Covid-19 Stats updates [Archive] - Debate Policy

Drummond

03-23-2020, 12:45 PM

Myself, I need to see numbers, stats, hard facts to enter to the 'ol ticker to make things compute. :)

Watching numbers increase puts another angle on things.

I chose points of interest and of course my own, and if anyone wants a specific area involved and updated, just lemme know!!

While I collected some stats, I had to refresh and go back to gather a few more. In that few minutes, there was already a change in the US!

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Total Confirmed
351,731 - 353,692 (the first was the total half an hour ago, and now updated)

Cases in the USA - 35,241 - 35,345 (the first was the total half an hour ago, and now updated)

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 10,764
Deaths: 99

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 1,873
Deaths: 0

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 409
Deaths: 5

United Kingdom
Confirmed: 5,683
Deaths: 289

Italy
Confirmed: 59,138
Deaths: 5,476

On your UK figure, the latest additions to deaths just broadcast on LBC is .. 46 more deaths in England ... just 4 deaths in Wales, where I am. These cover the past 24 hours.

By the way ... Sadiq Khan, London's Leftie mayor, has been taking time off from his favourite pastime, that of issuing vitriol against Donald Trump. He decided to do something to manage what happens in London.

At the end of last week, he implemented a reduction of the London Underground rail service .. saying that as demand for transport had dropped, no purpose was served by running the same train quantities.

So, today, those still needing to travel to work, did so. They found that reduced services created 'normal' travelling conditions ... and during rush hour, that means that people are crammed into carriages like sardines.

Sadiq Khan, I believe, can share something of the blame should infection rates soar still further in London.

jimnyc

03-24-2020, 02:02 PM

Here are stats for today, collected around 1pm EST or so. You'll see some larger increases in NYC and now 2,000 more cases by me in ONE DAY. :(

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Total Confirmed
407,485 an increase of 53,793 since yesterday

Cases in the USA - 49,768 an increase of 14,423

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 14,904 an increase of 4,140
Deaths: 125 an increase of 26

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 3,891 an increase of 2,108
Deaths: 1

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 540 an increase of 131
Deaths: 8

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 8,077 an increase of 2,394
Deaths: 422 an increase of 133

Italy
Confirmed: 69,176 an increase of 10,038
Deaths: 6,820 an increase of 1,344

Kathianne

03-24-2020, 02:03 PM

It was thought Italy had peaked, today showed, not yet.

jimnyc

03-24-2020, 02:05 PM

It was thought Italy had peaked, today showed, not yet.

10k new and 1300+ dead. I don't want to be in NY right now but sure as hell don't want to be in Italy either!

se7en

03-24-2020, 02:18 PM

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.html

21 Million Fewer Cellphone Users in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll
The number of Chinese cellphone users dropped by 21 million in the past three months, Beijing authorities announced on March 19. Deaths due to the CCP virus (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-ccp-virus) may have contributed to the high number of account closings.

Cellphones are an indispensable part of life in China (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-china).
“The digitization level is very high in China. People can’t survive without a cellphone,” Tang Jingyuan, a U.S.-based China affairs commentator, told The Epoch Times on March 21. “Dealing with the government for pensions and social security, buying train tickets, shopping … no matter what people want to do, they are required to use cellphones.
“The Chinese regime requires all Chinese to use their cellphones to generate a health code. Only with a green health code are Chinese allowed to move in China now. It’s impossible for a person to cancel his cellphone.”
China introduced (https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-introduces-mandatory-facial-scans-for-phone-users_3162905.html) mandatory facial scans on Dec. 1, 2019, to confirm the identity of the person who registered the phone. As early as Sept. 1, 2010, China required all cellphone users to register phones with their real identification, by which the state can control people’s speech via its large-scale monitoring system.
Furthermore, Chinese people’s bank accounts and social security accounts are bundled with their cellphone plans; apps on Chinese phones check SIM cards against the state’s database to make sure the number belongs to the user.

Beijing first launched (http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2020-03/18/c_1125727318.htm) cellphone-based health codes on March 10. All people in China must install a cellphone app and register their personal health information. Then the app can generate a QR code, which appears in three colors, to classify the user’s health level. Red means the person has an infectious disease, yellow means the person might have one, and green means the person doesn’t.
Beijing claimed that the health codes are intended to prevent the spread of the CCP virus, commonly known as novel coronavirus (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-coronavirus).

21 Million Cellphone Users China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) announced (http://archive.is/vkqpf) on March 19 the number of phone users in each province in February. Compared with the previous announcement, which was released on Dec. 18, 2019, for November 2019 data, both cellphone and landline users dropped dramatically. In the same period the year before, the number of users increased.
The number of cellphone users decreased from 1.600957 billion to 1.579927 billion, a drop of 21.03 million. The number of landline users decreased from 190.83 million to 189.99 million, a drop of 840,000.
In the previous February, the number increased. According to MIIT, (http://archive.is/hgoml) the number of cellphone users increased in February 2019 from 1.5591 billion to 1.5835 billion, which is 24.37 million more. The number of landline users increased from 183.477 million to 190.118 million, which is 6.641 million more.
According to China’s National Bureau of Statistics (http://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2020-01/17/content_5470247.htm), the country’s population at the end of 2019 was 4.67 million larger than in 2018, reaching 1.40005 billion.
The 2020 decrease in landline users may be due to the nationwide quarantine (https://www.theepochtimes.com/more-than-80-chinese-cities-under-quarantine-due-to-coronavirus-as-wuhan-converts-school-dorms-into-isolation-centers_3231532.html) in February, during which small businesses were shut down. But the decrease in cellphone users can’t be explained in this way.
According to the operation data of all three Chinese cellphone carriers, cellphone accounts increased in December 2019 but dropped steeply in 2020.
China Mobile is the largest carrier, holding about 60 percent of the Chinese cellphone market. It reported (http://archive.is/C0bHh) that it gained 3.732 million more accounts in December 2019, but lost 0.862 million in January 2020 and 7.254 million in February 2020.
China Mobile’s performance in the same months in 2019 (http://archive.is/TnTqV) was markedly different; it gained 2.411 million more accounts in January 2019 and 1.091 million more in February 2019.
China Telecom is the second-largest carrier, holding about 21 percent of the market. It gained 1.18 million users in December 2019, but lost (http://archive.is/ZNUA3) 0.43 million users in January 2020 and 5.6 million users in February 2020.
In 2019 (http://archive.is/TnTqV), it gained 4.26 million in January and 2.96 million in February.
China Unicom, which hasn’t yet published the data for February, shares the same experience as the other two telecoms in January 2020 and in early 2019. The company lost (http://archive.is/RBdgq) 1.186 million users in January 2020, but gained 1.962 million users in February 2019 and 2.763 million users in January 2019.
China allows each adult to apply for at most five cellphone numbers. Since Feb. 10, the majority of Chinese students have taken online classes with a cellphone number due to their schools being ordered to stay closed. These students’ accounts are under their parents’ names, which means some parents needed to open a new cellphone account in February.

read more at link

Kathianne

03-24-2020, 02:21 PM

Those numbers do not shock me, I do hope OUR government takes a look and does some analysis.

se7en

03-24-2020, 05:58 PM

I think Trump knows all to well what's going on ,
you can see it in his face and the way he speaks now , The CDC set him up for failure on this ,
Every Death falls in the lap of the CDC and the democrats ,

jimnyc

03-25-2020, 11:04 AM

Not sure why, even though the page says it was last updated at 9:46am today, no number changes for now. Odd.

Kathianne

03-25-2020, 11:28 AM

Just heard that the death numbers in the US rose by 35% since yesterday. :(

jimnyc

03-25-2020, 11:30 AM

Just heard that the death numbers in the US rose by 35% since yesterday. :(

Oh crap. Probably why no update, they don't want to further scare the bejeezus out of everyone!

NightTrain

03-25-2020, 12:29 PM

There's only one reason I can think of, of why China suddenly has millions less cellphone users.

There's been a massive coverup and they've had millions of deaths.

Kathianne

03-25-2020, 12:30 PM

There's only one reason I can think of, of why China suddenly has millions less cellphone users.

There's been a massive coverup and they've had millions of deaths.
THAT is the implication.

NightTrain

03-25-2020, 12:34 PM

THAT is the implication.

If you were running a monumental coverup and hiding millions of deaths, would you allow American reporters running around doing their own investigations?

Or...... would you kick those meddling reporters out?

jimnyc

03-25-2020, 01:54 PM

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-25-2020, 02:06 PM

Rounded off, that's 10.8% of every person infected in Italy is dying.

That's just nightmarish.

Italy has the second oldest population on earth(remember older you are more likely its fatal). And those numbers are increased because many are those abandoned and left in nursing homes to die from the disease. Also other factors there greatly increased the death toll.
New York, millions huddled together using-- mass transit-- another mitigating factor in the higher infection count and higher death count..

Other nations are not showing a 10.8 % death count.. Check if you do not believe..

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By WMCActionNews5.com Staff | March 25, 2020 at 9:24 AM CDT - Updated March 25 at 2:10 PM
SHELBY COUNTY, Tenn. (WMC) - There are now 784 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the state of Tennessee, with 170 of those in Shelby County.
Memphis is in Shelby county. It is on a city wide lock down, I live about 20 miles away in another county-Tipton County but my wife works at the
Baptist hospital within Memphis. As of now there are no cases in her hospital... --Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-25-2020, 02:13 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jackson-browne-tests-positive-coronavirus-011622778.html

Rolling Stone
Jackson Browne Tests Positive for Coronavirus
Angie Martoccio
Rolling StoneMarch 25, 2020, 8:55 AM CDT
Click here to read the full article.

