Al Franken couldn’t change more than 500 votes in Minnesota when Republicans were taken unaware by the aggressive ballot challenges his team made. It’s just that 500 was all Franken needed to change.



yep, the Franken result is the one I keep seeing cited, but as stated, 500 votes.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 11:36 AM
On unforced errors, just tweeted:




Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
11m
All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 11:37 AM
Scott Walker on Wisconsin recount. 'Came close once, significant error.' I do not think what's gone on in this election is all due to human error, as I said earlier, any attempts at corruption are not being hidden, but seem to be relished. At the same time, it's hard to change results:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/05/scott-walker-dont-count-recount-rescue-wisconsin/


yep, the Franken result is the one I keep seeing cited, but as stated, 500 votes.

That's the issue - changing is far too difficult. Some votes here and there? Yeah, possible. But to overturn an election or state electorate? Tough to overcome that IMO.

This is exactly why they allow for watchers at the tables with incoming votes and allowing for questions and refusals at the time. They should have allowed for all watchers on both sides throughout and finish each state on election evening no matter how late.

Watcher issues, police brought in, standing at distances where you can't even see the ballots... then counting stopping, talk of ballots incoming after the fact... and if watchers aren't there and ballots come in by the buckets load?

Then you have human error, I can get that, it happens when you're talking millions and millions of ballots. But hell, that's why so many folks helping and so many watchers. But like you said, those are smaller potatoes. It's the actual fraud that is the issue. The fraud they say doesn't exist. :rolleyes: Without watchers and a bucket load going in, the counting overnight and a lead change - what are you going to do? Other than bring it to light if you see it, announce it and maybe take it to court - but then what? Do you have it on film? Some things are in fact caught on film. But if ballots come in and folks are ultimately blocked from the counting area - then the following stops there. And no solid proof for either side, just accusations and denials.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 11:47 AM
That's the issue - changing is far too difficult. Some votes here and there? Yeah, possible. But to overturn an election or state electorate? Tough to overcome that IMO.

This is exactly why they allow for watchers at the tables with incoming votes and allowing for questions and refusals at the time. They should have allowed for all watchers on both sides throughout and finish each state on election evening no matter how late.

Watcher issues, police brought in, standing at distances where you can't even see the ballots... then counting stopping, talk of ballots incoming after the fact... and if watchers aren't there and ballots come in by the buckets load?

Then you have human error, I can get that, it happens when you're talking millions and millions of ballots. But hell, that's why so many folks helping and so many watchers. But like you said, those are smaller potatoes. It's the actual fraud that is the issue. The fraud they say doesn't exist. :rolleyes: Without watchers and a bucket load going in, the counting overnight and a lead change - what are you going to do? Other than bring it to light if you see it, announce it and maybe take it to court - but then what? Do you have it on film? Some things are in fact caught on film. But if ballots come in and folks are ultimately blocked from the counting area - then the following stops there. And no solid proof for either side, just accusations and denials.

I'm no lawyer, but when I saw what was happening in Detroit with watchers and same with PA I believe, I was sort of surprised they didn't make some petition for relief or whatever for immediate action from courts. But didn't hear of anything other than complaints, videos and (I'm sorry), whining about abuses. Seemed clear cut that intervention was needed, immediately.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 12:09 PM
I'm no lawyer, but when I saw what was happening in Detroit with watchers and same with PA I believe, I was sort of surprised they didn't make some petition for relief or whatever for immediate action from courts. But didn't hear of anything other than complaints, videos and (I'm sorry), whining about abuses. Seemed clear cut that intervention was needed, immediately.

They did - and were denied by democrat judges. That's why they immediately took it to higher courts aka SC. Or so I heard. But I've literally read about 70000000 articles from both right and left sources and my brain is a little frazzled right now! :laugh2: But this was always destined for the SC if it were remotely close, IMO.

I think just like the Democrats of the past 4 years, and the MSM of the last 4 years and the social media.... you get the idea.... if you see an opportunity, just take it. And they did. So they blocked watchers it would appear. And complaints of incoming ballots, unsigned ballots. The right complained to deaf ears and then off to courts.

But questions are - was there in fact watchers illegally blocked, and if so, how and can you prove it in any of the states? Did any at all ballots come in that weren't legal? And same, if so, can you even prove any of it?

Quite a few states with watchers blocked and quite a few with complaints of folks seeing things coming in within the middle of the night. All coincidence? All legit lefty cheating? Or perhaps all complaints that don't hold water? What can be PROVEN is what it comes down to I guess.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 12:45 PM
They did - and were denied by democrat judges. That's why they immediately took it to higher courts aka SC. Or so I heard. But I've literally read about 70000000 articles from both right and left sources and my brain is a little frazzled right now! :laugh2: But this was always destined for the SC if it were remotely close, IMO.

I think just like the Democrats of the past 4 years, and the MSM of the last 4 years and the social media.... you get the idea.... if you see an opportunity, just take it. And they did. So they blocked watchers it would appear. And complaints of incoming ballots, unsigned ballots. The right complained to deaf ears and then off to courts.

But questions are - was there in fact watchers illegally blocked, and if so, how and can you prove it in any of the states? Did any at all ballots come in that weren't legal? And same, if so, can you even prove any of it?

Quite a few states with watchers blocked and quite a few with complaints of folks seeing things coming in within the middle of the night. All coincidence? All legit lefty cheating? Or perhaps all complaints that don't hold water? What can be PROVEN is what it comes down to I guess.
I’m at grocery. I didn’t hear of any court pleas other than election judges, I goofed somewhere. Will go look when home. We know it’s not happening with me and phone. 🤪

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 12:49 PM
I’m at grocery. I didn’t hear of any court pleas other than election judges, I goofed somewhere. Will go look when home. We know it’s not happening with me and phone. 🤪

I could be wrong Kath! It may have been Michigan or even both for all I know. And I know in PA they went to the courts but only got a decision to get closer to the ballot counting, that was it.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 01:28 PM
I could be wrong Kath! It may have been Michigan or even both for all I know. And I know in PA they went to the courts but only got a decision to get closer to the ballot counting, that was it.

Again, I'm not a lawyer. Here's what I found, there's additional sources, all around the same time:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-seeks-voting-stop-25762f69b27dfbccc4fd8077fb5fdc91

It looks to me he was filing all these at the same time, while it would seem that the whole thing with Republican overseers was an emergency that needed to be acted upon immediately?


Trump sues in 3 states, laying ground for contesting outcome
By MARK SHERMAN
today

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s campaign filed lawsuits Wednesday in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia, laying the groundwork for contesting battleground states as he slipped behind Democrat Joe Biden in the hunt for the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the White House.


The new filings, joining existing Republican legal challenges in Pennsylvania and Nevada, demand better access for campaign observers to locations where ballots are being processed and counted, and raise absentee ballot concerns, the campaign said. However, at one Michigan location in question The Associated Press observed poll watchers from both sides monitoring on Wednesday.


The AP called Michigan for Democrat Joe Biden on Wednesday. Nevada, Pennsylvania and Georgia are undecided.


The Trump campaign also is seeking to intervene in a Pennsylvania case at the Supreme Court that deals with whether ballots received up to three days after the election can be counted, deputy campaign manager Justin Clark said.


The actions reveal an emerging legal strategy that the president had signaled for weeks, namely that he would attack the integrity of the voting process in states where the result could mean his defeat.


His campaign also announced that it would ask for a recount in Wisconsin, a state the AP called for Biden on Wednesday afternoon. Campaign manager Bill Stepien cited “irregularities in several Wisconsin counties,” without providing specifics.


Biden said Wednesday the count should continue in all states, adding, “No one’s going to take our democracy away from us — not now, not ever.”


Campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said legal challenges were not the behavior of a winning campaign.


“What makes these charades especially pathetic is that while Trump is demanding recounts in places he has already lost, he’s simultaneously engaged in fruitless attempts to halt the counting of votes in other states in which he’s on the road to defeat,” Bates said in a statement.


Election officials continued to count votes across the country, the normal process on the day following voting. Unlike in previous years, states were contending with an avalanche of mail ballots driven by fears of voting in person during a pandemic. At least 103 million people voted early, either by mail or in-person, representing 74% of the total votes cast in the 2016 presidential election.


The Trump campaign said it is calling for a temporary halt in the counting in Michigan and Pennsylvania until it is given “meaningful” access in numerous locations and allowed to review ballots that already have been opened and processed.


The AP’s Michigan call for Biden came after the suit was filed. The president is ahead in Pennsylvania but his margin is shrinking as more mailed ballots are counted.


There have been no reports of fraud or any type of ballot concerns out of Pennsylvania. The state had 3.1 million mail-in ballots that take time to count and an order allows them to be received and counted up until Friday if they are postmarked by Nov. 3.


Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said in a CNN interview the lawsuit was “more a political document than a legal document.”


“There is transparency in this process. The counting has been going on. There are observers observing this counting, and the counting will continue,” he said.


The Michigan lawsuit claims Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, was allowing absentee ballots to be counted without teams of bipartisan observers as well as challengers. She’s accused of undermining the “constitutional right of all Michigan voters ... to participate in fair and lawful elections.” Michigan Democrats said the suit was a longshot.


Poll watchers from both sides were plentiful Wednesday at one major polling place in question — the TCF Center in Detroit, The Associated Press observed. They checked in at a table near the entrance to the convention center’s Hall E and strolled among the tables where ballot processing was taking place. In some cases, they arrived en masse and huddled together for a group discussion before fanning out to the floor. Uniformed Detroit police officers were on hand to make sure everyone was behaving.


Mark Brewer, a former state Democratic chairman who said he was observing the Detroit vote counting as a volunteer lawyer, said he had been at the TCF arena all day and had talked with others who had been there the past couple of days. He said Republicans had not been denied access.


“This is the best absentee ballot counting operation that Detroit has ever had. They are counting ballots very efficiently, despite the obstructing tactics of the Republicans.”


GOP lawyers had already launched legal challenges involving absentee votes in Pennsylvania and Nevada, contesting local decisions that could take on national significance in the close election.


In one appeal to a Pennsylvania appellate court, the Trump campaign complained that one of its representatives was prevented from seeing the writing on mail-in ballots that were being opened and processed in Philadelphia. A judge in Philadelphia dismissed it, saying that poll observers are directed to observe, not audit.


The Georgia lawsuit filed in Chatham County essentially asks a judge to ensure the state laws are being followed on absentee ballots. Campaign officials said they were considering peppering a dozen other counties around the state with similar claims around absentee ballots.


Trump, addressing supporters at the White House early Wednesday, talked about taking the undecided race to the Supreme Court. Though it was unclear what he meant, his comments evoked a reprise of the court’s intervention in the 2000 presidential election that ended with a decision effectively handing the presidency to George W. Bush.


