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jimnyc

04-03-2020, 01:03 PM

Bad predictions, fear, and tons and tons avoiding hospital emergency rooms, and also cancellations and such by doctors/surgeons. So outside of Covid, the hospital emergency rooms aren't getting much business right now, and appears it carries over to the ships, since that's all they will be handling, is non virus cases. But if this picks up as they say, I think eventually they find their use.

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The CDC Doctors Screwed Up Bigly! USNS Comfort in NY Harbor Sits Idle with 3 Patients -- USNS Mercy in LA has Only 15 Patients

The Navy hospital ship USNS Comfort docked in in New York City on Monday, March 30, 2020. The ship was expected to bolster a besieged New York City health care system by treating non-coronavirus patients while hospitals treat people with COVID-19.

But after three days in the harbor only three patients have been transferred to the hospital ship.

The ship has 1,000 beds.

Another Navy hospital ship, the U.S. Naval Ship Mercy, docked in Los Angeles, has had a total of 15 patients, officials said.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/broken-models-cdc-doctors-screwed-bigly-usns-comfort-ny-harbor-sits-idle-3-patients-usns-mercy-la-15-patients/

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:06 PM

jimnyc

04-03-2020, 01:20 PM

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:21 PM

Hell, in NYC you may end up bedding down in Central Park!!
Samaritan's Purse has the tents set up there. (Told you I read way too much! Imagine if I lived near NY!) :laugh2:

jimnyc

04-03-2020, 01:28 PM

Cuomo addressed that this morning. Trama is down, car accidents are down, elective surgeries cancelled, etc. That is the reason they are turning Comfort into corona care, as is Javits now. Trump pushed through getting approval for the USN Comfort, which I referred to earlier.

Eventually the ER's will be needed more and more for things outside of this virus, and surgeries can only wait so long in some cases. I do think eventually these ships get their share of patients for sure.

And for anyone not knowing the Jacob Javits center or ever been there, the place is HUGE, so I would imagine they could make an entire hospital worth of beds there.

I don't want to blame anyone, which is why I have been clipping some articles early to avoid that crap. Believe it or not, even the WHO has to run with what they know at the time, and what they think is in the best interest of citizens. Same with the CDC all the way down to the hospitals and even local clinics. So while I was angry with WHO for a spell, I think I understand the why's, I hope. And not having ventilators in some places, like NY and how it was handled. Who cares about the past (even tho I know now it was NY state that dropped the ball), it doesn't matter right now and quite frankly, who gives a F down the road either. Thousands and thousands are out there doing their best and running with the information they have been given or know of.

I just kinda wish they could have some massive conference call nightly where all the medical community listened in on, and the same in reverse, and everyone could be one one page. The most frustrating thing about this - to me - has been the lack of knowledge in some instances, and then who the hell knows in others, where you have 999 people giving out different information! There needs to be a better messaging system to America. The fear from this thing has been incredible and the response from Americans a little crazy - and tons based on information all over the map.

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:31 PM

Eventually the ER's will be needed more and more for things outside of this virus, and surgeries can only wait so long in some cases. I do think eventually these ships get their share of patients for sure.

And for anyone not knowing the Jacob Javits center or ever been there, the place is HUGE, so I would imagine they could make an entire hospital worth of beds there.

I don't want to blame anyone, which is why I have been clipping some articles early to avoid that crap. Believe it or not, even the WHO has to run with what they know at the time, and what they think is in the best interest of citizens. Same with the CDC all the way down to the hospitals and even local clinics. So while I was angry with WHO for a spell, I think I understand the why's, I hope. And not having ventilators in some places, like NY and how it was handled. Who cares about the past (even tho I know now it was NY state that dropped the ball), it doesn't matter right now and quite frankly, who gives a F down the road either. Thousands and thousands are out there doing their best and running with the information they have been given or know of.

I just kinda wish they could have some massive conference call nightly where all the medical community listened in on, and the same in reverse, and everyone could be one one page. The most frustrating thing about this - to me - has been the lack of knowledge in some instances, and then who the hell knows in others, where you have 999 people giving out different information! There needs to be a better messaging system to America. The fear from this thing has been incredible and the response from Americans a little crazy - and tons based on information all over the map.

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing the same at McCormick Place, the one thing that's bigger than anything NY has for conventions. ;) I don't think they could get the Comfort through to Navy Pier though.

jimnyc

04-03-2020, 01:31 PM

Samaritan's Purse has the tents set up there. (Told you I read way too much! Imagine if I lived near NY!) :laugh2:

I think a lot of folks are looking to us to see what it may be down the road for others. And I sure hope folks are paying attention and also learning what NOT to repeat from NY idiots.

