One to really freak-out the Libertarians

[Abbey Marie]

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Wal Mart should equip their stores with these , let them roam the parking lot and chase off people who aren't dressed appropriately for being out in public.

[Gunny]

Wal Mart should equip their stores with these , let them roam the parking lot and chase off people who aren't dressed appropriately for being out in public.
I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course :)

[Black Diamond]

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Let's follow Singapore. Hell. Let's start caning people who don't social distance. :laugh:

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I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course :)


The robot dog, or the person who came to Wal Mart inappropriately dressed for being in public?

:laugh:

[Gunny]

The robot dog, or the person who came to Wal Mart inappropriately dressed for being in public?

:laugh:I may snicker, roll my eyes, laugh at or be disgusted by the way some people dress, but I don't think that is a capital offense.

On the other hand, if some idjit has his robot floating in the air, walking, or stalking around my house I hope said idjit bought the insurance. I wouldn't think twice about blowing away a mechanical spy :)

[CSM]

I was wondering what a 30-30 Win round would do to one of those. Fired from the appropriate "social distance", of course :)

400 meters should suffice

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400 meters should suffice

400 meters with a 30-30 would be a miracle shot. At that range you better bust out the .300 magnum.

[CSM]

400 meters with a 30-30 would be a miracle shot. At that range you better bust out the .300 magnum.
ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.

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I've done it more than once....but maybe I am just lucky

I definitely won't call you a liar, but I will say that you know guns and you know that a 400 yard shot with a 3030 is a very risky shot. For any shooter, the ammo just doesn't have the punch.

[Gunny]

400 meters should sufficeThat sounds like a challenge, Sergeant Major. 400 meters with a carbine and open sights. Just a little Kentucky windage .. :)

[Gunny]

ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.
.308 using an M-14 is good for 1000 m in the offhand (standing -- don't know what other services call it). That's match shooting in the Marines.

[Gunny]

The 30-30 I usually shoot at 100 m because I basically bought it as a big handgun. And the closest range only has 100 m :) Seriously, if I want a rifle, I have those too :)

Either way, only the knowledge that it would not be beyond them to call it killing a police officer in the line of duty, would stop me from shooting one of those damned things.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_Ui78DiY4

Lee- Enfield .303 No. 4 Mark II-- ten rounds fully loaded.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee%E2%80%93Enfield


The Lee–Enfield is a bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle that served as the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 20th century. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957.[10][11] The WWI versions are often referred to as the "SMLE", which is short for the common "Short, Magazine, Lee–Enfield" variant.

A redesign of the Lee–Metford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the Lee–Enfield superseded the earlier Martini–Henry, Martini–Enfield, and Lee–Metford rifles. It featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded with the .303 British cartridge manually from the top, either one round at a time or by means of five-round chargers. The Lee–Enfield was the standard issue weapon to rifle companies of the British Army and other Commonwealth nations in both the First and Second World Wars (these Commonwealth nations included Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India and South Africa, among others).[12] Although officially replaced in the UK with the L1A1 SLR in 1957, it remained in widespread British service until the early/mid-1960s and the 7.62 mm L42A1 sniper variant remained in service until the 1990s. As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth nations,[13] notably with the Bangladesh Police, which makes it the second longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service, after the Mosin–Nagant (Mosin-Nagant receivers are used in the Finnish 7.62 Tkiv 85).[14] The Canadian Rangers unit still use Enfield rifles, with plans to replace the weapons sometime in 2017–2018 with the new Sako-designed Colt Canada C19.[15] Total production of all Lee–Enfields is estimated at over 17 million rifles.[8]

