Boris Says UK Has Crossed the ‘Brexit Finish Line’, Withdrawal Act Becomes Law

[jimnyc]

Congrats to Boris! And congrats to the British folks who supported this for so long.

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Boris Says UK Has Crossed the ‘Brexit Finish Line’, Withdrawal Act Becomes Law

The withdrawal agreement bill has been given Royal Assent, meaning it has become law and the UK will officially leave the EU on January 31st, 2020.

Deputy speaker Nigel Evans read out in the House of Commons on Thursday: “I have to announce to the House in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967 that Her Majesty has signified her Royal Assent to the following act: European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Act 2020,” meaning the bill has officially been signed into law.

https://i.imgur.com/cyFJ6xn.png

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/01/23/boris-uk-crossed-brexit-finish-line-bill-passes-parliament/

[Drummond]

Congrats to Boris! And congrats to the British folks who supported this for so long.

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Boris Says UK Has Crossed the ‘Brexit Finish Line’, Withdrawal Act Becomes Law

The withdrawal agreement bill has been given Royal Assent, meaning it has become law and the UK will officially leave the EU on January 31st, 2020.

Deputy speaker Nigel Evans read out in the House of Commons on Thursday: “I have to announce to the House in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967 that Her Majesty has signified her Royal Assent to the following act: European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Act 2020,” meaning the bill has officially been signed into law.

https://i.imgur.com/cyFJ6xn.png

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/01/23/boris-uk-crossed-brexit-finish-line-bill-passes-parliament/

THANK YOU, JIM !! :salute:

Very appreciated.

It's been a long, hard (ridiculously so) road to get to this point .. but at least, we have.

It's also been an instructive road. We've seen our 'Liberal' Democrat Party, take a line which said they'd crush Brexit if they ever gained the electoral power to do so (& to hell with the democratic decision, and all those voters who were a part of it). We had the Labour Party, who in their 2017 election manifesto said they were committed to respecting the Referendum vote, but did all they could since that time to kill off any and all progress towards seeing it enacted (saying that any Brexit had to have a deal attached ... then they voted against every deal in sight).

The forces of the Left, here .. even the most 'moderate' Left .. defied our electorate. All were given the caning of their lives in the December election, giving Boris a landslide victory ! Jo Swinson, leader of the LibDems, was even thrown out of her local constituency, the electorate there replacing her with a rival SNP candidate.

Our Conservatives respected democratic process, and the electorate. Forces from the Left, even the supposed 'moderate' Left, showed contempt for it.

DEMOCRACY WON OUT .. THOSE ACTING TO STALL, OR CRUSH IT, WERE DULY PUNISHED ....

.. and so, today, I'm proud of our People.

We've still got some negotiating to do, to see what our future trading relationship with EU countries will be, and ... I've no doubt that we'll get yet more 'shabby dealings' from them in the coming year. More wasted time ... more of being told what cannot be allowed, with scant all actually decided. Time will tell.

I look forward to our future trading relationship with America ! :salute:

[Abbey Marie]

It sounds like a messy divorce where the couple work out the details and sign the papers, but the judge doesn't want to grant the decree.
Drummond, in your mind, what is the main reason so many politicians are fighting getting BREXIT done? I tend to see money changing hands as the reason for almost all political bad behavior, but I don't know really know much about the EU.

[Kathianne]

It sounds like a messy divorce where the couple work out the details and sign the papers, but the judge doesn't want to grant the decree.

Drummond, in your mind, what is the main reason so many politicians are fighting getting BREXIT done? I tend to see money changing hands as the reason for almost all political bad behavior, but I don't know really know much about the EU.

I think it's more about power, where money is always involved too. EU leadership feels they are a moral counter to the evil, but wealthy and productive US.

[Drummond]

It sounds like a messy divorce where the couple work out the details and sign the papers, but the judge doesn't want to grant the decree.
@Drummond (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=2287), in your mind, what is the main reason so many politicians are fighting getting BREXIT done? I tend to see money changing hands as the reason for almost all political bad behavior, but I don't know really know much about the EU.

Kathianne makes good points. The EU does see itself as a rival 'power' to the US ... and anti-Trump-ism plays its part, too.