But there are important differences from 2000 and they already were on display. In 2000, Republican-controlled Florida was the critical state and Bush clung to a small lead. Democrat Al Gore asked for a recount and the Supreme Court stopped it.


To some election law experts, calling for the Supreme Court to intervene now seemed premature, if not rash.


A case would have to come to the court from a state in which the outcome would determine the election’s winner, Richard Hasen, a University of California, Irvine, law professor, wrote on the Election Law blog. The difference between the candidates’ vote totals would have to be smaller than the ballots at stake in the lawsuit


“As of this moment (though things can change) it does not appear that either condition will be met,” Hasen wrote.


Ohio State University election law professor Edward Foley wrote on Twitter Wednesday: “The valid votes will be counted. (The Supreme Court) would be involved only if there were votes of questionable validity that would make a difference, which might not be the case. The rule of law will determine the official winner of the popular vote in each state. Let the rule of law work.”


Biden campaign attorney Bob Bauer said if Trump goes to the high court, “he will be in for one of the most embarrassing defeats a president has ever suffered by the highest court in the land.”


The justices could decide to step into the dispute over the three-day extension for absentee ballots if they prove crucial to the outcome in Pennsylvania.


Even a small number of contested votes could matter if a state determines the winner of the election and the gap between Trump and Biden is small.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 01:44 PM
Again, I'm not a lawyer. Here's what I found, there's additional sources, all around the same time:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-seeks-voting-stop-25762f69b27dfbccc4fd8077fb5fdc91

It looks to me he was filing all these at the same time, while it would seem that the whole thing with Republican overseers was an emergency that needed to be acted upon immediately?

I read a spectacular amount of lawsuits. Like 293 in total - but that included pre-election activities. I'm having trouble finding a specific list from just election day or yesterday.

Doesn't matter I guess. What matters now is going forward, what if anything can be proven, if there was anything illegal & who is declared winner.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 01:46 PM
Finally?

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/05/hmmm-scotus-orders-pennsylvania-respond-gop-lawsuit-tonight/

Hmmm: SCOTUS Orders Pennsylvania To Respond To GOP Lawsuit By Tonight; Update: Dems Philly Appeals Observer Order?
ED MORRISSEYPosted at 11:29 am on November 5, 2020

Third time’s the charm? The Supreme Court has punted twice (https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/10/20/scotus-allows-3-day-extension-pa-ballots/) on the issue of Pennsylvania’s decisions to ignore statutory deadlines and signature requirements (https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/10/24/pennsylvania-court-dumps-voter-signature-requirements-ballots/) for ballot counting. Republicans once again petitioned for their intervention after the state proceeded with the ballot counting while violating those statutes. Late yesterday, the Trump campaign joined the lawsuit, and the Supreme Court instructed Pennsylvania to respond (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/4/supreme-court-orders-pennsylvania-democrats-respon/) — and pronto, reports the Washington Times:



The Supreme Court ordered Pennsylvania Democrats to respond by Thursday evening in a case challenging the state’s three-day extension for counting mail-in ballots.


President Trump has moved to intervene in a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania Republicans, arguing the state’s Democratic Party and Secretary of State violated the law by extending the time for counting mail-in ballots to Nov. 6 at 5 p.m., despite the state legislature setting the deadline as Election Day.

That suggests that the now-complete court has at least four members who want to take these issues up a third time. That’s no big surprise, since the earlier pass on the deadline issue came on a 4-4 split that left in place the state supreme court decisions overriding the statutes. Had John Roberts stuck with the conservatives/textualists on the court then, Pennsylvania could have avoided the issue altogether by instructing voters to walk in their ballots by Election Day instead. That’s exactly what Minnesota did (https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-won-t-challenge-ballot-deadline-ruling-from-scotus/572930741/?refresh=true) after the Eighth Circuit put the kibosh on a deadline extension (https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/10/30/say-whats-biden-minnesota-today/) issued by the Secretary of State, and Election Day went without a hitch here.








The deadline also suggests that at least four of the justices want a chance to rule on this before the state adds those ballots to the rest of the votes. For the moment, those ballots are still being sequestered by order of the state supreme court. The state is likely to commingle them after the deadline passes, so any action the Supreme Court takes will have to be decisive and quick. But will it be decisive or quick? Legal observers are somewhat skeptical (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-legal-challenges-seem-unlikely-to-make-headway/ar-BB1aHFnT):



“The hope is that these Hail Mary legal plays could lead to court intervention to throw out votes and help Trump capture one of these states. This is possible but very unlikely,“ UC Irvine law Professor Richard Hasen said Wednesday on his “Election Law” blog (https://electionlawblog.org/).


One reason, he said, is that even a Trump legal victory in Pennsylvania, the state whose case has already reached the high court, may not be enough to affect the results either statewide or nationwide. If Democrat Joe Biden holds his lead in other contested states, including Nevada and Arizona, he would not need Pennsylvania to win the White House. …


Michael McConnell, a Stanford constitutional law professor and former federal appeals court judge, said Wednesday he could not think of any valid legal argument to stop ballot-counting.


“At most, courts might order that Trump representatives be permitted to observe if they are being wrongfully excluded, and perhaps even to review some of the ballots already counted,” but not to halt the counts or discard the ballots, McConnell said. “If Biden wins without Pennsylvania, I think we will be spared the 2000 spectacle.”


Worth noting: McConnell was appointed to the appellate bench by George W, Bush in 2002, and was considered a leading contender for a future Supreme Court nomination (http://www.legalaffairs.org/webexclusive/debateclub_cj20605.msp). He’s also an originalist, and an outspoken originalist at that. Had Bush nominated McConnell instead of John Roberts, we might have a very different looking court today.


McConnell turned out to be prophetic about the issue of observers in Pennsylvania (https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/reversed_remanded-order.pdf). An appellate judge has ordered the state to provide access to the ballot counting:



AND NOW, November 5, 2020, upon review of arguments contained in briefs submitted by Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. (Appellant), the Philadelphia County Board of Elections, and the Pennsylvania Democratic Party, it is hereby ORDERED that the November 4, 2020 order of the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County (trial court) denying Appellant’s oral motion to allow closer observation of the canvassing of ballots is REVERSED. The matter is REMANDED to the trial court to enter an ORDER no later than 10:30 a.m. today, November 5, 2020, effective immediately, requiring that all candidates, watchers, or candidate representatives be permitted to be present for the canvassing process pursuant to 25 P.S. § 2650 and/or 25 P.S. § 3146.8 and be permitted to observe all aspects of the canvassing process within 6 feet, while adhering to all COVID-19 protocols, including, wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. Opinion to follow.


Team Trump heralded this as a victory:



“In a major victory for election integrity, election transparency, all Pennsylvania voters, and the rule of law, the Trump Campaign has prevailed in our suit challenging our Republican poll watchers’ complete lack of any meaningful access to the ballot processing and counting process.


“The eyes of the country are on Pennsylvania, but Pennsylvania Democrats, led by their radical left Secretary of State whose only goal is to steal this election from President Trump, has kept eyes off of the absentee ballot counting process. That ends now in Philadelphia.


“As a result of this incredible legal victory, the lower court’s order has been reversed. Now, according to the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, ‘all candidates, watchers, or candidate representatives’ shall ‘be permitted to be present for the canvassing process’ and ‘be permitted to observe all aspects of the canvassing process within 6 feet, while adhering to all COVID-19 protocols, including, wearing masks and maintaining social distancing.’


“For the good of the nation, every Pennsylvania county should follow the lead of this judge and provide access for observers to ensure transparency and integrity in Pennsylvania. That is the only way to ensure a fair, transparent election in which all Pennsylvania voters can have confidence their vote will count.”


Observers from both parties should have had access to this process all along. It won’t stop the process, though, so the impact of this victory will be limited to just information gathering for the big legal issue. Stay tuned to see whether the Supreme Court’s originalists intervene … or agree with McConnell.


Update: Why are Democrats appealing an order to allow observers from both parties?








That’s very odd. If this halts the count, it makes it easier for the Supreme Court to intervene, too.


Update: Micek corrects his reporting — it was the city of Philadelphia that appealed the decision, not the Democrats. Supposedly it was over COVID-19 distancing:




That doesn’t make a lot of sense, though. The order explicitly required everyone to adhere to safety guidelines for COVID-19. They already are supposedly doing this in the counting rooms … so why appeal the order at all?

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 01:49 PM
I read a spectacular amount of lawsuits. Like 293 in total - but that included pre-election activities. I'm having trouble finding a specific list from just election day or yesterday.

Doesn't matter I guess. What matters now is going forward, what if anything can be proven, if there was anything illegal & who is declared winner.

That is my point too! The observers were on the ground, with credentials, being denied their right to observe and challenge ballots. That to me is on the order of run it to a judge and get an immediate ruling to enforce their rights, bringing enforcers, (police) with you.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 02:04 PM
But even suppose they were successful with the issue in Pennsylvania - looks like according to RCP that he has PA anyway 50.3 - 48.6 - Same at Yahoo. So would it even mean anything, other than proof of something?

Biden has around an 11k+ lead in Nevada,
Biden up 69k votes in Arizona
Michigan is Biden

I think the one that matters is Nevada, and Biden doing well there?

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 02:09 PM
But even suppose they were successful with the issue in Pennsylvania - looks like according to RCP that he has PA anyway 50.3 - 48.6 - Same at Yahoo. So would it even mean anything, other than proof of something?

Biden has around an 11k+ lead in Nevada,
Biden up 69k votes in Arizona
Michigan is Biden

I think the one that matters is Nevada, and Biden doing well there?

Sorry about the source. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden




Updated Nov. 5, 2020, 2:06 p.m. ET2 minutes ago
2 minutes ago
Election Highlights: Biden Widens Lead in Nevada and Is Closing the Gap in Georgia
States that have yet to declare a winner are releasing more results Thursday, offering a clearer picture of the state of the contest.
RIGHT NOW
Jon Ossoff’s campaign is ‘confident’ Georgia Senate race is headed for a runoff as Perdue hovers near 50 percent. (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#jon-ossoffs-campaign-is-confident-georgia-senate-race-is-headed-for-a-runoff-as-perdue-hovers-near-50-percent)



Here’s what you need to know:

With the presidency hanging in the balance, the counting continued, and Biden’s lead in Nevada grew.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#with-the-presidency-hanging-in-the-balance-the-counting-continued-and-bidens-lead-in-nevada-grew)
Georgia: Biden closes in on Trump, with a final result expected today.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#georgia-biden-closes-in-on-trump-with-a-final-result-expected-today)
The path to 270: Here is the state of play in states that could decide the presidency.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#the-path-to-270-here-is-the-state-of-play-in-states-that-could-decide-the-presidency)
Nevada: Biden widens his advantage in a surprising battleground.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#nevada-biden-widens-his-advantage-in-a-surprising-battleground)
Pennsylvania: Biden chips away at Trump’s lead with votes still left to tally.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#pennsylvania-biden-chips-away-at-trumps-lead-with-votes-still-left-to-tally)
Arizona: Biden’s lead narrows, and more results will come tonight.
(https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#arizona-bidens-lead-narrows-and-more-results-will-come-tonight)


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With the presidency hanging in the balance, the counting continued, and Biden’s lead in Nevada grew. (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden#with-the-presidency-hanging-in-the-balance-the-counting-continued-and-bidens-lead-in-nevada-grew)




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jimnyc
11-05-2020, 02:31 PM
GOP Observers Barred From Entering Philadelphia Vote Counting Center After Receiving Court Order – Philly Sheriff Not Enforcing Appellate Court Order

An appellate judge on Thursday morning handed the Trump campaign a win by allowing it to observe Pennsylvania officials count ballots.

