Terrorist attack on London Bridge

[Drummond]

An incident occurred on the northern end of London Bridge this afternoon (close to 2pm, local time). A lone terrorist launched a knife attack.

Details on casualties are still sketchy. But the perpetrator was shot dead by police on the bridge. The terrorist was armed with a knife, and was also wearing what turned out to be a hoax suicide vest.

A BBC report on this (true to form, the BBC did not describe this as a terrorist incident, nor the attacker as a terrorist, in their initial reporting ...) ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781


A number of people have been stabbed and a man has been shot dead by police in an attack at London Bridge.

The Met Police has declared the stabbing attack a terrorist incident.

The suspect, who died at the scene, was believed to have been wearing a hoax explosive device, police said.

A BBC reporter at the scene said he had seen a fight on the bridge, with several men attacking one man. Police then arrived quickly and a number of shots were fired at him, he said.

Details are still emerging and Neil Basu, the head of UK counter-terrorism policing, said the force was keeping an open mind over the motive.

He said officers were called to a stabbing at a premises near the bridge just before 14:00.

Footage has emerged on social media of a man apparently being pinned down by members of the public.

Another man in a suit and jacket could be seen running from him, having apparently retrieved a large knife.

The members of the public then disperse and the man appears to be shot by police as he lay on the ground.

Mr Basu told a press conference: "A male suspect was shot by specialist armed officers from City of London police and I can confirm that this suspect died at the scene."

British Transport Police said London Bridge station was currently closed and no trains would be stopping there.

Our politicians have issued their appropriate statements of sympathy, and of support for the police.

One possible point of interest will be to see how Jeremy Corbyn (Labour Party leader) treats the incident, once he's had time to properly sift the facts. Where Al-Baghdadi was concerned, he was critical of armed forces tackling Baghdadi at the time, saying that all possible efforts should've been made to arrest him, instead of killing him. Well ... in this current incident, I've yet to hear of Corbyn taking a comparable position against the knife-wielding terrorist, who, as I say, was shot dead by police at the scene.

[Kathianne]

An incident occurred on the northern end of London Bridge this afternoon (close to 2pm, local time). A lone terrorist launched a knife attack.

Details on casualties are still sketchy. But the perpetrator was shot dead by police on the bridge. The terrorist was armed with a knife, and was also wearing what turned out to be a hoax suicide vest.

A BBC report on this (true to form, the BBC did not describe this as a terrorist incident, nor the attacker as a terrorist, in their initial reporting ...) ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781



Our politicians have issued their appropriate statements of sympathy, and of support for the police.

One possible point of interest will be to see how Jeremy Corbyn (Labour Party leader) treats the incident, once he's had time to properly sift the facts. Where Al-Baghdadi was concerned, he was critical of armed forces tackling Baghdadi at the time, saying that all possible efforts should've been made to arrest him, instead of killing him. Well ... in this current incident, I've yet to hear of Corbyn taking a comparable position against the knife-wielding terrorist, who, as I say, was shot dead by police at the scene.

I've been watching for a bit over an hour or so. I think the police, if not your media, were pretty quick to say they were treating as a terror incident, until proven different. Waiting for Johnson to say something. Was weird watching Khan speaking in front of Christmas tree. Now he sounds like your media, no?

[Drummond]

I've been watching for a bit over an hour or so. I think the police, if not your media, were pretty quick to say they were treating as a terror incident, until proven different. Waiting for Johnson to say something. Was weird watching Khan speaking in front of Christmas tree. Now he sounds like your media, no?

Boris has already issued a public statement .. I saw BBC News report on it around 30 mins ago. He also asked for updates to be issued by the police to him personally.

Sadiq Khan's performance, from my perspective, was a sickening one. There he is, as London Mayor, presiding over an epidemic of knife crimes here, and been seen to do nothing substantive about it all. Yet, in a high profile incident, there he is, centre stage, putting out all the messages of support and praise you'd expect.