Jackson Browne was suspicious that something was not right when he started feeling ill in recent weeks. “As soon as I had a small cough and a temperature, I tested [for COVID-19],” he says. The Rock Hall of Fame inductee tells Rolling Stone that he has tested positive for the coronavirus and is currently recuperating at his Los Angeles home. “My symptoms are really pretty mild, so I don’t require any kind of medication and certainly not hospitalization or anything like that,” he adds.

The 71-year-old musician isn’t sure where he got it, but he suspected his recent trip to New York for the annual Love Rocks NYC benefit, which also featured Cyndi Lauper, Dave Matthews, Warren Haynes, Susan Tedeschi, and Derek Trucks, may have been the source. “So many people that have it aren’t going to be tested,” he says. “They don’t have symptoms, but they might have it and might be able to pass it on. That’s what younger readers need to understand: They need to take part in the global response to stop the spread. That means not going anywhere, not getting into contact with anybody, not seeing anybody.

Drummond

03-25-2020, 07:06 PM

Finally, stats changes since yesterday:

Total Confirmed
454,398 an increase of 46,913

61,167 US an increase of 11,399

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 17,856 an increase of 2,952
Deaths: 192

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 4,691 an increase of 800

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 669 an increase of 540
Deaths: 11

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 8,264 an increase of 187
Deaths: 435

Italy
Confirmed: 74,386 an increase of 5,210
Deaths: 7,503 an increase of 683

The UK is following the same infection curve as Italy. Our people reckon our statistics will be as bad as Italy's currently are, in around 2-2.5 weeks from now - unless our current lockdown restrictions do a good job of starving the virus.

Russ

03-25-2020, 07:18 PM

There's only one reason I can think of, of why China suddenly has millions less cellphone users.

There's been a massive coverup and they've had millions of deaths.

I was wondering the same thing when I read Se7en's post, and I guess that's what he was implying. China reported only 3281 deaths from coronavirus, but they have 21 million fewer cell phone users? What hasn't China told us?
At least we can look at South Korea and Japan as countries that have already peaked and had a small amount of deaths.

SassyLady

03-26-2020, 06:24 AM

Over 1,000 dead in US

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Confirmed Cases and Deaths by Country, Territory, or ConveyanceThe coronavirus COVID-19 is affecting 198 countries and territories around the world and 1 international conveyance (the Diamond Princess cruise ship harbored in Yokohama, Japan). The day is reset after midnight GMT+0.

Report coronavirus cases (https://www.worldometers.info/report_us/)

Now (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#nav-today)
Yesterday (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#nav-yesterday)

Search:

Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Tot Deaths/
1M pop

China (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/)
81,285
+67
3,287
+6
74,051
3,947
1,235
56
2

Italy (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/)
74,386

7,503

9,362
57,521
3,489
1,230
124

USA (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)
68,581
+370
1,036
+9
428
67,117
1,455
207
3

Spain (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/)
56,188
+6,673
4,089
+442
7,015
45,084
3,166
1,202
87

Germany (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/)
39,502
+2,179
222
+16
3,547
35,733
23
471
3

Iran (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/)
29,406
+2,389
2,234
+157
10,457
16,715

350
27

France (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/)
25,233

1,331

3,900
20,002
2,827
387
20

Switzerland (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/switzerland/)
11,125
+228
165
+12
131
10,829
141
1,285
19

UK (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/)
9,529

465

135
8,929
163
140
7

S. Korea (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/)
9,241
+104
131
+5
4,144
4,966
59
180
3

Netherlands (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/)
6,412

356

3
6,053
582
374
21

Belgium (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belgium/)
6,235
+1,298
220
+42
675
5,340
605
538
19

Austria (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/austria/)
6,001
+413
42
+11
112
5,847
28
666
5

Canada (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/)
3,409

36

185
3,188
1
90
1.0

Norway (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/norway/)
3,191
+107
14

6
3,171
57
589
3

Portugal (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/portugal/)
2,995

43

22
2,930
61
294
4

Australia (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/)
2,799
+123
13
+2
170
2,616
11
110
0.5

Brazil (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/)
2,563
+9
60
+1
6
2,497
18
12
0.3

Sweden (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/)
2,554
+28
64
+2
16
2,474
176
253
6

Israel (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/)
2,495
+126
5

66
2,424
41
288
0.6

Turkey (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/turkey/)
2,433

59

26
2,348
136
29
0.7

Malaysia (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/malaysia/)
2,031
+235
23
+3
199
1,809
45
63
0.7

Denmark (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/denmark/)
1,851
+127
34

1
1,816
87
320
6

Czechia
1,775
+121
6

10
1,759
34

pete311

03-26-2020, 08:17 AM

Now more dead per day than the flu

https://i.redd.it/xn276j1wfyo41.png

jimnyc

03-26-2020, 08:45 AM

Now more dead per day than the flu

Like I said to many, no matter one's thoughts on the level of danger from the virus - it's in ADDITION to the flu. I heard some say "no worse than flu - so its the same 'ol same 'ol. Even at the same rates, that's double. But this thing is 3x worse it seems, and growing of course.

Drummond

03-26-2020, 08:53 AM

Like I said to many, no matter one's thoughts on the level of danger from the virus - it's in ADDITION to the flu. I heard some say "no worse than flu - so its the same 'ol same 'ol. Even at the same rates, that's double. But this thing is 3x worse it seems, and growing of course.

.. and unlike 'ordinary' flu, people can be infected, have no symptoms and no awareness of being ill, yet, still infect others even as that is true.

Whether or not (I say it is, of course) Covid-19 is more pernicious in its effect, its ability to spread 'stealthily' makes it WAY more potentially deadly.

jimnyc

03-26-2020, 09:02 AM

But still....

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The Total Number of Coronavirus Deaths to Date in the World Still Less Than Total Number of Flu Deaths in the US This Flu Season

The governments around the world have shut down the world economy for two months due to the coronavirus. These efforts which may have economic ramifications for years to come are in response to the Wuhan coronavirus which hasn’t yet killed as many people worldwide as the flu killed in America this year.

As we have reported several times now — the Director of the World Health Organization created an international panic when he miscalculated the coronavirus mortality rate at 3.4%.

The controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu.

This egregiously false premise has led to the greatest economic panic in world history.

The Director General of the WHO spoke on March 3, 2020 and shared this related to the coronavirus:

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.

Here is the video of Dr. Ghebreyesus’s remarks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=393&v=-kk-DrTCRAY&feature=emb_logo

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/to-date-the-total-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-to-date-in-the-world-still-less-than-total-number-of-flu-deaths-in-the-us-this-flu-season/

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-26-2020, 01:14 PM

But still....

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The Total Number of Coronavirus Deaths to Date in the World Still Less Than Total Number of Flu Deaths in the US This Flu Season

The governments around the world have shut down the world economy for two months due to the coronavirus. These efforts which may have economic ramifications for years to come are in response to the Wuhan coronavirus which hasn’t yet killed as many people worldwide as the flu killed in America this year.

As we have reported several times now — the Director of the World Health Organization created an international panic when he miscalculated the coronavirus mortality rate at 3.4%.

The controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu.

This egregiously false premise has led to the greatest economic panic in world history.

The Director General of the WHO spoke on March 3, 2020 and shared this related to the coronavirus:

Here is the video of Dr. Ghebreyesus’s remarks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=393&v=-kk-DrTCRAY&feature=emb_logo

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/to-date-the-total-number-of-coronavirus-deaths-to-date-in-the-world-still-less-than-total-number-of-flu-deaths-in-the-us-this-flu-season/

Big question is why the man deliberately gave out false and fearful numbers.
And yes, I believe it was a deliberate act on his part, and ordered by those that control he and the WHO.
As it caused chaos and massive fear worldwide -- and fear is always a monster motivator.
The lie still exists the death rate is not as high as is so often given out my media....
Yes it is an alarming and serious disease but very likely would not have shut entire nations down but for the first great lie told by the WHO..
If they had only cited that its highly contagious instead of saying that and lying about the death rate, we would not be seeing this disastrous domino effect of so many nations shutting down, imho.--- -Tyr

Drummond

03-26-2020, 01:37 PM

Big question is why the man deliberately gave out false and fearful numbers.
And yes, I believe it was a deliberate act on his part, and ordered by those that control he and the WHO.
As it caused chaos and massive fear worldwide -- and fear is always a monster motivator.
The lie still exists the death rate is not as high as is so often given out my media....
Yes it is an alarming and serious disease but very likely would not have shut entire nations down but for the first great lie told by the WHO..
If they had only cited that its highly contagious instead of saying that and lying about the death rate, we would not be seeing this disastrous domino effect of so many nations shutting down, imho.--- -Tyr

The UK's example defies this.

Our Government's original approach was shaped after the WHO's original pronouncements and data. It was to attempt a 'herd immunity' effect, which necessitated NOT applying a nationwide lockdown.

But, because of how this virus has hit us, how it is in particular that the trend of infection is mirroring Italy's, as Italy stood, around 2 weeks ago .. our Government realised that its spread would be uncontrollable unless far more stringent rules were applied.

So it is that we're under a near-total lockdown for a minimum 3 week period.

The fact of the matter is that constantly revised data, updated daily, convinced our Government that they had to exercise far greater controls. It was either that, or risk many thousands of additional deaths.

I do not believe that the rapidly escalating numbers of deaths being reported are lies. This is a dangerous pandemic, and the circumstances of it are such that harsh, draconian social controls are the only real weapon we have against it (unless a vaccine will appear within days ??). It's either that, or, allowing avoidable mass death to occur.

SassyLady

03-26-2020, 02:17 PM

50 more dead in US in last 2 hours. Now at 1,143. Yesterday this time was in low 800s.

Kathianne

03-26-2020, 02:21 PM

50 more dead in US in last 2 hours. Now at 1,143. Yesterday this time was in low 800s.