Identify and list those who've voiced any opposition to Brexit in the British Establishment, then identify and list those who've worked so hard, and so unashamedly, to actively derail Brexit, and have had no interest in heeding the Referendum vote. I'd challenge anyone to spot differences between the two lists.

Brexit exists as the expression of those who want the UK to determine its own fate, which means that its people actively determine that fate. Opposition to Brexit is fundamentally an expression of denial of any control of that fate, and instead, abdication of it in favour of, outright deference to, EU rule.

There's the dimension of the psychology of those who have defied the Will of the People, as expressed in the 2016 Referendum result, that it's fundamental to consider. Their brand of politics is one which is fundamentally geared to leading people, not listening and being led BY them. The EU functions to rule its Member States .. the European Parliament was created and functions for precisely that purpose. Power flowing from the top down, not from grassroots to Establishment entities, is the 'name of the game' to these people.

Bear in mind that the EU is a mutated entity ... originally just the EEC, a trading confederation, lacking any power-wielding machinery, such as a Parliament. The European Parliament, to say nothing of the European Court of Human Rights, each evolved as entities filling what was originally a power-vacuum. Wielding power, where before, that didn't happen, is what they're for.

Applying power is the whole point.

[Abbey Marie]

Unfortunately, expanding power seems to be the goal for almost anyone who tastes it’s fruits.

[Drummond]

Unfortunately, expanding power seems to be the goal for almost anyone who tastes it’s fruits.

Basically true, unfortunately. Even so ... what makes a Socialist / 'Leftie' distinctly bad in that context is the simple fact that the creed itself is designed for the mass application of power. Possibly there are those who'd argue otherwise; nonetheless, you can't apply the creed to any society in any other way.

An individual tempted to expand power is one corrupted by that power. But, a Socialist will work towards that as a reality, thinking it to be a self-meriting process. That's what makes Socialist power-mongers especially dangerous, and especially deserving of the utmost resistance to what they seek, and what they do.

[Drummond]

American site or not ... I couldn't let this go unmarked here.

Just 30 minutes ago, as I type, the UK finally, officially, LEFT THE EU !!

So, finally, after all that our Left did to defy our electorate, after all their disgusting vandalism, we've nonetheless rid ourselves of the EU's meddling in our affairs. Now, we can trade as WE choose. Now, we have all the control over our own borders that we could want, without EU diktat depriving us of this basic right.

Our laws will, now, be our own ... and we won't have law after law dreamed up in the EU Parliament foisted upon us, with our being under contractural imperative to implement them into our own legal system.

We are now, OUR OWN PEOPLE, governing OURSELVES.

I'm logging off now ... I'm celebrating !!! :dance::dance::dance:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

American site or not ... I couldn't let this go unmarked here.

Just 30 minutes ago, as I type, the UK finally, officially, LEFT THE EU !!

So, finally, after all that our Left did to defy our electorate, after all their disgusting vandalism, we've nonetheless rid ourselves of the EU's meddling in our affairs. Now, we can trade as WE choose. Now, we have all the control over our own borders that we could want, without EU diktat depriving us of this basic right.

Our laws will, now, be our own ... and we won't have law after law dreamed up in the EU Parliament foisted upon us, with our being under contractural imperative to implement them into our own legal system.

We are now, OUR OWN PEOPLE, governing OURSELVES.

I'm logging off now ... I'm celebrating !!! :dance::dance::dance:

My great friend, allow me to celebrate with you. This is truly a magnificent cause for celebration.
Now, if only Britain would correctly, and firmly address its dire and tragically serious muslim problem.
For such is key to its very survival...-Tyr

[Kathianne]

American site or not ... I couldn't let this go unmarked here.

Just 30 minutes ago, as I type, the UK finally, officially, LEFT THE EU !!

So, finally, after all that our Left did to defy our electorate, after all their disgusting vandalism, we've nonetheless rid ourselves of the EU's meddling in our affairs. Now, we can trade as WE choose. Now, we have all the control over our own borders that we could want, without EU diktat depriving us of this basic right.

Our laws will, now, be our own ... and we won't have law after law dreamed up in the EU Parliament foisted upon us, with our being under contractural imperative to implement them into our own legal system.

We are now, OUR OWN PEOPLE, governing OURSELVES.