Boris is now speaking in an interview as I type, paying tribute to police, calling for vigilance from members of the Public. Says he's suspended his election campaigning for this evening, and will review it in the coming hours ...

As for the BBC, they have a policy of not naming any incident as terrorist until authorities themselves use that word. They'll refer to 'an attacker', 'a shooter', 'a bomber' or 'a bombing incident' ... but never use the word 'TERRORIST' as a term THEY THEMSELVES initiate ... unless there are official reports from others who categorise in that way.

[Kathianne]

Boris has already issued a public statement .. I saw BBC News report on it around 30 mins ago. He also asked for updates to be issued by the police to him personally.

Sadiq Khan's performance, from my perspective, was a sickening one. There he is, as London Mayor, presiding over an epidemic of knife crimes here, and been seen to do nothing substantive about it all. Yet, in a high profile incident, there he is, centre stage, putting out all the messages of support and praise you'd expect.

Boris is now speaking in an interview as I type, paying tribute to police, calling for vigilance from members of the Public. Says he's suspended his election campaigning for this evening, and will review it in the coming hours ...

Yep, our media said that Johnson was going to appear again, shortly. That is what I was speaking of. I agree with you about Khan, it truly was sickening.

[Drummond]

Yep, our media said that Johnson was going to appear again, shortly. That is what I was speaking of. I agree with you about Khan, it truly was sickening.

He has done, in a BBC interview.

Khan - you might have noticed ? - even managed to turn his speech into one he used for political advantage. During it, he said that others' attempts to 'attack our diversity' will never succeed.

Khan is clearly trying to make a political issue of the sanctity of cultural diversity, in London, at least ... which I take to be his way of saying that our social beliefs must continue to be those of total tolerance towards all of divergent beliefs ...

It's the same old sanitation message, which of course our media will be keen to support. No matter what atrocities, inspired by whatever religion or 'faith', occur ... the faiths inspiring them must still receive total tolerance and acceptance.

[Drummond]

Even now, the BBC is being mealy-mouthed in its reporting. A BBC commentator just now said on-air that 'the incident' is 'being treated as a terrorist incident'.

A terrorist attacked with a knife. He wore a fake suicide vest. Why ? Because he wanted to do a bit of entertaining, ad-hoc public mimicry ? Maybe his suicide vest was an attempt at a trendy fashion statement ???

You'll not get a BBC commentator unilaterally, categorically, from his/her own volition, state a terrorist IS a terrorist, or terrorism AS TERRORISM, has occurred. They'll report others saying so. They won't unilaterally choose to themselves.

[Gunny]

An incident occurred on the northern end of London Bridge this afternoon (close to 2pm, local time). A lone terrorist launched a knife attack.

Details on casualties are still sketchy. But the perpetrator was shot dead by police on the bridge. The terrorist was armed with a knife, and was also wearing what turned out to be a hoax suicide vest.

A BBC report on this (true to form, the BBC did not describe this as a terrorist incident, nor the attacker as a terrorist, in their initial reporting ...) ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781



Our politicians have issued their appropriate statements of sympathy, and of support for the police.

One possible point of interest will be to see how Jeremy Corbyn (Labour Party leader) treats the incident, once he's had time to properly sift the facts. Where Al-Baghdadi was concerned, he was critical of armed forces tackling Baghdadi at the time, saying that all possible efforts should've been made to arrest him, instead of killing him. Well ... in this current incident, I've yet to hear of Corbyn taking a comparable position against the knife-wielding terrorist, who, as I say, was shot dead by police at the scene.Typical terrorist. Bringing a knife to a gunfight. I thought anything larger than a paring knife was a controlled weapon of mass destruction?

[Kathianne]

He has done, in a BBC interview.

Khan - you might have noticed ? - even managed to turn his speech into one he used for political advantage. During it, he said that others' attempts to 'attack our diversity' will never succeed.

Khan is clearly trying to make a political issue of the sanctity of cultural diversity, in London, at least ... which I take to be his way of saying that our social beliefs must continue to be those of total tolerance towards all of divergent beliefs ...