Yep. Hard choices ahead.

jimnyc

03-26-2020, 03:39 PM

I know with all things equal that everyone is in this together. I think places that are much much lower than the others very well still may see their own increases. I'm not ignoring any part of our nation! But I'm still overly concerned with where I live. Not only did NYC see another large increase, but my county got another 1250+ cases.

I can't do too awfully much but maybe drive around. Today I did a lot more than before. WTF - NO ONE is listening in my county, which is seemingly still hit harder than any other entire state in the nation. Ok, not true, just looked again and now the entire state of NJ has more cases than my county, but that's it. -- anyway, almost every damn store is still open now except for the mom and pop type stores. Marshalls, Microcenter, Best Buy, Mcdonalds, D&D, Staples, damn car wash places... I mean, literally every place that wanted to seemed like they opened. I did see some signs that customers are being limited per time, but still. I thought it was supposed to be essential only, and "all" non-essential closed. NOT the case here where we are hit the hardest. And way too many idiots out there together, as in one place was limiting customers, so it looked like about 40 outside, and all of the idiots were in one big group. No wonder my area is so fucked up. And NO, I only do driving around out of boredom. I don't need to take chances and hit all of these open stores. Unbelievable.

Changes since yesterday:

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Total Confirmed
521,086 an increase of 66,688

79,785 US an increase of 18,618

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 21,873 an increase of 4,017
Deaths: 281 an increase of 89

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 5,944 an increase of 1,253

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 812 an increase of 143
Deaths: 13

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 11,658 an increase of 3,394
Deaths: 578 an increase of 143

Confirmed: 80,589 an increase of 6,203
Deaths: 8,215 an increase of 712

High_Plains_Drifter

03-26-2020, 04:03 PM

Wisconsin, total confirmed: 759, up only 128. FAR less than yesterday. I would LOVE to think we might be leveling off, or even go the other direction.

Milwaukee Co: 393, up 60.

(My Co.)Grant Co: Standing at 1.

Total WI dead: 10, up 3.

FakeNewsSux

03-26-2020, 04:12 PM

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Screen-Shot-2020-03-26-at-10.19.24-AM-998x586.png
The Scientist Whose Doomsday Pandemic Model Predicted Armageddon Just Walked Back The Apocalyptic Predictions (https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/26/the-scientist-whose-doomsday-pandemic-model-predicted-armageddon-just-walked-back-the-apocalyptic-predictions/)
MARCH 26, 2020 By Madeline Osburn (https://thefederalist.com/author/madelineorr/)
British scientist Neil Ferguson ignited the world’s drastic response to the novel Wuhan coronavirus when he published the bombshell report (https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf) predicting 2.2 million Americans and more than half a million Brits would be killed. After both the U.S. and U.K. governments effectively shut down their citizens and economies, Ferguson is walking back his doomsday scenarios.
Ferguson’s report from Imperial College, which White House and other officials took seriously, said that if the U.S. and U.K. did not shut down for 18 months, and isolation measures were not taken, “we would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months.” His “models” showed overflowing hospitals and ICU beds.

“For an uncontrolled epidemic, we predict critical care bed capacity would be exceeded as early as the second week in April, with an eventual peak in ICU or critical care bed demand that is over 30 times greater than the maximum supply in both countries,” the report reads.
Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, reportedly said the administration was particularly focused on the Imperial College report’s conclusion that entire households should stay in isolation for 14 days if any member suffered from COVID-19 symptoms.
But after tens of thousands of restaurants, bars, and businesses closed, Ferguson is now retracting (https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238578-uk-has-enough-intensive-care-units-for-coronavirus-expert-predicts/) his modeling, saying he feels “reasonably confident” our health care system can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in a few weeks. Testifying before the U.K.’s parliamentary select committee on science and technology on Wednesday, Ferguson said he now predicts U.K. deaths from the disease will not exceed 20,000, and could be much lower.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/26/the-scientist-whose-doomsday-pandemic-model-predicted-armageddon-just-walked-back-the-apocalyptic-predictions/?utm_source=whatfinger

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-26-2020, 04:41 PM

The UK's example defies this.

Our Government's original approach was shaped after the WHO's original pronouncements and data. It was to attempt a 'herd immunity' effect, which necessitated NOT applying a nationwide lockdown.

But, because of how this virus has hit us, how it is in particular that the trend of infection is mirroring Italy's, as Italy stood, around 2 weeks ago .. our Government realised that its spread would be uncontrollable unless far more stringent rules were applied.

So it is that we're under a near-total lockdown for a minimum 3 week period.

The fact of the matter is that constantly revised data, updated daily, convinced our Government that they had to exercise far greater controls. It was either that, or risk many thousands of additional deaths.

I do not believe that the rapidly escalating numbers of deaths being reported are lies. This is a dangerous pandemic, and the circumstances of it are such that harsh, draconian social controls are the only real weapon we have against it (unless a vaccine will appear within days ??). It's either that, or, allowing avoidable mass death to occur.

I think that you are omitting considering of factors in your nation, the open borders your nation has and its aging population, plus the mass numbers of connections it has with the rest of Europe. I never stated the current data on death numbers was a lie. I did note primarily that the death rate was not 3.4% across the board and certainly not the 10.4% as has oft been cited by the fear mongers in government that want the most fear they can gin up.
I merely pointed out that it is not as bad as they have played it to be-- at least not yet--but should it mutate to a far greater threat --yes then it would be.
To me it seems if one tries to point out the numbers have been fudged and they have-- that person is soundly vilified.
I love math, always have- as it stands the number of deaths in comparison to say the flu--does not rate the level of fear the governments have deliberately raised up. Until I see it increased and reliably proven I stand with my original assessment on the issue.
AND YES, with my health issues, I am in the group most at risk that has underlying conditions and old age 66.
I am taking sensible precautions but I refuse to panic now. Possibly if it gets worse I may my friend..
Sorry that your nation has got it so bad but the EU open borders policy and its healthcare system shares a lot of blame for that.-Tyr

pete311

03-26-2020, 04:42 PM

US is now #1
https://www.bing.com/covid

High_Plains_Drifter

03-26-2020, 04:47 PM

US is now #1
https://www.bing.com/covid
I saw that coming.

But will we ever REALLY know the TRUTH about how many were infected and have or will die in China? I doubt it. They KILL people that leak out information they don't want out.

High_Plains_Drifter

03-26-2020, 04:48 PM

... and old age 66.
HEY... I'm going to be 65 in July... we're NOT OLD... :slap: ... :laugh:

My 91 year old mother is OLD.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-26-2020, 04:54 PM

HEY... I'm going to be 65 in July... we're NOT OLD... :slap: ... :laugh:

My 91 year old mother is OLD.

Well we sure aren't Spring chickens either my friend!- :laugh:--Tyr

High_Plains_Drifter

03-26-2020, 04:57 PM

Well we sure aren't Spring chickens either my friend!- :laugh:--Tyr
I pretend I am... :laugh:

Then I have a scare like I did the other day, and I'm reminded I'm not 25 anymore... :rolleyes:

FakeNewsSux

03-26-2020, 04:59 PM

I know with all things equal that everyone is in this together. I think places that are much much lower than the others very well still may see their own increases. I'm not ignoring any part of our nation! But I'm still overly concerned with where I live. Not only did NYC see another large increase, but my county got another 1250+ cases.

Don't worry Jim, the rest of us are watching NYC closely:

Fleeing New Yorkers – The Super Spreaders Of COVID-19?As the White House continues to battle (https://www.libertynation.com/trump-declares-war-on-coronavirus-and-invokes-defense-production-act/) the spread of Coronavirus, another issue has arisen. Residents of New York City are fleeing the state to avoid infection. But what if, rather than escaping COVID-19, they simply bring it with them?
Trump Administration Warns Fleeing New Yorkershttps://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/New-York-coronavirus-300x200.jpgWhite House officials are urging people leaving New York City to self-quarantine for 14 days to prevent taking the virus to their destinations. During a task force briefing, Dr. Deborah Birx pointed out that more than 60% of new Coronavirus cases in the United States are occurring in the New York metro area.
“We remain deeply concerned about New York City,” Birx said. “About 56% of all the cases in the United States are coming out of that metro area and 60% of all the new cases are coming out of the metro New York area and 31% of the people succumbing to this disease.”
Birx noted that the people fleeing New York might have already been exposed prior to leaving. If this is the case, they could bring it with them to people in other states, thus making the situation worse – all while still becoming sick.
According to Birx, there is evidence that people leaving the city have spread the virus. She pointed to a number of new cases in Long Island. “That suggests people have left the city, so this will be very critical that those individuals do self-quarantine in their homes over these next 14 days to make sure they don’t pass the virus,” she explained.

https://www.libertynation.com/white-house-warns-fleeing-new-yorkers-may-spread-covid-19/?utm_source=whatfinger

High_Plains_Drifter

03-26-2020, 05:07 PM

Don't worry Jim, the rest of us are watching NYC closely:

Fleeing New Yorkers – The Super Spreaders Of COVID-19?

As the White House continues to battle (https://www.libertynation.com/trump-declares-war-on-coronavirus-and-invokes-defense-production-act/) the spread of Coronavirus, another issue has arisen. Residents of New York City are fleeing the state to avoid infection. But what if, rather than escaping COVID-19, they simply bring it with them?
Trump Administration Warns Fleeing New Yorkers

https://www.libertynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/New-York-coronavirus-300x200.jpgWhite House officials are urging people leaving New York City to self-quarantine for 14 days to prevent taking the virus to their destinations. During a task force briefing, Dr. Deborah Birx pointed out that more than 60% of new Coronavirus cases in the United States are occurring in the New York metro area.
“We remain deeply concerned about New York City,” Birx said. “About 56% of all the cases in the United States are coming out of that metro area and 60% of all the new cases are coming out of the metro New York area and 31% of the people succumbing to this disease.”
Birx noted that the people fleeing New York might have already been exposed prior to leaving. If this is the case, they could bring it with them to people in other states, thus making the situation worse – all while still becoming sick.
According to Birx, there is evidence that people leaving the city have spread the virus. She pointed to a number of new cases in Long Island. “That suggests people have left the city, so this will be very critical that those individuals do self-quarantine in their homes over these next 14 days to make sure they don’t pass the virus,” she explained.

https://www.libertynation.com/white-house-warns-fleeing-new-yorkers-may-spread-covid-19/?utm_source=whatfinger

I hate to say this but, I can't miss this opportunity... so there you have it... all these leftist city slickers, and all the times they've made fun of us HICKS out here in FLY OVER COUNTRY, and how we're all STUPID and BACKWARDS. Well, what the hell are they FLEEING THEIR CITY FOR if it's SO GREAT? You mean now it's NOT SO GREAT, that they have to RUN FOR HILLS out here by all us INBRED, RETARDED, BIBLE READING, GUN CLINGING, TRUMP SUPPORTERS?