I'm logging off now ... I'm celebrating !!! :dance::dance::dance:


Now hoping the people want to keep themselves free! Congratulations Drummond and UK!

[Abbey Marie]

Congratulations Drummond and the U.K.! It’s great!!

[High_Plains_Drifter]

American site or not ... I couldn't let this go unmarked here.

Just 30 minutes ago, as I type, the UK finally, officially, LEFT THE EU !!

So, finally, after all that our Left did to defy our electorate, after all their disgusting vandalism, we've nonetheless rid ourselves of the EU's meddling in our affairs. Now, we can trade as WE choose. Now, we have all the control over our own borders that we could want, without EU diktat depriving us of this basic right.

Our laws will, now, be our own ... and we won't have law after law dreamed up in the EU Parliament foisted upon us, with our being under contractural imperative to implement them into our own legal system.

We are now, OUR OWN PEOPLE, governing OURSELVES.

I'm logging off now ... I'm celebrating !!! :dance::dance::dance:
I hope you had a great celebration, my friend. What a great day for Britain.

Score one for a sovereign nation's people seeking independence, and zero for the globalist Illuminati trash.

[Drummond]

My great friend, allow me to celebrate with you. This is truly a magnificent cause for celebration.
Now, if only Britain would correctly, and firmly address its dire and tragically serious muslim problem.
For such is key to its very survival...-Tyr

Very much appreciated, Tyr ... you are a great friend to have.

We're now in a transition period, set to end in December this year ... its purpose being to give us something of a breather, so that our transition to a fully standalone nation fully in control of all its trade can be properly implemented. Until now, for example, the EU stopped us from freely entering into trade deals with America. Now, at long last, we CAN do this, as WE choose.

Needless to say, Jeremy Corbyn is trying to throw spanners at American trade agreements .... the BBC interviewed him last night when he did that (again).

Being divorced from the EU can't but help us with our Muslim problem, Tyr .. I'm thinking in particular not only about EU laws which helped restrict our own judicial position, but the European Court of 'Human Rights', which has been known to reach judgments favouring terrorist defendants in cases brought before it !! Being shot of the EU should put paid to their future interference.

Add that to what the future holds for us in terms of terrorist attacks ... and 'PC' equivocations should die a death, to be replaced with a greater patriotic need to defend against a savage aggressor. It'll take time ... BUT ... attitudes should change, and we'll start to address our problem from the enlightened standpoint of finally SEEING it as one !!!

The EU has much to answer for. Being rid of them will be our salvation.

[Drummond]

I hope you had a great celebration, my friend. What a great day for Britain.

I haven't woken up with a hangover in years. Now ....... :cool:


Score one for a sovereign nation's people seeking independence, and zero for the globalist Illuminati trash.

Perfectly put ! I can't 'better' that. And Tyr makes an important point ... with our becoming more and ever more distanced from EU unity, so we can properly evolve our worldview. Seeing the great threat posed by Muslims actually AS one, is something we can do without having to look over our shoulders all the time.

We decide for ourselves, now, whether or not we want to be slaves to PC blindness, rather than having that blindness inflicted upon us, as EU law has ensured happened. This is long overdue !!

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I haven't woken up with a hangover in years. Now ....... :cool:



Perfectly put ! I can't 'better' that. And Tyr makes an important point ... with our becoming more and ever more distanced from EU unity, so we can properly evolve our worldview. Seeing the great threat posed by Muslims actually AS one, is something we can do without having to look over our shoulders all the time.

We decide for ourselves, now, whether or not we want to be slaves to PC blindness, rather than having that blindness inflicted upon us, as EU law has ensured happened. This is long overdue !!
Now... GET YOUR GUNS BACK!

[Drummond]

Now... GET YOUR GUNS BACK!:clap::clap::clap::clap:

A very good thought.

I've long since argued against the ridiculously draconian gun laws we have in the UK. On this forum, I've argued repeatedly for a US-style gun law environment.

But ... if our two countries are ever likely to see an issue in totally different ways, gun control will be THE issue that'll create the greatest and sharpest disagreement. A former member of this forum joined a British blog site I was a member of (it now no longer exists), and mere mention of gun ownership brought her such vitriol from its other members that she was effectively driven off the site.

One member of that site even accused her of peddling guns, taking great exception to the very idea ... as though it branded her a criminal.

