Question: is the premise for new Corona RULES good or sound?

[revelarts]

Question: is the premise for new Corona RULES good/correct?
What is the state authorized to do to prevent a potential death? --from "Pandemics" or otherwise---
What's our line in the sand?

"...this new governing principle for society, of course, is implicit.
I mean, we’re going to sign on to it by our silent consent, not our explicit consent.
But, nonetheless it rests on a hypothetical—a hypothetical chain of infection that can take place in the event of a spreading infectious agent.

Now keep in mind, this has nothing to do with a novel coronavirus, SARS-COV-2. This is about a general principle.

But the principle holds that
if there is a spreading infectious agent of some sort that is hypothetically infecting people around the globe,
and you might become infected by this agent,
and you might end up passing it on to someone else,
who might end up passing it on to someone else, etc., etc.,
and somewhere down that chain of infection,
someone who is immune-compromised might end up becoming infected,
and they might be part of that sliver of a fraction of a percentage point of the population who might die from the disease.


And if that were to take place, well, of course, every single link in that chain of infection should be classified as a murderer.


And in order to prevent such a mass murder from taking place,
governments around the world are not just empowered but actually obligated to implement a sort of de facto medical martial law
by following the pronouncements of the duly unelected health authorities to do whatever they deem necessary
to prevent such a hypothetical chain of infection from taking place,
up to and including quarantining people within the walls of their own homes
and/or entering those walls to forcibly remove people from their own homes.

We are being asked to accept this abrogation of our most precious freedoms,
including our freedom to travel, our freedom of association and assembly,
our freedom from arbitrary detention within the walls of our own home,
our freedom of privacy in transaction and interaction, and other hard-fought freedoms
that were purchased at the price of our forefathers’ blood, on the basis of a novel coronavirus
that is presenting a novel, existential threat to humanity that has never before existed.


But that, of course, is a lie.
Because every single flu season for your entire life there have been such hypothetical chains of infection that have taken place.
And I have no doubt—let’s put it on the table—I have no doubt that there is someone listening to my words right now who has been involved in some chain of infection that has ended up in some immune-compromised person dying.


Never before has that person had to think of themselves as a murderer, let alone lock themselves within the confines of their own home to prevent such a murder from ever taking place again. But that is what we are being asked to accept right now....

we need to clearly articulate this principle that we’re being asked to accept,
if not then by our silence we will consent to it.
We will tacitly, implicitly consent to what is taking place right now.







article from the corbettreport.com

[Kathianne]

I think most of us agree that the lockdown needs to end in some places; ease in some others; and just slight changes in the hot spots.

Now, how people choose to act with the changes, may very well determine the future. While being 'out' by the very nature of biology includes risk of exposure, that in itself is not an insane risk for the healthy. What cannot be allowed to happen is mass exposures that may result in overwhelmed local hospitals in 2 weeks. Commonsense has to prevail.

People keep referring to Sweden, which is not without having paid a price, still is. Here's the thing, the Swedes to a large measure, trust government and actually will self-discipline to heed most warnings. So, while their death rate is high, they have kept the hospitals from being overwhelmed.

We'll see how Americans handle this situation.

[Evmetro]

I want to see responsibility put onto those who perceive a threat. If I think my local grocery store is full of people who are breathing out something dangerous or that they are smearing something dangerous on things I may touch, I have the responsibility to select appropriate protective gear to enter. I would not expect others to be responsible for me, I will take responsibility for my own safety.

Many have paid the ultimate price while fighting for freedom, and I have always felt ready to pay the same price for what I believe in. The government absolutely cannot have the power to stand between me and my constitutional rights, and I am absolutely not open to the government being able to override my rights for any reason. If there is a pandemic, the government will need to find other things to do besides infringing on my rights. The government simply cannot be trusted with our rights.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Question: is the premise for new Corona RULES good/correct?
What is the state authorized to do to prevent a potential death? --from "Pandemics" or otherwise---
What's our line in the sand?

"...this new governing principle for society, of course, is implicit.
I mean, weÂ’re going to sign on to it by our silent consent, not our explicit consent.
But, nonetheless it rests on a hypothetical—a hypothetical chain of infection that can take place in the event of a spreading infectious agent.

Now keep in mind, this has nothing to do with a novel coronavirus, SARS-COV-2. This is about a general principle.

But the principle holds that
if there is a spreading infectious agent of some sort that is hypothetically infecting people around the globe,
and you might become infected by this agent,
and you might end up passing it on to someone else,
who might end up passing it on to someone else, etc., etc.,
and somewhere down that chain of infection,
someone who is immune-compromised might end up becoming infected,
and they might be part of that sliver of a fraction of a percentage point of the population who might die from the disease.


And if that were to take place, well, of course, every single link in that chain of infection should be classified as a murderer.