Well how about that... NEVER knew all those leftist city slickers would LEAVE THEIR CITY in a time of CRISIS... knock me over with a feather... :rolleyes:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

03-26-2020, 05:31 PM

This needs to be read and considered. -Tyr

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-germany-has-such-a-low-covid-19-death-rate-11964051

Coronavirus: Why Germany has such a low COVID-19 death rate

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Coronavirus: Why Germany has such a low COVID-19 death rate
Germany has had around 200 coronavirus deaths despite having more than 37,000 confirmed cases of the disease.
By Alice Udale-Smith, news reporter and Carmen Aguilar García, data journalist

Thursday 26 March 2020 21:02, UK
COVID-19CORONAVIRUSGERMANY
Just 0.6% of Germany's confirmed coronavirus cases have ended up being fatal
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Just 0.6% of Germany's confirmed coronavirus cases have ended up being fatal

Why you can trust Sky News
When comparing how countries around the world are coping with COVID-19, one country immediately stands out.

In Germany, just 0.6% of their confirmed coronavirus cases have so far ended up being fatal - the lowest figure amongst any of the most affected countries.

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The next best case fatality rate is 1.4%, which can be found in the United States, Switzerland, Portugal and South Korea, while in some countries the death rate is substantially higher.

In Italy, 10.1% of confirmed cases have ended up proving fatal.

The answer to why Germany's figure is so much better partly lies in the way the case fatality rate is calculated.

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The figure is produced by dividing the number of deaths by the total number of confirmed cases.

This means if a country only tests seriously ill patients they will have a higher case fatality rate, as a higher proportion of these patients will die.

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Here is another link on Germany' death count being so low. -Tyr

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-why-germanys-death-toll-is-so-low-125400840.html

Coronavirus: Why Germany’s death toll is so low

Jill Petzinger
Jill Petzinger, Germany Correspondent, Yahoo Finance UK
Yahoo Finance UKMarch 26, 2020
Christian Drosten, director of the Institute of Virology at Berlin's Charite hospital, poses after a press conference in Berlin on March 26, 2020, to comment the spread of the novel coronavirus in the country. (Photo by Michael Kappeler / POOL / AFP) (Photo by MICHAEL KAPPELER/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)
Christian Drosten, director of the Institute of Virology at Charite hospital, in Berlin, Germany. (Michael Kappeler/AFP via Getty Images)
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Germany is the fifth most-affected country in the world, in terms of confirmed cases of coronavirus. As of Thursday 26 March, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Europe’s largest economy stood at 39,502, according to Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Research Center.

Yet despite tens of thousands of cases, Germany so far has reported 222 deaths from the virus, dramatically lower that the more than 7,500 in Italy and around 4,000 in Spain. This low fatality rate of 0.56% has attracted global attention and debate.

Christian Drosten, Institute for Virology director at Berlin’s Charité hospital, said that the low death toll from coronavirus is mainly down to extensive testing.

"The reason why we have so few deaths compared to the number of infected people is because we do a lot of laboratory diagnostics," Drosten said at a press conference on Thursday. In Germany, over half a million coronavirus tests are currently being carried out every week.

Drosten was speaking at the launch of a new research network, a “national taskforce” that will pool the expertise of university clinics and scientists to collect data and speed research into understanding and tackling the spread of the virus. The government will back the network with €150m (£137m, $162m).

Making direct comparisons between national mortality rates can be misleading, not just because of recording lags and different methodologies on reporting cases and deaths, but also because of the extent of testing. The more aggressively a country tests for coronavirus, the more cases of mild infections will be found and recorded in the statistics, which pushes the fatality percentage down.

SassyLady

03-27-2020, 03:15 AM

US is now #1
https://www.bing.com/covid
Because we are providing more testing.

jimnyc

03-27-2020, 02:24 PM

Since yesterday:

Total Confirmed
576,859 an increase of 55,573

94,238 US an increase of 14,453

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 25,573 an increase of 3,700
Deaths: 365 an increase of 84

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 7,187 an increase of 1,243

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 1,230 an increase of 418
Deaths: 21 an increase of 8

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 14,543 an increase of 2,885
Deaths: 759 an increase of 181

Italy
Confirmed: 86,498 an increase of 12,112
Deaths: 9,134 an increase of 1,631

Spain
Confirmed: 64,059
Deaths: 4,934

Germany
Confirmed: 49,344
Deaths: 304

Kathianne

03-27-2020, 02:26 PM

Kathianne

03-27-2020, 03:57 PM

Too soon to say the 'stay at home' is working, but also to soon to say it's long enough?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

March 24 (GMT)

11075 new cases and 225 new deaths in the United States (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/).

March 25 (GMT)

13355 new cases and 247 new deaths in the United States (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/). Total cases top 60,000

March 26 (GMT)

17224 new cases and 268 new deaths in the United States (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

March 27 (GMT)

https://www.worldometers.info/images/alert.png 14957 new cases and 248 new deaths in the United States (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

High_Plains_Drifter

03-27-2020, 04:47 PM

Well... WI isn't looking all that great right now. Doesn't appear to be any slowing down, and there's 2 cases now today in Richland Co north of me where there was 0 yesterday...

https://i.ibb.co/8DRHXtS/wi.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/DCpgJ5Z/wi2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Kathianne

03-27-2020, 08:35 PM

Just yesterday and today, the top 10 states. The increases are frightening.

Today

USA
State
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Active
Cases
Source

New York
46,262
+7,285
606
+140
43,611
[source (http://www2.erie.gov/health/index.php?q=press/erie-county-department-health-covid-19-update-friday-evening)] [source (https://www.lohud.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/03/27/coronavirus-rockland-reports-8th-death-cases-continue-dramatic-rise/2924230001/)] [source (https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary.pdf)] [source (https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases)] [source (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/how-many-in-tri-state-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-here-are-latest-cases-by-the-numbers/2317721/)] [source (https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1243561528466399233)]

New Jersey
8,825
+1,949
108
+27
8,717
[source (https://twitter.com/CBSNewYork/status/1243600534998781959)] [source (https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/new-jersey-coronavirus-cases-surge-to-4402-with-62-deaths-officials-announce-736-new-cases.html)] [source (https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/topics/covid2019_dashboard.shtml)]

California
4,791
+776
94
+12
4,679
[source (https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/)] [source (https://www.sccgov.org/sites/phd/DiseaseInformation/novel-coronavirus/Pages/home.aspx)] [source (https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/2019-nCoV/status.html)] [source (http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/locations.htm)] [source (https://occovid19.ochealthinfo.com/coronavirus-in-oc)] [source (https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/ncov2019.aspx)]

Washington
3,700
+493
175
+28
3,401
[source (https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus)] [source (https://www.snohd.org/499/COVID-19-Case-Count-Info)] [source (https://www.clark.wa.gov/public-health)]

Michigan
3,657
+801
92
+32
3,560
[source (https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163-520743--,00.html)] [source (https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/03/23/michigan-health-chief-confirms-15-deaths-due-to-covid-19/)] [source (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/22/man-dies-coronavirus-washtenaw-county-michigan-9-deaths/2893984001/)]

Massachusetts
3,240
+823
35
+10
3,204
[source (https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-march-27-2020/download)] [source (https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-cases-quarantine-and-monitoring)]

Florida
3,198
+714
46
+17
3,152
[source (https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86)] [source (https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/)]

Illinois
3,026
+488
34
+8
2,990
[source (https://www2.illinois.gov/sites/coronavirus/Pages/default.aspx)]

Louisiana
2,746
+441
119
+36
2,627
[source (http://ldh.la.gov/Coronavirus/)] [source (https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_e0b5c39e-6d17-11ea-b28c-53f1e44e6e14.html)]

Pennsylvania
2,218
+531
22
+6
2,196

Yesterday:

New York
38,977
+6,011
466
+100
36,994

New Jersey
6,876
+2,474
81
+19
6,795

California
4,015
+1,017
82
+17
3,921

Washington
3,207
+619
147
+15
2,936

Michigan
2,856
+561
60
+17
2,791

Illinois
2,538
+673
26
+7
2,510

Florida
2,484
+507
29
+6
2,455

Massachusetts
2,417
+579
25
+10
2,391

Louisiana
2,305
+510
83
+18
2,222

Pennsylvania
1,687
+560
16
+5
1,671

High_Plains_Drifter

03-27-2020, 08:58 PM

Where the hell is the slow down? ... :terror:

Kathianne

03-27-2020, 09:18 PM

Where the hell is the slow down? ... :terror:

I keep telling myself, 'Perspective, keep perspective...' There's 300M people in the US. While this virus is not 'just the flu,' with more testing it's looking like it IS more than the flu for death stats, it's coming down with additional information.

Most people have mild symptoms-less serious than to call a doctor or no symptoms. Of those feeling poorly enough to seek help, most are told to stay home and self-care, which lasts longer than the more familiar flu. In other words, it sucks but most are taking Tylenol, sleeping, and keeping hydrated.