[I spent an entire afternoon on that site, doing nothing but defending her corner. It did no good ... and a couple of people there claimed that to argue as I did, I couldn't possibly be British]

No. Sadly, you may find agreement between Americans and Brits about Muslims, when that's discussed: but, when it gets down to discussion of action where guns so much as get a mention, agreement swiftly turns into strong disagreement. Our 'gun culture' has long been the polar opposite of yours (stupidly, in my view, but ... it IS).

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

HPD brought up a very relevant and important action to take as soon as possible. Giving up guns, giving up home defense by its occupants is never a good idea imho.
I trust me to defend my home -as cops show up after the carnage.
I'd rather the carnage to have been wrought upon the attackers of my home/family, rather than the carnage being wrought upon its rightful occupants. For that to be possible my home must have guns and a person very well trained how to use them!
I started shooting at age 6.. March this year will be 60 years since I learned and I am by any standard a truly exceptional marksman/hunter. When young late teens and early twenties I gambled with friends in competitions shooting for bets. I never lost...
Even at long range shooting or short ranger with pistols..
Here in the South in my time/era--we were raised on guns at early age.. Learning to shoot even before learning to ride a bike or swim..
I pray you guys get your guns back my friend... As my best bet is-- you are going to need them in the future..--Tyr

[High_Plains_Drifter]

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

A very good thought.

I've long since argued against the ridiculously draconian gun laws we have in the UK. On this forum, I've argued repeatedly for a US-style gun law environment.

But ... if our two countries are ever likely to see an issue in totally different ways, gun control will be THE issue that'll create the greatest and sharpest disagreement. A former member of this forum joined a British blog site I was a member of (it now no longer exists), and mere mention of gun ownership brought her such vitriol from its other members that she was effectively driven off the site.

One member of that site even accused her of peddling guns, taking great exception to the very idea ... as though it branded her a criminal.

[I spent an entire afternoon on that site, doing nothing but defending her corner. It did no good ... and a couple of people there claimed that to argue as I did, I couldn't possibly be British]

No. Sadly, you may find agreement between Americans and Brits about Muslims, when that's discussed: but, when it gets down to discussion of action where guns so much as get a mention, agreement swiftly turns into strong disagreement. Our 'gun culture' has long been the polar opposite of yours (stupidly, in my view, but ... it IS).
I'll tell ya bro, for the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would be AGAINST being able to protect yourself. That just sounds like some draconian deep seated brain washing right there. Apparently I really am out of touch with the mindset of many Brits.

I just bought this... (below)... a Remington Model 700 in .300 Winchester Mag. It's a canon, and to me, it's my God given right to own it, let alone my constitutional right. But as far as I see it, if they ever try and take our 2nd Amendment right away, then we'll have no way to fight back if they ever want to take away all the rest. Without our second amendment right, we might as well bend over and kiss our asses goodbye, because at that point we're nothing more cattle...

THIS separates me from being CATTLE...

https://i.ibb.co/YbX0TNk/20191223-154349.jpg (https://ibb.co/1bMzJ0q)

I'd love to see you Brits at least be able to get yourself a nice pistol or something.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

@Drummond (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=2287) ... get yourself a nice little pea shooter like my Taurus Raging Bull .44 mag here... you hit an intruder with one of these rounds and you won't have to worry about shooting them again. They're done... (the finish is nicer on the pistol than it looks. It's oily and has link from the case on it, and that looks like scratches. The pistol is actually super nice.)

https://i.ibb.co/DK4Z0jw/2014-04-05-20-17-52.jpg (https://ibb.co/7yvqs0r)

[Drummond]

I'll tell ya bro, for the life of me, I can't imagine why anyone would be AGAINST being able to protect yourself. That just sounds like some draconian deep seated brain washing right there. Apparently I really am out of touch with the mindset of many Brits.

I just bought this... (below)... a Remington Model 700 in .300 Winchester Mag. It's a canon, and to me, it's my God given right to own it, let alone my constitutional right. But as far as I see it, if they ever try and take our 2nd Amendment right away, then we'll have no way to fight back if they ever want to take away all the rest. Without our second amendment right, we might as well bend over and kiss our asses goodbye, because at that point we're nothing more cattle...