“The media and the insiders is in the city, they’ve been trying to count Donald Trump out for years,” Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien told reporters on a call. “Donald Trump is alive and well.”

“We will win Pennsylvania. I have as much confidence today as I had yesterday. We also won a major victory in Pennsylvania this morning that helps ensure the transparency and openness that Pennsylvania deserves is held true,” he added.

However, Republican observers are barred from entering the Philadelphia vote counting center even after receiving the appellate court order.

https://i.imgur.com/g8bYloe.png

The Philadelphia Sheriff is not enforcing the appellate court order, according to Corey Lewandowski who is on the ground in Philly.

This is a banana republic.

Pam Bondi said the counting machines were moved far away from observers, defying the court order allowing GOP observers to be no more than 6 feet away from officials counting ballots.

WATCH:

https://i.imgur.com/yNu1et7.png

The crooked DEMOCRAT lawyer for the city of Philadelphia Michele Hangley tweeted back in September that Joe Biden and Democrats needed a “landslide.”

Guess who decides whether or not Trump’s lawyers are granted access to observe vote counting… said Trump’s rapid response director Steve Guest.

https://i.imgur.com/WpK3jTy.png

It gets worse.,,

Fake news NBC’s Andrea Mitchell falsely reported that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overruled the Commonwealth Court ruling in favor of the Trump campaign allowing observers.

https://i.imgur.com/EV2Plu1.png

There is no such ruling and no pending filings.

Per a PA Supreme Court Spokesperson says, “There is no filing in the Pa Supreme Court and the Court has NOT overruled any action by the Commonwealth Court. Again, the PA Supreme Court has NOT taken any actions on any Commonwealth Court case nor do they have any pending filings”

https://i.imgur.com/eRJLbmk.png

Fake News NBC’s Andrea Mitchell literally just made up a PA Supreme Court ruling out of thin air.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-gop-observers-barred-entering-philadelphia-vote-counting-center-receiving-court-order-philly-sheriff-not-enforcing-appellate-court-order-video/

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 02:38 PM
GOP Observers Barred From Entering Philadelphia Vote Counting Center After Receiving Court Order – Philly Sheriff Not Enforcing Appellate Court Order

An appellate judge on Thursday morning handed the Trump campaign a win by allowing it to observe Pennsylvania officials count ballots.

“The media and the insiders is in the city, they’ve been trying to count Donald Trump out for years,” Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien told reporters on a call. “Donald Trump is alive and well.”

“We will win Pennsylvania. I have as much confidence today as I had yesterday. We also won a major victory in Pennsylvania this morning that helps ensure the transparency and openness that Pennsylvania deserves is held true,” he added.

However, Republican observers are barred from entering the Philadelphia vote counting center even after receiving the appellate court order.

https://i.imgur.com/g8bYloe.png

The Philadelphia Sheriff is not enforcing the appellate court order, according to Corey Lewandowski who is on the ground in Philly.

This is a banana republic.

Pam Bondi said the counting machines were moved far away from observers, defying the court order allowing GOP observers to be no more than 6 feet away from officials counting ballots.

WATCH:

https://i.imgur.com/yNu1et7.png

The crooked DEMOCRAT lawyer for the city of Philadelphia Michele Hangley tweeted back in September that Joe Biden and Democrats needed a “landslide.”

Guess who decides whether or not Trump’s lawyers are granted access to observe vote counting… said Trump’s rapid response director Steve Guest.

https://i.imgur.com/WpK3jTy.png

It gets worse.,,

Fake news NBC’s Andrea Mitchell falsely reported that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court overruled the Commonwealth Court ruling in favor of the Trump campaign allowing observers.

https://i.imgur.com/EV2Plu1.png

There is no such ruling and no pending filings.

Per a PA Supreme Court Spokesperson says, “There is no filing in the Pa Supreme Court and the Court has NOT overruled any action by the Commonwealth Court. Again, the PA Supreme Court has NOT taken any actions on any Commonwealth Court case nor do they have any pending filings”

https://i.imgur.com/eRJLbmk.png

Fake News NBC’s Andrea Mitchell literally just made up a PA Supreme Court ruling out of thin air.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-gop-observers-barred-entering-philadelphia-vote-counting-center-receiving-court-order-philly-sheriff-not-enforcing-appellate-court-order-video/

They need to get those pending filings in. Perhaps with a request for relief for the non-action of the D lawyer?

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 02:48 PM
And my thinking as well, as far as finishing counting and doing jobs they had 4 years to prepare for!

So first it was "administrative work" & lack of answers. NBC reports they decided to go to bed. And then 2 days later they announced, Oh, we lied, they just shipped the wrong ballots was all.

Amazing how they communicate all of this. And then expect us to believe them. Someone in there was lying then.

--

Battleground PA: Here's Why Allegheny County Halted Counting its Votes Today

It's coming down to Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. The votes are being counted. Well, not so much in Pennsylvania, where workers in Allegheny County, which encompasses Pittsburgh, decided to just take the day off. I’m not kidding. And this was the case on election night as well in the western part of the state. These folks got sleepy and went home. It’s inexcusable. It’s pathetic, really. This date didn’t just pop up on the calendar yesterday. It’s been there for four years. Pennsylvania is a key state for both parties. Its electoral college votes will keep it that way. You stay until all the votes are counted.

Right now, New York Times reporter Trip Gabriel said that “Allegheny County, PA still has 35,413 uncounted mail-in ballots, but elections staff is taking today off for ‘administrative work’ and will not resume count until Friday.”

https://i.imgur.com/3TfNxlp.png

https://i.imgur.com/3OT6oHy.png

Gabriel quoted Allegheny council person Bethany Hallam, who is also a member of the elections board, saying "I can't get an answer as to why” concerning these workers taking the day off from counting votes.

No battleground state should tolerate this, to be frank. It’s not healthy for the nation. And lends to accusations of backroom shenanigans being hurled.

***

UPDATE: Well, it looks like there is a reason why Allegheny County can’t count the outstanding ballots right now. Apparently, some company they contracted with shipped out the wrong ballots.

Ryan Deto of Pittsburgh City Paper called out Trip saying today was “not just a day off” because this was court-ordered. He added, “29,000 of 35,000 left can't be legally counted until Friday due to court order. 29,000 are replacement ballots because a contracted company delivered wrong ballots last month. Election return board has to legally meet tomorrow before counting can resume.”

Gabriel did note this as well, but you know how Twitter goes when something goes viral.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/05/were-probably-not-going-to-have-pa-results-today-thanks-to-allegheny-county-n2579524

icansayit
11-05-2020, 05:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeRd0EJbkC0&ab_channel=OperationMaple

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 05:44 PM
Food for thought....so obvious...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmF9D8kXIAIcLPo?format=jpg&name=large

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 05:49 PM
​'I Can't Believe What I'm Seeing - This is a Coup' - Registered Democrat and Poll Watcher Details Corruption at Philly Vote Counting Center (VIDEO`

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1324476627728826369/BcPSSR2o?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/cant-believe-seeing-coup-registered-democrat-poll-watcher-details-corruption-philly-vote-counting-center-video/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 07:14 PM
It sounds like he acknowledged that he is going to lose the 'vote,' which he's blaming on fraud, big media, big tech, and suppression polls. Now we turn to 'litigation-lots of it,' saying he has lots of evidence and will be presenting it in the courts, perhaps SCOTUS.

I feel the shenanigans is likely true, problem will be proving it.

And time.

This isn't like drowning a business opponent in lawsuits, which can go on for years and years. Days, weeks, is all the time that will be given to prove his case in a clear enough way to say, "Yes, there is a legitimate reason to overturn the decisions in x, y, z states." That would take many instances, with proof, of active fraud.

This is not going to be a good result, regardless of the outcome.

I do agree that this election is embarrassing in the scheme of things.

Feeling sad.

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 07:32 PM
They need to get those pending filings in. Perhaps with a request for relief for the non-action of the D lawyer?
This evening the federal district court ruled that both sides are allowed 60 observers, allowing social distancing. This was in a afternoon filing by Trump, opposed by PA Dems. During the court time, counting stopped. Resumed afterwards.

From Trump's appearance, rightly or wrongly he left the impression that the counts are not going to go in his favor, but he'll deal with lots of litigation. I truly hope he has 100s of thousands (at least) of witnesses willing to sign affidavits describing how they were disenfranchised. He's going to need depositions of people with access to the system that can describe said shenanigans-probably the most influential, but hard to come by. All this needs to be done in days, but not get lost in a sea of filings and allegations.

jimnyc
11-05-2020, 07:34 PM
Death by a thousand cuts...

And done so in the open, but no matter where done, the damage still takes place.

Each tiny little piece adding up to votes here and there.

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Pollster John McLaughlin: Many Polling Firms Boosted Numbers for Biden to Suppress the Trump Vote

(CNS News) -- John McLaughlin, CEO and Partner of the consulting firm McLaughlin & Associates, said that many of the presidential polling firms deliberately boosted their poll numbers to suggest that Democrat Joe Biden was ahead of Republican Donald Trump in many states, all in order to suppress the vote of Trump supporters.

If Americans are told, over and over by the media that Biden is ahead of Trump in the polls, then many of those Americans may be discouraged and decide not to vote -- what's the point, if Biden is ahead?

In a telephone interview on Thursday, CNS News asked John McLaughlin, "Do you think they [pollsters] boosted the numbers for Biden to try to suppress the vote?"

McLaughlin, who has been a professional pollster for 35 years, said, "yes."

The polling firms are filled with people who "have PhD's, advanced degrees, they know statistics," and "they know what the electorate looks like from previous exit polls and previous polling," he said.

With the 2020 presidential race, "they went out of their way to under-poll Republicans because they knew that the president gets 90% of his support from Republicans," said McLaughlin. "And if you lower the percent of Republicans in a poll – whatever your excuse is, you say its adults or just randomly using phone lists – you know you’re hurting the president."

"You had major networks publishing polls with 24, 23, 25% of Republicans and exit polls from the last two presidential elections had 33%," he said.