Short Magazine Lee–Enfield Mk I (1903), Swedish Army Museum, Stockholm
Type Bolt-action rifle
Place of origin United Kingdom
Service history
In service MLE: 1895–1926
SMLE: 1904–present
Used by See Users
Wars
List[show]
Production history
Designer James Paris Lee, RSAF Enfield
Produced
MLE: 1895–1904
SMLE: 1904–present
No. built 17,000,000+[8]
Variants See Models/marks
Specifications
Mass
4.19 kg (9.24 lb) (Mk I)
3.96 kg (8.73 lb) (Mk III)
4.11 kg (9.06 lb) (No. 4)
Length
MLE: 49.6 in (1,260 mm)
SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 44.57 in (1,132 mm)
SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 44.45 in (1,129 mm)
LEC: 40.6 in (1,030 mm)
SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 39.5 in (1,003 mm)
Barrel length
MLE: 30.2 in (767 mm)
SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 25.2 in (640 mm)
SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 25.2 in (640 mm)
LEC: 21.2 in (540 mm)
SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 18.8 in (480 mm)
Cartridge .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
Action Bolt-action
Rate of fire 20–30 aimed shots per minute
Muzzle velocity 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
Effective firing range 550 yd (503 m)[9]
Maximum firing range 3,000 yd (2,743 m)[9]
Feed system 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
Sights Sliding ramp rear sights, fixed-post front sights, "dial" long-range volley; telescopic sights on sniper models. Fixed and adjustable aperture sights inc
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Huge fan of this rifle, I have shot mine at least once a year, hunted with it several times, since the early 90's... --Tyr

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ooops my bad .... read 30-30 and brain said 308.... sorry. 30-30 would about 200 meters max! .308 should be good to at least 800 (if not more) bullet drop for 30-30 would over 6 feet at 400 meters and probably take a week to get there.


LOL I was wondering, I was like wait a minute ........

A brain fart is the only explanation, because I KNOW you know firearms.

[Hot Dogger]

That little shit robo-dog, I took a walk in the park and stepped in a pile of batteries. :death:

[CSM]

I definitely won't call you a liar, but I will say that you know guns and you know that a 400 yard shot with a 3030 is a very risky shot. For any shooter, the ammo just doesn't have the punch.

yep... almost impossible

[CSM]

.308 using an M-14 is good for 1000 m in the offhand (standing -- don't know what other services call it). That's match shooting in the Marines.

Same for the active duty Army....

[CSM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_Ui78DiY4

Lee- Enfield .303 No. 4 Mark II-- ten rounds fully loaded.



The Lee–Enfield is a bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle that served as the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 20th century. It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957.[10][11] The WWI versions are often referred to as the "SMLE", which is short for the common "Short, Magazine, Lee–Enfield" variant.

A redesign of the Lee–Metford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the Lee–Enfield superseded the earlier Martini–Henry, Martini–Enfield, and Lee–Metford rifles. It featured a ten-round box magazine which was loaded with the .303 British cartridge manually from the top, either one round at a time or by means of five-round chargers. The Lee–Enfield was the standard issue weapon to rifle companies of the British Army and other Commonwealth nations in both the First and Second World Wars (these Commonwealth nations included Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India and South Africa, among others).[12] Although officially replaced in the UK with the L1A1 SLR in 1957, it remained in widespread British service until the early/mid-1960s and the 7.62 mm L42A1 sniper variant remained in service until the 1990s. As a standard-issue infantry rifle, it is still found in service in the armed forces of some Commonwealth nations,[13] notably with the Bangladesh Police, which makes it the second longest-serving military bolt-action rifle still in official service, after the Mosin–Nagant (Mosin-Nagant receivers are used in the Finnish 7.62 Tkiv 85).[14] The Canadian Rangers unit still use Enfield rifles, with plans to replace the weapons sometime in 2017–2018 with the new Sako-designed Colt Canada C19.[15] Total production of all Lee–Enfields is estimated at over 17 million rifles.[8]