THIS separates me from being CATTLE...

https://i.ibb.co/YbX0TNk/20191223-154349.jpg (https://ibb.co/1bMzJ0q)

I'd love to see you Brits at least be able to get yourself a nice pistol or something.

When you describe the Brit attitude as 'brainwashing' ... that's exactly it. Don't ever forget just for how long our Left (a hardline version of it, compared with the American version) has held positions of influence and power over here. Their politics is far more ingrained in people here than is true for Americans.

[Example: our NHS. Been around since 1948, introduced by our Left .. has known many scandals, and the worst of them saw a health trust kill HUNDREDS of people. But, nobody questions the healthcare model responsible for any of it. Take a political stand against our NHS ... any politician here doing that would be destroying his / her career, automatically]

Our idea of defence is leaving it up to the authorities. Someone goes berserk in a neighbourhood ... call the police. We had one example of a machete-wielding maniac threatening people (& in a street I once lived in !!). The police were called ... and before they'd arrived, the maniac had used his time to behead an elderly lady. Now, did this result in anybody calling for the right to own and use a gun, in self-defence ? NO ... the police response time was questioned, instead.

Brits recoil against using guns. I do think that's a product of generations of conditioning. Every single time we hear of a mass shooting in America, media and public mood alike is to say 'tut tut, that's where widespread gun ownership leads you'. Invariably news outlets, notably the BBC, embark upon 'examination' of the 'consequences of widespread gun ownership, and the need for more stringent controls'.

We get this EVERY SINGLE TIME you have such a crisis to resolve, and we blame those crises on your gun laws. Most people here think you should adopt OUR 'standards' .... and they don't waver in that belief, not even when a terrorist atrocity, like the recent one on London Bridge, happen.

By the way, your gun images didn't appear on my screen, just a message saying 'Image not found'. Not sure if that's transatlantic censorship at work .. ?...

[Drummond]

Thought I'd add this, on the subject of UK gun laws, and who can own one, and under what circumstances ownership is permitted ...

https://www.newsweek.com/britains-gun-laws-who-can-own-firearm-471473


What constitutes a "firearm"?

'Firearm' means a lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged.

What are the basic principles of firearms law in the U.K.?

U.K. firearms policy is based on the fact that firearms are dangerous weapons and the State has a duty to protect the public from their misuse. Gun ownership in the U.K. is a privilege, not a right. Firearms control in the U.K. is among the toughest in the world ...


What is a good reason to own a firearm?

Applicants should be able to demonstrate to the licensing authority that they require their firearm on a regular, legitimate basis for work, sport or leisure (including collections or research). Chief Officers are able to exercise discretion over what constitutes a good reason, judging each case on its own merits.

In other words, I couldn't just say I wanted to own a gun, without also being able to prove that I had a specific reason to need to, over & above what counts as 'normality'.

You in America have a right to bear arms. We in the UK have no such automatic right, and a specific case to prove ownership necessity must be made before the 'privilege' of owning a gun is granted.

[Abbey Marie]

Can you just join a shooting club and then say the gun(s) are for leisure?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

When you describe the Brit attitude as 'brainwashing' ... that's exactly it. Don't ever forget just for how long our Left (a hardline version of it, compared with the American version) has held positions of influence and power over here. Their politics is far more ingrained in people here than is true for Americans.

[Example: our NHS. Been around since 1948, introduced by our Left .. has known many scandals, and the worst of them saw a health trust kill HUNDREDS of people. But, nobody questions the healthcare model responsible for any of it. Take a political stand against our NHS ... any politician here doing that would be destroying his / her career, automatically]

Our idea of defence is leaving it up to the authorities. Someone goes berserk in a neighbourhood ... call the police. We had one example of a machete-wielding maniac threatening people (& in a street I once lived in !!). The police were called ... and before they'd arrived, the maniac had used his time to behead an elderly lady. Now, did this result in anybody calling for the right to own and use a gun, in self-defence ? NO ... the police response time was questioned, instead.

Brits recoil against using guns. I do think that's a product of generations of conditioning. Every single time we hear of a mass shooting in America, media and public mood alike is to say 'tut tut, that's where widespread gun ownership leads you'. Invariably news outlets, notably the BBC, embark upon 'examination' of the 'consequences of widespread gun ownership, and the need for more stringent controls'.