So, perspective. Most of us won't even know if we have it or not. If we do, good. We'll have antibodies to help until there's a vaccine. OTOH, it seems that the more exposure one has to the virus, the worse the outcome. The levels of doctors, nurses, paramedics, etc., getting this are high.

High_Plains_Drifter

03-27-2020, 09:22 PM

I keep telling myself, 'Perspective, keep perspective...' There's 300M people in the US. While this virus is not 'just the flu,' with more testing it's looking like it IS more than the flu for death stats, it's coming down with additional information.

Most people have mild symptoms-less serious than to call a doctor or no symptoms. Of those feeling poorly enough to seek help, most are told to stay home and self-care, which lasts longer than the more familiar flu. In other words, it sucks but most are taking Tylenol, sleeping, and keeping hydrated.

So, perspective. Most of us won't even know if we have it or not. If we do, good. We'll have antibodies to help until there's a vaccine. OTOH, it seems that the more exposure one has to the virus, the worse the outcome. The levels of doctors, nurses, paramedics, etc., getting this are high.
I'm hoping that the constant increase in the number of infected is solely due to simply testing and finding them, but they haven't been out spreading it since the shelter in place... HOPING.

Kathianne

03-27-2020, 09:29 PM

Here's some more data that may make others feel better, it does me. Note: it doesn't even mention that US and Germany both have extremely good docs/hospitals and very tested meds in general than other countries. That we are going out on a limb without the long FDA protocols show how seriously the government is fighting this:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-numbers/

What the Media Isn't Telling You About the United States' Coronavirus Case Numbers
BY MATT MARGOLIS MARCH 27, 2020CHAT COMMENTS

When President Trump said this week that the United States had done more testing than South Korea, USA Today was quick to fact-check his claim by pointing out, "The United States population is more than six times the size of South Korea’s. On a per-capita basis, South Korea is testing far more of its citizens than the U.S." In this case, the media attempted to use a per capita comparison against Trump. CNN and MSNBC each made similar fact-checks.

On Thursday, the New York Times made a big fuss over the fact that more than 81,321 Americans have been infected with the coronavirus, which is "more cases than China, Italy or any other country has seen."

According to their report, the United States, following "a series of missteps," is now "the epicenter of the pandemic."

But, is it really?

China's confirmed cases topped out at around 80,000, but, as PJM's Victoria Taft noted, China reportedly stopped conducting tests in order to show the world they've contained the spread of the virus. So, comparing any country to China at this point is useless.

In a visual presentation titled "Where the U.S. Stands Now on Coronavirus Testing" the New York Times even used whole numbers for confirmed cases in one slide, and then in the next slide used per capita numbers for testing, in order to paint the United States in the worst light.

SLIDE 1: This week, the number of coronavirus tests in the United States surpassed those in South Korea and Italy — two countries that had been testing more aggressively.

SLIDE 2: But the United States, which has the most known coronavirus cases in the world, continues to lag in tests per capita, according to an analysis of estimates from the COVID Tracking Project. Both South Korea and Italy have much smaller populations than the U.S.

So, why weren't the case numbers adjusted to show them on a per capita basis, the same way testing was?

Well, let's take a look and see why.

Here are the top six countries by confirmed cases (based on the case numbers from the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University as of 2:30 pm ET March 27) in descending order:

USA (94,238)
Italy (86,498)
Spain (64,059)
Germany (49,344)
Iran (32,332)
France (29,593)

Now, here are the top six countries by confirmed cases per million people (based on population numbers from the CIA World Fact Book) in descending order:

Italy (1386.13)
Spain (1280.78)
Germany (615.57)
France (436.17)
Iran (380.72)
USA (283.30)

Well, isn't that interesting? The United States' confirmed cases per capita are the lowest of the top six countries affected by the virus. Now, there are some who would argue that the United States testing lags behind that of other countries. If we want to assume that there is a discrepancy in testing between countries and that selection bias in testing undercounts the infection rate, then the number of coronavirus deaths is a more accurate way of measuring the impact of the pandemic in each country. So, let's look at total confirmed deaths in descending order.

Italy (9,134)
Spain (4,934)
Iran (2,378)
France (1,698)
USA (1,438)
Germany (304)

Germany looks pretty good compared to everyone else, doesn't it? But, let's look at confirmed deaths per million people in descending order, to see how that changes things:

Italy (146.37)
Spain (98.65)
Iran (28.00)
France (25.03)
USA (4.32)
Germany (3.79)

Interesting indeed! Germany and the United States have significantly better coronavirus death rates per capita than Italy, Spain, Iran and France. A lot better. This is why the media avoids per capita measurements for confirmed cases, but conveniently remembered when it wanted to fact-check Trump's testing numbers.

The media wants you to believe that the coronavirus in the United States is spiraling out of control the way it did in Italy. Fact check: it isn't.

Note: You can view the data used for this post here. This post has been updated with new information.

jimnyc

03-30-2020, 09:31 AM

A few days behind, and now caught up - BUT - today's stats are not there yet. I'm not putting differences today as they will seem skewered as I missed a day in there.

--

3-30-2020

Total Confirmed
741,030

143,532 US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 33,768
Deaths: 776

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 8,519
Deaths: 10

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 2,147
Deaths: 37

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 19,522
Deaths: 1,228

Italy
Confirmed: 97,689
Deaths: 10,779

Spain
Confirmed: 85,195
Deaths: 7,340

Germany
Confirmed: 63,929
Deaths: 560

High_Plains_Drifter

03-30-2020, 11:45 AM

No new stats from today yet, but it looks like WI could be flattening it's curve also. I hope so. I'm hoping it's just down to identifying the last of those infected, and they haven't been out spreading it. In any case, we have a way to go yet, it certainly isn't over...

https://i.ibb.co/qCVMHJw/wi3.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZS76Q2C)

https://i.ibb.co/tbBtzvP/wi4.jpg (https://ibb.co/XzXgDKk)

Abbey Marie

03-30-2020, 12:13 PM

Delaware somewhat- current stats. My county is New Castle.

12474

It has been reported that 3 New Yorkers travelled all the way to Delaware to be treated in our best local hospital. I have a brother and lots of relatives in New York City, and Jim is of course in Westchester, so I have mixed emotions. I understand why someone would want to do this, but is it the right thing to do? (We are a tiny state and have limited resources for our own sick, and we are said to still be approximately 3 weeks from our peak of the virus).

The Governor has issued an order that anyone who comes here must self-quarantine for 14 days. That seems like a joke to me. Unenforceable; plus those coming to a hospital are far from self-quarantining. No word on how many come here from adjoining state Pennsylvania.

What do you all think?

jimnyc

03-30-2020, 01:25 PM

It has been reported that 3 New Yorkers travelled all the way to Delaware to be treated in our best local hospital. I have a brother and lots of relatives in New York City, and Jim is of course in Westchester, so I have mixed emotions. I understand why someone would want to do this, but is it the right thing to do? (We are a tiny state and have limited resources for our own sick, and we are said to still be approximately 3 weeks from our peak of the virus).

The Governor has issued an order that anyone who comes here must self-quarantine for 14 days. That seems like a joke to me. Unenforceable; plus those coming to a hospital are far from self-quarantining. No word on how many come here from adjoining state Pennsylvania.

What do you all think?

I am stating this from someone in New York amidst all of this - I don't think folks should be going to other states. Everyone should be staying put for now. Any traveling, any vacations and any interaction with others is a potential passing. I guess I can have it right now but only pass it. So I respect that and will ride it out. I pray I don't need a hospital as I know they will be overwhelmed. But going to other hospitals out of state shouldn't be happening. Not unless directed to do so - and maybe even an ambulance or some other hospital accommodated travel, like life flight. But I highly doubt they do any of this. They are making all kinds of makeshift hospitals and what not, and folks need to be going to such places. I see how bad the hospitals look and I hope I don't need one. But if I have it, I have it, and I need help, a local is just as good and it's not like I'm gonna catch it - I would have have it already before ever going to one.

So no, I don't agree with those folks. We don't know everything and who the hell knows who has what and is passing what. I wouldn't even care if they locked down out of state travel. Just let the otherwise healthy at least drive within the state and still be able to function a little as far as getting medications and groceries. I have protection and I take all precautions. So yeah, I say lock 'em down and don't let them out - as folks are lying and I see it with my own eyes! Anyone can easily go over the border and just ignore any quarantine as they "feel well" - but they may still pass it.

High_Plains_Drifter

03-30-2020, 03:49 PM

So infected cases do seem to be on the downward trend here in Wisco... that is GOOD NEWS... now if it just CONTINUES that way... still only ONE in my county, but I would like to know WHERE. They don't have to give out physical addresses or names, just the TOWN. I think people have a RIGHT TO KNOW that.

https://i.ibb.co/RYBkj09/wi5.jpg (https://ibb.co/pbRBhzx)

https://i.ibb.co/By0gxCK/wi6.jpg (https://ibb.co/jynL2rZ)

jimnyc

03-31-2020, 12:31 PM

Here are today's numbers and some changes. I know they will change in a few hours as it seems like they update many different times of day.

Italy still not slowing down. UK hit hard in the past 24.

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3-31-2020

Total Confirmed
823,479 an increase of 82,499

175,067 US an increase of 31,535

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 38,087 an increase of 4,319
Deaths: 914

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 9,326 an increase of 807
Deaths: 10

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 2,505 an increase of 358
Deaths: 44

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 25,150 an increase of an increase of 5,628
Deaths: 1,789 an increase of 561

Italy
Confirmed: 105,792 an increase of 8,103
Deaths: 12,428 an increase of 1,649

Spain
Confirmed: 94,417 an increase of 9,222
Deaths: 8,269 an increase of 929

Germany
Confirmed: 68,180 an increase of 4,251
Deaths: 682

Kathianne

04-01-2020, 02:20 AM

US deaths 3/31 over 4k. Up nearly 1k from 3/30. :(

pete311

04-01-2020, 07:56 AM

Not worried at all. Trump has it under control. Look at his comments. All good!

Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” — Trump in a CNBC interview (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trump-on-coronavirus-from-china-we-have-it-totally-under-control.html).
Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” — Trump in a speech (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/30/trump-close-cooperation-china-coronavirus-109701) in Michigan.
Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” — Trump at the White House (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-white-house-business-session-nations-governors/). (See our item “Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April? (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/will-the-new-coronavirus-go-away-in-april/)“)
Feb. 14: “There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm — historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner.” — Trump in speaking (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-national-border-patrol-council-members/) to National Border Patrol Council members.
Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters (https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-press-gaggle-marine-one-departure-february-23-2020).
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1232058127740174339).
Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” — Trump at a White House briefing (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/).
Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/).
Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” — Trump at a press conference (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/), when asked if “U.S. schools should be preparing for a coronavirus spreading.”
Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump at a White House meeting (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-meeting-african-american-leaders/) with African American leaders.
Feb. 29: “And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.” — Trump in a speech (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-2020-conservative-political-action-conference-national-harbor-md/) at the CPAC conference outside Washington, D.C.
March 4: “[W]e have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. … We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don’t add that to the numbers, we’re talking about very small numbers in the United States.” — Trump at a White House meeting (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-coronavirus-briefing-airline-ceos/) with airline CEOs.
March 4: “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number.” — Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization. (See our item “Trump and the Coronavirus Death Rate (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trump-and-the-coronavirus-death-rate/).”)
March 7: “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.” — Trump (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/08/trump-response-coronavirus-washington-dc/4994189002/), when asked by reporters if he was concerned about the arrival of the coronavirus in the Washington, D.C., area.
March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” — Trump in a tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761).
March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-meeting-republican-senators-2/?utm_source=link&utm_medium=header) with Republican senators.

jimnyc

04-01-2020, 08:38 AM

I hope no one takes the trolling bait and moves right along. Take note of the ONE member who continues the trolling through this epidemic while others seem to be more concerned for one another.

jimnyc

04-01-2020, 08:47 AM

We have a leader out there daily trying to help. He's trying to give off confidence and that they have things under control. If it were the opposite Americans would be going crazy. That's what a leader does. Lying isn't acceptable but there's not that but confidence. Too much of it and too quickly.

But I'll take this man and his leadership and his efforts out there trying - along with his conferences and his lip - over ANY democrat in existence, hands down. Different beliefs of what was going to happen, and changing and expanding. But efforts to help and cries for help have been met with all available abilities and supplies thus far.

And then you have a special few, who will brag about bringing in money still with 2 jobs, while sitting back and condemning the efforts of others.

Think about that folks.

High_Plains_Drifter

04-01-2020, 09:24 AM

High_Plains_Drifter

04-01-2020, 09:50 AM

Looks like I spoke too soon the other day saying WI appeared to be slowing down, well, it was, for a couple days by a few, but then yesterday and we're right back going up. It is a rather linear amount of people being discovered as infected though, and like I say, I hope it's people that haven't been spreading it and it WILL run it's course. We HAVE to see a turn around with all this self isolation, although I've been hearing on the local news here that they're tracking cell phones to see if people are practicing social distancing and then giving the state a grade, at least they are here, and WI gets a "C."

Two cases now in my county, and the county to my north, still holding at three in the county to my east...

https://i.ibb.co/2WZGKqG/wi8.jpg (https://ibb.co/YP0Hj2H)

https://i.ibb.co/bj0crmM/wi9.jpg (https://ibb.co/209Gjh1)

pete311

04-01-2020, 10:25 AM

High_Plains_Drifter

04-01-2020, 10:31 AM

You didn't read his quotes. They are not about confidence, they were dangerous straight up lies.
Is that why he's getting a 60% approval rating, by EVERYONE?

Pete, nit picking and playing these games is being done by a very small amount of people, LIKE YOU, that just eat, sleep and breath HATE for this president. Thankfully the vast majority of Americans don't want to hear you people's CRAP right now. Hopefully they won't want to hear it after this pandemic either, and deliver an ass kicking to the democrat party the likes of which we've never seen before in November. You people really have taken partisan politics to a new rabid, unhinged, apoplectic level that no one has ever witnessed before, and it is truly PATHETIC and DISGUSTING, ESPECIALLY in this time of national crisis when we should all be pulling for each other TOGETHER as one nation, you people are STILL playing your shitty leftist games, even though some of the most DANGEROUS crap has ALL come from DEMOCRATS...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=WslBRY9B-n4&feature=emb_logo

jimnyc

04-01-2020, 12:57 PM

You didn't read his quotes. They are not about confidence, they were dangerous straight up lies.

Sure pete, like when he said the virus was a hoax, and never said that - which you reported here of course. You stretch everything you read and believe the MSM even though they have been busted lying endlessly since Trump has been in office.

You're like CNN and like Trump said and why no one wants to listen to you and considers you a troll. Why not out there making money and taking chances?

We're not centered on your irrational hatred right now pete. Most of us have been bypassing the usual back and forth hatred and moved into a caring mode of sorts, sharing information from all over the world, and wishing everyone well no matter their damn politics. I've seen people once again helping one another, and none talking about politics and none giving a shit what the other supports.

But I do take note of the same 'ol same 'ol hatred non stop from the folks at CNN and MSNBC, and of course some folks showing their deep inside true colors during times like this in America. And some others showing and doing some amazing things to help one another and/or support one another. I think I know which camp you fall in Pete. But I wish you nothing but staying away from this shit and avoiding it at all costs.

I'll take note of all these people, and remember them well when America is on the road to recovery. Same 'ol Same ol before, during and after.

I have a lot to say about Biden and Obama right now about actions and words from them, and reported I believe one article I spoke of. I've ignored the rest for now mostly. But I make a mental note of such folks, not forgotten. Some seem to have this burning desire inside to come out with their true colors when things aren't going well.

jimnyc

04-01-2020, 12:58 PM

You didn't read his quotes. They are not about confidence, they were dangerous straight up lies.

And while the individuals carried links, you never provided a PROPER link to where you got the list from.

jimnyc

04-01-2020, 01:51 PM

March 4: “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number.” — Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization. (See our item “Trump and the Coronavirus Death Rate (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trump-and-the-coronavirus-death-rate/).”)

March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” — Trump in a tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761).

Not dismissing anything else, just prompted by these 2.

The first he was outright correct about, so you can eliminate that one quickly! That number WAS false and stands at like .66% or so.

The second part is partly correct as well. Thus far the numbers aren't adding up remotely close to the flu. I think eventually it surpasses it, since it has a higher death rate, but not by much. But I disagreed with the earlier assessment of nothing shutting down at all or 'as usual'.

Guess ya did just grab a list from CNN or wherever that hasn't bothered to update everything, or tell the full truth about everything. Like him stating the virus was a hoax, which you reported, which again wasn't the truth AND was SO easily verifiable. But don't let that kinda stuff get in the way of good lists!

Acosta asked the same crap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlI8r2_0fXs

High_Plains_Drifter

04-02-2020, 07:47 AM

The virus saw it's single biggest gain in numbers yesterday here in WI... we're going in the wrong direction...

https://i.ibb.co/8n3QCv0/cor1.jpg (https://ibb.co/MyTJvws)

https://i.ibb.co/gwD0byQ/cor2.jpg (https://ibb.co/Dk7BP4m)

Although we do have a far greater number of people that have tested NEGATIVE: 18,819... and so far only 24 deaths.

Still holding at only 2 infected in my county, and 116 tested negative.

jimnyc

04-02-2020, 08:38 AM

High_Plains_Drifter

04-02-2020, 09:03 AM

Today's numbers, quite early so kinda still yesterday's numbers:

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 47,439
Deaths: 1,374
According to the above stats, given there's 8.5M people in NYC, then 1 in every 179 people has tested positive... HOLY FUCK.

jimnyc

04-02-2020, 03:28 PM

Today's numbers, quite early so kinda still yesterday's numbers:

4-2-2020

Total Confirmed
956,588

216,722 US

84,046 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 47,439
Deaths: 1,374

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 10,683
Deaths: 25

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 3,518
Deaths: 66

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 29,474
Deaths: 2,352

Italy
Confirmed: 110,574
Deaths: 13,155

Spain
Confirmed: 110,238
Deaths: 10,003

Germany
Confirmed: 79,465
Deaths: 959

As I thought, more complete numbers for today:

4-2-20

Total Confirmed
1,002,159 an increase of 96,880

236,339 US an increase of 37,247

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 48,462 an increase of 5,343
Deaths: 1,397 an increase of 301

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 10,683 an increase of 716
Deaths: 25 (This number is odd considering our county executive reported 64 deaths)

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 3,528 an increase of 491
Deaths: 66

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 33,718 an increase of 4,244
Deaths: 2,921 an increase of 569

Italy
Confirmed: 115,242 an increase of 9,450
Deaths: 13,915 an increase of 1,487

Spain
Confirmed: 110,238 an increase of 8,102
Deaths: 10,096 an increase of 1,043

Germany
Confirmed: 84,600 an increase of 10,092
Deaths: 1,097 an increase of 276

jimnyc

04-02-2020, 03:35 PM

According to the above stats, given there's 8.5M people in NYC, then 1 in every 179 people has tested positive... HOLY FUCK.