"There’s no excuse for polls where they have, putting up a headline that Biden is way ahead or Trump is losing other than you are trying to manufacture an outcome against the president, or you are totally incompetent," said McLaughlin. “I refuse to believe that they are totally incompetent."

In Florida, for instance, many polling firms and media outlets were giving Biden a strong edge against Trump and reporting that the former vice president would easily win the Sunshine State.

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/michael-w-chapman/pollster-john-mclaughlin-many-polling-firms-boosted-numbers

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 07:50 PM
Death by a thousand cuts...

And done so in the open, but no matter where done, the damage still takes place.

Each tiny little piece adding up to votes here and there.

---

Pollster John McLaughlin: Many Polling Firms Boosted Numbers for Biden to Suppress the Trump Vote

(CNS News) -- John McLaughlin, CEO and Partner of the consulting firm McLaughlin & Associates, said that many of the presidential polling firms deliberately boosted their poll numbers to suggest that Democrat Joe Biden was ahead of Republican Donald Trump in many states, all in order to suppress the vote of Trump supporters.

If Americans are told, over and over by the media that Biden is ahead of Trump in the polls, then many of those Americans may be discouraged and decide not to vote -- what's the point, if Biden is ahead?

In a telephone interview on Thursday, CNS News asked John McLaughlin, "Do you think they [pollsters] boosted the numbers for Biden to try to suppress the vote?"

McLaughlin, who has been a professional pollster for 35 years, said, "yes."

The polling firms are filled with people who "have PhD's, advanced degrees, they know statistics," and "they know what the electorate looks like from previous exit polls and previous polling," he said.

With the 2020 presidential race, "they went out of their way to under-poll Republicans because they knew that the president gets 90% of his support from Republicans," said McLaughlin. "And if you lower the percent of Republicans in a poll – whatever your excuse is, you say its adults or just randomly using phone lists – you know you’re hurting the president."

"You had major networks publishing polls with 24, 23, 25% of Republicans and exit polls from the last two presidential elections had 33%," he said.

"There’s no excuse for polls where they have, putting up a headline that Biden is way ahead or Trump is losing other than you are trying to manufacture an outcome against the president, or you are totally incompetent," said McLaughlin. “I refuse to believe that they are totally incompetent."

In Florida, for instance, many polling firms and media outlets were giving Biden a strong edge against Trump and reporting that the former vice president would easily win the Sunshine State.

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/michael-w-chapman/pollster-john-mclaughlin-many-polling-firms-boosted-numbers


That rings more than true, unfortunately it's a 'dirty trick' and unlikely illegal. Same with the outlets-online or MSM responsible for publishing and hoping the trick works. Doubt anyone will acknowledge doing this, so 'prove it.' No evidence, just gut feeling something is not right.

In fairness, remember Trump saying Cruz father or grandfather may have been involved with Kennedy assassination? Not illegal, just unethical.

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 09:07 PM
Journalists aren’t seeing any signs of Fraud !Americans aren’t seeing any signs of Journalism !

The democrats messed with the wrong President!!!

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 09:13 PM
Call the police’: Video shows ‘poll watcher’ being denied entry to Philadelphia polling station`

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/poll-watcher-1.jpg
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/call-the-police-video-shows-poll-watcher-being-denied-entry-to-philadelphia-polling-station/

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 09:35 PM
They lied about Russia

They lied about Ukraine

They would Cheat to Win an Election

It’s about Money and Power

Not us

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 09:37 PM
What happens when 69,500,000 people don't trust the election results? Guess we're about to find out....

LongTermGuy
11-05-2020, 09:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmGjzVdXEAgoHhZ?format=jpg&name=medium

Kathianne
11-05-2020, 09:46 PM
I’m not happy with the outcome. I think if Biden is in, hope for Middle East will be lost.

Yet, I’m at the point of questioning how we gained in House and very likely kept the Senate, just barely losing the executive. Covid? Tweets?

Another hope, no Susan Rice, Sanders, Warren in Cabinet, won’t get through Senate.

So so hoping everyone needs to move a bit towards center and Congress takes back some of their responsibilities.

Look for some of the many leaks coming out of dem meetings with Schumer and Pelosi. Good reading.

NightTrain
11-06-2020, 09:48 AM
This may be a blessing in disguise.

We've known for decades that the democrats are big into rigging elections - the infamous JFK rigging by Midwest operations was the first nationally known massive effort that was subsequently buried and covered up - when it helped the guys who won, it's a guaranteed coverup.

A national audit of voter rolls, hand counting every one with representatives on both sides present, and a 6-3 SCOTUS to enforce fair tallies can end this travesty. We're allowing banana republic elections here, and it has to stop.

Further, this all would have been over and certified with Voter ID, in person voting. And I have no doubt that Trump won this election with very comfortable margins.

Trump needs to challenge every one and demand recounts in all 50 States. Time to get to the bottom of this. And there had better be people going to jail. Examples must be made. Harsh ones.

NightTrain
11-06-2020, 09:58 AM
Also, a Federal printing of ballots which are then sent to specific states & counties with embedded security measures built in would be a great security measure.

This would prevent mass ballot gathering and 4am drops at key precincts to skew elections. A quick scan would reveal where that ballot was supposed to go and be utilized.

In MI there was a guy born in 1902 who died in 1984 who requested a ballot and voted this year. A Federal mandate to have 99% accurate voter rolls needs to be enacted.

Detroit didn't meet the requirement? Very well, you don't get to vote. Now you have 2 years to get your house in order and you can try again at that time. Guarantee that everyone will have their shit in order for the next one.

Kathianne
11-06-2020, 10:10 AM
Also, a Federal printing of ballots which are then sent to specific states & counties with embedded security measures built in would be a great security measure.

This would prevent mass ballot gathering and 4am drops at key precincts to skew elections. A quick scan would reveal where that ballot was supposed to go and be utilized.

In MI there was a guy born in 1902 who died in 1984 who requested a ballot and voted this year. A Federal mandate to have 99% accurate voter rolls needs to be enacted.

Detroit didn't meet the requirement? Very well, you don't get to vote. Now you have 2 years to get your house in order and you can try again at that time. Guarantee that everyone will have their shit in order for the next one.
I don’t know how much the feds can do.

I’ve heard there are massively more precincts that have more ballots than registered voters. What the courts will do with that? Covid is going to factor in for many rulings is my guess. Will that issue make it to SCOTUS? I really hate 2020.

I’m unsure if Congress can make a law requiring a deadline nationally on when ballots must be turned in and that they must be requested, not just sent.

It it would be after the fact, but necessary for the future.

NightTrain
11-06-2020, 10:38 AM
It's a no-brainer that ANY precinct reporting greater than 90% turnout is experiencing vote fraud. 90% just never happens. But over 100%? Bullshit.

Shut it all down and send in the lawyers and the FBI. Immediately. We'll all wait until we get an answer.

Constitutionally, States are supposed to run their own elections. But if there's obvious voter fraud running amok with no relief in sight, something has to be done. Doing this still allows states to run their own elections and provides for a free and fair election that we can have faith in.

That's why I think security embedded ballots printed by the Feds is a perfect solution. That would prevent democrats from spooling up their printers and manufacturing hundreds of thousands more when elections aren't going their way.

Everyone knows why the counting inexplicably stopped dead in crucial precincts and hundreds of thousands ballots suddenly appeared at 4am. We're not stupid.

Kathianne
11-06-2020, 11:17 AM
Here’s one article that brings the <votes up. It’s a precinct by precinct problem:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/milwaukee_officials_have_some_explaining_to_do.htm l?fbclid=IwAR3ZUQK85xhvGskjf0QzCgs3e041QIPkmR-0O5gOwnLLQEQY7ez0SNMxRBQ#.X6VTQWPKqvY.facebook

As with most fraud issues, not statewide. It is one of the reasons I think ‘be quiet for now and let lawyers and staff work fast,” should be the stand now.

With that said, I think results will mostly stand, perhaps with revisions. It will help in reform push though.

Kathianne
11-06-2020, 12:21 PM
Republicans just picked up another House seat, that's +6.

NightTrain
11-06-2020, 12:24 PM
Yeah, this will be won or lost by the strength of Trump & GOP's legal team. It was out of our hands back on the 3rd.

I'm hoping to see vast amounts of lawsuits filed in every suspicious area. I want answers and the usual silence isn't going to cut it.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-06-2020, 12:25 PM
If this dem cheating is not rectified, this nation is doomed.
If this is not topped and courts meted punishments are not rendered this nation is doomed.

This amount of "bold in your face --ff you-- cheating", points to corruption on a massive scale by powerful elected lib/dem officials.
This is so massively over the top that it makes some of the banana republic crap look weak.
I predicted that they would do exactly this...
The dem party is a major threat to this nation! A fact...
And it has been just that for a few decades now.
If heads do not roll over this we as a nation are doomed.--Tyr

LongTermGuy
11-06-2020, 05:23 PM
"....Shhhh...Im hiding from stupid people....AKA Biden voters !!"
Twitter Patriot...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmLE9BTW0AEpc9u?format=jpg&name=large

(https://twitter.com/Stephan01348570/status/1324837803310698497/photo/1)

KarlMarx
11-07-2020, 08:57 AM
So Trump was up hundreds of thousands of votes with over half the vote in and suddenly he loses?

That makes no sense unless, of course, you consider the possibility of cheating

What would the Super Bowl be like if they used the same rules as we had during this election?

1. Mail in field goals will be accepted up to three days after the game. But only Democrat field goals will be counted.

2. Field goals made by dead members of the players’ family while they were in high school or college will be accepted. Again, only Democrats can do this

3. Democrat Referees will make their calls but no one will be allowed to see them make their calls

And if they did Football history will be made... Republicans 0 Democrats 150,000,000

NightTrain
11-07-2020, 12:55 PM
Our Forefathers would have been shooting by now.

In the meantime, let's see what turns up with that MI glitch moving GOP to Dem columns. The majority of States used that software, including AK.

Monday is going to be a busy day with lawsuits quickly moving to SCOTUS.

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 05:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmQId5eU0AIQunI?format=jpg&name=large

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 09:02 PM
Similarly.....the claim that there is no evidence of widespread fraud would be comical of this were not such a serious matter and can only be made by people with zero understanding of the word

"evidence" or soulless liars.....

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 09:05 PM
What happened to Covid?? From this moment forward...no one should ever wear a mask ever again.

If a business insists...take your business elsewhere. Just stop complying. The selective enforcement of COVID is insulting.!

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 09:07 PM
...The magnitude and varying forms of vote irregularities in this election DEMANDS a nationwide recount.



That recount must include close scrutiny of voter eligibility and identity verification!




There’s a reason why Democrats obstructed the legal observation of the vote tabulation!

