Scott Rasmussen Has Interesting Results

[Kathianne]

I was fully 'never Trump' until Nancy ripped the SOTU address. To her I guess it was a 'strong stand,' to me and I hope others, it was a moment to reconsider what was happening.

I do not like Trump, didn't and don't. I warned he would bring chaos to the country, he has. Here's the thing, he has actually highlighted the chaos that exists, he wasn't alone in exploiting it. Of what he has done and what the left has done, well I had to rethink for this election. I don't know that another 4 years of Trump will bring more hate forward-that too isn't entirely on him. Others have obviously been waiting for the chance to explode in violence for the destruction. They are openly against the Republic and Capitalism. They favor dismantling the system-from both within and without.

I have to dismiss my misgivings about another 4 years of Trump. It has become obvious that a Biden/Harris win would result in a Harris presidency, with some cabal actually running things. A cabal that is fine with what has been going on in the streets of most major cities nightly or weekly, depending on locale. It's fine with governors working a country into anti-vaxxers in the midst of a very real pandemic. It's fine with doing away with free speech, actually most of the Bill of Rights. As for the actual process of the Constitution? Politicians have been undoing that for 50 years or more.

Anyways, if Trump does lose, my point that he should have reached out to those who didn't vote for him, but liked what he was doing. Instead he alienated most:

http://politicaliq.com/2020/10/19/never-trumpers-are-key-to-bidens-lead-in-the-polls/

Scott Rasmussen:


“Never Trumpers” are key to Biden’s Lead in the pollsOctober 19, 20207672

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[Kathianne]

To balance some of the gloom of Rasmussen, five-thirty eight is pointing out groups that Trump has improved upon-especially important is college educated Hispanics in FL-might offset the impact of senior losses:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/


Trump Is Losing Ground With White Voters But Gaining Among Black And Hispanic Americans
By Geoffrey Skelley and Anna Wiederkehr


Filed under 2020 Election


Published Oct. 19, 2020


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[jimnyc]

I was fully 'never Trump' until Nancy ripped the SOTU address. To her I guess it was a 'strong stand,' to me and I hope others, it was a moment to reconsider what was happening.

I do not like Trump, didn't and don't. I warned he would bring chaos to the country, he has. Here's the thing, he has actually highlighted the chaos that exists, he wasn't alone in exploiting it. Of what he has done and what the left has done, well I had to rethink for this election. I don't know that another 4 years of Trump will bring more hate forward-that too isn't entirely on him. Others have obviously been waiting for the chance to explode i violence for the destruction. They are openly against the Republic and Capitalism. They favor dismantling the system-from both within and without.

I have to dismiss my misgivings about another 4 years of Trump. It has become obvious that a Biden/Harris win would result in a Harris presidency, with some cabal actually running things. A cabal that is fine with what has been going on in the streets of most major cities nightly or weekly, depending on locale. It's fine with governors working a country into anti-vaxxers in the midst of a very real pandemic. It's fine with doing away with free speech, actually most of the Bill of Rights. As for the actual process of the Constitution? Politicians have been undoing that for 50 years or more.

Anyways, if Trump does lose, my point that he should have reached out to those who didn't vote for him, but liked what he was doing. Instead he alienated most:

http://politicaliq.com/2020/10/19/never-trumpers-are-key-to-bidens-lead-in-the-polls/

Scott Rasmussen:

Well said, Kath!

It was obvious in the beginning that Trump rubbed people in the wrong way, mostly of his own doing. Then he didn't help himself, and the left ran with repeated lies over and over from day one, and still repeat them today.

But the overall actions of the democrats have worn down those that weren't fond of Trump for various matters. Some of them will never get onboard with him. Some have learned to 'deal' with him and enjoy any good actions of his they approve of. Then some see the Russian BS and Nancy's BS and Schiff's BS & more & most importantly see through Biden's campaign and tactics and the rally behind him regardless. That alone is enough to get someone to avoid voting Biden. And some will move towards Trump based on a mixture of Dem actions and what Trump can offer and what the future may look like under Biden and "team".