We get this EVERY SINGLE TIME you have such a crisis to resolve, and we blame those crises on your gun laws. Most people here think you should adopt OUR 'standards' .... and they don't waver in that belief, not even when a terrorist atrocity, like the recent one on London Bridge, happen.

By the way, your gun images didn't appear on my screen, just a message saying 'Image not found'. Not sure if that's transatlantic censorship at work .. ?...
I deleted the gun pics. I don't leave them up long. Kind of a small window to view them.

Years ago I wouldn't have cared, but the left here won't rest either until they confiscate them all.

They'll have to pry mine out of my cold, dead hands.

[Drummond]

Can you just join a shooting club and then say the gun(s) are for leisure?

Wouldn't work, Abbey.

We do have shooting clubs, but not many of them (I think I'd have to travel around 100 miles to get to the nearest one). Our clubs operate using strict rules, and the one I asked at (a couple of decades ago, now) told me that firearms could only be used on their premises (shooting at targets, that sort of thing). I'd have to secretly smuggle one out of the club ... most probably I'd be discovered quickly.

If I did smuggle one out, I'd be in illegal possession of it, and I'd probably be prosecuted if (when) caught.

Using it outside of the club would itself be an illegal act .. regardless of circumstances.

So, no. I could apply for a gun licence, but I'd have to explain why I, specifically, had particular need for one. I don't see how that could be explained to any authority's satisfaction.

I've posted this before. It's now an old story. Still instructive, though ..... it's the story of a farmer who'd been previously burgled, and finally decided he had to do whatever it took to protect his property. This he duly did. The timeline of events following this, are here >>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3087003.stm

Mr Martin served more time in jail than the surviving burglars did, and one of them even decided to try and sue Martin for £50,000 ....

From that BBC link, by the way .. this might interest 'HPD' ....


27 September 2002: Charlton Heston, former actor and president of the US National Rifle Association, gives his support to Martin.

Mr Heston's intervention was noted, but basically ignored. It wasn't until the following July that Tony Martin gained his release from prison.

[Drummond]

I deleted the gun pics. I don't leave them up long. Kind of a small window to view them.

Years ago I wouldn't have cared, but the left here won't rest either until they confiscate them all.

They'll have to pry mine out of my cold, dead hands.

You're fortunate that you have the rights you do, that you live where you do.

If you'd been living in the UK, your actions would brand you, under our laws, as criminal. Our authorities would never tolerate them.

But then, that's what you get in a society where Left-wing sensibilities have been given too much latitude, too much acceptance.

I don't care how it's done, or what it takes. The Left's ability to exercise control or influence MUST be permanently curbed (preferably eradicated entirely) in your society. Otherwise, one day, your country will be indistinguishable from my own.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You're fortunate that you have the rights you do, that you live where you do.

If you'd been living in the UK, your actions would brand you, under our laws, as criminal. Our authorities would never tolerate them.

But then, that's what you get in a society where Left-wing sensibilities have been given too much latitude, too much acceptance.

I don't care how it's done, or what it takes. The Left's ability to exercise control or influence MUST be permanently curbed (preferably eradicated entirely) in your society. Otherwise, one day, your country will be indistinguishable from my own.
Believe me bro, I thank God I live in America just about every day. The rest of the world can look at us all as gun totting barbarians all they want, but that's the way we like it.

It was armed citizens that formed this nation, and as far as I'm concerned, it's the armed citizens that are charged with keeping it.

This is what I envision every time I hear talk about disarming America...

https://i.ibb.co/hR7m8T5/obeying1.jpg

[Drummond]

Believe me bro, I thank God I live in America just about every day. The rest of the world can look at us all as gun totting barbarians all they want, but that's the way we like it.

It was armed citizens that formed this nation, and as far as I'm concerned, it's the armed citizens that are charged with keeping it.

This is what I envision every time I hear talk about disarming America...

https://i.ibb.co/hR7m8T5/obeying1.jpg

Great post.

It's vitally important that the Left is kept firmly at bay, never allowed any more power or influence than can be helped. If they can be discredited, wiped out as any political force that matters ... even better.

Because it's our Left that's made the UK as gun-shy as it is. To them, total subservience to and dependence upon The Mighty State is what they preach and insist upon. Result ... individual self-reliance becomes an alien concept !