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 09:12 PM
@RaheemKassam
Editor-in-Chief

@TheNatPulse
, host of The National Pulse, Co-Host of

@WarRoomPandemic
podcast.



~ "Continued statistical analysis shows wild numbers of people who voted ONLY for Joe Biden and didn’t vote further down the ticket:

Pennsylvania — 98,000
Georgia — 80-90,000
Arizona — 42,000
Michigan — 69- 115,000
Wisconsin — 62,836


I have people going through all the anomalies." ~

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmQIm1DXMAY8vhB?format=jpg&name=large

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 09:18 PM
NEW: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FULL STATEMENT 2 hrs. ago.


“We all know why Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don’t want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over.

Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor.

In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.


“Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated.

The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots.
This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election. It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters. Only a party engaged in wrongdoing would unlawfully keep observers out of the count room – and then fight in court to block their access.


“So what is Biden hiding? I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands.”


- President Donald J. Trump

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/statement-from-president-donald-j.-trump/

LongTermGuy
11-07-2020, 10:11 PM
`MOAB in due time.....

the left's celebrations will be short lived...


Our victory will be VERY TASTY.`


TRDJ+`

Kathianne
11-08-2020, 10:34 PM
It's interesting to see how many down ballot contests, referendums and such did. Over and over again it seems most on the 'left side' went down:

2nd Amendment

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/11/08/montana-second-amendment-referendum-passed-despite-massively-outspent/

Destroying gig economy (something entrepreneurial minorities use to a start) and trying to make affirmative action the norm:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/11/03/california-propositions-prop-22-ahead-while-property-tax-measure-prop-15-trails/

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 04:02 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1h


Nevada is turning out to be a cesspool of Fake Votes.
@mschlapp

&


@AdamLaxalt
are finding things that, when released, will be absolutely shocking!



Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1h
The threshold identification of Ballots is turning out to be even bigger than originally anticipated. A very large number of Ballots are impacted. Stay tuned!

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 04:10 PM
Huge spike in google searches for “election fraud punishment” in key states .... interesting .....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmZ4ebWUcAAjRWT?format=jpg&name=900x900

People are getting worried....


My guess is these votes will "fix themselves"... or a "whistleblower" will come forward to spill the beans in exchange for immunity....

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 04:19 PM
Sarah Eaglesfield Data Scientist
@zenxv

· 17h

Software glitch going on here in Virginia.
4.42am - "We've counted 3,368,181 votes!"
5.12am - "Wait, no, we've only counted 3,199,165 votes"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmWcq8VWEAEbySC?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 05:03 PM
Donald Trump Jr. DonaldJTrumpJr
·
29m
Current Vote Margins - Biden


Pennsylvania: 𝟰𝟱,𝟮𝟮𝟮
Wisconsin: 𝟮𝟬,𝟱𝟰𝟬
Georgia: 𝟭𝟬,𝟲𝟮𝟬


2016 Trump


Michigan +11k
Wisconsin +23k
Pennsylvania +44k


*Remember when the "legitimacy" of the 2016 election was discussed because of a tight MI, WI, PA? Because I do!

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 05:38 PM
The media narrative will go from “there was no fraud” to “ok, a little fraud” to “so what if there was multi-state fraud, Biden still won” to “Trump people are complaining too much about systemic fraud, let’s swear Biden in now!” in the blink of an eye
Quote Tweet


Sean Davis Seanmdav
· 8h
In a new sworn affidavit, a whistleblower with the Clark County Elections Department in Nevada claims Nevada poll workers fabricated proof of residence data for illegal voters. So far, Nevada Attorney General @AaronDFordNV has taken no action to investigate credible fraud claims.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmYypvxW4AcpE6L?format=jpg&name=900x900

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 09:23 PM
CNBC reports that Trey Gowdy has been fired as a contributor to Fox news because he has joined Trump's legal team!! Fox has completely gone off the rails! We need a new network to depend on, with some holdovers from Fox, others etc!!

Tucker..Hannity...Laura Ingram...Judge Jeanine..Watters world....Gutfield show...

(Still Good) For now...

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 09:31 PM
Video just tweeted by Trump: Watch...Sound on!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1325967327611981829

LongTermGuy
11-09-2020, 09:33 PM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump


If Joe Biden were President, you wouldn’t have the Vaccine for another four years, nor would the
@US_FDA
have ever approved it so quickly. The bureaucracy would have destroyed millions of lives!

SassyLady
11-10-2020, 01:25 AM
CNBC reports that Trey Gowdy has been fired as a contributor to Fox news because he has joined Trump's legal team!! Fox has completely gone off the rails! We need a new network to depend on, with some holdovers from Fox, others etc!!

Tucker..Hannity...Laura Ingram...Judge Jeanine..Watters world....Gutfield show...

(Still Good) For now...
LongTermGuy
I think this is old news from 2019. Do you have a link?

LongTermGuy
11-10-2020, 05:34 AM
@LongTermGuy (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=3378)
I think this is old news from 2019. Do you have a link?

Yup old news Thanks Sassy!

SassyLady
11-10-2020, 12:31 PM
Yup old news Thanks Sassy!
Yep, old news. I'm listening to Trey right now talk on Fox about the committee hearings with retired FBI agent McCabe.

icansayit
11-10-2020, 03:11 PM
If Biden moves into the W/H on January 20, 2021.

NOBODY is talking about all of the Investigations from the Obama/Clinton FBI/CIA/DOJ operations that will CEASE instantly....and Once again. HILLARY and EVERY CROOK in the Democrat Party who lied, cheated, and formed the COUP to protect Hillary and the BENGHAZI murders, The STEELE DOSSIER, and OUR URANIUM Hillary Sold to Russia....


ALL WILL BE BURIED and NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN!

Kathianne
11-10-2020, 03:36 PM
Just saying, that today the Senate kept the 49th seat with Tillis from NC.

Do you all know that NINE! 9! Democrat seats in House have now flipped red?

jimnyc
11-10-2020, 03:56 PM
Just saying, that today the Senate kept the 49th seat with Tillis from NC.

Do you all know that NINE! 9! Democrat seats in House have now flipped red?

What does this mean long run? Dems still take senate if they win both runoff elections in January?

LongTermGuy
11-10-2020, 05:00 PM
BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy says Nancy Pelosi does not have the votes to remain as speaker.

Also to day:

`GOP Sen. Tillis reelected to North Carolina seat, boosting GOP chances to keep majority. Cunningham concedes`
Republican Sen. Thom Tillis fended off a tough battle to win a second term against Democrat Cal Cunningham, prevailing in a race Democrats had hoped to pick up in their quest to recapture the majority.

The loss means Democrats’ only hopes of taking the majority are several longshot races. `

​https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/10/north-carolina-senate-race-thom-tillis-wins-reelection/6238844002/

Kathianne
11-10-2020, 05:09 PM
What does this mean long run? Dems still take senate if they win both runoff elections in January?
I maybe wrong, but they haven’t called Alaska yet? That’s a given. More shenanigans. They are a whisker from house, do you really think there won’t be crossover votes if the leaders bring up goofy progressive issues? It’s a big win!

Kathianne
11-10-2020, 05:26 PM
Good possibilities here:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/an-anti-woke-coalition-emerged-in-the-2020-elections/

yeah, I’m on phone.

LongTermGuy
11-10-2020, 05:32 PM
BREAKING: HUGE! A DEMOCRAT whistleblower has come forward in MI!
@RudyGiuliani
to be filing lawsuit tomorrow!! Enough fraud exposed to FLIP Michigan!!!



https://twitter.com/i/status/1326257443249262595

http://dennismichaellynch.com/breaking-project-veritas-releases-bombshell-whistleblower-video-alleging-ballot-fraud-in-michigan/

Kathianne
11-10-2020, 05:46 PM
In the House:

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/11/10/republicans-flip-another-house-seat-many-will-gop-gain/

LongTermGuy
11-10-2020, 08:25 PM
"Trump Dramatically Closes Gap in AZ, Half-Percent Away from Biden with Count Ongoing..."

https://www.westernjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Trump-thumbs-up-913x479.jpg
President Donald Trump gives a thumbs up after speaking to a crowd of supporters at the White House in Washington on Oct. 10. (Alex Brandon / AP)

While most establishment media outlets have declared Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential race, a sleeper story is emerging in Arizona as President Donald Trump pulled to half a percent away from his Democrat rival.
The Associated Press (https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-wins-white-house-ap-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9) on Saturday declared Biden the winner of the election with an Electoral College tally of 290 compared with 214 for Trump.


Included in that tally is Arizona’s 11 Electoral College votes, along with results from other contested races in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Nevada.
The Trump campaign has insisted that the Grand Canyon State would ultimately go for the president when all the votes are counted.

Last week, Biden held a nearly 93,000-vote lead over Trump, but as of Monday morning, the former vice president’s advantage shrank to just 16,985 votes (https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/18/0), or 49.5 percent to Trump’s 49 percent.

TRENDING: Nevada Whistleblower Says He Was Told To Process Ballots Without Signature Verification (https://www.westernjournal.com/nevada-whistleblower-says-told-process-ballots-without-signature-verification/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=westernjournalism&ff_campaign=pushtraffic&ff_content=2020-11-10)
Garrett Archer of the Phoenix ABC affiliate KNXV-TV tweeted on Sunday that the president received 64 percent of a ballot drop from Pinal and Apache counties that day.

If the president were to take 64 percent of those outstanding ballots or something close to it, he would pull ahead of Biden by about 4,500 votes.

​https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-dramatically-closes-gap-az-half-percent-away-biden-count-ongoing/?utm_source=push&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2020-11-10&utm_campaign=pushtraffic

LongTermGuy
11-10-2020, 09:28 PM
"That’s why Mike was number one in his class at West Point!"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q0xHtss6-o

Kathianne
11-11-2020, 12:00 AM
and with Utah, we pick up another Congressional seat! :laugh2:

LongTermGuy
11-11-2020, 12:07 AM
....more Proof!

...If you go to... PA DON'T DRINK THE WATER!!

This was a legit election judge in Pennsylvania before having to resign over election fraud. No joke!!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmhFBWXW8AEnkgh?format=jpg&name=900x900

Kathianne
11-11-2020, 12:48 AM
I realized watching Tucker tonight, people may well have been paying attention to 'law & order'; 'defund the police'; and the loss of businesses, including minority businesses; and the deaths of black lives that didn't matter.

Not sure who won or lost the presidency, but people certainly seem to be saying something down ballot.

Abbey Marie
11-11-2020, 11:40 AM
I realized watching Tucker tonight, people may well have been paying attention to 'law & order'; 'defund the police'; and the loss of businesses, including minority businesses; and the deaths of black lives that didn't matter.

Not sure who won or lost the presidency, but people certainly seem to be saying something down ballot.

What does ‘down ballot’ mean, Kath?