I think the "social distancing" announcements have been MORE than out there. Someone would need to be living under years of rocks not to have known. Same with orders to stay home and all that jazz. And FAR FAR too many simply aren't listening. So New York, a fair share of our problem is and will be a direct result of that. And what happens if we peak, then decrease, it starts to go elsewhere, and then returns? That's why a vaccine or that hydro medication is so dang important.

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:32 PM

Eventually the ER's will be needed more and more for things outside of this virus, and surgeries can only wait so long in some cases. I do think eventually these ships get their share of patients for sure.

And for anyone not knowing the Jacob Javits center or ever been there, the place is HUGE, so I would imagine they could make an entire hospital worth of beds there.

I don't want to blame anyone, which is why I have been clipping some articles early to avoid that crap. Believe it or not, even the WHO has to run with what they know at the time, and what they think is in the best interest of citizens. Same with the CDC all the way down to the hospitals and even local clinics. So while I was angry with WHO for a spell, I think I understand the why's, I hope. And not having ventilators in some places, like NY and how it was handled. Who cares about the past (even tho I know now it was NY state that dropped the ball), it doesn't matter right now and quite frankly, who gives a F down the road either. Thousands and thousands are out there doing their best and running with the information they have been given or know of.

I just kinda wish they could have some massive conference call nightly where all the medical community listened in on, and the same in reverse, and everyone could be one one page. The most frustrating thing about this - to me - has been the lack of knowledge in some instances, and then who the hell knows in others, where you have 999 people giving out different information! There needs to be a better messaging system to America. The fear from this thing has been incredible and the response from Americans a little crazy - and tons based on information all over the map.

I blame WHO for the masks. Indeed, pretty sure they've done nothing but give China cover for this whole thing.

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:35 PM

I think a lot of folks are looking to us to see what it may be down the road for others. And I sure hope folks are paying attention and also learning what NOT to repeat from NY idiots.

I think the "social distancing" announcements have been MORE than out there. Someone would need to be living under years of rocks not to have known. Same with orders to stay home and all that jazz. And FAR FAR too many simply aren't listening. So New York, a fair share of our problem is and will be a direct result of that. And what happens if we peak, then decrease, it starts to go elsewhere, and then returns? That's why a vaccine or that hydro medication is so dang important.

It's pretty dang hard to plan for something of this magnitude.

I do think the administration, at least the President, did misstep for those first crucial weeks, especially AFTER the China closure. I've said before, I think it's in his nature to 'risk big,' as a business person. It took awhile for that to stop, but since then he's done a good job.

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 01:45 PM

Just checked the stats. Deaths up well over 700 already today. :(

jimnyc

04-03-2020, 02:13 PM

Just checked the stats. Deaths up well over 700 already today. :(

My numbers aren't even up to date yet - but look at the day I first started posting them, March 23rd. What, 10 days ago or so? There were around 353k around the world, now it's like what, 1.1+ million? New York City had 10,700 cases and we had 1873 here in Westchester. Now? NYC has well over 57,000 cases and by me last update was like 12,400 cases. And that's missing a TON of people not tested. So it's bad, and got much much worse in 10 days. About 10,000 more dead in Italy in that time.

I'm waiting on the latest update, even though they are behind, and post them shortly!

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 03:00 PM

My numbers aren't even up to date yet - but look at the day I first started posting them, March 23rd. What, 10 days ago or so? There were around 353k around the world, now it's like what, 1.1+ million? New York City had 10,700 cases and we had 1873 here in Westchester. Now? NYC has well over 57,000 cases and by me last update was like 12,400 cases. And that's missing a TON of people not tested. So it's bad, and got much much worse in 10 days. About 10,000 more dead in Italy in that time.

I'm waiting on the latest update, even though they are behind, and post them shortly!

Is this the site you're using? Can click on yesterday's number or switch to world.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Last updated: April 03, 2020, 19:55 GMT
https://www.worldometers.info/img/flags/small/tn_us-flag.gif
United States
Coronavirus Cases:270,062

Deaths:6,927

Recovered:12,015

Climbing too fast. :(

USA
State
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Active
Cases
Source

New York
102,863
+9,810
2,935
+397
91,042
[1 (https://abc7ny.com/health/live-%7C-gov-cuomo-covid-19-update-as-ny-ventilator-supply-shrinks/5989875/)] [2 (https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1246090991427182592)] [3 (https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1246092571274809344/photo/1)] [4 (https://twitter.com/wcbs880/status/1246092915153211392)] [5 (https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary.pdf)] [6 (https://gis.suffolkcountyny.gov/portal/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/76a26a0c83634266aa9efc35bd4f1975)] [7 (https://erieny.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/dd7f1c0c352e4192ab162a1dfadc58e1)] [8 (https://covid19.ulstercountyny.gov/)] [9 (https://socpa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/7bd218bc8be04b209c0b80a83fc2eba5)] [10 (https://mappingmonroe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/217749730f174776a3896b3e8950e03b)] [11 (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases)] [12 (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/how-many-in-tri-state-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-here-are-latest-cases-by-the-numbers/2317721/)]

New Jersey
29,895
+4,305
646
+109
29,249
[1 (https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml)] [2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McbKmtOrgc8)]

Michigan
12,744
+1,953
479
+62
12,260
[1 (https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/)] [2 (https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163-520743--,00.html)]

California
11,207
+369
246
+12
10,111
[1 (https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/)]

Louisiana
10,297
+1,147
370
+60
9,907
[1 (http://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/)]

Florida
9,585
+577
163
+19
9,422
[1 (https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86)] [2 (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)]

Massachusetts
8,966

154

8,802
[1 (https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-april-2-2020/download)] [2 (https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-cases-quarantine-and-monitoring)]

Illinois
8,904
+1,209
210
+53
8,692
[1 (https://coronavirus.illinois.gov/s/)] [2 (https://coronavirus.illinois.gov/s/county-map)] [3 (https://multimedia.illinois.gov/press/press-live.html)] [4 (https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/covid-19/home/latest-data.html)]

Pennsylvania
8,420
+1,156
102
+12
8,280
[1 (https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx)] [2 (https://www.phila.gov/programs/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/)] [3 (https://www.phila.gov/2020-03-30-city-provides-update-on-covid-19-for-monday-march-30-2020/)] [4 (https://chesco.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bce5af8a6f454ee78e00b5adc67f4c4a)]

Washington
6,585

272

5,750
[1 (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus)] [2 (https://www.snohd.org/499/COVID-19-Case-Count-Info)] [3 (https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/health/communicable-diseases/disease-control/novel-coronavirus.aspx)] [4 (https://www.whatcomcounty.us/3329/Novel-Coronavirus-COVID-19#case)] [5 (https://www.yakimacounty.us/2323/COVID-19)] [6 (https://www.columbian.com/news/2020/mar/29/sunday-covid-19-updates-eight-new-clark-county-cases/)] [7 (https://www.tpchd.org/healthy-people/diseases/covid-19-pierce-county-cases/)] [8 (https://www.whatcomcounty.us/3329/Novel-Coronavirus-COVID-19#case)] [9 (https://www.bfhd.wa.gov/cms/One.aspx?portalId=10766056&pageId=16584954)] [10 (https://www.islandcountywa.gov/Health/Pages/COVID-19.aspx)] [11 (https://srhd.org/covid19)] [12 (https://www.thurstoncountywa.gov/phss/Pages/coronavirus.aspx)]

Georgia
5,831
+483
184
+21
5,647
[1 (https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report)] [2 (https://www.moultrieobserver.com/news/local_news/cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-colquitt-county/article_7b73bd84-6d4d-11ea-a304-3394ab95b4f6.html)] [3 (https://coastalcourier.com/news/first-confirmed-case-liberty-county/)]

Texas
5,330
+507
90
+13
5,133
[1 (https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83)] [2 (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/article/texas-coronavirus-map-cases-houston-covid-19-15137466.php)] [3 (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/what-we-know-about-coronavirus-cases-in-north-texas-around-the-state/2335449/)]

Connecticut
3,824

112

3,712
[1 (https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Coronavirus/CTDPHCOVID19summary4022020.pdf?la=en)] [2 (https://portal.ct.gov/Coronavirus)] [3 (https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Coronavirus/CTDPHCOVID19summary3222020.pdf?la=en)]

Colorado
3,728

97

3,631
[1 (https://covid19.colorado.gov/case-data)]

Indiana
3,437
+398
102
+24
3,335
[1 (https://twitter.com/StateHealthIN/status/1246081925032357890)] [2 (https://www.in.gov/coronavirus/)]

Ohio
3,312
+410
91
+10
3,221
[1 (https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/home)]

Tennessee
3,194

37
+5
2,937
[1 (https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html)] [2 (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/mayor-john-cooper-metro-health-officials-to-give-covid-19-update-at-9-30-a-m-april-2)]

Maryland
2,758
+427
42
+6
2,557
[1 (https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/)]

Missouri
2,113
+279
19

2,092
[1 (https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/novel-coronavirus/)]

North Carolina
2,093
+70
19
+1
2,054
[1 (https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article241729696.html)] [2 (https://www.ncdhhs.gov/covid-19-case-count-nc)]

Virginia
2,012
+306
46
+5
1,964
[1 (http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/)]

Wisconsin
1,912
+182
41
+3
1,869
[1 (https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/outbreaks/index.htm)] [2 (https://projects.jsonline.com/topics/coronavirus/tracking/covid-19-cases-testing-and-deaths-in-wisconsin.html)]

Arizona
1,769
+171
41
+9
1,725
[1 (https://www.azdhs.gov/)]

South Carolina
1,554

31

1,523
[1 (https://www.scdhec.gov/monitoring-testing-covid-19)]

Nevada
1,514
+56
43
+5
1,471
[1 (https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMjA2ZThiOWUtM2FlNS00MGY5LWFmYjUtNmQ wNTQ3Nzg5N2I2IiwidCI6ImU0YTM0MGU2LWI4OWUtNGU2OC04Z WFhLTE1NDRkMjcwMzk4MCJ9)] [2 (https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/nevada-passes-covid--cases-deaths-reported-in-state/article_c3a9d4fa-711f-11ea-951e-4f4e35d46d4a.htm)]

Alabama
1,432
+171
35
+3
1,397
[1 (https://alpublichealth.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/6d2771faa9da4a2786a509d82c8cf0f7)]

Mississippi
1,358
+181
29
+3
1,329
[1 (https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html#Mississippi)]

Utah
1,246
+172
7

1,239
[1 (https://coronavirus.utah.gov/case-counts/)]

Oklahoma
988
+109
38
+4
949
[1 (https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/)]

Idaho
891

9

882
[1 (https://coronavirus.idaho.gov/)] [2 (https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/idaho-coronavirus-latest-9-deaths-566-cases-bingham-county-sees-community-spread/277-227f82c3-8206-4c34-916a-2db6b4f012e6)]

Oregon
826

21

805
[1 (https://govstatus.egov.com/OR-OHA-COVID-19)] [2 (https://twitter.com/KOINNews/status/1243980757585952768)] [3 (https://projects.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/)]

Minnesota
789
+47
22
+4
479
[1 (https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html)]

Kentucky
770

31

675
[1 (https://govstatus.egov.com/kycovid19)] [2 (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/kentucky-covid-19-death-toll-rises-to-31)]

District Of Columbia
757
+104
15
+3
569
[1 (https://coronavirus.dc.gov/page/coronavirus-data)]

Rhode Island
711
+54
14
+2
697
[1 (https://www.providencejournal.com/news/20200403/2-deaths-54-new-cases-of-coronavirus-in-ri-residents-encouraged-to-wear-face-coverings-when-in-public)] [2 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n-zMS9Al94CPj_Tc3K7Adin-tN9x1RSjjx2UzJ4SV7Q/edit#gid=0)] [3 (https://health.ri.gov/data/covid-19/)] [4 (https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus/march-29-ri-coronavirus-update/)]

Arkansas
704
+21
12

632
[1 (https://adem.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f533ac8a8b6040e5896b05b47b17a647)] [2 (https://www.youtube.com/c/GovernorAsaHutchinson/live)]

Iowa
699
+85
11

670
[1 (https://idph.iowa.gov/Emerging-Health-Issues/Novel-Coronavirus)] [2 (https://twitter.com/IAPublicHealth)] [3 (https://www.3newsnow.com/news/coronavirus/in-iowa-66-more-coronavirus-cases-and-two-additional-deaths-b)]

Kansas
620
+68
17
+4
603
[1 (https://public.tableau.com/profile/kdhe.epidemiology#!/vizhome/COVID-19Data_15851817634470/KSCOVID-19CaseData)] [2 (https://govstatus.egov.com/coronavirus)] [3 (http://www.kake.com/story/41962873/coronavirus-in-kansas-483-confirmed-cases-11-deaths)]

