Craig family values

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[stephanie]

Now that's what you call digging deep for doo doo....



:lame2:

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[Gunny]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3573171&page=1

Two of his adopted childern from his 1983 marriage (he has no childern of his own) have been arrested and have restraining oders against them.

The one son broke his wifes nose in one incident.

So? Who cares? and what's the point to this?

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[Gunny]

The point is family values and truely living them instead of using them as a club of=ver the head of other people

The point is, this is just the same crap as you ultra-lefties try to pull about Bush's daughters, or Cheney and his. He can believe what he wants, and represent the beliefs of his consituents and what his children choose to do is on THEM, not him.

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[Nukeman]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3573171&page=1

Two of his adopted childern from his 1983 marriage (he has no childern of his own) have been arrested and have restraining oders against them.

The one son broke his wifes nose in one incident.

Your such a f*cking dumbass. Wow, he's a republican. In the party of family values.

Yep us republicans are the only ones out there cheating/whoring/ and our kids are on drugs.

OK, your one and only point you ever try to make on this board, is true. There are bad republicans. GET OVER IT


don't forget people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

[Gunny]

How did the right treat Chelsea Clinton when she was a 12 year old?

I don't recall that "the right" treated her as anything. Your precious liberal0biased media is another story though. They'll eat their own for a little sensationalism.

Kinda like you.:poke::laugh2:

[manu1959]

The point is family values and truely living them instead of using them as a club of=ver the head of other people

you mean like you are doing in this thread?

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[Gunny]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton#Absorbing_criticism

They got to work pretty quik on the little girl in braces.

Again you use wikipedia ... user-based facts. I was around conservatives/Republicans all the time then, part of it in DC, and don't recall even once discussing her.

So I can only assume the reality of the situation is that only your counterpart conservative loopy extremists had anything to say about her.

[manu1959]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton#Absorbing_criticism

They got to work pretty quik on the little girl in braces.

so is you point that if the gop can rip chelsea you can rip senator craig an his adopted family?

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[manu1959]

How is airing facts ripping him?

I am showing the family he has and what they have done.

Im not calling them ugly and stupid am I ?

If the right had shown a picture of Chelsea and said she was an adolesant with braces that would have been fine huh?

answer my question....a simple yes or no will do

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[manu1959]

I answered you .

Posting facts is not ripping someone is it?

I did not say anthing about these people which was not true.

Is truth = with ripping someone?

yes or no.....

[actsnoblemartin]

You can say the truth in a polite way or a mean way.

i prefer the polite way.

[manu1959]

The point is family values and truely living them instead of using them as a club of=ver the head of other people

this isn't facts it is opinion and you are ripping another person over personal misfortune.....

[actsnoblemartin]

hey noble knight, what are you up too today?


this isn't facts it is opinion and you are ripping another person over personal misfortune.....

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[manu1959]

So you say Craig wasnt spouting family values in his carreer?

are you against family values?....

still can't answer my question can you....admit it...you started this thread to rip craig....and you are justifing by saying that the gop ripped chelsea....

[manu1959]

hey noble knight, what are you up too today?

watching england beat israel 3 nil

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[stephanie]

Abc news ratings are in the gutter, and now you see why...

They went and dug up this mans CHILDREN'S arrest records so they could do a hit piece on Craig....

Really pathetic and desperate...

[darin]

I did answer you more than once.

This is giving facts.

You see chelsea is not a dog but Craigs family did have these problems.

Truth is not ripping.

I did not call these people any names.

You haven't answered - you've tried to filibuster. Yes or No to his question, Liesmatter.

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[darin]

If Chelsea Clinton was arrested you would not talk about it?


so is you point that if the gop can rip chelsea you can rip senator craig an his adopted family?


yes or no?

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[stephanie]

Its like asking me if you can post about chelsea clinton being a dog can I post about Craigs family problems which are a matter of puplic record so I guess the answer would be..............YES.

I posted known facts about the Craig family but I still maintain that Chelsea is not a dog.

One is the truth and the other is a insult and a lie.

You pointed out the so called calling of Chelsea as a dog, on wikipedia a site that can be edited by any Tom, Dick, or Harry...

Please provide another source for this story, then I might believe you...

As for the Craig kids arrests....How is this news...those arrests were from the early 90's and early 2000..

Why is it being brought to our attention now...
What does it have anything to do with Craig and his standing for Family Values...??
Why do you see it ok to bring down the CHILDREN of ANY politicians?
Too me, you are acting no better than those so called rightwingers who said things about Chelsea Clinton....

tsk, tsk....

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[Abbey Marie]

If Chelsea Clinton was arrested you would not talk about it?

One thing is for certain- you wouldn't. :laugh2:

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[avatar4321]

to the point: who cares?

Craig is resigning. Its a total non issue.

But you havent explaining how supporting family values and falling short of them is somehow worse than attacking family values and undermining them out in the open.

[Abbey Marie]

Why would I not?