Kathianne
11-11-2020, 11:48 AM
What does ‘down ballot’ mean, Kath?
House/Senate, state & local offices.

Abbey Marie
11-11-2020, 12:04 PM
House/Senate, state & local offices.

Makes sense, thanks!

NightTrain
11-11-2020, 12:26 PM
I maybe wrong, but they haven’t called Alaska yet? That’s a given. More shenanigans. They are a whisker from house, do you really think there won’t be crossover votes if the leaders bring up goofy progressive issues? It’s a big win!


They were telling us from the outset that this one would be slow. There's entire regions locked down and it's still blowing up with Rona.

No worries though, it was a crushing red tsunami up here!

13041

LongTermGuy
11-11-2020, 05:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmhISJVXYAMm1n8?format=jpg&name=medium

LongTermGuy
11-11-2020, 05:34 PM
​How is his legal? What country do we live in?

Why would they do this?? (Most know why)

"Philadelphia has destroyed all ballot envelopes. "`This will make identifying naked ballots and ballots arriving post election impossible. It will also make finding fraud in an audit very hard.`

Throw them out! (Make them not count if they want to play that way)

LongTermGuy
11-11-2020, 05:44 PM
...and the hits keep coming..

​....we know Mr. Skwiot didn’t vote, as he passed away in 2015.

Well, a very interesting update courtesy of @TierraBHayes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmkUFopW8AYaNv6?format=jpg&name=900x900

icansayit
11-11-2020, 06:19 PM
In another Internet DEBATE site I was booted from back then. I told of neighbor who lived near us, here in VA. And he had passed in 1998 or 99. So I was accused of fabricating. BUT IT WAS REAL.
So...today. Why is anybody surprised??? http://icansayit.com/images/demvotedrive.jpg

LongTermGuy
11-11-2020, 10:37 PM
In another Internet DEBATE site I was booted from back then. I told of neighbor who lived near us, here in VA. And he had passed in 1998 or 99. So I was accused of fabricating. BUT IT WAS REAL.
So...today. Why is anybody surprised??? http://icansayit.com/images/demvotedrive.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Emk_4mNWMAEZ-eW?format=jpg&name=medium

Kathianne
11-12-2020, 07:31 PM
NY House seat flips to Red.

Kathianne
11-14-2020, 08:16 PM
CA flips from blue to red. That's 11!

Kathianne
11-14-2020, 08:18 PM
There's a few more to watch:

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/11/14/young-kim-flips-another-seat-california-gop-now-8-house/


Young Kim Flips Another Seat In California, GOP Now +8 In The House
JOHN SEXTONPosted at 4:00 pm on November 14, 2020

This race was called last night by the Associated Press. Like the Michelle Steel race, this one has been looking good for days but it was close enough that we had to wait. Now it’s in the books as the 11th flipped seat for the GOP so far:


Republican challenger Young Kim has unseated Democratic Rep. Gil Cisneros in a tight rematch for the 39th congressional district, flipping back a second local House seat that Republicans lost to Democrats in 2018…


Cisneros issued a statement saying “the voters have spoken” after latest results showed Kim with 50.6% of the vote. While there were still several thousand mail-in and provisional ballots left to tally across the three counties that touch CA-39, both candidates said the math made it clear that Kim had won the race.


This result this year is the reverse of what happened in 2018 when Kim narrowly lost the seat to Cisneros after an early lead:


When the two first squared off for the seat, in 2018, Cisneros trailed Kim on election night by 3,900 votes, leading to early announcements that Kim had become the first Korean American woman in Congress. But early results have traditionally favored Republicans in California elections. And over the next few days, as mail-in ballots were tabulated into the total, Cisneros pulled ahead. More than a week later he was declared the winner, beating Kim by 3.2 percentage points, or 7,611 votes.


This year it was Cisneros that led on election night and Kim who slowly chipped away at that lead.


This win means the GOP has flipped 11 seats. Since the Democrats have flipped 3, that brings the net gain for the GOP to +8. Note that if you look at the NY Times House results page it has not been updated to show the win by Nicole Malliotakis in NY-11 even though Rep. Max Rose has conceded the race.


So what’s next? There are still two very close races in California. CA-21 is looking like another pickup for the GOP. Greater than 98% of the vote is in and David Valadao has a 2,257 vote lead over Rep. TJ Cox. The other seat is much closer. In CA-25, GOP Rep. Mike Garcia is hanging on to a slim 104 vote lead over Democratic challenger Christy Smith. This is a seat that Garcia won in a special election after Katie Hill resigned. According to CBS Los Angeles, it is “unclear how many ballots remain to be counted.” So we’ll just have to wait and see on this one.


In all there are 13 races left to be called and 7 of those are in New York. As of this morning, the GOP leads in 9 of those 13 races.


Finally, Kim was gracious in victory. She posted this video after her win last night. It’s nice to hear a winner say something positive about America: “As an immigrant to America, I know that the promise of America is alive. America is a country where an immigrant girl from South Korea can rise to be your representative in the United States Congress. Thank you for your faith in me and let’s get to work for the 39th District.”

SassyLady
11-14-2020, 09:51 PM
Did you count Burgess Owens of Utah in your #?

Kathianne
11-15-2020, 03:29 AM
Did you count Burgess Owens of Utah in your #?
Not yet.

LongTermGuy
11-15-2020, 11:09 AM
SHOWTIME!!
Anyone see Maria`s show On Fox this Morning? It was about Dominion voting machines..."Proof"!

Sidney Powell today on Maria Bartiromo. “We’re getting ready to overturn election results in several states.” “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/bartiromo-and-powell.png?w=640&h=362

Watch: Wow! "We have so much evidence ..I feel its coming through a Firehose"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1327996167041536005 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1327996167041536005)

Abbey Marie
11-15-2020, 11:32 AM
Kind of sums it up for me. And with that, I am going to go into my “I hate politics” funk. No Fox News, no discussions at home, etc.


13056

jimnyc
11-15-2020, 03:34 PM
CA flips from blue to red. That's 11!

https://i.imgur.com/RwDei76.gif

At Least 12 US House Seats Flipped to Republican in 2020 GOP Landslide

At least 12 US House seats were flipped to Republican in the 2020 Trump landslide election.

Trump Campaign Rapid Response Director Steve Guest listed 11 seats.

We added Burgess Owens in Utah.

Rep-elect Burgess Owens, Rep-elect Young Kim, Rep-elect Maria Salazar

12 GOP House seat flips!

CA-39 Young Kim
CA-48 Michelle Steel
FL-26 Carlos Gimenez
FL-27 Maria Elvira Salazar
IA-01 Ashley Hinson
MI-03 Peter Meijer
MN-07 Michelle Fischbach
NM-02 Yvette Herrell
NY-11 Nicole Malliotakis
OK-05 Stephanie Bice
SC-01 Nancy Mace
UT-04 Burgess Owens

They are still counting in: ca-21, ia-02, nj-07, and ny-22

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/least-12-us-house-seats-flipped-republican-2020-gop-landslide/

Kathianne
11-15-2020, 03:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/RwDei76.gif

At Least 12 US House Seats Flipped to Republican in 2020 GOP Landslide

At least 12 US House seats were flipped to Republican in the 2020 Trump landslide election.

Trump Campaign Rapid Response Director Steve Guest listed 11 seats.

We added Burgess Owens in Utah.

Rep-elect Burgess Owens, Rep-elect Young Kim, Rep-elect Maria Salazar

12 GOP House seat flips!

CA-39 Young Kim
CA-48 Michelle Steel
FL-26 Carlos Gimenez
FL-27 Maria Elvira Salazar
IA-01 Ashley Hinson
MI-03 Peter Meijer
MN-07 Michelle Fischbach
NM-02 Yvette Herrell
NY-11 Nicole Malliotakis
OK-05 Stephanie Bice
SC-01 Nancy Mace
UT-04 Burgess Owens

They are still counting in: ca-21, ia-02, nj-07, and ny-22

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/least-12-us-house-seats-flipped-republican-2020-gop-landslide/

Yep, looks like this is a Republican blowout, with the exception of the presidency. I'm sorry that Biden will most likely get in and the damage he'll do, but it's more than probable that 2022 will be R Congress in both houses and 2024 will be R for president.

Bill Maher notices, but I think it unlikely the progressives will listen:

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/11/15/maher-democrats-obsession-woketopia-blue-wave-didnt-happen-election-night/


Maher: Democrats’ Obsession “Woketopia” Is Why The Blue Wave Didn’t Happen On Election Night
ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 2:01 pm on November 15, 2020

His audience suuuuuure is quiet during this segment.


There’s nothing here you haven’t heard before, most recently from centrist Democrat Elissa Slotkin in explaining why she won’t vote for Pelosi again for Speaker, but the fact that it’s familiar doesn’t make it less true. Slotkin is from Michigan but other Democrats from various purplish states came to the same conclusion she did: The party’s wokest voices are a major problem in battlegrounds.


Maher: Democrats’ obsession “woketopia” is why the blue wave didn’t happen on election night
“Defund police, open borders, socialism — it’s killing us,” said Representative Vicente Gonzalez, a Democrat from South Texas who won just over 50 percent of the vote, two years after he nearly captured 60 percent. “I had to fight to explain all that.”


The “average white person,” Mr. Gonzalez added, may associate socialism with Nordic countries, but to Asian and Hispanic migrants it recalls despotic “left-wing regimes.”…


Chuck Rocha, a longtime Democratic consultant, said too many white Democrats “see Black and brown people as the same” instead of approaching Hispanics as people open to either party and in need of convincing.


What centrist Dems need is a charismatic national figure who can seduce the base, shake them out of their ideological dogmatism, and steer them towards policies that’ll make them more electorally viable. That’s what Trump did with his nationalist pitch in 2016, flipping midwestern working-class white voters who saw little to gain from the Ryan-era emphases on smaller government, free trade, and entrepreneurship fetishism. Find a Democrat who can deliver left-wing economic populism with a more moderate cultural program and they’re in business.


Or at least they would be if not for the Jacobins in their base immediately shredding a candidate like that for crimes against wokeness. There’s an asymmetry between left and right in that sense. Trump’s takeover of the GOP was easy in that it turned out that the tea party never much cared about the austere economic principles it espoused; it was a culture-war movement with economics and fiscal responsibility just conduits for expressing opposition to Obama. Trump delivered the culture war and found that righties would go along with whatever on economics. I don’t think the same is true on the left. Progressives want their economic program *and* their cultural program. There’s no way to drag them to the middle by giving them plenty of one if they’re willing to bend on the other.


Democrats may need to make a hard calculation about whether it’s in the party’s interest mathematically to kiss off its woke class in the hope and expectation that they’ll make up for those lost votes in the center. That’s essentially what the GOP did in kissing off Never Trumpers, a decision that led to victory in 2016 and a surprisingly strong finish in 2020. My sense is that there are far, far more cultural progressives on the left than Ryan-ites on the right, making the same approach risky for Dems, but there’s only one way to find out.