Short Magazine Lee–Enfield Mk I (1903), Swedish Army Museum, Stockholm
Type Bolt-action rifle
Place of origin United Kingdom
Service history
In service MLE: 1895–1926
SMLE: 1904–present
Used by See Users
Wars
List[show]
Production history
Designer James Paris Lee, RSAF Enfield
Produced
MLE: 1895–1904
SMLE: 1904–present
No. built 17,000,000+[8]
Variants See Models/marks
Specifications
Mass
4.19 kg (9.24 lb) (Mk I)
3.96 kg (8.73 lb) (Mk III)
4.11 kg (9.06 lb) (No. 4)
Length
MLE: 49.6 in (1,260 mm)
SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 44.57 in (1,132 mm)
SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 44.45 in (1,129 mm)
LEC: 40.6 in (1,030 mm)
SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 39.5 in (1,003 mm)
Barrel length
MLE: 30.2 in (767 mm)
SMLE No. 1 Mk III: 25.2 in (640 mm)
SMLE No. 4 Mk I: 25.2 in (640 mm)
LEC: 21.2 in (540 mm)
SMLE No. 5 Mk I: 18.8 in (480 mm)
Cartridge .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
Action Bolt-action
Rate of fire 20–30 aimed shots per minute
Muzzle velocity 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)
Effective firing range 550 yd (503 m)[9]
Maximum firing range 3,000 yd (2,743 m)[9]
Feed system 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
Sights Sliding ramp rear sights, fixed-post front sights, "dial" long-range volley; telescopic sights on sniper models. Fixed and adjustable aperture sights inc
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Huge fan of this rifle, I have shot mine at least once a year, hunted with it several times, since the early 90's... --Tyr

Got one of those from one of my uncles a looooong time ago. I liked it. I do believe the 30-30 in question was the carbine (winchester model 94?). Much shorter range. I have a family heirloom 32 Special Carbine which my father won in a raffle the day I was born..... both the rifle and myself are antiques...lol

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Got one of those from one of my uncles a looooong time ago. I liked it. I do believe the 30-30 in question was the carbine (winchester model 94?). Much shorter range. I have a family heirloom 32 Special Carbine which my father won in a raffle the day I was born..... both the rifle and myself are antiques...lol

What a connection-rifle won in raffle day you were born! What a treasure....

I myself also had a Brit 308, but always wanted one of these..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MopYMnVXVA




Another video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w16pXWL2B2k-interesting..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w16pXWL2B2k

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Got one of those from one of my uncles a looooong time ago. I liked it. I do believe the 30-30 in question was the carbine (winchester model 94?). Much shorter range. I have a family heirloom 32 Special Carbine which my father won in a raffle the day I was born..... both the rifle and myself are antiques...lol


I'm about to see the prize of all prizes when it comes to guns. I just got an email from a guy who owns a pawn shop in town, he has had a Henry repeater on pawn for over a year, he's finally decided to sale it to recoup his losses. I'm going to look at it tomorrow, if the price is right, it will be coming home with me.

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I'm about to see the prize of all prizes when it comes to guns. I just got an email from a guy who owns a pawn shop in town, he has had a Henry repeater on pawn for over a year, he's finally decided to sale it to recoup his losses. I'm going to look at it tomorrow, if the price is right, it will be coming home with me.

Awesome! Never owned a Henry but have fired a few. Very very nice firearms.

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Awesome! Never owned a Henry but have fired a few. Very very nice firearms.


I've never fired one. It's weird, I'm not into hunting at all or even target shooting much , but I love to collect guns. Maybe the only rifle I would more like to add to my collection is the real holy grail , a Springfield .

[Gunny]

Got one of those from one of my uncles a looooong time ago. I liked it. I do believe the 30-30 in question was the carbine (winchester model 94?). Much shorter range. I have a family heirloom 32 Special Carbine which my father won in a raffle the day I was born..... both the rifle and myself are antiques...lolYou got it, Sergeant Major. It's a "fun" gun. I mostly shoot it from the hip. I took lessons from Lucas McCain every afternoon at 4:30 (CH 5) for a couple of years :) I keep telling myself I need to get that half-moon lever for it.

If I was head-hunting I have an M-14. :)

[CSM]

You got it, Sergeant Major. It's a "fun" gun. I mostly shoot it from the hip. I took lessons from Lucas McCain every afternoon at 4:30 (CH 5) for a couple of years :) I keep telling myself I need to get that half-moon lever for it.

If I was head-hunting I have an M-14. :)

I'll take the M-14 any day.... carried that for a year or two in southeast asia before they switched over.

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I'll take the M-14 any day.... carried that for a year or two in southeast asia before they switched over.


Damn you're old LOL when I first joined there were rumors of a few still being in inventory, but I never actually saw one in service.

Wouldn't surprise me knowing the military , but I never saw one.