It's the same old sanitation message, which of course our media will be keen to support. No matter what atrocities, inspired by whatever religion or 'faith', occur ... the faiths inspiring them must still receive total tolerance and acceptance.
What the politicians or media want do not necessarily translate into what the people want or feel. Today I was skimming through fb and noticed a post from the right, "Impeachment is wrong, say 'yes' if you support President Trump!" Personally I agree with the first clause, but not the second. ;) I suspect there are plenty of Londoners who want 'diversity,' but not at the cost of terror attacks. If they can't have peace, my guess is they'd more than settle for those who want to impose the terror definition of diversity. That may well be why just about everything I read in past few days is about Johnson having a growing majority.

[Drummond]

Typical terrorist. Bringing a knife to a gunfight. I thought anything larger than a paring knife was a controlled weapon of mass destruction?

Terrorists (never initially recognised as such) are given special dispensation, don't y'know ....

To be fair ... it didn't start out as a gunfight. Our police don't usually carry firearms, remember. In a higher-security area such as central London, and comparatively near to our seat of Government .. you'd expect the percentage of armed officers to be higher than normal, though.

Reported response-time to get an armed police officer on to the scene, this time around ... seven minutes ....

[Drummond]

What the politicians or media want do not necessarily translate into what the people want or feel. Today I was skimming through fb and noticed a post from the right, "Impeachment is wrong, say 'yes' if you support President Trump!" Personally I agree with the first clause, but not the second. ;) I suspect there are plenty of Londoners who want 'diversity,' but not at the cost of terror attacks. If they can't have peace, my guess is they'd more than settle for those who want to impose the terror definition of diversity. That may well be why just about everything I read in past few days is about Johnson having a growing majority.

I'd say that the availability of impeachment as a necessary fall-back position for certain very unusual and grave circumstances ... could be a vital resource. But, I would say 'Yes, I support President Trump'. He's still doing his best for America & her interests ..

There are SOME who want diversity. Then, there are some who've been indoctrinated into feeling shame, regarding it as an antisocial attitude, if they DARE to not want diversity. Some would happily demonise as racism, evidence of not wanting diversity.

Precious few 'want' terror attacks .. of course !! However, most have been indoctrinated into believing that those who indulge are 'freaks', or 'mentally ill', or 'extremists' if they do so.

If, in the coming hours and days, this terrorist turns out to be a Muslim committing terrorism in the furtherance of his beliefs ... Islam will strenuously NOT be blamed. No. This individual will, automatically and irrevocably, be described and regarded as 'an extremist', wholly separate from mainstream Islam. We know this, because in the eyes of the media, therefore the wider general public, Islam 'is a religion of peace'.

If Muslim terrorists ever plant a dirty bomb in London, I absolutely guarantee you that any 'Allahu Akhbar' shouting terrorists responsible will not be, 'CANNOT BE', true Islamists, no matter what they say.

We know this. The Media Will Say So.

The BBC would no doubt struggle to see it as a terrorist incident.

As for Johnson having 'a growing majority' .. I've learned not to trust polls, as they've given us false indicators in the past. It's a fluid situation, changing day-by-day ... just in the past 48 hours, Corbyn attempted a 'killer blow' against Boris on the grounds that he supposedly had documentary proof that Boris was preparing to sell out our ever-sacrosanct NHS to corporate US interests.

Something like that has the potential to reverse political fortunes at a stroke.

[Gunny]

I'd say that the availability of impeachment as a necessary fall-back position for certain very unusual and grave circumstances ... could be a vital resource. But, I would say 'Yes, I support President Trump'. He's still doing his best for America & her interests ..

There are SOME who want diversity. Then, there are some who've been indoctrinated into feeling shame, regarding it as an antisocial attitude, if they DARE to not want diversity. Some would happily demonise as racism, evidence of not wanting diversity.

