View Full Version : $2k a month, indefinitely?
jimnyc
05-10-2020, 09:55 AM
That's what I was reading last night that some want. Send out monthly recurring payments of $2000 to every citizen. $4k if a married couple. And yet even more for each kid you have. And not one time, this they want until everything is over. Whatever they consider that. How the hell much would THAT cost?
And I still wouldn't get shit. Once again - this time would be anyone under $120,000 yearly.
Now lemme ask a question. Someone makes $15 an hour, but is forced to stay home. They get no money. They are desperate. The government helps.
Ok, our family does well, but what if folks making more ALSO don't get paid while at home? Is it supposed to be a guarantee that such folks apparently saved enough money magically to get through all of this, for an unlimited amount of time? I understand helping the lower income folks first and have no issue with that. Not fond of getting money from the govt myself that others will have to pay for. The principle bugs me I guess. As I know many out there make more, but are in situations where they still live paycheck to paycheck.
Kathianne
05-10-2020, 06:13 PM
Already have a problem for many that are collect unemployment; getting or got some money from employer when 'furloughed,' and states giving something like up to $600 per week. Many are making more being furloughed than they did working. Not good.
In fact, employers are saying that their employees don't want to return until July, when the 'extra money' is supposed to end. Ridiculous.
SassyLady
05-10-2020, 06:15 PM
Should not go to every citizen. Talk about creating a dependency on government ..... disastrous. Should be determined on a case by case basis.
I got the $1200.00 check. I do not need it because I'm retired. My income didn't change because of lockdown.
So, why did I get a check?
Gave it right back to Treasury department .... I used it to pay taxes I owed for 2019.
Kathianne
05-10-2020, 06:28 PM
Should not go to every citizen. Talk about creating a dependency on government ..... disastrous. Should be determined on a case by case basis.
I got the $1200.00 check. I do not need it because I'm retired. My income didn't change because of lockdown.
So, why did I get a check?
Gave it right back to Treasury department .... I used it to pay taxes I owed for 2019.
Indeed. I'm not heartless, far from it. I've never got though how states provide SNAP, (food stamps); WIC (Women, Infant, and Children) both for food. With both there is little that is outside of 'affordable' which is not true for most working people that make 'too much' to qualify. Ok, let that go.
Now however, schools are providing breakfast and lunch for all children whose parents receive SNAP and/or fall below a certain income, like $38k for a family of 4. Indeed, for the whole 'lockdown' and summer, schools have and will continue to provide these 2 meals a day, (Used to be 5 days, now it's 7 days-they just send 3 home for Friday-Sunday). Some schools, so concerned the children do not get enough food, (though obesity is often present), are providing dinner too. Yet teachers are often buying things like paper, pencils, art supplies because the schools can't 'afford to.'
icansayit
05-10-2020, 06:29 PM
It is Pure, Unadulterated, Perpetual SOCIALISM.
Eventually...the GOVT. (WE THE PEOPLE) will run out of money being printed, and it will become no more valuable than MONOPOLY MONEY.
If every American gets what the Dems want... all the Dems need to do is "STOP THE MONEY" whenever they feel like it...making all of the GOVERNMENT DEPENDENT citizens accountable to the WHIMS and DEMANDS of the SOCIALIST Politicians who love the idea of MORE POWER.
In other words. What the Liberal, Democrat, Socialists want is ALL OF US AS THEIR SLAVES.
STTAB
05-11-2020, 08:01 AM
Indeed. I'm not heartless, far from it. I've never got though how states provide SNAP, (food stamps); WIC (Women, Infant, and Children) both for food. With both there is little that is outside of 'affordable' which is not true for most working people that make 'too much' to qualify. Ok, let that go.
