If nobody else wants to talk about it. I will...

[aboutime]

There are documents being declassified every day, and the FAKE NEWS doesn't want us (WE THE PEOPLE) to know about them because they PROVE Obama, Biden, Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, The FBI, The CIA, and entire Obama admin were all guilty of the COUP...attempt they want hidden until after the election.


https://youtu.be/6DSrGemNSn4

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

There are documents being declassified every day, and the FAKE NEWS doesn't want us (WE THE PEOPLE) to know about them because they PROVE Obama, Biden, Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, The FBI, The CIA, and entire Obama admin were all guilty of the COUP...attempt they want hidden until after the election.


https://youtu.be/6DSrGemNSn4

This nation suffered 8 years of that totally corrupt president obama.
One must think and realize how that person got to be President and then won the second go-round.
What he did and what he and his crew did to win the second time was corrupt and illegal..-Tyr

[Gunny]

There are documents being declassified every day, and the FAKE NEWS doesn't want us (WE THE PEOPLE) to know about them because they PROVE Obama, Biden, Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, The FBI, The CIA, and entire Obama admin were all guilty of the COUP...attempt they want hidden until after the election.


https://youtu.be/6DSrGemNSn4I'm pretty sure most everyone knows this stuff. Who do you blame? The left for feeling immune to prosecution for the Right for not prosecuting?

[aboutime]

REMEMBER THE 150 Billion U.S. Dollars sent to IRAN by OBAMA?
That was HUSH MONEY because Obama covered up the DEATHS of SEAL TEAM 6.
Now the SHIT should really hit the FAN....I HOPE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCybWf1g9K8&ab_channel=TheNextNewsNetwork

[del]

REMEMBER THE 150 Billion U.S. Dollars sent to IRAN by OBAMA?
That was HUSH MONEY because Obama covered up the DEATHS of SEAL TEAM 6.
Now the SHIT should really hit the FAN....I HOPE.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCybWf1g9K8&ab_channel=TheNextNewsNetwork


https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2909117ecdbb6de8fdf9cba0bf60104/tenor.gif?itemid=4771286

The $150BB was money held by the US after the shah was deposed. Iran took it to court and won.
The US unfroze the assets.
It's not a pay off.

https://apnews.com/article/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schumer-pelosi-150-billion/


People who get their news outside of Fox News/Breitbart/ Gateway Pundit know this.

[jimnyc]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2909117ecdbb6de8fdf9cba0bf60104/tenor.gif?itemid=4771286

The $150BB was money held by the US after the shah was deposed. Iran took it to court and won.
The US unfroze the assets.
It's not a pay off.

https://apnews.com/article/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schumer-pelosi-150-billion/


People who get their news outside of Fox News/Breitbart/ Gateway Pundit know this.

Sorry ‘Factchecker,’ Nikki Haley Is Right — Obama Sent Iran a Planeload of Cash

The Washington Post’s “factchecks” of the first night of the Republican National Convention mostly represent Democratic Party rebuttals to what are debatable political contentions. One, however, stuck out as especially misleading. Here is a statement by former ambassador Nikki Haley that the Post takes exception to:


Obama and Biden let Iran get away with murder and literally sent them a plane full of cash. President Trump did the right thing and ripped up the Iran nuclear deal.

Why was this fact-checked at all?

The first part of Haley’s assertion is indisputable. The Obama administration sent the Iranian terror regime a planeload of cash. It says so right there in Glenn Kessler’s piece: “An initial payment of $400 million was handed over on Jan. 17, 2016, the day after Iran released four American detainees, including The Washington Post’s Jason Rezaian.”

The second part of Haley’s contention is merely an opinion — debatable, perhaps, but not fact-checkable.

Kessler’s claim that “the initial cash payment was Iran’s money,” on the other hand, is highly misleading. The cash in question only became “Iran’s money” after Obama secretly sent it to the Mullahs in an unmarked cargo plane — or, in the same way a bag of cash becomes the “kidnapper’s money” once it’s delivered.

In reality, the United States was under no obligation to pay Iran in the summer of 2016, or ever. We were in the middle of a long, unresolved dispute in front of the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal at The Hague over cash advances that were owed to the Shah’s government for military equipment we refused to deliver after the 1979 revolution.

You might recall that, in 1979, the Islamic Republic began prosecuting its war against the United States — taking hostages, targeting civilians, and funding anti-American terror groups that began murdering U.S. servicemen in 1982.

In any event, for over 37 years, through five administrations, the United States didn’t think it was “Iran’s money.” It was only Obama who secretly sent pallets of euros and Swiss francs to Iran, just as Haley contends. And that money was almost surely used to fund proxies that were not only perpetuating conflicts across the Middle East but also killing Americans, as Haley also contends.

Even John Kerry was forced to acknowledge that the money Obama shipped to Tehran would likely end up in hand of the Iran’s Revolutionary Guard — a group that is putting bounties on American soldiers and is behind the murder of 600 American servicemen.

Obama’s defenders rarely, if ever, mention that in 2000 President Bill Clinton signed the “Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act,” which dictates that no money should be refunded until U.S. court judgments held against Iran for damages due to terrorist acts against American citizens are resolved. They have not been.

The Iranian government, Iranian entities, and Iranian officials still owe Americans somewhere around $53 billion in outstanding federal court judgments.

And even if such a law didn’t exist, the ethical and moral course for any administration would be to make its citizens whole before sending untraceable bills to a group such as the Revolutionary Guard. The fact that the Obama administration was more deferential to The Hague and more concerned about the Iran Deal than the law might not be surprising. But it doesn’t make legacy-boosting “factchecks” any more convincing.

Rest - https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/sorry-factchecker-nikki-haley-is-right-obama-sent-iran-a-planeload-of-cash/

[del]

You're going to have to do way better than NRO opinion pieces.
Have some pride, man.

[Kathianne]

You're going to have to do way better than NRO opinion pieces.
Have some pride, man.
A cop out. Same could be said of most 'news' articles from the NYT, WaPo, etc. Just because they are considered "MSM" conferring gravitas, doesn't make it true.

Indeed, when an article is posted, agree or disagree by points, not the chickensh*t- 'Aw, c'mon man!'

[jimnyc]

You're going to have to do way better than NRO opinion pieces.
Have some pride, man.

So rather than knock it as opinion and walking - how about prove it wrong. Did John Kerry not state that? And do you think he was lying or wrong, that there's no way money wasn't used directly to the republican guard and/or other terrorist groups? Is it a lie about Clinton's bill? Have the issues been resolved as per the bill?

When I lookup the words of John Kerry, and the Clinton bill and what is in it... if it is wrong, the article doesn't get posted. If it is, then I will. So I try to avoid lies, and I do try offering backup of some sort for the things I write. And I surely don't knock the sources of another - and then use Snopes as my source myself - a well known owned fact checking leftist site, owned by liberal husband and wife.

How about you have some pride, and use facts and/or articles or something to backup the one liners. Or continue one liners and proving others wrong via comedy. :thumb:

[jimnyc]

A cop out. Same could be said of most 'news' articles from the NYT, WaPo, etc. Just because they are considered "MSM" conferring gravitas, doesn't make it true.

Indeed, when an article is posted, agree or disagree by points, not the chickensh*t- 'Aw, c'mon man!'

Thank you.

NYT, WaPo, CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC.... And Snopes of course.

[Kathianne]

Thank you.

NYT, WaPo, CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC.... And Snopes of course.

All sources. None are without biases, some are better than others. Again, hit the points, both sides now just try to 'win' by denigrating the site.

[jimnyc]

All sources. None are without biases, some are better than others. Again, hit the points, both sides now just try to 'win' by denigrating the site.

I try to read all sources myself, like them or not. I base things on facts, or try to best I can. Even CNN can supply an article containing facts, and I also read articles on Breitbart or other righty sites with non-factual opinions or garbage. Fact is though, after visiting hundreds of websites from both sides and posting articles from hundreds of websites over the years - the majority of the lies are with the MSM folks and their related websites along with them. Then places like the NYT with written media only. Sure, sources on the right that are horrible too. But no comparison, night and day.

[aboutime]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c2909117ecdbb6de8fdf9cba0bf60104/tenor.gif?itemid=4771286

The $150BB was money held by the US after the shah was deposed. Iran took it to court and won.
The US unfroze the assets.
It's not a pay off.

https://apnews.com/article/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/schumer-pelosi-150-billion/


People who get their news outside of Fox News/Breitbart/ Gateway Pundit know this.

It has been proven, and documented that the OBAMA Payoff for the Shah was nothing but a Cover story they created to hide THE REAL DOCUMENTED FACT...you need to choose to ignore....AGAIN because they don't please your love of ANTI-AMERICAN's being exposed FINALLY.

[del]

A cop out. Same could be said of most 'news' articles from the NYT, WaPo, etc. Just because they are considered "MSM" conferring gravitas, doesn't make it true.

Indeed, when an article is posted, agree or disagree by points, not the chickensh*t- 'Aw, c'mon man!'

An opinion, no matter where it is published, is still an opinion. It proves nothing.

[del]

It has been proven, and documented that the OBAMA Payoff for the Shah was nothing but a Cover story they created to hide THE REAL DOCUMENTED FACT...you need to choose to ignore....AGAIN because they don't please your love of ANTI-AMERICAN's being exposed FINALLY.

No it hasn't. If it had, you'd be able to post the documents and proof.
I'll ignore your attempt to paint me as anti-American because it's stupid.
It just proves you've got nothing.

[jimnyc]

An opinion, no matter where it is published, is still an opinion. It proves nothing.

Even opinion pieces will include facts in them. Argue the bias of the writer all you want, but it's the underlying facts that matter. And this opinion piece has quite a few of them in it. Almost the entire article in fact. I cut out all the parts with facts, and then bolded the facts.

--

The first part of Haley’s assertion is indisputable. The Obama administration sent the Iranian terror regime a planeload of cash. It says so right there in Glenn Kessler’s piece: “An initial payment of $400 million was handed over on Jan. 17, 2016, the day after Iran released four American detainees, including The Washington Post’s Jason Rezaian.”

Kessler’s claim that “the initial cash payment was Iran’s money,” on the other hand, is highly misleading. The cash in question only became “Iran’s money” after Obama secretly sent it to the Mullahs in an unmarked cargo plane — or, in the same way a bag of cash becomes the “kidnapper’s money” once it’s delivered.

In reality, the United States was under no obligation to pay Iran in the summer of 2016, or ever. We were in the middle of a long, unresolved dispute in front of the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal at The Hague over cash advances that were owed to the Shah’s government for military equipment we refused to deliver after the 1979 revolution.

You might recall that, in 1979, the Islamic Republic began prosecuting its war against the United States — taking hostages, targeting civilians, and funding anti-American terror groups that began murdering U.S. servicemen in 1982.

In any event, for over 37 years, through five administrations, the United States didn’t think it was “Iran’s money.” It was only Obama who secretly sent pallets of euros and Swiss francs to Iran, just as Haley contends. And that money was almost surely used to fund proxies that were not only perpetuating conflicts across the Middle East but also killing Americans, as Haley also contends.

Even John Kerry was forced to acknowledge that the money Obama shipped to Tehran would likely end up in hand of the Iran’s Revolutionary Guard — a group that is putting bounties on American soldiers and is behind the murder of 600 American servicemen.

Obama’s defenders rarely, if ever, mention that in 2000 President Bill Clinton signed the “Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act,” which dictates that no money should be refunded until U.S. court judgments held against Iran for damages due to terrorist acts against American citizens are resolved. They have not been.

The Iranian government, Iranian entities, and Iranian officials still owe Americans somewhere around $53 billion in outstanding federal court judgments.

And even if such a law didn’t exist, the ethical and moral course for any administration would be to make its citizens whole before sending untraceable bills to a group such as the Revolutionary Guard. The fact that the Obama administration was more deferential to The Hague and more concerned about the Iran Deal than the law might not be surprising. But it doesn’t make legacy-boosting “factchecks” any more convincing.

[Kathianne]

An opinion, no matter where it is published, is still an opinion. It proves nothing.

Then why respond? What is now considered 'news' in the MSM is often little more than opinion. Good editors are missed.

[aboutime]

No it hasn't. If it had, you'd be able to post the documents and proof.
I'll ignore your attempt to paint me as anti-American because it's stupid.
It just proves you've got nothing.


Never have to prove anything to those who refuse to accept the truth. Which...you will never have the power, or intelligence to CHANGE.