Precious few 'want' terror attacks .. of course !! However, most have been indoctrinated into believing that those who indulge are 'freaks', or 'mentally ill', or 'extremists' if they do so.

If, in the coming hours and days, this terrorist turns out to be a Muslim committing terrorism in the furtherance of his beliefs ... Islam will strenuously NOT be blamed. No. This individual will, automatically and irrevocably, be described and regarded as 'an extremist', wholly separate from mainstream Islam. We know this, because in the eyes of the media, therefore the wider general public, Islam 'is a religion of peace'.

If Muslim terrorists ever plant a dirty bomb in London, I absolutely guarantee you that any 'Allahu Akhbar' shouting terrorists responsible will not be, 'CANNOT BE', true Islamists, no matter what they say.

We know this. The Media Will Say So.

The BBC would no doubt struggle to see it as a terrorist incident.

As for Johnson having 'a growing majority' .. I've learned not to trust polls, as they've given us false indicators in the past. It's a fluid situation, changing day-by-day ... just in the past 48 hours, Corbyn attempted a 'killer blow' against Boris on the grounds that he supposedly had documentary proof that Boris was preparing to sell out our ever-sacrosanct NHS to corporate US interests.

Something like that has the potential to reverse political fortunes at a stroke.The availability of impeachment should be just that. It should however have as many failsafes as dropping the bomb. The Dems are misusing it. In doing so in the manner they are, they have devalued it. It's not a hush, hush word anymore. Now you have people casually slinging it around because they don't like someone.

Don't you just love the way the media will tell you that thing that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck is not a duck. That would infringe upon a duck's rights to not be stereotyped as a duck:rolleyes:. And most people believe them.

[LongTermGuy]

"Terrorist attack on London Bridge"When will Europe / socialist ever learn on who is usually responsible and why are you so tolerant with these cacaroaches.....and letting more come in?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKl2QHbXUAAE0xB?format=jpg&name=medium

[LongTermGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKlEus0XsAENqjs?format=jpg&name=medium

[LongTermGuy]

Older article...but Food for thought...and why bad things happen...because nothing gets done to isolate the Problem...


In 2017, The Times reported that Intelligence officers have identified 23,000 jihadist extremists living in Britain as potential terrorist attackers.23 is a large number on its own. Let alone 23,000.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1198725194212356096/1nxVYimd?format=jpg&name=small

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/huge-scale-of-terror-threat-revealed-uk-home-to-23-000-jihadists-3zvn58mhq

[Drummond]

We now know a lot more about the terrorist, and the circumstances leading to the London Bridge attack.

He was 28 years old ... name, Usman Khan. He had a conviction for terrorism, and was halfway through a sentence for it.

Khan, originally, had been given an 'indeterminate sentence' for his previous crime. That had been quashed by an appeal court, and a fixed term sentence was passed in place of it.

Khan was released from prison in 2018, on 'special licence', confining him to a specific location. He wore a security tag, one designed to track his movements in his area (in his case, Stafford ... a different part of the country to London !!).

Khan was given permission to travel away from Stafford. His reason for travelling to London was to attend a conference being run by Cambridge University, on 'Prisoner Rehabilitation'. The conference was at Fishmongers Hall, very near to where his attack took place.

It's said that his movements in London weren't tracked, because his electronic tag was set up for use specifically in Stafford.

So ... he committed his attack. He was free to, because our authorities were prepared to show him a level of trust he in no way deserved to receive.

Sadiq Khan, our excuse for a London Mayor, has spoken out. He's decided, as a Leftie Mayor who's done f*** all about knife crime in London, to say that this case illustrates a need for greater police resources ... so he can further a case which says that responsibility for rising knife crime in London doesn't belong at his door !!!

The Left could sympathise with this. A Sadiq Khan freed from responsibility for knife crime can therefore, again, turn his energies to other political pursuits ... such as, launching more hate-filled missives against one Donald Trump ... that famous London resident (therefore, legitimately within range of Sadiq Khan's criticisms :rolleyes: !), who happens to 'moonlight' as American President, in his spare time !!