Now however, schools are providing breakfast and lunch for all children whose parents receive SNAP and/or fall below a certain income, like $38k for a family of 4. Indeed, for the whole 'lockdown' and summer, schools have and will continue to provide these 2 meals a day, (Used to be 5 days, now it's 7 days-they just send 3 home for Friday-Sunday). Some schools, so concerned the children do not get enough food, (though obesity is often present), are providing dinner too. Yet teachers are often buying things like paper, pencils, art supplies because the schools can't 'afford to.'
I have, through my position on a school board, argued this for years. We are letting many families double dip when it comes to things like SNAP and then providing reduced price or free lunches. My God, we're giving them SNAP, they can't use some of that money to buy lunch for their kids? It's a losing battle.
And yes, we've been providing lunches through this entire thing. FREE to all children 0-18. We don't even care if you live in our district or not, and yes of course there are scum who we know are traveling between us and the next town over who's school is doing the same thing, collecting a free meal from each. But there is nothing to be done about it.
And in the end, making sure kids have food is far more important than making a point to parents who take advantage.
Drummond
05-11-2020, 08:09 AM
Should not go to every citizen. Talk about creating a dependency on government ..... disastrous. Should be determined on a case by case basis.
I got the $1200.00 check. I do not need it because I'm retired. My income didn't change because of lockdown.
So, why did I get a check?
Gave it right back to Treasury department .... I used it to pay taxes I owed for 2019.
Totally agree.
I've posted many times in the past that Socialists want a dependency culture, where everyone looks to them for everything they want. Such a climate creates an unshakeable power base, where the Lefties in power maintain their power.
Money doesn't grow on trees. Socialists would love to con people into believing that the Government money tree exists, and is perpetually fruitful. They want a hold on people, one forever exploitable.
STTAB
05-11-2020, 12:09 PM
Totally agree.
I've posted many times in the past that Socialists want a dependency culture, where everyone looks to them for everything they want. Such a climate creates an unshakeable power base, where the Lefties in power maintain their power.
Money doesn't grow on trees. Socialists would love to con people into believing that the Government money tree exists, and is perpetually fruitful. They want a hold on people, one forever exploitable.
Yep, this little money was nothing but a "let us buy your vote"
Black Diamond
05-11-2020, 12:12 PM
Yep, this little money was nothing but a "let us buy your vote"
Do you think it's enough?
STTAB
05-11-2020, 12:19 PM
Do you think it's enough?
I'm holding out for a better offer
Seriously , I've got nothing out of this. I have a small stake in a local gun manufacturer and they took some of the payroll money, but we didn't take anything for either my farm nor our family restaurant, and we definitely make too much to qualify for any of the stimulus even with as many kids as we have.
In fact, when we closed the restaurant we wrote 43 of our 45 employees a pretty sizable personal check to help them get through this because we want them to come back to work some day.
Hot Dogger
05-11-2020, 02:44 PM
You'll get that $2K monthly check ONLY if you take the vaccine. The killer vaccine that kills the inoculated
about the age of 75. And it gets even more diabolical.
For example, the Kalergi Plan has overrun Paris. Now consider there's a Paris ghost city in China. Islam
gets Paris, France; while certain high-value French citizens get moved to Paris, China. The Muslims will
dismantle the Eiffel Tower in Paris because it doesn't matter to their culture, perhaps they'll replace it
with an 800 foot tall goat. Then in a few hundred years, nobody will even know a Paris, France ever
existed, the world will think Paris was always a Chinese city.
Have you ever heard of the burning of the Library of Alexandria? That's what's afoot here. The burning of
the Library of Congress, the destruction of the Internet Archives, etcetera. Bill Gates is now a huge player
in the NWO Globalism Agenda not only because of his wealth, but because of his IT expertise.
In light of world events what's weirder? What I just said or that we'll all get $2,000 a month for free?
STTAB
05-11-2020, 03:01 PM
You'll get that $2K monthly check ONLY if you take the vaccine. The killer vaccine that kills the inoculated
about the age of 75. And it gets even more diabolical.