You'll know better than I do that the spirit of self-reliance, and individual striving, the individual's freedoms MATTERING ... was & is what continues to make your country a great one.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Great post.

It's vitally important that the Left is kept firmly at bay, never allowed any more power or influence than can be helped. If they can be discredited, wiped out as any political force that matters ... even better.

Because it's our Left that's made the UK as gun-shy as it is. To them, total subservience to and dependence upon The Mighty State is what they preach and insist upon. Result ... individual self-reliance becomes an alien concept !

You'll know better than I do that the spirit of self-reliance, and individual striving, the individual's freedoms MATTERING ... was & is what continues to make your country a great one.
Thank you for those kind words, brother.

I still think you should move to America. I think you'd love it here... :2up: ... :beer:

[FakeNewsSux]

https://youtu.be/f2zJ8vaB5jo

[Drummond]

https://youtu.be/f2zJ8vaB5jo

Brilliant video ... I enjoyed it a lot !

A couple of references to explain: 'The weird one with the glasses' can only be Rebecca Long-Bailey, a hard-Left MP who's fighting to become the next Labour Party leader after Corbyn (he's standing down in April, and there are four contenders for his job).

Rebecca L-B is seen as the 'Corbyn-continuation' candidate .. she fully endorses everything Corbyn stood for and is offering a policy platform pretty much identical to everything he's ever preached. I want her to win; to prove to the electorate that Labour refuse to listen to them. She should sideline Labour for at least a generation.

[Of course, she's battling to come up with a proper image ! She dropped the hyphen in her name to appear more 'working class'. She's now re-adopted it, because few people followed suit. Currently, she's to be known as 'Becky' (going for the more 'chummy' image)]

'Most of Hackney' ... a London borough, firmly and apparently incurably Socialist. It has Diane Abbott (Labour, what else ??) as its MP, whose media gaffes have become legendary. As an 'advertisement' for Socialism ... Hackney's long-term impoverished state says volumes. Yet, the people there keep on voting those responsible back on to their local council ...

John Bercow ... Speaker of the House until recently. Now fighting claims of bullying. Highly unpopular in his time (.. though, his performances made great television) ... Speakers usually get a peerage at the end of their terms. It's said that to award Bercow one, would be an outrage.

Bercow always claimed a neutral stance over Brexit. Nobody believed him, and his rulings at critical times were seen as deliberately obstructive to making progress with it.

On Diane Abbott ... her current gaffe is to reject that ex-military servicemen were capable of ever feeling bullied. This has earned her a torrent of charges of insensitivity and downright stupidity.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/diane-abbott-john-bercow-bullying-accusations-1385601


Diane Abbott deletes tweet suggesting ex-army officer couldn't be bullied in Bercow row.

Diane Abbott has come under fire for suggesting accusations of bullying made against John Bercow were unlikely to be true because they were made by an army veteran.

The shadow home secretary tweeted defending the former Commons Speaker,who has dominated headlines yet again after a former staff member, ex-black rod David Leakey, accused him of bullying.

Ms Abbott suggested that Mr Leakey, who was Lieutenant General, could not be a victim of bullying and intimidation due to his extensive military service.

Here's a video of her floundering in a 'car crash' interview on LBC, with Nick Ferrari ... definitely cringeworthy in the extreme ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rneBbKrVE7A

Try another one ... Piers Morgan interviewing Abbott on ITV's flagship Breakfast show ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KMh_WlrZT0

Diane Abbott would've been our Home Secretary, had Labour won the last election.

[Drummond]

If anyone's interested .... here she is. Corbyn Mark 2 ... aka Rebecca (Becky) Long-Bailey (hyphen optional).

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An article on her ...

https://starspost.com/labour-leadership-hopeful-rebecca-long-bailey-faces-exodus-of-moderate-mps-if-she-wins-party-crown/


LABOUR leadership contender Rebecca Long-Bailey faces an exodus of MPs if she wins the party crown.

The ex-solicitor is second-favourite to win the contest and her campaign was boosted after the support of union Unite.

But one moderate Labour MP said: “I will walk out of the party.

“I will leave, it will be the end of the party, it will be over.”