The Cockney Trump Tower frequently laments his absences :rolleyes:....

Back on track: this case shows that our society is FAR too soft on terrorists. People paid for our liberalism, yesterday, with their lives (two fatalities, not including the terrorist).

We need to, finally, learn this: TERRORISTS ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS. You cannot think of their very thought processes as human. The notion of their 'repenting', feeling 'sorry' about their crimes and their intentions, can't be seen in typically human terms. The humanity permitting such as that DOES NOT EXIST in a committed terrorist.

I see a terrorist as being a bipedal version of vermin. Nothing more. As ugly a reality as that is, it IS the reality in play. We need to wake up to it.

[Gunny]

We now know a lot more about the terrorist, and the circumstances leading to the London Bridge attack.

He was 28 years old ... name, Usman Khan. He had a conviction for terrorism, and was halfway through a sentence for it.

Khan, originally, had been given an 'indeterminate sentence' for his previous crime. That had been quashed by an appeal court, and a fixed term sentence was passed in place of it.

Khan was released from prison in 2018, on 'special licence', confining him to a specific location. He wore a security tag, one designed to track his movements in his area (in his case, Stafford ... a different part of the country to London !!).

Khan was given permission to travel away from Stafford. His reason for travelling to London was to attend a conference being run by Cambridge University, on 'Prisoner Rehabilitation'. The conference was at Fishmongers Hall, very near to where his attack took place.

It's said that his movements in London weren't tracked, because his electronic tag was set up for use specifically in Stafford.

So ... he committed his attack. He was free to, because our authorities were prepared to show him a level of trust he in no way deserved to receive.

Sadiq Khan, our excuse for a London Mayor, has spoken out. He's decided, as a Leftie Mayor who's done f*** all about knife crime in London, to say that this case illustrates a need for greater police resources ... so he can further a case which says that responsibility for rising knife crime in London doesn't belong at his door !!!

The Left could sympathise with this. A Sadiq Khan freed from responsibility for knife crime can therefore, again, turn his energies to other political pursuits ... such as, launching more hate-filled missives against one Donald Trump ... that famous London resident (therefore, legitimately within range of Sadiq Khan's criticisms :rolleyes: !), who happens to 'moonlight' as American President, in his spare time !!

The Cockney Trump Tower frequently laments his absences :rolleyes:....

Back on track: this case shows that our society is FAR too soft on terrorists. People paid for our liberalism, yesterday, with their lives (two fatalities, not including the terrorist).

We need to, finally, learn this: TERRORISTS ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS. You cannot think of their very thought processes as human. The notion of their 'repenting', feeling 'sorry' about their crimes and their intentions, can't be seen in typically human terms. The humanity permitting such as that DOES NOT EXIST in a committed terrorist.

I see a terrorist as being a bipedal version of vermin. Nothing more. As ugly a reality as that is, it IS the reality in play. We need to wake up to it.Did you see the thread where ISIS is taking credit for it? How does Khan figure THAT into his shirking responsibility?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Terrorists (never initially recognised as such) are given special dispensation, don't y'know ....

To be fair ... it didn't start out as a gunfight. Our police don't usually carry firearms, remember. In a higher-security area such as central London, and comparatively near to our seat of Government .. you'd expect the percentage of armed officers to be higher than normal, though.

Reported response-time to get an armed police officer on to the scene, this time around ... seven minutes ....
I think it's just... mind numbing... that the people of Europe are so... indoctrinated... to ADMIT... that it is MUSLIMS that do these things, and they do it out of HATE for ANYONE that ISN'T a MUSLIM.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? WHY is that SIMPLE... TRUTH... so HARD to ADMIT?

HOW MUCH of this would it take to WAKE UP the people? An attack EVERY DAY? Kill a THOUSAND PEOPLE? TEN THOUSAND?

I will NEVER understand this DENIAL. It is POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, and by people with a SINISTER agenda.