New Hampshire
479

5

383
[1 (https://www.nhpr.org/post/coronavirus-update-4th-person-dies-nh-48-new-cases-bring-states-total-415#stream/0)] [2 (https://www.nh.gov/covid19/)] [3 (https://www.wmur.com/article/coronavirus-covid-19-new-hampshire-updates/31955742)]

Delaware
450
+57
13
+1
366
[1 (https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/)] [2 (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/health/2020/03/23/carney-declares-public-health-emergency-more-covid-19-cases-confirmed-delaware/2903170001/)] [3 (https://www.wdel.com/news/delaware-covid--death-toll-jumps-to/article_6f9c1b0a-7135-11ea-ae0a-17a089910776.html)]

Maine
432
+56
9
+2
310
[1 (https://www.maine.gov/dhhs/mecdc/infectious-disease/epi/airborne/coronavirus.shtml)] [2 (https://www.pressherald.com/2020/03/29/coronavirus-case-reports-up-to-253-in-maine/)]

New Mexico
403

7

396
[1 (https://cv.nmhealth.org/)] [2 (https://www.koat.com/article/first-covid-19-death-reported-in-new-mexico/31928123)]

Vermont
389
+51
17

372
[1 (https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/infectious-disease/2019-novel-coronavirus)]

Hawaii
285

1

226
[1 (https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/)]

Nebraska
279
+33
6
+1
273
[1 (https://nebraska.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/4213f719a45647bc873ffb58783ffef3)] [2 (http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/Coronavirus.aspx)] [3 (https://www.ketv.com/article/dhhs-third-covid-19-death-confirmed-in-nebraska/31984956)]

Montana
243
+16
6

237
[1 (https://montana.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=7c34f3412536439491adcc2103421d4b)] [2 (https://nbcmontana.com/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases-rise-in-montana)] [3 (https://nbcmontana.com/news/coronavirus/3rd-toole-co-death-brings-montana-coronavirus-deaths-to-6)]

West Virginia
237
+20
2

235
[1 (https://dhhr.wv.gov/COVID-19/Pages/default.aspx)]

South Dakota
187
+22
2

117
[1 (https://doh.sd.gov/news/Coronavirus.aspx)]

North Dakota
173
+14
3

115
[1 (https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/north-dakota-coronavirus-cases)]

Wyoming
162
+12

136
[1 (https://health.wyo.gov/publichealth/infectious-disease-epidemiology-unit/disease/novel-coronavirus/covid-19-map-and-statistics/)] [2 (https://health.wyo.gov/publichealth/infectious-disease-epidemiology-unit/disease/novel-coronavirus/)]

Alaska
151
+8
3

148
[1 (http://dhss.alaska.gov/dph/Epi/id/Pages/COVID-19/monitoring.aspx)] [2 (http://www.newsminer.com/alerts/alaska-coronavirus-tally-rises-to-151-cases-nearly-a-third-in-the-fairbanks-borough/article_51929540-7549-11ea-b524-eb2ecae9a3b9.html)]

Guam
82

4
+1
71
[1 (http://mvariety.com/cnmi-local/73-local/2857-guam-reports-third-covid-19-related-death)] [2 (https://ghs.guam.gov/jic-release-no-46-five-test-positive-covid-19-dphss-guidance-be-proactive-take-action-protect)] [3 (https://ghs.guam.gov/jic-release-no-50-fourth-covid-19-related-fatality-guam)]

Northern Mariana Islands
8

1

7
[1 (https://www.mvariety.com/cnmi-local/73-local/2904-nmi-has-2-new-covid-19-cases-2)]

Puerto Rico
378
+62
15
+3
359
[1 (https://www.elnuevodia.com/noticias/locales/nota/unamujerde48anoseslaterceramuerteporcoronavirusenp uertorico-2556277/)] [2 (https://www.telemundopr.com/noticias/puerto-rico/salud-suben-a-15-las-muertes-y-se-reportan-62-nuevos-contagios-por-covid-19/2066363/)]

United States Virgin Islands
37
+7

8
[1 (https://viconsortium.com/vi-coronavirus/virgin-islands-30-cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-usvi-as-dept-of-health-announces-7-additional-infections-)]

Wuhan Repatriated
3

3

Diamond Princess Cruise
46

46

Total:
270,062
25,185
6,927
857
251,120

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 03:08 PM

What do you think of this on models? Figures from Wednesday's news conference?

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/04/03/experts-wonder-white-house-getting-estimate-240000-deaths/