“We all may have our favoured candidate but in reality it has to be ‘Anyone But Becky’ for the party to survive.”

Unite boss ‘Red’ Len McCluskey said she had the “brains and the brilliance” to beat Boris Johnson.

She claimed this week that she had no friends among Tory MPs at Westminster and told how she would be “disappointed” if her friends backed Boris.

Long-Bailey, who was first elected in 2015, is backed by senior party figures John McDonnell and Diane Abbott.

Diane Abbott likes her. There y'go ..... :laugh:

[NightTrain]

If anyone's interested .... here she is. Corbyn Mark 2 ... aka Rebecca (Becky) Long-Bailey (hyphen optional).

An article on her ...

https://starspost.com/labour-leadership-hopeful-rebecca-long-bailey-faces-exodus-of-moderate-mps-if-she-wins-party-crown/



Diane Abbott likes her. There y'go ..... :laugh:


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The answer is, 'No.' Never fear, wouldn't happen, not alone. ;)

[NightTrain]

The answer is, 'No.' Never fear, wouldn't happen, not alone. ;)
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[Drummond]

Here's an example of Rebecca Long-Bailey's (hyphen optional, etc etc etc) sheer madness.

This takes militancy to a level where a sane sifting of facts, merit, doesn't even figure in the equation !!

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18220635.rebecca-long-bailey-labour-leader-back-strike-unjust-bosses-no-questions-asked/


REBECCA Long-Bailey will pledge to back workers and trade unions in every strike and dispute "no questions asked" if she succeeds in becoming Labour leader.

The Shadow Business Secretary said the party's path back to power after its worst General Election defeat since 1935 was by "rebuilding" the trade union movement.

She told a rally in Sheffield that the next leader must be "as comfortable on the picket line as at the dispatch box" and commit to giving workers a "right to unplug" from emails and calls outside of work hours.

"As leader, I'll put trade unions at the heart of Labour's path to power and back workers in every dispute,” Ms Long-Bailey declared.

Labour would "back workers in every dispute and strike against unfair, exploitative and unjust employers" under her leadership.

And she insisted “standing on the side of workers and trade unions, no questions asked, is going to be crucial in standing up to this reactionary Conservative Government".

She obviously feels that getting en masse support from trade Union members will be enough to boost Labour's electoral fortunes (meaning that she plans to BYPASS and IGNORE people who, until December last year, would've been loyal supporters of Labour, but for Brexit). If she means what she says (& I'm convinced she's insane enough to ..) .. then, and especially if Labour were to gain power in future, the UK's economy could go into meltdown.

Our Winter of Discontent (1978-'79) was just such an example. Waves of strikes, paralysing industry, killing off companies, even threatening essential services such as firefighting and healthcare (even burying the dead !) ... we've already seen that chaos in the UK. Long-Bailey's militant craziness may one day threaten a re-run of that destruction.

She should know better .. with our history being what it is, ANY Brit should. But our Left wing is so insanely power-mad that it just doesn't care.

[Drummond]

Taking a different tack, now ....

Hopefully this will play in the US ?

MAAJID NAWAZ. An impressive individual, in my book. His history, from long ago, was one of being a 'militant' Muslim, sympathetic to more supposedly 'extreme' Islamic ideology. Mr Nawaz did a total about-face, though, well over a decade ago. He actually helped found Quilliam, a Foundation dedicated to FIGHTING militant Islam. These days, he's as passionate an arguer for pro-Jewish rights as you'll find anywhere .. judging by what I've heard. His recent broadcasts about the atrocities committed at Auschwitz did him great credit.

Nawaz broadcasts regularly on LBC Radio. This is a clip of Mr Nawaz blaming Labour's defeat on its true reason for defeat ... Jeremy Corbyn, who has his history as a pro-Hamas supporter .... listen to his comment from 2 mins 52 seconds in ....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWPZM-pEno

Remember Soleimani, the top Iranian that Trump ordered the assassination of ? We has one crazy caller trying to compare him - and Iran's Supreme Leader - to our Queen (yes, our Lefties truly ARE nuts). Nawaz's response .....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLefLSiX5Y

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[Drummond]

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[Drummond]

Not sure this belongs in this thread ... but, what the hell ... it's a great (& more than a little accurate !) pic .....

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