:laugh2:

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[darin]

Its like asking me if you can post about chelsea clinton being a dog can I post about Craigs family problems which are a matter of puplic record so I guess the answer would be..............YES.

I posted known facts about the Craig family but I still maintain that Chelsea is not a dog.

One is the truth and the other is a insult and a lie.


yes or No?

[avatar4321]

He was a long time proponent of the family values crowd.

Clinton hsa not been president for years yet people still talk about him all the tiem.

Clinton is still in the public spotlight. Craig has left.

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[manu1959]

I did answer you more than once.

This is giving facts.

You see chelsea is not a dog but Craigs family did have these problems.

Truth is not ripping.

I did not call these people any names.

you are such a liar....you never said yes or no....you keep asking questions and bobbing and weaving....

yes you did call him names....you are calling him a hypocrite

chelsea is ugly...

bill is a liar and an adulterer....

hillary is a bitch...

there is truth for ya ....

[manu1959]

You haven't answered - you've tried to filibuster. Yes or No to his question, Liesmatter.

she can't do it.....because if she says no....then she is a liar....if she says yes then she is no better than those she loaths....either way she is screwed

[manu1959]

You pointed out the so called calling of Chelsea as a dog, on wikipedia a site that can be edited by any Tom, Dick, or Harry...

Please provide another source for this story, then I might believe you...

As for the Craig kids arrests....How is this news...those arrests were from the early 90's and early 2000..

Why is it being brought to our attention now...
What does it have anything to do with Craig and his standing for Family Values...??
Why do you see it ok to bring down the CHILDREN of ANY politicians?
Too me, you are acting no better than those so called rightwingers who said things about Chelsea Clinton....

tsk, tsk....


and that is why she can't answer the question....

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[manu1959]

I think some of you missed this answer?

your answer makes you as bad as those you condemn........though all yall were tollerant, accepting and understanding......

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[manu1959]

How is that ?

because you are using bad behaviour to justify your bad behaviour....

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[manu1959]

How by posting a current event?

dmp insisted on a yes or no answer after giving me an question I could not answer just yes or no.

I had to answer him so I did the best I could.

I answered yes with an explaination.

why did you post the current event....no need to answer....you said because you wanted to point out that because his kids are shits he has no right to preach family values....and when called on that you said it was ok because people called chelsea ugly...which she was and is....

so you use bad behaviour to justify bad behaviour.....you are what you loathe.....

shall i put your bike in reverse?

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[manu1959]

I never called his adopted kids from his wifes first marraige any names.

And I still say that there is nothing wrong with postig a current event.

Calling a little girl with braces a dog is not news its just bad family values.

you are hopeless......

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[Gunny]

How by posting a current event?

dmp insisted on a yes or no answer after giving me an question I could not answer just yes or no.

I had to answer him so I did the best I could.

I answered yes with an explaination.

Craig's children are NOT a current event.

[Gunny]

Go find where I called them names?

Your initial assertion is that the behavior of Craig's children somehow means he should not advocate family values, and go on to show them in a negative light.

You do not consider that disparaging? You're trying to play semantics here, and it's obvious.

[manu1959]

Go find where I called them names?

you posted it to call craig out....you admited it....for fucks sake woman....

[manu1959]

Your initial assertion is that the behavior of Craig's children somehow means he should not advocate family values, and go on to show them in a negative light.

You do not consider that disparaging? You're trying to play semantics here, and it's obvious.

thanks for taking a turn banging your head on the rock

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[manu1959]

This is what I said.

He would talk about family values and his family could not hold to the standard.

I say he should have been more understanding of people not living up to the standards he claimed seeig his own family could not.

yep ... you just lost an argument to yourself ......

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[manu1959]

only in your mind

hardly......

[Gunny]

This is what I said.

He would talk about family values and his family could not hold to the standard.

I say he should have been more understanding of people not living up to the standards he claimed seeig his own family could not.

The values he seeks and those values possessed by others are not mutually0inclusive. That's the difference between idealism and reality, something you should understand very well because you are long the former and possess very little understanding of the latter.

[Gunny]

hardly......

She'll come right back tomorrow or the next day and repost her initial assumption as if it hadn't been hacked to pieces all day today.:laugh2:

[manu1959]

She'll come right back tomorrow or the next day and repost her initial assumption as if it hadn't been hacked to pieces all day today.:laugh2:

i know....she is living ground hog day.....she also reminds me of the black knight in monty python

[Abbey Marie]

i know....she is living ground hog day.....she also reminds me of the black knight in monty python

:laugh2: Wish I could rep you for that image.

http://www.blisshouse.com/images/Monty_Python_2__limbless_Black_Knight.JPG

[manu1959]

:laugh2: Wish I could rep you for that image.

http://www.blisshouse.com/images/Monty_Python_2__limbless_Black_Knight.JPG

you are staff ..you can do whatever you want

[Abbey Marie]

you are staff ..you can do whatever you want

Not with repeat reps, love. :salute: