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Gunny
06-18-2020, 11:31 AM
I found ev, making his stand :). True, no Federal law requires the wearing of facemasks. No Federal law requires a bunch of crap one must submit to in order to fly on an airline. You still have to follow the rules if you want to fly. Simple as that.

Don't want to? Takes about 24 hours hauling ass to drive straight through for NY to TX. Hertz and Avis are by the checkout counters/baggage claim.


American Airlines has removed a passenger from a flight after he refused to wear a face covering in compliance with its Covid-19 safety policy.
Brandon Straka was asked to wear a face mask on Flight 1263 from New York to Dallas, Texas, on Wednesday.
When Mr Straka refused, he was asked to leave the flight, the airline said.
Mr Straka said there was no law that required him to wear a face covering on the flight.
"I was just removed from my flight for not wearing a mask. 1st time this has happened. Not a federal law," Mr Straka tweeted from New York's LaGuardia Airport.

Face masks have been used to mitigate the risk of spreading coronavirus during the pandemic.
While there is no federal law mandating masks on US flights, all major US airlines have been enforcing face covering rules for passengers and crew since mid-May.
On Monday, American Airlines announced "a stronger policy for customer face coverings" (http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2020/American-Airlines-Strengthens-Requirement-That-Customers-Wear-Face-Coverings-on-Board-OPS-DIS-06/default.aspx). It said customers who refused to wear face coverings would not be allowed to board and could be banned from future travel.


Who should wear a face mask or face covering? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51205344)
Air passengers told to wear face masks (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52498345)
How air passengers can stay safe (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52995059)

Mr Straka is a former actor and hairstylist who has appeared as a guest on Fox News, and founded the #WalkAway Campaign, which urges people to disavow their support for the Democratic Party.
The #WalkAway website sells branded merchandise including a $20 (£16) face mask.
The conservative activist described American Airlines' mask policy as "absolutely insane" in a video posted to Twitter, declaring, "We don't even have a choice anymore."

He said a flight attendant "made a mistake" by telling him "it was the law" to wear a face mask on the plane.
"When I pointed out this was not true, they said, 'yes it is, yes it is'. Eventually they changed their story to, 'it's our policy and if you don't do it you can't fly with us'," he said.
"I said, no-one has even asked me if I have a condition that prevents me from wearing a mask. The whole staff were standing around me, intimidating me."
A New York Times reporter, who was on board the flight, managed to record some of the dispute on his mobile phone.

In the video, Mr Straka can he heard arguing with a flight attendant. When prompted, she asks him if he has a medical condition, then if he has paperwork to confirm this.
After a tense exchange between Mr Straka and the flight attendant, a different woman can be heard shouting: "Sir, can you put it on or get off?"
American Airlines said there are exceptions to its mask rules for children, passengers eating and drinking, and those with medical conditions.
When asked by CNN if he has a relevant medical condition (https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/passenger-removed-flight-for-refusing-to-wear-mask-trnd/index.html), Mr Straka declined to comment, saying: "I find it difficult and prohibitive to wear a mask, yes."
The airline told the BBC Mr Straka had agreed to "comply with our policies" and was rebooked onto a later flight.
"Our team is reviewing this incident, and we are reaching out to Mr Straka to get more information," the airline added.
Mr Straka told US media he wore a face mask provided by the airline before boarding the second flight but took it off on the plane.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53091426

Abbey Marie
06-18-2020, 12:05 PM
Poor flight attendants. They have to deal with every cranky fool that flies.

I suspect that wearing shirts and shoes in a store isn’t “ the law” either. Yet we all do it, and I am very glad we do.

Kathianne
06-18-2020, 01:02 PM
Poor flight attendants. They have to deal with every cranky fool that flies.

I suspect that wearing shirts and shoes in a store isn’t “ the law” either. Yet we all do it, and I am very glad we do.
Indeed. You won't get arrested for not wearing shirt or shoes, though if the owner calls the police, you will get arrested if you resist your removal. Just as here, at Debate Policy, you may post what you wish, 'within the few rules given.' If you choose not to, the owner may remove you from the premises. ;)

Black Diamond
06-18-2020, 01:06 PM
Indeed. You won't get arrested for not wearing shirt or shoes, though if the owner calls the police, you will get arrested if you resist your removal. Just as here, at Debate Policy, you may post what you wish, 'within the few rules given.' If you choose not to, the owner may remove you from the premises. ;)

Sounds about right. Costco with the masks as well.

Kathianne
06-18-2020, 01:08 PM
Sounds about right. Costco with the masks as well.
Yep. If you strongly dislike mask or feel it's a lefty conspiracy and refuse to participate, just boycott any service or establishment that is forcing the issue. Find another place to be.

Black Diamond
06-18-2020, 01:10 PM
Yep. If you strongly dislike mask or feel it's a lefty conspiracy and refuse to participate, just boycott any service or establishment that is forcing the issue. Find another place to be.

Seen it happen. :)

revelarts
06-19-2020, 01:48 PM
it's not the law... it's our policy... do it or no service/no entry... we call the cops... removed/banned from

"no shirt no shoes",
remove your shoes, no liquids, pat down/feel up, scan,
Show ID,
Wear a Mask,
Thumb print, face print,
telephone number please,
"Boarder" check point, where are you coming from, where are you going,
Must take all vaccines,
Stay Home,
Curfew,
Don't Protest,
Don't go to the Beach, for 2 weeks... well... until we say "it's safe",
Don't Go to Church. for 2 weeks.. well... until we say "it's safe",
etc etc...
papers please...

I'm sure some people are fine with all of that and are ready to do EVEN MORE. And simply do not feel safe without gov't "authorities" telling (suggesting) them and everyone else what to do... when to do... how far to do it.

Freedom is not really considered at high priority... at least after the gov't tells us (and we believe) that everything and everyone is about to kill us if we don't comply.

At this point I'm just wondering how far it will go.
And at what point am I going to end up an outlaw for not complying with all the "safety measures".

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-19-2020, 02:50 PM
it's not the law... it's our policy... do it or no service/no entry... we call the cops... removed/banned from

"no shirt no shoes",
remove your shoes, no liquids, pat down/feel up, scan,
Show ID,
Wear a Mask,
Thumb print, face print,
telephone number please,
"Boarder" check point, where are you coming from, where are you going,
Must take all vaccines,
Stay Home,
Curfew,
Don't Protest,
Don't go to the Beach, for 2 weeks... well... until we say "it's safe",
Don't Go to Church. for 2 weeks.. well... until we say "it's safe",
etc etc...
papers please...

I'm sure some people are fine with all of that and are ready to do EVEN MORE. And simply do not feel safe without gov't "authorities" telling (suggesting) them and everyone else what to do... when to do... how far to do it.

Freedom is not really considered at high priority... at least after the gov't tells us (and we believe) that everything and everyone is about to kill us if we don't comply.

At this point I'm just wondering how far it will go.
And at what point am I going to end up an outlaw for not complying with all the "safety measures".

Using the old death by a thousand tiny cuts strategy. While bombarding us 24/7 with bullshit propaganda and unconstitutional acts/threats upon our person and/or livelihood.
Sure looks more and more similar to socialistic or Nazi type actions to me.
I refuse to wear a damn mask for this ffing scam up- deliberately engineered crisis..
Any place requiring wearing a mask can go straight to hell as far as this man is concerned.
One can only look at the current hypocrisy on who is ordered to wear a mask and who is exempted--seeing this blatant hypocrisy exposes the naked truth of it.
That it is driven by political design and agenda not by the truth of the medical danger presented.
Just as I stated from the start of this- THEY have done exactly as I predicted--THEY- would do-seize unconstitutional power, threaten, and destroy..
A good general measure of finding out what is true can be ascertained by reading the crap the dems promote and understand that the truth is just the opposite of that.
Works apprx. 99.9% of the time.-Tyr

Gunny
06-19-2020, 06:04 PM
it's not the law... it's our policy... do it or no service/no entry... we call the cops... removed/banned from

"no shirt no shoes",
remove your shoes, no liquids, pat down/feel up, scan,
Show ID,
Wear a Mask,
Thumb print, face print,
telephone number please,
"Boarder" check point, where are you coming from, where are you going,
Must take all vaccines,
Stay Home,
Curfew,
Don't Protest,
Don't go to the Beach, for 2 weeks... well... until we say "it's safe",
Don't Go to Church. for 2 weeks.. well... until we say "it's safe",
etc etc...
papers please...

I'm sure some people are fine with all of that and are ready to do EVEN MORE. And simply do not feel safe without gov't "authorities" telling (suggesting) them and everyone else what to do... when to do... how far to do it.

Freedom is not really considered at high priority... at least after the gov't tells us (and we believe) that everything and everyone is about to kill us if we don't comply.

At this point I'm just wondering how far it will go.
And at what point am I going to end up an outlaw for not complying with all the "safety measures".I think this is the most sane post I've ever seen from you, Rev.

As I have posted in the past, here's an easier way to put it: List the things you(we) are actually free to do.

Evmetro
06-22-2020, 03:27 PM
Using the old death by a thousand tiny cuts strategy. While bombarding us 24/7 with bullshit propaganda and unconstitutional acts/threats upon our person and/or livelihood.
Sure looks more and more similar to socialistic or Nazi type actions to me.
I refuse to wear a damn mask for this ffing scam up- deliberately engineered crisis..
Any place requiring wearing a mask can go straight to hell as far as this man is concerned.
One can only look at the current hypocrisy on who is ordered to wear a mask and who is exempted--seeing this blatant hypocrisy exposes the naked truth of it.
That it is driven by political design and agenda not by the truth of the medical danger presented.
Just as I stated from the start of this- THEY have done exactly as I predicted--THEY- would do-seize unconstitutional power, threaten, and destroy..
A good general measure of finding out what is true can be ascertained by reading the crap the dems promote and understand that the truth is just the opposite of that.
Works apprx. 99.9% of the time.-Tyr

Excellent post, it is a breathe of fresh air around here. I haven't flown since the covid propaganda war began, but I've had to wear a mask in order to enter a couple of businesses. My stretchy spandex style tube mask fits under my belt quite well, and I NEVER wear it unless I am stopped by somebody who is enforcing a mask policy. I see signs on some businesses that specify mask are required, but i enter with my mask tucked into my belt. I am rarely stopped.

Masks are democratwear, which is why we didn't see them at the Trump rally. Righties don't like sporting lefty colors

LongTermGuy
06-22-2020, 04:44 PM
Using the old death by a thousand tiny cuts strategy. While bombarding us 24/7 with bullshit propaganda and unconstitutional acts/threats upon our person and/or livelihood.
Sure looks more and more similar to socialistic or Nazi type actions to me.
I refuse to wear a damn mask for this ffing scam up- deliberately engineered crisis..
Any place requiring wearing a mask can go straight to hell as far as this man is concerned.
One can only look at the current hypocrisy on who is ordered to wear a mask and who is exempted--seeing this blatant hypocrisy exposes the naked truth of it.
That it is driven by political design and agenda not by the truth of the medical danger presented.
Just as I stated from the start of this- THEY have done exactly as I predicted--THEY- would do-seize unconstitutional power, threaten, and destroy..
A good general measure of finding out what is true can be ascertained by reading the crap the dems promote and understand that the truth is just the opposite of that.
Works apprx. 99.9% of the time.-Tyr

Well done sir...!!