And in order to prevent such a mass murder from taking place,
governments around the world are not just empowered but actually obligated to implement a sort of de facto medical martial law
by following the pronouncements of the duly unelected health authorities to do whatever they deem necessary
to prevent such a hypothetical chain of infection from taking place,
up to and including quarantining people within the walls of their own homes
and/or entering those walls to forcibly remove people from their own homes.

We are being asked to accept this abrogation of our most precious freedoms,
including our freedom to travel, our freedom of association and assembly,
our freedom from arbitrary detention within the walls of our own home,
our freedom of privacy in transaction and interaction, and other hard-fought freedoms
that were purchased at the price of our forefathersÂ’ blood, on the basis of a novel coronavirus
that is presenting a novel, existential threat to humanity that has never before existed.


But that, of course, is a lie.
Because every single flu season for your entire life there have been such hypothetical chains of infection that have taken place.
And I have no doubt—let’s put it on the table—I have no doubt that there is someone listening to my words right now who has been involved in some chain of infection that has ended up in some immune-compromised person dying.


Never before has that person had to think of themselves as a murderer, let alone lock themselves within the confines of their own home to prevent such a murder from ever taking place again. But that is what we are being asked to accept right now....

we need to clearly articulate this principle that weÂ’re being asked to accept,
if not then by our silence we will consent to it.
We will tacitly, implicitly consent to what is taking place right now.







article from the corbettreport.com

Suddenly for the first time the world decided to shut down to try to defeat what course Fate and Disease has always had the power to pursue.
How about the previous flu scourges-- no world shut -down?!
To me the question should be why with this one?
Was it just a convenient vehicle to grab more power and weaken freedoms/rights we citizens have?
Sure it was and it is..
If not - then I would would not have seen and found so many deliberate lies told.
Lies that snowballed the reaction into full on panic mode.

In these three previous pandemics shown below -such freedom destroying actions were not taken.
The nation did not shut down(the world did not shut down)- did not so ruinously compound the effect of the disease.
We should be asking why now are such extreme measures taken, imho.
Is it truly just a humane and caring action attempting to save lives or is far, far, far ,far more so- a political action taken to grab more power for governments and weaken freedoms that we citizens have?
Future may reveal politics and foreign influence so invaded the response that actions taken as of now, have and will caused greater harm than the virus has as of now. One must decide if the serious actions taken as of now are a great and very harmful overreaction...
Socialist media and that is exactly what the dem controlled media is has went in full bore to cause as much panic here in the USA as possible, imho.

1. 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus)
2. 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)
3. 2009 H1N1 Pandemic (H1N1pdm09 virus)

Numbers given for perspective and comparison.

1.

957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus)
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In February 1957, a new influenza A (H2N2) virus emerged in East Asia, triggering a pandemic (“Asian Flu”). This H2N2 virus was comprised of three different genes from an H2N2 virus that originated from an avian influenza A virus, including the H2 hemagglutinin and the N2 neuraminidase genes. It was first reported in Singapore in February 1957, Hong Kong in April 1957, and in coastal cities in the United States in summer 1957. The estimated number of deaths was 1.1 million worldwide and 116,000 in the United States.

2.
1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)
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The 1968 pandemic was caused by an influenza A (H3N2) virus comprised of two genes from an avian influenza A virus, including a new H3 hemagglutinin, but also contained the N2 neuraminidase from the 1957 H2N2 virus. It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus. Seasonal H3N2 viruses, which are associated with severe illness in older people, undergo regular antigenic drift.

3.

In the spring of 2009, a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus emerged. It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the world. This new H1N1 virus contained a unique combination of influenza genes not previously identified in animals or people. This virus was designated as influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 virus. Ten years later work continues to better understand influenza, prevent disease, and prepare for the next pandemic.

Summary of Progress since 2009
Ten Years of Gains: A Look Back at Progress Since the 2009 H1N1 Pandemic
The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: A New Flu Virus Emerges
The (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from H1N1 viruses that were circulating at the time of the pandemic. Few young people had any existing immunity (as detected by antibody response) to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus, but nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives. Since the (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from circulating H1N1 viruses, vaccination with seasonal flu vaccines offered little cross-protection against (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection. While a monovalent (H1N1)pdm09 vaccine was produced, it was not available in large quantities until late November—after the peak of illness during the second wave had come and gone in the United States. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.
Disease Burden of the H1N1pdm09 Flu Virus, 2009-2018
Since the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, the (H1N1)pdm09 flu virus has circulated seasonally in the U.S. causing significant illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths.

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.

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Since I have seen so much deliberate lying to instill fear and panic - I do not believe the self-serving lying propaganda that most of these lying asshats are now spewing about C-19 virus .
If any want to fault me for that -then so be it-- but my father taught me to be very suspicious of such dam liars and I will follow my father's advice since he was a very intelligent man with great insight, lifelong accumulated world knowledge and a most brilliant mind...
As I fault not others for their grave concerns and decisions -I fully expect others to not vilify or fault me for mine.----Tyr