Speaking of the GOP expanding its coalition, I can’t remember who it was but a Twitter pal noted this morning how ironic it is that the base is going all-in on dead-end “the election was stolen” nonsense right now. That’s the sort of desperate play you make when you fear you’re doomed to a permanent minority and need to cling to power by any means, however dubious — which is very much *not* the takeaway from election night this year. Not only did Republicans make inroads with America’s growing minority population, they proved they can turn out low-propensity voters even better than Democrats can:




The GOP’s set up very well for the next half of this decade and maybe even better for the second half. They’ll probably retake the House in 2022. In 2024 they’re likely to be facing either an 82-year-old president who already seems to be in cognitive decline or a vice president whose poor retail skills knocked her out of this year’s Democratic primary before Iowa. Republicans’ surprisingly strong showing at the state level means they’ll remain in control of redistricting, giving them a structural advantage in congressional races. And the Squad, led by AOC, appears to be going nowhere, poisoning the well on messaging for moderate Democrats for years to come. There’s no reason for Republicans to panic about Trump losing power, especially with McConnell and the Senate positioned to block Biden immediately. If anything, the party shedding its Trump baggage may increase its viability.

jimnyc
11-15-2020, 04:19 PM
Yep, looks like this is a Republican blowout, with the exception of the presidency. I'm sorry that Biden will most likely get in and the damage he'll do, but it's more than probable that 2022 will be R Congress in both houses and 2024 will be R for president.

Bill Maher notices, but I think it unlikely the progressives will listen:

Read another one from Maher where he scolded the left on the "silence is violence" BS and reminding them that looting is as well. A little late to start yapping about it, but better than never.

Kathianne
11-16-2020, 08:38 AM
Why every House seat flipped, makes new administration weaker: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-leaders-urge-democrats-not-to-join-team-biden-to-maintain-majority

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 10:38 AM
Jim Hoft

@gatewaypundit




WE CAUGHT THEM! Part 4: We Were Able to Replicate SAME IMPOSSIBLE BALLOT RATIO Found in

Michigan's Kent County As Reported by Dr. Shiva – 20,000 Votes Switched from Trump to Biden


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1326753741450715141/VEYFk9Cp?format=jpg&name=small
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/we-caught-them-part-4-we-were-able-to-replicate-same-impossible-ballot-ratio-found-in-michigans-kent-county-as-reported-by-dr-shiva-20000-votes-switched-from-trump-to-biden/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 10:43 AM
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· 1h

The Fake recount going on in Georgia means nothing because they are not allowing signatures to be

looked at and verified. Break the unconstitutional Consent Decree!

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 10:45 AM
​Sidney Powell: 'Dominion machines engineered by China, Venezuela, Cuba'


Democrats will never win again once Dominion is rendered null and void !!

Kathianne
11-16-2020, 06:01 PM
And the wave keeps rolling:

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/11/16/democrat-concedes-house-race-new-york-another-race-looking-good-gop/


Democrat Concedes House Race In New York And Another Race Is Looking Good For The GOP
JOHN SEXTONPosted at 5:13 pm on November 16, 2020

The NY Times results page for House races is not very useful at this point. There are two races in which Democrats have conceded the race but the Times still hasn’t updated the page. I believe that’s because they are following AP calls and the AP hasn’t called those races. But again, the Democrats have conceded so, barring some unexpected change, these races are over.


One of the two is the race for NY-11 which in which Democrat Max Rose conceded last week. The other is the race in NY-24 between Republican incumbent John Katko and Democratic challenger Dana Balter. Balter conceded that race on Friday afternoon:


Balter said she called Katko, R-Camillus, on Friday afternoon to congratulate him, a day after Katko clinched the election. Balter did not win enough of the early absentee ballots to overcome the 20 percentage point lead that Katko had on Election Day.


Katko led by 55,102 votes on Election Day, and had a lead of 44,729 votes (55.6-40.5%) Thursday night after more than 30,000 absentee ballots had been counted.


“The current absentee ballot count makes it clear that our campaign does not have a path forward,” Balter said in a statement Friday.


Balter also challenged Katko in 2018 and that time it was a closer race, just five points. This time it’s more of a blowout.


And there’s another New York race that is looking good for the GOP. In NY-22, Democratic incumbent Anthony Brindisi is being challenged by Republican Claudia Tenney. As of now, Tenney is still up in the race though it has tightened significantly thanks to absentee ballots that favor Brindisi:


Brindisi, D-Utica, is winning the absentee count 73-27% (25,998-7,787), according to unofficial returns through Saturday from election officials in the eight-county district.


Brindisi has now cut Tenney’s lead to 10,294 votes, down from 28,422 votes on Election Day. There are at least 20,000 ballots remaining to be counted across the district. Brindisi will have to win at least 77% of those ballots to overtake Tenney, a Republican from New Hartford.


There’s no telling how those remaining ballots will turn out but if Brindisi needs 77% to win and he’s been getting 73% then it sounds like he’s not going to quite make it. If Tenney holds on that would be another pickup for the GOP which would bring them to a net gain of nine seats. We’ll have to wait and see if that happens as two weeks is apparently not enough time for New York to count votes.

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 06:09 PM
......Wonder why people are skeptical????... Rigged Election!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em-iQ3XW8AE84ZM?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em-iQ3XW8AAIc-K?format=jpg&name=medium

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 06:21 PM
Why would anyone EVER want to discourage, demean or discredit an audit of an election? Any

election. Anywhere.....



Let’s get this thing Kraken!
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.IJU2yya8NtvgxLDZdJHdmAHaFR&pid=Api&P=0&w=224&h=160


Sidney Powell



" We have over 600 files flipped from T to B that’s over 4million votes. We have evidence of Germany

rigging the numbers while counting in Frankfort, the head of Dominion is the new advisor on Bidens

admin, Joe paid $50million and had Governors use Dominion this election. Fraud."

@SidneyPowell1

Author of LICENSED TO LIE-Exposing Corruption #DOJ #FBI/ & new book

@ConvictionMach1

/ Attorney 500+ federal appeals/ Counsel for

@GenFlynn

/ #Trump #MAGA Flag of United States

USASidneyPowell.comJoined May 2012

1,963 Following

696.1K Followers

LongTermGuy
11-16-2020, 06:30 PM
Ron
@CodeMonkeyZ
·
Nov 15

If the courts rule Dominion’s voting machines to be unconstitutional, then how many millions of ballots will be discarded?

Who wins the election if those millions of potentially fraudulent votes are discarded?

Quote Tweet

Dinesh D'Souza
@DineshDSouza
· Nov 14

The Trump legal team doesn’t have to prove the voting machines WERE manipulated, only that they COULD BE.

Any judge in that situation would recognize the implications of using vote counting systems that are subject to manipulation #Election2020results

Russ
11-17-2020, 08:01 PM
I consider this Presidential Election a huge blow to American democracy, not because Biden won the election, but because I consider the win to be entirely due to fraudulent voting.
Dems can say all they want that I don't have proof, and of course they can do their best to block anyone from looking for proof. But I do have proof that Dems did everything they could to allow fraudulent voting. When the Dems pushed to not require voter ID before someone votes, it's because they want fraudulent voting. When the Dems pushed to allow mail-in votes a week after the election with no postmark, it's because they want fraudulent voting. And when Dems pushed to not compare signatures on current ballots to the signature used the last time someone voted, it's because the Dems want fraudulent voting. They have "disenfranchised" the whole country with their orchestrated fraudulent voting.
Oh yeah, and one argument the Dems can never use when they deny fraudulent voting is to say that they are above that, or that they have too much integrity for that. We all know that nothing is beneath the Dems, and they have as much integrity as your average Antifa member when they are wearing a mask and sucker punching a grandma and her grandkids from behind when they are walking at a Trump rally.

Russ
11-17-2020, 08:08 PM
One other thing - Trump should pursue the election lawsuits, or else create a special prosecutor to investigate the possible election fraud. I don't expect the election to be overturned, but I want to see the fraud exposed to the public, and anyone involved to go right to jail.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA0glbG6c-8

icansayit
11-17-2020, 09:52 PM
As a veteran, and once proud citizen of this nation.

As of November 3rd, and all of the Highly Visible Fraud everybody is dancing around, pretending none of it happened...just to make Professional LIARS, CHEATS, and THIEVES feel good.

I am declaring...once and for all. "HOW ASHAMED I AM NOW OF MY SERVICE, AND MY SELFLESS DEVOTION TO HONESTY...That has been lost in the SELFISHNESS of IGNORANCE, HATRED and STUPIDITY of a LOUD FEW who are intentionally DESTROYING OUR AMERICA!"

I'm tired. Disgusted, and have very LITTLE confidence that our JUDICIAL system is capable of changing all of the WRONGS...because THEY ARE THE CAUSE!

My words: 9:48 p.m. November 17, 2020. A year nobody wants to remember.:crying11:

SassyLady
11-17-2020, 10:17 PM
As a veteran, and once proud citizen of this nation.

As of November 3rd, and all of the Highly Visible Fraud everybody is dancing around, pretending none of it happened...just to make Professional LIARS, CHEATS, and THIEVES feel good.

I am declaring...once and for all. "HOW ASHAMED I AM NOW OF MY SERVICE, AND MY SELFLESS DEVOTION TO HONESTY...That has been lost in the SELFISHNESS of IGNORANCE, HATRED and STUPIDITY of a LOUD FEW who are intentionally DESTROYING OUR AMERICA!"

I'm tired. Disgusted, and have very LITTLE confidence that our JUDICIAL system is capable of changing all of the WRONGS...because THEY ARE THE CAUSE!

My words: 9:48 p.m. November 17, 2020. A year nobody wants to remember.:crying11:


I thank you for your service even though America has lost her way.

Abbey Marie
11-18-2020, 02:06 PM
As a veteran, and once proud citizen of this nation.

As of November 3rd, and all of the Highly Visible Fraud everybody is dancing around, pretending none of it happened...just to make Professional LIARS, CHEATS, and THIEVES feel good.

I am declaring...once and for all. "HOW ASHAMED I AM NOW OF MY SERVICE, AND MY SELFLESS DEVOTION TO HONESTY...That has been lost in the SELFISHNESS of IGNORANCE, HATRED and STUPIDITY of a LOUD FEW who are intentionally DESTROYING OUR AMERICA!"

I'm tired. Disgusted, and have very LITTLE confidence that our JUDICIAL system is capable of changing all of the WRONGS...because THEY ARE THE CAUSE!

My words: 9:48 p.m. November 17, 2020. A year nobody wants to remember.:crying11:



I feel the same way, AT. It’s a tough time, knowing that the election was stolen, and this damn virus just compounds it.