Trump didn't do himself any favors in 4 years to gain back support from any supposed "Never Trump" folks, those on the right but not caring for him.

I think 4 more years of Trump will bring more chaos - thanks to the left, and already promised actions of activist groups. :rolleyes: But I do think he has much success as well.

A Biden win very well may have unknowns making decisions behind the scenes. We may see Joe resign and Harris take over. We may see socialist agendas on board. We'll see payroll taxes and other taxes out the wazoo. We'll see government ran healthcare. We'll see efforts to take guns away and make as many changes they can with any gun laws. What changes will they attempt with the police, if at all? Among so many other horrible things to think of, especially if they have the house and senate too.

I obviously liked a ton about his presidency, but he should have mended fences, with many individual, and then outwardly towards the republicans that didn't care for him. Yups, he may regret that one.

[NightTrain]

Trump will win big.

All the polls showing him losing are weighted to democrats - but as the 3rd approaches, watch all of them tighten dramatically in order to salvage credibility.

[Kathianne]

Trump will win big.

All the polls showing him losing are weighted to democrats - but as the 3rd approaches, watch all of them tighten dramatically in order to salvage credibility.

I hope you're right, it would perhaps give some pause. I'm cautiously optimistic with some of what I've read and heard. I think it's ripe for fraud and if close I don't want to think about the repercussions of either side.

[NightTrain]

I hope you're right, it would perhaps give some pause. I'm cautiously optimistic with some of what I've read and heard. I think it's ripe for fraud and if close I don't want to think about the repercussions of either side.


I still don't understand why they skew the polls. I've given this a lot of thought.

If the intent is to demoralize your opponent into not voting, it's having the reverse effect by further energizing the base - and thoroughly discrediting your own company.

It's just not logical. If the populace consists of 45% conservative / 45% moonbat and 10% independent, then get those percentages for an accurate number.

What good does it do to question 60% democrats/30% republican? They're all doing it, and it drives me nuts when I can't see the logic that must be there, driving this industry wide practice.

[Kathianne]

I still don't understand why they skew the polls. I've given this a lot of thought.

If the intent is to demoralize your opponent into not voting, it's having the reverse effect by further energizing the base - and thoroughly discrediting your own company.

It's just not logical. If the populace consists of 45% conservative / 45% moonbat and 10% independent, then get those percentages for an accurate number.

What good does it do to question 60% democrats/30% republican? They're all doing it, and it drives me nuts when I can't see the logic that must be there, driving this industry wide practice.

I'm not into statistics/polling per se, though I get how it works. The breakdown of those that vote is more or less: 30%, 43%, the rest flake between. However, in REAL numbers, democrats far outnumber republicans-but that includes lots of young ones that don't vote. Thus the oversampling. I'd venture though that the make up and even significant sub groups are changing, rapidly. I'm not so sure we won't see an influx of real socialist voters-really showing up. OTOH, I also think there is a far right contingent that isn't all that disengaged from the government as antifa members that may also show up-hopefully at different polling places.

Truth is, the electorate/the country is rapidly changing in ways I never thought I'd see on this scale.

[Abbey Marie]

I just can’t get past my belief that there will be rampant Dem voter fraud, causing Biden to win. And lord help us if John Roberts gets to make any election decisions.

[Kathianne]

I just can’t get past my belief that there will be rampant Dem voter fraud, causing Biden to win. And lord help us if John Roberts gets to make any election decisions.

I fear the fraud also, but moreso because it's further proof of the failure of the country. I truly feel both sides would now do so, but the media will only avert their eyes and investigations for the dems.

That one side is further along on the corruption may have more to do with the lack of time the right has turned towards the 'get even' line of thinking. There's no doubt, even among folks that used to feel differently, that 'beating them at their own game,' is the more practical way to go now. Some want to say that somehow that will 'shake the system up,' but that seems a real stretch.