Yeps. NYC is the worst of all. All told the entire state has 92,381 cases. Nassau county going out onto Long Island has 10,000 cases. Then a little further out in Suffolk county on Long Island, another 7,200 cases. We're over 10,000 in my lower westchester county. Northern NY still has a bunch of cases to worry about, but it's us in Westchester and LI hit hard, and NYC getting trounced. Hell, everyone lives right on top of one another and a billion 'common' areas and laundry shared... and then when it was first starting, think about companies that have buildings with thousands of employees, endless conferences and meetings... And hell, it's NYC, and I'll say it, lots and lots of folks that simply don't care for themselves and couldn't give 2 shits about others, and either doing unsavory crap, or just their stupidity out there spreading things.

High_Plains_Drifter

04-02-2020, 03:45 PM

Wisconsin on the steady incline, no drop off in sight... son of a bitch this is getting old...

https://i.ibb.co/cFpVKzr/cor3.jpg (https://ibb.co/MVjQyqC)

https://i.ibb.co/4m7vnQN/cor4.jpg (https://ibb.co/znr9Tkf)

Black Diamond

04-02-2020, 03:51 PM

I am worried about the next 2 weeks. Deaths in America could be in the 6 figures per yesterdays briefing.

jimnyc

04-03-2020, 04:47 PM

Here is the latest from John's Hopkins, but unfortunately I know these numbers are still not up to date. But I'll still update this thread with what they provide.

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4-3-2020

Total Confirmed
1,088,878 an increase of 86,719

270,473 US an increase of 34,134

102,964 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 57,159 an increase of 8,697
Deaths: 1,584 an increase of 187

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 12,351 an increase of 1,668
Deaths: 67

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 4,071 an increase of 543
Deaths: 78

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 38,168 an increase of 4,450
Deaths: 3,605 an increase of 684

Italy
Confirmed: 119,827 an increase of 4,585
Deaths: 14,681 an increase of 766

Spain
Confirmed: 117,710 an increase of 7,472
Deaths: 10,935 an increase of 839

Germany
Confirmed: 91,159 an increase of 6,559
Deaths: 1,275 an increase of 178

High_Plains_Drifter

04-03-2020, 05:00 PM

Yeah I'm starting to wonder, when in the hell does this thing SLOW DOWN? So far in WI, it's just UP, UP, UP at about the same pace every day. If anything, it's gotten WORSE in the last 3 days. So much for the "SAFER AT HOME" lockdown.

https://i.ibb.co/SsZ9bmc/COR1.jpg (https://ibb.co/2npfxMS)

https://i.ibb.co/rbZzF2W/COR2.jpg (https://ibb.co/28jCW3b)

Still only 2 in my county, 2 in the county north of me, and 3 in the county east of me, and HOLDING. I don't mention a county to the west of me because there isn't one. It's the Mississippi River.

Kathianne

04-03-2020, 05:41 PM

Very depressing. Reminds me of a video I saw on Twitter, where a son told how his parents died within 6 minutes of each other. Virtual funeral, the hospital put the parents together after removing life support, but the loved ones couldn't enter:

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/04/03/regulators-authorize-new-york-city-crematoriums-operate-24-7-cope-number-dead/

Regulators Authorize New York City Crematoriums To Operate 24/7 To Cope With The Number Of Dead ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 6:01 pm on April 3, 2020

One month ago today, the story we were chattering about was whether Joe Biden would ride the momentum from his big win in South Carolina to a series of upsets on Super Tuesday.

One month later, I’m reading about crematorium operators in NYC asking families not to choose wooden caskets for their loved ones because there’s a backlog of corpses and wood takes too long to burn.

Choose cardboard, they say. It really moves the process along.

One month.

New York City crematories are so overwhelmed with the death toll from coronavirus cases that regulators are letting them operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week…

The deaths are straining services that cater to grieving families and the dead. Federal and local agencies have dispatched about 130 refrigerated trucks to serve as temporary morgues for hospitals around the state…

All Souls Crematory, at St. Michael’s Cemetery in Queens, now schedules up to 24 cremations a day, compared with about eight a day just a couple of weeks ago…

While burial requests have risen, too, some funeral and cemetery officials say there has been a disproportionate increase in cremation requests. Cremation makes sense for some people at a time when funeral homes and cemeteries are strictly limiting wakes and burials and when some people can’t attend ceremonies because they have an underlying medical condition or are in quarantine, they say.

Even 24/7 operation isn’t enough to cope. The furnaces can’t run constantly or they’ll break down. Some bodies are being sent to Westchester to handle the demand, with one crematorium there processing 38 bodies a day this week instead of its usual 12.

I wish I could say that New York State is already at the peak of daily deaths it expects. It isn’t, per the IHME projections. That’s still seven days away:

https://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/i.jpg
Note the number of deaths that were projected for yesterday, April 2. The actual number of COVID-19 deaths statewide per Andrew Cuomo was 562 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-coronavirus-cases-post-largest-ever-daily-increase-11585908325?mod=e2tw). The IHME model, which expects more than 93,000 American deaths in the next four months, is missing low on the death toll. Which is just what many experts assumed (https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/04/03/experts-wonder-white-house-getting-estimate-240000-deaths/).

...

High_Plains_Drifter

04-04-2020, 04:52 PM

I'll tell ya... there is nothing encouraging about watching the same numbers EVERY DAY with ZERO SLOW DOWN in sight. It's as if all our SAFER AT HOME and SOCIAL DISTANCING and MASKS and BUSINESSES CLOSED DOWN are all for NOTHING. I mean, when in the HELL is this thing supposed to TURN AROUND? I for one am starting to freakin' wonder...

https://i.ibb.co/x3RTS5G/cov1.jpg (https://ibb.co/V3P4WBD)

https://i.ibb.co/4pLSL2n/cov2.jpg (https://ibb.co/njy1yBN)

There now TWO cases in my county, and THREE in the county north of me, but still holding at three in the county to the east. No deaths in any of them.

jimnyc

04-06-2020, 06:39 PM

So been a few days, so changes are screwy. Yesterday at this time the numbers had not changed in some areas, so I gave up part way through due to lack of updates. So here are some since yesterday and some since 2 days ago.

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4-6-2020

Total Confirmed
1,341,907 an increase of 81,803

364,723 US an increase of 33,572

131,569 confirmed an increase of 9,392
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 72,181 an increase of 8,875
Deaths: 3,485 an increase of 861

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 14,294 an increase of 1,213
Deaths: 197

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 5,955 an increase of 651
Deaths: 132

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 51,608 an increase of 9,705
Deaths: 5,373 an increase of 1,060

Italy
Confirmed: 132,547 an increase of 7,915
Deaths: 16,523 an increase of 1,161

Spain
Confirmed: 136,675 an increase of 11,939
Deaths: 13,341 an increase of 1,597

Germany
Confirmed: 102,453 an increase of 10,303
Deaths: 1,735 an increase of 405

High_Plains_Drifter

04-06-2020, 07:19 PM

Listening to Tucker Carlson right now, and there's good news of flattening of curves overseas as well as in NYC.

Here in Wisconsin, no such luck. We're still seeing new cases at the same rate. No slowing down what so ever...

https://i.ibb.co/BsHsVry/COV4.jpg (https://ibb.co/88n8Ddr)

https://i.ibb.co/NmYfXZr/COV5.jpg (https://ibb.co/CM04qh6)

3 cases now here in my county, up 1, still holding at 3 in the county to the east, still holding at 3 in the county to the north, and now 2 cases where there had been none in the county to our NW. 0 deaths in any.

278 cases in Dane county where my younger sister and elderly Mom are at with 9 deaths.

Milwaukee county still the epicenter of the virus in WI.

jimnyc

04-07-2020, 04:48 PM

I know we have more cases than this shows, and another 100 deaths or so higher. So much of this lags at times, and different places at times.

4-7-2020

Total Confirmed
1,412,103

386,800 US

138,457 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 76,876
Deaths: 4,009

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 14,294
Deaths: 211

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 6,377
Deaths: 147

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 55,242
Deaths: 6,159

Italy
Confirmed: 135,586
Deaths: 17,127

Spain
Confirmed: 140,511
Deaths: 13,897

Germany
Confirmed: 107,458
Deaths: 1,983

France
Confirmed: 109,069
Deaths: 10,328

High_Plains_Drifter

04-07-2020, 05:13 PM

Even though the numbers have gone down now 2 days in a row here in WI, for the sake of not being redundant, I'm not going to post any more updates until there's a definite DOWN TURN to report. We've ALL seen enough of it getting WORSE already to last us a life time... no more.

Next update will be GOOD news, not same ole, same ole shit.

jimnyc

04-10-2020, 02:18 PM

Here is today, thus far, and again all over the map. Some barely changed at all. Doesn't mean anything without any update. But at least a daily list is something to reflect back on for such a short period of time.

4-10-2020

Total Confirmed
1,673,423 an increase of 78,073

486,490 US an increase of 25,053

170,758 confirmed an increase of 8,979
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 92,384
Deaths: 5,820

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 18,077
Deaths: 389

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 7,984
Deaths: 225

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 73,758 an increase of 8,681
Deaths: 8,958 an increase of 980

Spain
Confirmed: 157,053
Deaths: 15,970

Germany
Confirmed: 119,624
Deaths: 2,607

France
Confirmed: 124,869 an increase of 7,120
Deaths: 13,197 an increase of 987

jimnyc

04-11-2020, 04:05 PM

The latest numbers from John's Hopkins central location, and we of course all know they are quite behind for some areas.

Again today I just collected the current numbers given only.

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4-11-2020

Total Confirmed
1,760,978

519,453 US

181,023 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 98,308
Deaths: 6,367

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 18,729
Deaths: 461

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 8,453
Deaths: 244

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 78,991
Deaths: 9,875

Spain
Confirmed: 161,852
Deaths: 16,353

Germany
Confirmed: 123,878
Deaths: 2,736

France
Confirmed: 129,654
Deaths: 13,832

jimnyc

04-12-2020, 02:49 PM

Drummond

04-12-2020, 02:55 PM

4-12-2020

Total Confirmed
1,833,685

546,874 US

188,902 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 103,208
Deaths: 6,898

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 19,313
Deaths: 511

Los Angeles, California, US
Confirmed: 8,889
Deaths: 267

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 84,279
Deaths: 10,612

Spain
Confirmed: 166,019
Deaths: 16,972

Germany
Confirmed: 126,656
Deaths: 2,908

France
Confirmed: 132,591
Deaths: 14,393

Our people think that the UK may ultimately turn out to be the worst-hit 'European' nation of them all. It doesn't help that we still have idiots who don't obey distancing rules, just because it's Easter, and that Easter this year has come with warm and sunny weather.