For example, the Kalergi Plan has overrun Paris. Now consider there's a Paris ghost city in China. Islam
gets Paris, France; while certain high-value French citizens get moved to Paris, China. The Muslims will
dismantle the Eiffel Tower in Paris because it doesn't matter to their culture, perhaps they'll replace it
with an 800 foot tall goat. Then in a few hundred years, nobody will even know a Paris, France ever
existed, the world will think Paris was always a Chinese city.
Have you ever heard of the burning of the Library of Alexandria? That's what's afoot here. The burning of
the Library of Congress, the destruction of the Internet Archives, etcetera. Bill Gates is now a huge player
in the NWO Globalism Agenda not only because of his wealth, but because of his IT expertise.
In light of world events what's weirder? What I just said or that we'll all get $2,000 a month for free?
WTF? Have I missed something, is this guy real or just a parody?
Please be a parody.
Hot Dogger
05-11-2020, 04:21 PM
WTF? Have I missed something, is this guy real or just a parody?
Please be a parody.
I wish it was a parody, I was at USAMRIID as a MRV for five years where I opened
Pandora's Box, so to speak. I know why COVID but you'll have to read through my
posts for that. Laugh all you want but I still say nuclear war and invasion is coming
and soon. I wish I could deny that but I cannot, it's out of my hands.
icansayit
05-11-2020, 09:51 PM
https://www.usdebtclock.org/https://www.usdebtclock.org/
Hot Dogger
05-12-2020, 04:07 AM
https://www.usdebtclock.org/https://www.usdebtclock.org/
Except under the Federal Reserve debt is money, which is why that debt clock says it should happen.
STTAB
05-12-2020, 08:04 AM
I wish it was a parody, I was at USAMRIID as a MRV for five years where I opened
Pandora's Box, so to speak. I know why COVID but you'll have to read through my
posts for that. Laugh all you want but I still say nuclear war and invasion is coming
and soon. I wish I could deny that but I cannot, it's out of my hands.
This doesn't make a lick of sense. Not even a lick.
Hot Dogger
05-12-2020, 01:38 PM
This doesn't make a lick of sense. Not even a lick.
Then go back to licking something you understand - doorknobs. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1sf2CzEq0w
"You will come to know when the bullet hits the bone." :rolleyes:
STTAB
05-12-2020, 01:47 PM
Then go back to licking something you understand - doorknobs. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1sf2CzEq0w
"You will come to know when the bullet hits the bone." :rolleyes:
You want to have some sort of discussion about my intellect in comparison to yours? I'm your Huckleberry.
jimnyc
05-12-2020, 02:03 PM
You'll get that $2K monthly check ONLY if you take the vaccine.
Let's just start here.
I say BS, this is not the case, and nothing in any talks even mention anything close to that. Do you have links or supporting fact for this?
Same for any prior stimulus money.
In fact, there won't even be a vaccine for quite some time, IMO. And it will likely be long after the stimulus crap is over.
Prove this 1st point first.
STTAB
05-12-2020, 02:29 PM
Let's just start here.
I say BS, this is not the case, and nothing in any talks even mention anything close to that. Do you have links or supporting fact for this?
Same for any prior stimulus money.
In fact, there won't even be a vaccine for quite some time, IMO. And it will likely be long after the stimulus crap is over.
Prove this 1st point first.
Even the bat shit crazies leftist hasn't proposed any such thing, this guy is woah........
Black Diamond
05-12-2020, 02:31 PM
Even the bat shit crazies leftist hasn't proposed any such thing, this guy is woah........
Oh these conspiracy theories are out there. And people believe them staunchly.
STTAB
05-12-2020, 02:39 PM
Oh these conspiracy theories are out there. And people believe them staunchly.
Unfortunately though we have situations like with what what was done to Flynn and the rest of the Trump campaign team , that all looked like crazy conspiracy to say tons of people inside the government conspired to frame them for crimes they didnt' commit, but turns out that was true, among other stuff that we would normally think are just conspiracy theories.
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