But your service is unblemished by any of that. God bless you, AT.

icansayit
11-18-2020, 06:43 PM
Because I am such a nosy, inquisitive kind of guy...taught in the Navy to PAY ATTENTION TO ALL DETAILS. My habits have been accentuated with the development of the INTERNET.

I have a huge collection of various information, and sources that now exceed the 21 GIG storage capacity of many Personal Computers.

Here is more of what I added today, and nobody should take this for granted.
Call me whatever you like...but I do not LIE or make anything up.
This is not a Conspiracy theory. It is, and has been proven, and verified as 100% accurate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WSDObSrKTc&ab_channel=OneAmericaNewsNetwork

LongTermGuy
11-21-2020, 10:40 PM
The judge who threw out
@realDonaldTrump >>>


......PA lawsuit was nominated to the federal bench by Barack Hussein Obama........
The most corrupt president in the history of the world!!!!!

LongTermGuy
11-21-2020, 10:54 PM
Hey
@SidneyPowell1

@LLinWood
after seeing the dvs fileshare subdomain for Dominion, I scanned a wildcard

"dominion voting SYSTEMS(.)com" and it led me to a horribly insecure data center in Quanzho, China.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnGG1RwXIAQ6hiu?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

LongTermGuy
11-21-2020, 10:58 PM
So....Dominion sold Georgia it’s $100 Million voting system, last year.

Now that Dominion has been deemed an insecure/ faulty/ flawed voting system....will Georgia install

a better voting system in time for the 2 Senate run-off races in January?

Evmetro
11-22-2020, 02:37 PM
Hilarious that you picked up on calling everyone fascists.

The president is calling the obvious that the nation sees. The swing states, enough to put Trump over the top, are right there for the taking. But no, let's call it for the evening and see how we can delay things. :rolleyes:

Pennsylvania, Trump. 54% - 44.8% for Biden
Florida, Trump. 51% - 47.8% for Biden
Ohio, Trump. 53.4 - 45.2% for Biden
Michigan - dead heat at 49% for Biden
Texas, Trump. 52.2 - 46.3% for Biden

Arizona going Biden 51% - 47%
Wisconsin going Biden 49.9 - 48.9% = 246

And then do the math.

Unless something drastically changes aka cheating - welcome to another 4 years and the end of the nation! :rolleyes:

This post is a significant moment of history. Especially the "The president is calling the obvious that the nation sees." You posted this at the point where the software and corruption were kicking into high gear.

LongTermGuy
11-22-2020, 07:03 PM
​Submitted without comment.....

(https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1330627775514832896/photo/1)https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndW5XAVoAAxKt7?format=png&name=small

LongTermGuy
11-22-2020, 07:24 PM
Things are moving along very nicely for
@realDonaldTrump
.


His attorneys are pushing the process forward at the right pace.




Don’t get discouraged by mainstream or social media’s push to say, “He lost!”




They’re just distracting from the truth......

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1330649078372306945/md4mGWY4?format=jpg&name=900x900

The burden of proof in a criminal case goes in one direction. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty. Otherwise, they are (usually) acquitted.

But what the President’s team of lawyers are doing is a series of civil cases. That changes the rules from what most people see on an episode of “Law and Order.”
Let’s take a look at four key points to remember when hearing all of the “bad” news or negative comments on social media.................

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/22/the-is-zero-evidence-of-a-free-and-fair-election/

LongTermGuy
11-22-2020, 07:39 PM
Pay attention...

Lin Wood
@LLinWood
·
7h
Sidney Powell
@SidneyPowell1
is going to confront the Devil in GA this week.


So are many others. Some who have been quiet are about to speak out. The Devil has no idea what he is about to face in GA.


We The People are going to confront the Devil too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1330522440162635778/JPre3Hiz?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-promises-biblical-lawsuit-in-coming-days_3588851.html?utm_source=newsnoeshare&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-22-1

LongTermGuy
11-22-2020, 08:00 PM
On a side note....Liberals will continue being liberals...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndqbSOVQAI5xb0?format=jpg&name=small

icansayit
11-22-2020, 08:30 PM
On a side note....Liberals will continue being liberals...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EndqbSOVQAI5xb0?format=jpg&name=small


Here is a captured photo of the dog he took at the time...

Before, and After her KIBBLES AND BITS treatment by the DNC and Pelosi's Hair Stylist.

https://i1.wp.com/fatsaloon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/kathy-griffin-without-makeup.jpg?resize=620%2C400

LongTermGuy
11-22-2020, 10:38 PM
General Flynn
@GenFlynn
·
2h
.
@SidneyPowell1

has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours. She understands the WH press release & agrees with it. She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump & other Republican candidates

LongTermGuy
11-23-2020, 12:01 AM
:cool:.......

Chuck Callesto

@ChuckCallesto
·
Nov 21

BREAKING REPORT: Facebook REMOVES title of PRESIDENT ELECT from Joe Biden's page and

identifies Biden as POLITICIAN.

LongTermGuy
11-23-2020, 11:11 PM
E:cool:.....Excellent post. .TRUMP and the election...



https://social.quodverum.com/@REX/105252539602745345

jimnyc
11-24-2020, 01:26 PM
Censorship continues, shockingly. :rolleyes:

Speak something the left doesn't agree with - and you get suspended or locked - until you are forced to delete your beliefs or facts as you know them, or remain censored altogether. :rolleyes:

LongTermGuy
11-25-2020, 12:23 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnoRK0KWMAELVGJ?format=jpg&name=900x900





BREAKING: President Trump to Pardon Gen. Michael Flynn,

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-president-trump-pardon-gen-michael-flynn-per-report/

SassyLady
11-25-2020, 12:28 AM
Censorship continues, shockingly. :rolleyes:

Speak something the left doesn't agree with - and you get suspended or locked - until you are forced to delete your beliefs or facts as you know them, or remain censored altogether. :rolleyes:

Everyone needs to move from Twitter to Parler.

Get off Facebook, go to Rumble instead of YouTube, change email to Protonmail (get off gmail), get off Google .... if 73+ million people move free the market will balance things out.

Anyone know good alternative to Facebook and Google?

Move from Drudge to Conservative Playlist ... https://conservativeplaylist.com/

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 02:49 AM
***BREAKING***


The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday night blocked New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo from reimposing strict attendance caps at worship services in areas hit hard by the novel coronavirus.


*CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS JOINED THE DISSENT WITH THE LIBERAL JUSTICES.*

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 03:21 PM
I am thankful today for:


President Trump and


Justices


Amy Coney Barrett


Clarence Thomas


Neil Gosuch


Brett Kavanaugh and


Samuel Alito


G-d bless America!

BTW....I didn’t know Amy Coney Barrett was also a Veterinarian ..She just neutered Judge Roberts!!

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 03:46 PM
BOOM! Unsupervised Election Workers Messed with Voting Machines in Georgia After False Claim of

Water Main Break Sent People Home - ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO via

@gatewaypundit

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1331909855951679490/-LOxSeSj?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-unsupervised-election-workers-messed-voting-machines-false-claim-water-pipe-break-georgia-sent-people-home-caught-video/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 03:50 PM
It’s Thursday, November 26th 2020, and the Obama/Biden administration was the most corrupt in US history.!!

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 03:55 PM
Georgia Election Lawsuit: Dominion Software was Accessed by Chinese and Iranian Agents to Manipulate Election

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1332006295432556544/ks19qVJ3?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-georgia-election-lawsuit-dominion-software-accessed-chinese-iranian-agents-manipulate-election/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 04:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Enx5r0FXUAEHJOS?format=jpg&name=900x900

LongTermGuy
11-26-2020, 06:21 PM
BREAKING: President Trump will be holding a rally in Georgia on Saturday!

Kathianne
11-27-2020, 02:47 PM
I'm very glad he's heading to GA and naying on the push to 'don't vote-rigged' some were going for.

On the :( side, third circuit ruling has got to give more pause, since the President will have to pay court costs.

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/11/27/3-0-republican-panel-third-circuit-savages-trump-appeal-pennsylvania-election-case/

Kathianne
11-27-2020, 11:22 PM
And another house seat for CA:
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/11/27/california-house-race-finally-called-david-valadao/

Russ
11-28-2020, 10:16 PM
How about this suggestion for Pres. Trump - concede the election loss since the challenges aren't going anywhere, but appoint a "Special Counsel" (like the Mueller thing) with the directive of tracking down all voting irregularities in the 2020 Election and prosecuting anyone involved back into the Stone Age. If appointed, a Special Counsel could not get shut down by Biden.

One other thing, somebody go wake up John Durham and tell him he sucks as an investigator and he may as well go home. Everyone knows that Biden will shut down his investigation two minutes after the inauguration. "Do-Nothing Durham" spent almost a year accomplishing zero except charging the FISA court forger guy with some $20-fine misdemeanor. What a totally worthless investigation.

LongTermGuy
11-29-2020, 12:25 AM
"NO concede`...we Won they cheated and lost...The... "Americans" on SCOTUS can see what happened and will save America...They can NOT just lay down and give control to the Radical "Democrat" dangerous Leftist AKA > Marxists...which will be the end of America if they did"

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/2018-06/trump%20pointing%203_0.jpg

Kathianne
11-29-2020, 12:54 AM
How about this suggestion for Pres. Trump - concede the election loss since the challenges aren't going anywhere, but appoint a "Special Counsel" (like the Mueller thing) with the directive of tracking down all voting irregularities in the 2020 Election and prosecuting anyone involved back into the Stone Age. If appointed, a Special Counsel could not get shut down by Biden.

One other thing, somebody go wake up John Durham and tell him he sucks as an investigator and he may as well go home. Everyone knows that Biden will shut down his investigation two minutes after the inauguration. "Do-Nothing Durham" spent almost a year accomplishing zero except charging the FISA court forger guy with some $20-fine misdemeanor. What a totally worthless investigation.

I agree with the Special Counsel, but that is the DOJ that appoints, not President. I don't know that would get done and kept. Durham does suck.

Russ
12-01-2020, 08:29 PM
I called for this and it actually happened, kinda. AG Barr has designated Durham as a Special Counsel to continue investigating how the Russia Collusion investigation got started. I figured Biden would cancel Durham's investigation two minutes after the inauguration, but now he can't.

I wanted someone else besides Durham to do it, and I wanted the investigation to be about this election, not Russia Collusion, but at least it's something.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-appoints-john-durham-as-special-counsel-to-investigate-origins-of-russia-probe

icansayit
12-01-2020, 10:50 PM
If that Idiot What'shername Democrat Dummy in GEORGIA won't concede...why should the President???

The Dems are foaming at the mouth, knowing they win the Cheating and Fraud if the President concedes.
He wants WE THE PEOPLE to keep our country no matter what the Dumocrats say or do.


http://icansayit.com/images/americanever.jpg