What we need is what I posted a video of, a day or 2 ago ... Daleks patrolling our streets .. :rolleyes:

Drummond

04-13-2020, 01:09 PM

The UK's Guardian newspaper has suddenly become worried about Russia's levels of Covid-19.

The BBC has followed suit.

Anyway ...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/moscow-hospitals-see-huge-influx-of-patients-as-covid-19-spreads-in-russia

Moscow hospitals see 'huge influx' of patients as Covid-19 spreads in Russia

Long tailbacks of ambulances seen at a hospital in the capital as mayor warns the outbreak is only in the ‘foothills’.

A “huge influx” of coronavirus patients has started to put a strain on hospitals in Moscow as Russia’s death toll rose to more than 100.

Moscow and many other regions have been in lockdown for nearly two weeks to stem the contagion, but hospitals in the capital are still being pushed to their limit, the Kremlin said.

On Saturday, dozens of ambulances queued outside a hospital handling coronavirus cases in the region immediately outside Moscow, waiting to drop off patients.

One ambulance driver said he had been waiting 15 hours outside the hospital to drop off a patient suspected of having the virus.

“The situation in both Moscow and St Petersburg, but mostly in Moscow, is quite tense because the number of sick people is growing,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in an interview on state television, news agencies reported.

“There is a huge influx of patients. We are seeing hospitals in Moscow working extremely intensely, in heroic, emergency mode.”

Being Russian, their hospitals are, but of course, notably 'heroic'. Presumably others 'are not' .. ?

According to the BBC, Putin has got the Russian Army involved. Perhaps they have a new class of missile they can fire at it (the virus, that is, not a hospital) ?

Perhaps Balu can be prevailed upon to offer characteristic comment (for balanced commentary, naturally !!) ?

jimnyc

04-13-2020, 05:33 PM

4-13-2020

Total Confirmed
1,912,923 an increase of 79,238

577,307 US an increase of 30,433

195,749 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 106,763
Deaths: 7,349

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 19,786
Deaths: 557

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 88,621
Deaths: 11,329

Spain
Confirmed: 169,628
Deaths: 17,628

Germany
Confirmed: 129,207
Deaths: 3,118

France
Confirmed: 136,779
Deaths: 14,967

jimnyc

04-14-2020, 04:38 PM

4-14-2020

Total Confirmed
1,970,225

592,743 US

202,365 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 110,465
Deaths: 7,905

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 20,191
Deaths: 596

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 93,873
Deaths: 12,107

Spain
Confirmed: 172,541
Deaths: 18,056

Germany
Confirmed: 131,170
Deaths: 3,272

France
Confirmed: 143,303
Deaths: 15,729

jimnyc

04-16-2020, 05:13 PM

4-16-2020

Total Confirmed
2,138,763

658,263 US

223,231 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 123,146
Deaths: 11,477

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 21,828
Deaths: 668

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 103,093
Deaths: 13,729

Spain
Confirmed: 182,816
Deaths: 19,130

Germany
Confirmed: 136,569
Deaths: 3,943

France
Confirmed: 145,960
Deaths: 17,920

jimnyc

04-17-2020, 05:20 PM

4-17-2020

Total Confirmed
2,224,426

692,169 US

223,699 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 123,146
Deaths: 13,202

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 21,828
Deaths: 668

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 108,692
Deaths: 14,576

Spain
Confirmed: 188,093
Deaths: 19,613

Germany
Confirmed: 139,702
Deaths: 4,203

France
Confirmed: 145,960
Deaths: 18,681

jimnyc

04-19-2020, 02:12 PM

4-19-2020

Total Confirmed
2,375,443

742,442 US

242,570 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 135,527
Deaths: 14,451

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 23,179
Deaths: 668

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 120,067
Deaths: 16,060

Spain
Confirmed: 195,944
Deaths: 20,453

Germany
Confirmed: 144,406
Deaths: 4,548

France
Confirmed: 151,793
Deaths: 19,718

jimnyc

04-20-2020, 05:27 PM

Even though some truly high numbers - it does look or feel like it's slowing down throughout. For now.

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4-20-2020

Total Confirmed
2,468,733

782,159 US

252,595 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 141,235
Deaths: 14,604

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 24,306
Deaths: 776

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 124,743
Deaths: 16,509

Spain
Confirmed: 200,210
Deaths: 20,852

Germany
Confirmed: 146,653
Deaths: 4,706

France
Confirmed: 155,275
Deaths: 20,265

High_Plains_Drifter

04-20-2020, 08:40 PM

jimnyc

04-21-2020, 04:08 PM

4-21-2020

Total Confirmed
2,544,769

814,587 US

258,361 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
Confirmed: 144,190
Deaths: 14,604

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 24,656
Deaths: 809

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 129,044
Deaths: 17,337

Spain
Confirmed: 204,178
Deaths: 21,282

Germany
Confirmed: 148,226
Deaths: 5,024

France
Confirmed: 155,275
Deaths: 20,796

Abbey Marie

04-23-2020, 07:47 AM

I see Italy got dropped from the list. Are they doing that well?

jimnyc

04-23-2020, 10:41 AM

I see Italy got dropped from the list. Are they doing that well?

No, I apparently screwed up somewhere. I think when I was adding France into the mix I somehow dropped off Italy. Then I base the next day on the day before, so once I dropped it, outta sight and outta mind. I'll be back on it today!

Looking at the first few days to today is some amazing changes in a short amount of time. But then again, while we don't have them handy, I'm betting that the flu numbers would be similar but less, and of course somewhat less lethal. Either way, interesting to keep running numbers to reflect back on.

Drummond

04-23-2020, 11:00 AM

Last I posted I believe my county only had 6 infected. Now it's 23, with 3 dead. The counties bordering mine still all have very small single digit numbers. Grant county is a very large county though, and down in the south tip of it, it borders both Iowa and Illinois near Dubuque. One of the biggest bridges crossing the Mississippi is there and it's a heavily populated area, so I guess I can understand why my county's numbers are shooting up, but I'm as far away from all that as I possibly could be, because little Podunk here is the furthest north and east town in the county. You cross the WI River right on the north edge of town and you're in Richland county, in fact, the WI River is our entire northern border. You drive out of town to the east and half a mile out of town you're in Iowa Co.

WI doesn't appear to be slowing down AT ALL. In fact, I think we still have to peak.

The last total for I posted for WI was around 2,000, it's now 4,499 with 230 deaths, but still the vast majority in Milwaukee.

I know we've all been doing the isolating thing here, I see it, just about everyone wearing the masks, and some with gloves, and for a long time, over a month, so I don't understand why our numbers just continue to climb unabated.

Plot various countries' infection rates on a graph, and have that graph produce comparisons ... and the curve of upward / downward infection rates is almost always duplicated. Some areas start later than others, but then go on to produce that same curve again.

Numbers might be different ... start times, ditto ... but still, the SAME rate of growth / decline.

I think you're right .. your situation is one of timescale, and nothing more. You haven't got near your peak yet.

We've got virologists over here who say that until / unless we get a working vaccine, or at least a treatment that nullifies the danger Covid-19 poses, the UK just cannot fully relax its lockdown. Distancing rules will have to remain in place, at absolute minimum, possibly for a YEAR or more.

Drummond

04-23-2020, 11:03 AM

The BBC just reported that more than a hundred of our healthcare workers have been killed by Covid-19.

jimnyc

04-23-2020, 05:07 PM

4-23-2020

Total Confirmed
2,699,338

864,415 US

269,756 confirmed
New York US

New York City, New York, US
150,976 confirmed
Deaths: 19,551

Westchester, New York, US
Confirmed: 25,959
Deaths: 863

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United Kingdom
Confirmed: 139,246
Deaths: 18,791

Italy
Confirmed: 189,973
Deaths: 25,549

Spain
Confirmed: 213,024
Deaths: 22,157

Germany
Confirmed: 151,784
Deaths: 5,367

France
Confirmed: 157,135
Deaths: 21,889

High_Plains_Drifter

04-23-2020, 07:50 PM

Well... all I can say is, Wisconsin must either be hitting it's peak, or we've really stepped up testing, but for whatever reason, yesterday we say the single greatest gain of 225 new infections, and today we had 207, not far behind, and 257 dead. I think that's kinda high for a sparsely populated northern state. But I guess when you factor in that it's just like one massive suburban entity from Chicago to Milwaukee, the numbers begin to be understandable, since over half of all our cases are in Milwaukee, and the deaths. There are now 26 in my county. The most of all the counties in SW WI by double. The other counties bordering our's all still have single digit infections. But then again, we have a large college campus in this county, and it's just a huge county.

This is after we've been locked down for over a month. If we're supposed to see peaks in 14 days, then we must have a lot of people in Wisconsin that have just blown off the lock down, which I see as their right, but still, even though I feel as though I'd be completely within my constitutional rights to go out where ever and go about my business, I haven't done so. I have "chosen" to play along with the safer at home game. But then I'm in a very unique position to do so. I have enough money in the bank to pay my bills, and I have enough food stored up I won't starve. Things could be a lot different though. I feel really sorry for all those that have lost their job and facing financial hardship. I'd be doing whatever the hell I had to do to pay my bills and buy food, if that's what I had to do. They could stick their safer at home orders where the sun don't shine.